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Old 11-17-2016, 01:24 AM
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Saint Mary's Game Thread

One of the best non-conference teams to come to the Arena in quite some time... We will battle through the recent adversity and compete at a great level against a top 20 team.

Game is on Saturday at 2 PM and will be shown on Fox Sports Ohio.

Starting Lineup:

G 3 Emmett Naar 6’1” 195 JR Sydney, Australia
G 25 Joe Rahon 6’2” 195 SR San Diego, California
F 24 Calvin Hermanson 6’6” 200 JR Lake Oswego, Oregon
F 21 Evan Fitzner 6’10” 230 SO San Diego, California
C 34 Jock Landale 6’11” 255 JR E Malvern, Australia

Through the 1st 2 Games... Landale avg 23 PPG 8.5 RPG... Naar avg 11 PPG 9.5 APG

This will be one heck of a test against a smaller, undermanned team.

I have no doubt Archie and the staff will have the team ready... I Believe... Go UD!
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Old 11-17-2016, 10:02 AM
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St. Mary's beat Prairie View A&M 110-72 last night. PV is not good (kenpom=308th) and was playing their 3rd west coast road game in 6 days. SMC had 7 players in double figures and played only one player more than 22 minutes.

Game story: http://www.espn.com/mens-college-bas...meId=400915722
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If Arch figures this one out, he's a magician. If we can keep this one close (within 5 with 5 to go) I like us for the way we finish. If the absence of two starters is too much to overcome, no one should be shocked. This St Mary's team checks all the blocks needed to support their #16 ranking, and they are all healthy and experienced.
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If Arch figures this one out, he's a magician. If we can keep this one close (within 5 with 5 to go) I like us for the way we finish. If the absence of two starters is too much to overcome, no one should be shocked. This St Mary's team checks all the blocks needed to support their #16 ranking, and they are all healthy and experienced.
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Old 11-19-2016, 09:41 AM
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SM is huge up front. Not only will we miss Pollard and Cunningham, we have very few fouls to give. Look for them to pound it inside and if we double team, kick outs to open shooters will haunt us. If we foul, Sam and X will sit, and we are really in trouble. The prospects of this game have me sick, and also sick from what could have been with Steve, Pollard and Cunningham.
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Vegas has UD -3
Line opened at UD -1 at most books and has moved all the way to UD +2.5. That's a big points
move. 94% of money bet on SMC so far:
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Line opened at UD -1 at most books and has moved all the way to UD +2.5. That's a big points
move. 94% of money bet on SMC so far:
http://www.scoresandodds.com/casinogrid.html
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Old 11-19-2016, 12:33 PM
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94%? See all those big beautiful eye-popping buildings in Vegas? They were built with the public betting at 94% on games
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The line movement is correct...how did you come up with the betting action?
Go to the link, then down to the UD game. It's the first college bball game listed. The far right side of the page has the betting action. And I did make a mistake. The 94% was the money line betting split. The point spread betting split is currently 64/36 for SMC. So heavy both ways on SMC, just more so on money line. I would expect both the even out now the SMC is the favorite.
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Go to the link, then down to the UD game. It's the first college bball game listed. The far right side of the page has the betting action. And I did make a mistake. The 94% was the money line betting split. The point spread betting split is currently 64/36 for SMC. So heavy both ways on SMC, just more so on money line. I would expect both the even out now the SMC is the favorite.
Thanks for the steer. Expect the line movement to even up the action ...that's the objective of Vegas.
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Bookies and oddsmakers and sharps look at pure numbers. You cannot quantify heart. I dont care about any of it. I DO know Scooch,Kyle and Charles are gonna be playing a ton of amped up minutes and Archie is piloting the ship. 94% be like "Oh well, lets hit the buffet"
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Looks like it is radio only for me. Tried the link on DaytonFlyers.com and then signed in with my Dish account but I get this message:

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Looks like it is radio only for me. Tried the link on DaytonFlyers.com and then signed in with my Dish account but I get this message:

We're sorry -- your TV Provider Account doesn't include access to "Saint Mary's at Dayton".

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Getting the same here on LI with Optimum
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Looks like it is radio only for me. Tried the link on DaytonFlyers.com and then signed in with my Dish account but I get this message:

We're sorry -- your TV Provider Account doesn't include access to "Saint Mary's at Dayton".

