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UD being irrelevant during the selection show is getting real old.
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But Archie ran a rogue program and didn't want to stay here, and he was mean to the UD fans, so we had to hire a coach that would never leave and was nice to everybody.
We can't handle having a successful coach move on after 6 years, above all else, we needed to hire somebody that would be loyal and never leave. Who cares about wins and losses? Loyalty is the A#1 most important thing to look for when hiring a new hc.
Everybody wants to coach in the A10 for the rest of their career. The mighty A10, the 12th best league this year.
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Detroit Mercy not invited to the CBI, but wait!! There is another tournament option.
What the he!! is the PS8??
"But Detroit Mercy hasn't given up on securing a postseason opportunity. Another opportunity could materialize Monday. A new event called the PS8 could become an option for the Titans, according to the school. Detroit Mercy finished 14-19 and 9-11 in the Horizon League this season.
"We are awaiting word on if there is an offer from there," Detroit Mercy spokesman P.J. Gradowski told ESPN on Sunday.
Davis' pursuit of Maravich's record intensified as he entered the Horizon League tournament with a real shot at history. Davis' critics, however, pointed to the additional years and his access to the 3-point line -- Maravich played without one -- as reason to question the validity of the record if he had achieved it."
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I can’t find a website for the PS8 tournament. Will it be played in a high school gym with only walk up ticket sales? Are they really considering a team with a losing record in the Horizon and a 212 NET ranking? Does Mike Davis have any remaining respect?
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I can’t find a website for the PS8 tournament. Will it be played in a high school gym with only walk up ticket sales? Are they really considering a team with a losing record in the Horizon and a 212 NET ranking? Does Mike Davis have any remaining respect?
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All the HS gyms were booked, so they are trying to get Fordham's gym.
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PS8. Isn’t that the latest version of Sony’s PlayStation? Maybe the games are all “virtual”.
Also, did anyone else notice that the Selection Committee made sure to pit VCU as a 12-Seed against St. Mary’s as a 5-Seed? Mid-major against mid-major. IMHO, that’s so they can maximize the number of P5+ teams that can collect higher proceeds from advancing in the NCAAT. Am I wrong?
EDIT: You can add the matchup between 5-seed San Diego State and 12-seed College of Charleston as another 1st Round “Matchup of Mid-Majors”. Meanwhile, ACC power Virginia and Pac-12 power Arizona have already fallen today. Who’s next?
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****, Virginia reminds me of Dayton in so many ways. Other than being able to get to the big dance, they go through droughts with big leads, and then, that play that Mike pulled in first game against VCU, throwing hail mary, intercepted and nailed for a 3, Virginia did same up by 2 against Furman. Furman wins by one.
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That’s not what happened. He was trapped and was trying throw it high and long and have the clock run out. He just couldn’t get enough mustard on it. Dumb play either way.
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That’s not what happened. He was trapped and was trying throw it high and long and have the clock run out. He just couldn’t get enough mustard on it. Dumb play either way.
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In general, it's what happened. Trapped, throw risky long pass, lose on 3. Though if I remember correctly, Mike's play wasn't the dagger. The pass from Camara to him that was low and then I think VCU scored a 2 to win the game.
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Go watch the last 5 seconds of regulation of the Virginia/Purdue ncaa game from their championship season, and you'll see that they were extremely lucky to win that national championship. Also cost me first place in my bracket pool.
Here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHVOFjx4Tfc
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Can someone explain to me how we could send a man to the moon in 1969 yet in 2023, we can't avoid shot clock technical issues in an NCAA tournament?
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Can someone explain to me how we could send a man to the moon in 1969 yet in 2023, we can't avoid shot clock technical issues in an NCAA tournament?
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NYT, CNN, MSNBC and Xi Jinping are reporting that then President Donald J. Trump signed an Executive Order in 2017 that increased the voltage of shot clock light bulbs which is the sole cause of California blizzards, shot clock issues and lost weather balloons.
Nobody has place blame on DJT for the missed dunks...yet.
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NYT, CNN, MSNBC and Xi Jinping are reporting that then President Donald J. Trump signed an Executive Order in 2017 that increased the voltage of shot clock light bulbs which is the sole cause of California blizzards, shot clock issues and lost weather balloons.
