Golden Rollos - Hofstra

[rollo]

The Golden Rollos go the the player who lack of effort played the greatest roll in a Flyers loss...so your vote tonite is NOT for the best effort. It's to place royal blame.

With that said, this game was lost in the first 10 minutes. After that, My Flyers played well. Unfortunately, it's a 40 min game and we don't have the depth or experience to only play 30 and still hope to win.

Good luck!

King Rollo the Judge, Jury and Executioner...OUT!

[Kevinob15]

Went with XW because AG wasn’t an option. Really disappointed in both really
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[ruechalgrin]

Would have liked to vote Anthony Grant. Voted Crutcher reluctantly.

(1) Needed Crosby & Josh in game at the end, not Crutcher and Trey.
(2) Runs play (it was not 2nd option) for X who is 1/7 from 3 instead of Baby D who is 4/5.
(3) Dayton is much more athletic and does not press to try change game.
(4) Dayton cannot stop the 3s and FTs from 2 players who had 46/72 points (14 from the FT and 18 from 3s); make anyone else beat you and these 2 guys beat you from 2.
(5) Would have liked to see Jordan Davis, is he hurt? Crutcher was not playing well and getting physicall dominated, Jordan Davis.
(6) could go on and on.

[CT Flyer]

Originally Posted by Kevinob15 Went with XW because AG wasn’t an option. Really disappointed in both really Posted via Mobile Device

Same here.

[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by CT Flyer Same here.

That makes 3 of us (so far).
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[ruechalgrin]

Actually 4 all voting for AG.

[C-time]

Make it 5.

[udx2]

Don’t disagree but the officiating didn’t help our cause either and I might split my ballot.

[Flyers98]

A bunch of guys who haven’t played a lot of basketball together, and a new coach. AG is still finding out what he has. He’s known thes players for 6 months. I agree Crosby should have been in the game but as for the play, Darrell was blanketed on both sets. You don’t think Hofstra knew he was 4-5?

I’m thinking I’ll give AG at least 5 games.

[C-time]

Originally Posted by Flyers98 Darrell was blanketed on both sets. You don’t think Hofstra knew he was 4-5?

It's pretty easy to be blanketed when you just stand in the short corner like DD did with 18 seconds left. And it's not DD's fault for standing there because it's pretty obvious that was the play. At least use him to set one of the screens or do something in the set besides just stand there.

With no timeouts I have no problem with the last play because they just had to run a normal inbounds play.

[ruechalgrin]

I support AG 100% and acknowledge this will be an up and down year, but let’s keep it real. AG did not coach a good game down the stretch. It happens.
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[maddog07]

Crutch. Bad fouls. Couldn't run the break. Abused on the boards and poor D.

Runner up AG. Didn't react to their big run. Poor sub pattern down the stretch. We lost to freaking Hofstra on a neutral court with fans outnumbering them 100 to 1.
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[CvilleFlyer]

Originally Posted by ruechalgrin I support AG 100% and acknowledge this will be an up and down year, but let’s keep it real. AG did not coach a good game down the stretch. It happens. Posted via Mobile Device

I support AG 100% as well but even he would probably say he did not coach as good as he could have down the stretch. That being said, Josh didn't play well at all. You don't go from 22 points with a beautiful game winning play to 7 points coupled with several bad fouls, especially fouling Wright-Foreman on a three point attempt which limits your playing time when the team needs you the most!

Granted, Kostas got more playing time because of Josh's foul trouble but I would like to see them both in the game together and X slide over to the 3. With DD and Crosby in there also I believe we could have pulled away at the end and got the W. Just my 2 cents!

[C-time]

Originally Posted by CvilleFlyer Granted, Kostas got more playing time because of Josh's foul trouble but I would like to see them both in the game together and X slide over to the 3.

I want to see more of that lineup too.

[jack72]

Williams because he played like a freshman. At 6'8" he has little inside game and he has left his three shot back in Dayton.
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[Smitty10]

This reminded me of Brian Gregory game. Every time the team was within striking distance, they got impatient and either turned it over or threw up a terrible 3 pointer. All game long it was blatantly obvious that we could slaughter this team offensively on the inside especially when Kostas was in there. Gregory's teams never learned how to catch up and then over take a game and I'm afraid neither will Grant's. If this doesn't change, all you that think losing AM and replacing him with Grant is a forward move will be eating crow.

Defense, absolutely horrible, so I'd take a Gregory defense over what we've seen so far in the first 2 games. I guarantee that Miller would never let the defense look like swiss cheese for the majority of the 80 minutes played like Grant has this season.

And if John Crosby wasn't injured, not having your starting PG in the game in favor of your freshman backup in the final minutes is absolutely indefensible. I always wondered why we had such an easy time with Grant's Alabama teams (yes, we had the better coach back then but they had the recruiting advantage) and now I'm worried I'm going to find out over and over and over again for who knows how many years.