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This is absurd. How are we playing a ranked team at home and it isn't on TV.
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Only 8-7 at the first time out. Williams is a disaster out there. Lost his man for a dunk and then travels on a wide open three.
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This is absurd. How are we playing a ranked team at home and it isn't on TV.
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Make sure you have a good popup blocker... But here's the video stream:

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Got the same with ATT U-Verse. Looking for a video stream. Anyone got anything?
Same with Comcast Xfinity in Georgia. Is this what we will get with our "free" streaming this year?
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Make sure you have a good popup blocker... But here's the video stream:

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Thanks much. Link 2 on that page is working great. And yes, be careful with spam and popups.
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Got the same with ATT U-Verse. Looking for a video stream. Anyone got anything?
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Make sure you have a good popup blocker... But here's the video stream:

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Had a chance to cut it down to 4 with Cooke at the line.......frustrating to watch really
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Huge momentum shift when Cooke missed front end of 1 and 1 when 32-26, could have cut it to 4.

Turnovers killing Dayton with 8 compared to St Mary's 5. Only being outrebounded by 4 which is fine.

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This is absurd. How are we playing a ranked team at home and it isn't on TV.
If you have dish, it is on TV. Nationally Televised on Fox Sports Ohio Channel 412-15.
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Look like a bottom feeding A10 team. Losing Cunningham for the year may be the nail in the coffin making this season too hard to overcome. Archie is a magician, we will see what the second half brings but I beginning to look at this season as a what if.
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Look like a bottom feeding A10 team. Losing Cunningham for the year may be the nail in the coffin making this season too hard to overcome. Archie is a magician, we will see what the second half brings but I beginning to look at this season as a what if.
With Pollard back, all will be ok.
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How do you know Pollard will be back / last the whole season when he returns? Just being real, this could be a lost non conf schedule if they don't strap up and make this a game in the second half
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They are letting us back in and we throw up 1-8. With no inside game, it is hard to get a decent shot.
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Please sit X, zero effort 2x on defense.
X is weak and now winded. How can you be out of shape, and not be able to play 23 minutes out of 31?
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X is weak and now winded. How can you be out of shape, and not be able to play 23 minutes out of 31?
Not sure if it's effort or being out of shape, I think Arch may have missed the boat on this kid. Not sure he is talented enough to play at this level.
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Scoochie is 5/9; rest of team is 5/27. Shoot 13/27 and tied game. Gaels not playing good d, these are open shots missing. It happens
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Mikesell, Williams and Miller are 2-14. Great defensive strategy, cover Smith and Cooke and let those guys shoot every shot.

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Scoochie is 5/9; rest of team is 5/27. Shoot 13/27 and tied game. Gaels not playing good d, these are open shots missing. It happens
Dayton's sophomores are 2-19
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Cut it to 12 and X no defense then does not rebound
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Thankfully they started calling some over the backs. If not we'd be down 30.
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Defense has been good, rebounding fine, free throws good. Cannot shoot and -4 turnovers. Really comes down to shooting

If you told me Dayton held them to 56 with 330 to go, guarantee Flyers winning ....
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Sophomore class is disappointing so far this season. RM is the only one who is showing any improvements.
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Only 34-28 on rebounds. The 5-22 shooting this half has done us in. But again, when you have zero inside game, the shots will be tough ones.
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They are 10 of 11 on free throws. and an air ball.
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Old 11-19-2016, 03:51 PM
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#22 took out Sam, no call and another injury to a big.
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Wow!

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Reading this thread, I believe listening on the radio is significantly behind those of you watching the game on television.
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Lots of if's, but if Cooke makes that free throw and Sam made his, we would be tied.
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Old 11-19-2016, 03:58 PM
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100% should be UD ball with 23 seconds down 2
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Their ball with 23 seconds. Have to hope they will miss at least one free throw.
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Terrible call
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What the H was that X??

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We had our chance...and blew it. But gotta give it up these guys came back
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Incredible last few minutes. A bit of that intensity earlier may have changed this game.

It gave the sophs some intense experience and I hope that it benefits them.
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With smaller line-up and deep bench, Archie needs to press and extend defense more.
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No Trey Landers? You would think at sometime during the first 32 minutes Archie might have been looking for someone --anyone-- who might have some fight.
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No Trey Landers? You would think at sometime during the first 32 minutes Archie might have been looking for someone --anyone-- who might have some fight.
Trey still learning defense rotations, Archie's defense is not easy to learn particularly as a freshman.
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I had no idea who we were playing, or who any of the guys on the floor for the other team, seeing as how the arena had no programs left at either of the locations on the west end, at 144 PM. Did not realize having enough for everyone was such a challenge.
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Is XW the least smart player we have had in a long time?
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Is XW the least smart player we have had in a long time?
And least skilled basketball wise...might be athletic but doesn't have any pure skill or basketball intelligence.
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And least skilled basketball wise...might be athletic but doesn't have any pure skill or basketball intelligence.
... or strength or shot.
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