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And of course they ignored the fact that the shot clock technical problems started under the Obama administration.
Also, Obama was running things that time the power went out during the Super Bowl. Has to be related to shot clock technical difficulties.
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NYT, CNN, MSNBC and Xi Jinping are reporting that then President Donald J. Trump signed an Executive Order in 2017 that increased the voltage of shot clock light bulbs which is the sole cause of California blizzards, shot clock issues and lost weather balloons.
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Can someone explain to me how we could send a man to the moon in 1969 yet in 2023, we can't avoid shot clock technical issues in an NCAA tournament?
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The shot clocks were made in China. It’s all part of their plot to take over the world.
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How come the Mitchell twins didn't have to sit when they went to Arkansas? It was their second transfer.
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My guess is that they already sat a year.
They started at Maryland in November 2019, they transferred out of Maryland in December 2019. They then transferred to RI. They didn't play at RI until December 2020, so that would be the 12 months of sitting out.
They played two years at RI. So from December 2020 until March 2022 at RI. Started at Arkansas in November 2022.
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My guess is that they already sat a year.
They started at Maryland in November 2019, they transferred out of Maryland in December 2019. They then transferred to RI. They didn't play at RI until December 2020, so that would be the 12 months of sitting out.
They played two years at RI. So from December 2020 until March 2022 at RI. Started at Arkansas in November 2022.
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Purdue 1 seed out of Big Ten vs FDU Columbus, Ohio FDU leading by 1 with 3 minutes to go
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Michigan 1 seed out of Big Ten vs FDU UD Arena (I was there chanting FDU with the rest of the crowd.) FDU led almost the whole game all the way into the final minute and lost by 3.
This was the game right before the Flyers played and lost to champion Villanova.
Got Deja Vu out the ass. While UMBC has the only 16 seed win against a #1. FDU will have the 2 closest(or win if they hold on) separated by 38 years.
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That 5’8” Nowell on K State is amazing. 27pts and 9 assists in beating KY. Who needs size? Give us speed and shooting ability.
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That 5’8” Nowell on K State is amazing. 27pts and 9 assists in beating KY. Who needs size? Give us speed and shooting ability.
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I believe he was recruited by UD at one point
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I know that it is probably not in their job description, but I think these head coaches should be responsible for helping mold their assistants into head coaches.
Sometimes when the head coach moves on to another job, the school makes one of the assistants the new head coach, and the assistant doesn't work out as a head coach, and I wonder what happened.
I mean that assistant just spent years being around that successful head coach and watching his every move: all those practices, all those games, all that recruiting, all those press conferences, and then the assistant gets his shot, and he doesn't really look like he knows what he is doing. How can that be? Wasn't he paying attention during all those years? The new guy didn't have to change a thing, just do what the previous guy did and keep it rolling.
Or the assistant gets the hc job at another school. And the system he implements at the new school looks nothing at all like the system from the school that he came from.
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Totally agree. It’s much like a businessman that starts a company and is successful. His son or daughter takes over when dad retires and runs the business into the ground.
Being around successful people/ programs, in no way insures you’ll have the same success. It can unquestionably help, but no guarantee.
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Totally agree. It’s much like a businessman that starts a company and is successful. His son or daughter takes over when dad retires and runs the business into the ground.
Being around successful people/ programs, in no way insures you’ll have the same success. It can unquestionably help, but no guarantee.
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Lots of really good NFL O or D coordinators have failed miserably as head coaches multiple times. Being a great leader is more important in a head coach role than being a great Xs and Os guy. Both are important and there needs to be balance but if no one is following you, it doesn't matter how great your battle plan is.
We've seen AG's offense be very, very successful when he has his guys at all positions with 100% buy in. 2020 can't be ignored in any decision that is made by either AG or Neil.
Trials and failure can be a great step in growth and can make you stronger or it can ruin you. One of the reasons I hope AG continues here is because I've seen what he can do and if he can adjust as necessary to the changing environment around him, he can repeat 2020 and he won't likely use it as a stepping stone to a better offer.