	Brian Gregory BRIAN GREGORY UD Men's Basketball Head Coach since 2004. Groomed by the likes of Judd Heathcoate and Tom Izzo at Michigan State, as well as Kevin O'Neill and others, Gregory's defensive-minded leadership has led Dayton to NCAA and multiple NIT appearances. A good recruiter, BG has elevated the athleticism of the squad in recent years and kept top area talent at home. Still looking for that breakthrough season with his own players that catapult him to the NCAA tourney. Graduated from Oakland University.

[rollo]

If you've paid attention to me over the years you know that I believe every loss belongs to the coach, but how fun would this poll be if the head coach were an option every single time we lost?

Therefore, unless our coach pulls a GW and sends out 6 players in a close game and gets a 'T' that costs us the game, he will never be included.

With that said, the Royal vote went to Svoboda. I expect 21 year old freshmen to play like a junior. He played like sh*t.

[shocka43]

Originally Posted by Smitty10 Defense, absolutely horrible, so I'd take a Gregory defense over what we've seen so far in the first 2 games. I guarantee that Miller would never let the defense look like swiss cheese for the majority of the 80 minutes played like Grant has this season.

Grants defense swarms and relies on length. When there is poor rotation and the inability to stop penetration...game over. Unfortunately outside of rebounding...these are the two most important aspects of defense.

[Radar]

Went with Josh. Injuries or not, he's been around D-1 bball enough (as well a 2 yr captain) to not commit the stupid foul or disappear for long stretches. He put AG in a big hole with regard to rotations. Kostas Antetokounmpo (whew! hope I spelled that right) did his best to ease the blow, but still...

[jumpin' joe]

I'm going to pass on the Golden Rollos until at least conference play. This team and coaching staff is trying to find its identity. You don't find it in preseason practice.

[Jeff]

Should have hacked their big guy.....terrible FT shooter. Yes, I know he made a few, but the strategy of putting him on the line might have 1) lengthened the game, or 2) forced their coach to pull him, giving us a better chance on the boards.

[Flyer68]

Lighten up on AG. He has been a head coach at Alabama and VCU and assistant coach in NBA and we are going to tell him how to coach. He is trying to get to know his players, whom he did not recruit, in game situations. At least he is rotating players to get a handle on what they can and can't do and when they can and can't do it. Trying to find the best spots and positions for them to excel. You can't learn everything from watching films.

If we are doing this to AG, think of what Archie is getting at Indiana. I'm sure someone will tell us.

[Gazoo]

You guys keep saying Crosby subbed out "down the stretch". He left the game at the 9:37 mark according to the box score. And did not return.

That's not "down the stretch." Sorry rollo, on this one you should have included AG. I will vote for no one else, unless I see somewhere else that JC (5-5 FT's, 3:1 A/TO ratio) was injured and I missed it.

[NorthwestFlyer]

Originally Posted by rollo With that said, the Royal vote went to Svoboda. I expect 21 year old freshmen to play like a junior. He played like sh*t.

I don't know if that is a constructive critique of the guy, but when you turn you back on a defender on the permitter and get a foul for sticking you butt into him while he dribbles around you, maybe that is appropriate. Guy needs to get up to speed on the speed of the NCAA pretty quick. I was expecting to see a bit more basketball IQ (especially in the form of assists) and some spot up shooting from him. *sigh*

[jack72]

Not second guessing anything Coach did, other than Crosby sitting the last ten minutes, which I have to believe was discipline. His moves last game worked well and last night not as well, but that is coaching. It will take me,and others, some time to get out of the Miller paradigm and into a different style of play.
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[NorthwestFlyer]

Originally Posted by Gazoo You guys keep saying Crosby subbed out "down the stretch". He left the game at the 9:37 mark according to the box score. And did not return. That's not "down the stretch." Sorry rollo, on this one you should have included AG. I will vote for no one else, unless I see somewhere else that JC (5-5 FT's, 3:1 A/TO ratio) was injured and I missed it.

Never thought we would be calling for Crosby at the end of the game, but he is holding up to his end of the bargain this year so far.

[C-time]

Originally Posted by Flyer68 Lighten up on AG. He has been a head coach at Alabama and VCU and assistant coach in NBA and we are going to tell him how to coach. He is trying to get to know his players, whom he did not recruit, in game situations. At least he is rotating players to get a handle on what they can and can't do and when they can and can't do it. Trying to find the best spots and positions for them to excel. You can't learn everything from watching films.

But he also got fired from Alabama for not winning enough. Do we need to have some patience? Absolutely. But it's also completely fair to critique his coaching strategies. I would actually have more patience if he was a first year head coach and we could chalk some of it up to head coaching inexperience.

He is going to have a few years to build and win as he should, but I hope people do not just give him a free pass because he is an alum. My #1 fear when he was hired was that down the road UD might have trouble firing him when they should because he is an alum and a great person. I just hope that if things aren't going well at the end of year 3 or 4 Neil Sullivan has the balls to do what is necessary.

[BRob2Perryman3]

I abstain. Only one thing mattered last night. A superstar was born.

Kostas was a monster. Rebounded well,monster blocks,handled the ball and looked like a gazelle running the break.

[BRob2Perryman3]

Wheres Chicken Little when you need him? New coach,lot of new players, lost a great coach and the best class to ever walk the halls.

Patience. Give these guys time.