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Lots of really good NFL O or D coordinators have failed miserably as head coaches multiple times. Being a great leader is more important in a head coach role than being a great Xs and Os guy. Both are important and there needs to be balance but if no one is following you, it doesn't matter how great your battle plan is.
We've seen AG's offense be very, very successful when he has his guys at all positions with 100% buy in. 2020 can't be ignored in any decision that is made by either AG or Neil.
Trials and failure can be a great step in growth and can make you stronger or it can ruin you. One of the reasons I hope AG continues here is because I've seen what he can do and if he can adjust as necessary to the changing environment around him, he can repeat 2020 and he won't likely use it as a stepping stone to a better offer.
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This is AG's last stop; he's approaching retirement age - I really can't see him moving unless it's someplace really close to his folks in Florida, then possibly.
I agree with all that you say above. I think there's 2 very opposite camps on this board and a few that mingle in between. Nobody's likely to change anybody else's mind that they disagree with.
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This is AG's last stop; he's approaching retirement age - I really can't see him moving unless it's someplace really close to his folks in Florida, then possibly.
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Lots of really good NFL O or D coordinators have failed miserably as head coaches multiple times. Being a great leader is more important in a head coach role than being a great Xs and Os guy. Both are important and there needs to be balance but if no one is following you, it doesn't matter how great your battle plan is.
We've seen AG's offense be very, very successful when he has his guys at all positions with 100% buy in. 2020 can't be ignored in any decision that is made by either AG or Neil.
Trials and failure can be a great step in growth and can make you stronger or it can ruin you. One of the reasons I hope AG continues here is because I've seen what he can do and if he can adjust as necessary to the changing environment around him, he can repeat 2020 and he won't likely use it as a stepping stone to a better offer.
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He doesn’t adjust though. We’ve seen that the other 5 years at UD (not to mention his time at Alabama). 2020 is a complete outlier
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He doesn’t adjust though. We’ve seen that the other 5 years at UD (not to mention his time at Alabama). 2020 is a complete outlier
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What point are you trying to make?
Gonzaga has made 8 sweet 16s in a row and is in the elite 8 for the 4th time in the last 6 years.
Mick Cronin was in the final 4 two years ago and goes to the NCAAs every year.
Anthony Grant has no idea how a 2 for 1 at the end of a half works and can’t even advance in the NIT
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What point are you trying to make?
Gonzaga has made 8 sweet 16s in a row and is in the elite 8 for the 4th time in the last 6 years.
Mick Cronin was in the final 4 two years ago and goes to the NCAAs every year.
Anthony Grant has no idea how a 2 for 1 at the end of a half works and can’t even advance in the NIT
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Gonzaga was down 13 at the half iinm, great comeback. UCLA looked great in the first half, I thought they were gonna win based upon the first half.
Very long range bomb from 3 to win it for Gonzaga. His feet were on the s in the March Madness halfcourt logo.
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UCLA is 0 for their last 11 and is down 9 with 1:24. Cronin can’t coach, obviously.
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Did I hear correctly last nite that Mick has been in the NCAA 4 straight years since arriving at UCLA?
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Mark Few was up 9 with 1:24 left and is now down 1 with 12s left. He obviously can’t coach.
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And Mark Few has been at something like 14 straight NCAA's with the Zag's
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Did anybody else besides me have a flashback in the Kansas St. Michigan St. game last night when the game was tied at 92 all in the overtime with a minute remaining? If covid hadn't cancelled the 2020 NCAA Tournament I pictured Jalen Crutcher and Obi Toppin making the same reverse alley-oop dunk like that in a critical moment in an important game heading to the championship! Marquis Nowell said he made eye contact with Keyontae Johnson just as we witnessed Jalen and Obi do many times during the best season in 50 years for the Flyers!
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It looked like Nowell was chatting with the coach as if it was going to be a called play. I think it was intentional and the chatting with the coach was part of the play to distract the defenders and for them to let their gurard down.
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It looked like Nowell was chatting with the coach as if it was going to be a called play. I think it was intentional and the chatting with the coach was part of the play to distract the defenders and for them to let their gurard down.
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That was a set play. You can only use it once obviously, but that was the time to do it.
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It looked like Nowell was chatting with the coach as if it was going to be a called play. I think it was intentional and the chatting with the coach was part of the play to distract the defenders and for them to let their gurard down.
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No, the Kansas St. coach, Jerome Tang, stated that the conversation was not rehearsed to purposely distract the Michigan St. players but because he had one play called and Nowell wanted to change it. When Nowell saw Keyontae Johnson running the baseline he got eye contact and delivered the lob pass for the dunk.
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What a great game....Florida Atlantic vs. K-State. This Florida Atlantic team is the real deal. Up 3 at end of game they elect NOT to foul. Thoroughly enjoyable game Let's Go FAU!
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What a great game....Florida Atlantic vs. K-State. This Florida Atlantic team is the real deal. Up 3 at end of game they elect NOT to foul. Thoroughly enjoyable game Let's Go FAU!
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And I was screaming at the TV! Luckily for them it worked out. It was a great game.
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Not lucky at all. They played the odds and won. I don’t know why people keep saying this as the great majority of teams don’t foul up 3 and your odds to win are better if you don’t foul. There’s a lot that can go wrong fouling late up 3. I remember the Fordham game at the end of the half when the Flyers tried this strategy and the ref called a foul (wrongly in my opinion) on the shot.
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Not lucky at all. They played the odds and won. I don’t know why people keep saying this as the great majority of teams don’t foul up 3 and your odds to win are better if you don’t foul. There’s a lot that can go wrong fouling late up 3. I remember the Fordham game at the end of the half when the Flyers tried this strategy and the ref called a foul (wrongly in my opinion) on the shot.
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Still, for coaches that trust their team's ability to hit their free throws and to execute a last-second foul, fouling appears to be the better strategy.
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And UConn is currently thrashing Gonzaga. Hard to believe a Mark Few-coached team is being taken to the woodshed like this.
And, only because someone else will say it if I don’t: “He must suck as a coach. He oughta be fired!”
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And UConn is currently thrashing Gonzaga. Hard to believe a Mark Few-coached team is being taken to the woodshed like this.
And, only because someone else will say it if I don’t: “He must suck as a coach. He oughta be fired!”
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This has happened before, Gonzaga got whipped by Baylor in the 2021 title game, 86-70.
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This has happened before, Gonzaga got whipped by Baylor in the 2021 title game, 86-70.
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And UConn is currently thrashing Gonzaga. Hard to believe a Mark Few-coached team is being taken to the woodshed like this.
And, only because someone else will say it if I don’t: “He must suck as a coach. He oughta be fired!”
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This has happened before, Gonzaga got whipped by Baylor in the 2021 title game, 86-70.
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But I'd take a player like Timme every time. Wouldn't you?
And for whatever reason the Zags are in the mix more times than not (and waaaaaaaay more times than UD) they just don't seem to get over that hump at this level in the T.
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A universal is fans are always upset with the coach, because he falls short of expectations. Gonzaga fans are upset with Few because he can't win a national championship. Kentucky fans want a new coach because they have not won a national championship.
Grant missed the NCAA barely the last two years. Realistically, this year if they beat VCU, they would have lost in the first round. If Grant had lost in the first round each of the last two years, fans would want a coach who could win an NCAA game.
The answer is almost always get a new coach.
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A universal is fans are always upset with the coach, because he falls short of expectations. Gonzaga fans are upset with Few because he can't win a national championship. Kentucky fans want a new coach because they have not won a national championship.
Grant missed the NCAA barely the last two years. Realistically, this year if they beat VCU, they would have lost in the first round. If Grant had lost in the first round each of the last two years, fans would want a coach who could win an NCAA game.
The answer is almost always get a new coach.
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Fans aren't ever completely happy I suppose, but posters were pretty happy with Archie here.
I don't think Gonzaga fans want Few to be fired.
If Grant had made the last two ncaat's, nobody would want him to be fired.
Kentucky fans may be getting antsy with Calipari, but that is a unique situation, Kentucky expects a national title every so often.
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This is the heat that Few got last year.
https://thecomeback.com/ncaa/mark-fe...criticism.html
Fans want more than what is delivered. Read the message boards for each fan base. VCU, North Carolina, Michigan State and so on....
Fans think coaching and winning is easier than it really is.
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This is the heat that Few got last year.
https://thecomeback.com/ncaa/mark-fe...criticism.html
Fans want more than what is delivered. Read the message boards for each fan base. VCU, North Carolina, Michigan State and so on....
Fans think coaching and winning is easier than it really is.
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I was thinking about Few last night. He essentially built that program to the level it is at now, I understand that GU fans are upset with him, but let's say he leaves, are they able to sustain the winning without him? Be careful what you wish for.
How many coaches want to coach in Spokane in the WCC league? And how many coaches will stay for as long as Few has?
And I see that Few's salary was only $1.8 million per year in 2021, I am not sure if that is his total pay, but he is worth much more than that. They have a real good thing going there, they will probably win the title eventually, I wouldn't mess with it.
https://www.gonzagabulletin.com/opin...d68e903b3.html
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Few has been at Gonzaga since 1989.
https://clutchpoints.com/mark-fews-net-worth-in-2021:
However, it was still far from what he made when he started coaching, which happened even before he graduated from the University of Oregon.
Few got his start in coaching at his alma mater, Creswell High School, where he first became an unpaid part-time assistant. From there, he coached in basketball camps and served as an assistant at another high school before moving on to college basketball.
Few began his successful partnership with Gonzaga back in 1989, when he joined the Bulldogs’ coaching staff as a graduate assistant under Dan Fitzgerald. A year later, he was promoted to a full-time assistant and worked with head coach Dan Monson. It took nine more seasons before he became the team’s head coach after Monson took over the head coaching post of the Minnesota Golden Gophers.
At the time, the Bulldogs had already tasted postseason success. They were even coming off a Cinderella run in the NCAA Tournament the previous season, when they made it all the way to the Elite Eight, only to lose to eventual champion UConn. Few faced pressure to continue the program’s rise once he was named as head coach, and he more than delivered, establishing Gonzaga as a force to be reckoned in college basketball.
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I was thinking about Few last night. He essentially built that program to the level it is at now, I understand that GU fans are upset with him, but let's say he leaves, are they able to sustain the winning without him? Be careful what you wish for.
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Funny stuff, Zags fans get upset because he does not win it all. We have a bunch of fans that tolerate not even making the NCAA. I guess we cannot get upset about not winning it all, when we cannot even get invited to the dance... rinse and repeat.
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A universal is fans are always upset with the coach, because he falls short of expectations. Gonzaga fans are upset with Few because he can't win a national championship. Kentucky fans want a new coach because they have not won a national championship.
Grant missed the NCAA barely the last two years. Realistically, this year if they beat VCU, they would have lost in the first round. If Grant had lost in the first round each of the last two years, fans would want a coach who could win an NCAA game.
The answer is almost always get a new coach.
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I would modify it slightly to say that the most vocal of fans are almost never happy because they always want at least a little better than where they are. There is no way the 5+ most vocal here would be pleased with their 3/6 standard if AM had stayed, had average to on the cusp the next 3 years with no bid then a bid every other year for the next 10 years if most/all ended in round 1 or 2.
VCU is the evidence. They’ve met the 3/6 for I believe the last 15 years. They haven’t won a tourney game in 10 years. The vocal here hold them up as the example UD could be. The same vocals there aren’t happy and haven’t been for years.
All passionate fans have a line where they l’ll say “it’s time”. We have that in common. One doesn’t have to right and the other wrong -they are just different. The key difference is recognizing 1.) that I won’t be satisfied with the latest goal for long if reached 2.) The grass at the next level isn’t as tasty and satisfying as I was sure it would be.
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I'll take the baby steps approach. I'll be happy making the tourney regularly. But once we do that my expectations will expand to wanting to win in the tourney on a regular basis.
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I'll take the baby steps approach. I'll be happy making the tourney regularly. But once we do that my expectations will expand to wanting to win in the tourney on a regular basis.
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I agree, I will be happy with baby steps at first. After a while though, you need to start advancing in the ncaat, otherwise you end up with a Rick Barnes at Texas or Ed Cooley at Providence situation where things have stalled out, and it is time for a change. You can't lose in the first or second round of the ncaat the large majority of the time.
We can't even get into the ncaat right now though, first things first.
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I would modify it slightly to say that the most vocal of fans are almost never happy because they always want at least a little better than where they are. There is no way the 5+ most vocal here would be pleased with their 3/6 standard if AM had stayed, had average to on the cusp the next 3 years with no bid then a bid every other year for the next 10 years if most/all ended in round 1 or 2.
VCU is the evidence. They’ve met the 3/6 for I believe the last 15 years. They haven’t won a tourney game in 10 years. The vocal here hold them up as the example UD could be. The same vocals there aren’t happy and haven’t been for years.
All passionate fans have a line where they l’ll say “it’s time”. We have that in common. One doesn’t have to right and the other wrong -they are just different. The key difference is recognizing 1.) that I won’t be satisfied with the latest goal for long if reached 2.) The grass at the next level isn’t as tasty and satisfying as I was sure it would be.
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I think the VCU fans are ticked off because Rhoades is only 3 or 6 there, and he is 0 for 3 in the ncaat. Rhoades has not kept up with the performance of Wade, Smart, and Grant before him, so they feel like the program has gone backwards under Rhoades. Wade, Smart, and Grant set the bar pretty high before Rhoades got there.
I won't be surprised if Rhoades leaves to take the job at Penn State, he may feel unappreciated at VCU.
Seems like the A10 is losing coaches: English and Rhoades and Kyle Neptune at Fordham last year.
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Edit: Mou with a steal to seal the win. Mean Green headed to the NIT Championship.
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My Gawd, that guy who coaches Florida Atlantic lost a 14-point 2nd Half lead, in a National Semifinal game no less! He obviously can’t coach! I say, Fire His @$$!
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So glad that bogus technical foul didn't cost SDSU the game.
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What I noticed about UConn is that even with a double digit lead they were playing like the team that was behind. No milking the shot clock. Get and offensive rebound? Put it right back up. There is something to be said for not taking your foot off the gas when you are ahead.
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FAU also kept their foot on the gas when they had a 14 point lead, except for their last shot when ahead by 1, they milked the clock, then had their shortest player drive to the basket and get his shot blocked.
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Originally Posted by older than u
FAU also kept their foot on the gas when they had a 14 point lead, except for their last shot when ahead by 1, they milked the clock, then had their shortest player drive to the basket and get his shot blocked.
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Kind of like our Wisconsin game
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Originally Posted by Swampy Meadows
What I noticed about UConn is that even with a double digit lead they were playing like the team that was behind. No milking the shot clock. Get and offensive rebound? Put it right back up. There is something to be said for not taking your foot off the gas when you are ahead.
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I watched the last 10 minutes or so of the Florida Atlantic game, FAU gave up a bunch of offensive rebounds, that was the difference down the stretch IMO. SDSU kept missing, but FAU wouldn't get the rebound and kept leaving the door open. SDSU was even getting offensive rebounds off of missed free throws. FAU had their chances, they just didn't finish it off. FAU had around a 15 point 2nd half lead iinm.
A lot of crazy things happen in these Final 4, lose and you are done games.
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And mad props to UConn hc Dan Hurley. UConn has won every ncaat game so far by 13 or more points.
I was skeptical about Hurley as a coach at the next level based upon some of his offensive coaching at RI, but he proved me wrong. The UConn offense Torvik ranking for the last 3 years including this year:
2023...3
2022...22
2021...18
All 8 of UConn's losses were to a Big East team.
I like Sanogo, he is a beast.
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Originally Posted by ud2
And mad props to UConn hc Dan Hurley. .
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Screw Hurley
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In case any of you have been living in a bubble and missed it, Iowa just tipped off in the Womens Championship game. One hell of a fun team to watch play.
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LSU taking it to Iowa so far.
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Originally Posted by cj
LSU taking it to Iowa so far.
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As are the officials!
BS technical on Clark
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I have watched many grade school, high school and college basketball games over the years. I cannot recall a worse officiated game. I wonder if they ordered 3 extra championship rings.
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If refs can only call what they see, then these must have been the three blind mice.
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