UD to face Cincinnati in "Secret Scrimmage"

[lhsgolf19]

Saturday, October 26th at Fifth Third Arena

David Jablonski
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Dayton's opponent in the annual closed-door or "secret" scrimmage is Cincinnati, according to a source

https://www.daytondailynews.com/spor...CYYydN0OFgrXK/

[Medford]

Makes sense, John Brannen used to be on CAG staff, took over the last handful of games (NIT) when when Grant was let go at Bama

[John C.]

Gee maybe a thawing of sorts. Would be nice to get them on the schedule.

[longtimefan]

Originally Posted by John C. Gee maybe a thawing of sorts. Would be GREAT to get them on the schedule.

Corrected it for you.

[Radar]

Game should be played at Wright State.

[Medford]

Play at Middletown High School.


I'm surprised the NCAA hasn't let up and allowed these games to be open to the public with ticket sales, concessions, etc.... I know they allow it if they are using it as a fund raiser (seems like a good year for such a thing UD), I guess the coaches and ADs in general don't want that to happen. It would be way more interesting to see them operate in a scrimmage like this than vs a D3 school.

[TA111]

Originally Posted by Medford Play at Middletown High School. I'm surprised the NCAA hasn't let up and allowed these games to be open to the public with ticket sales, concessions, etc.... I know they allow it if they are using it as a fund raiser (seems like a good year for such a thing UD), I guess the coaches and ADs in general don't want that to happen. It would be way more interesting to see them operate in a scrimmage like this than vs a D3 school.

Because they’re not handled like “games” but rather scrimmages where there is stopping and starting by coaches and teaching in between.

[AZFlyer85]

who gives a flying fig, UD always loses these things

[Glen Clark]

Dayton's women's volleyball team played Pitt for their preseason warm-up, and it wasn't a secret. Pitt is not division II or III - in fact, they are ranked in the top 10 nationally. BTW, the Flyers won in five sets.

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[Medford]

Originally Posted by TA111 Because they’re not handled like “games” but rather scrimmages where there is stopping and starting by coaches and teaching in between.

Which is exactly why it would be more interesting. People, approx 80-100K of them attended OSU's spring game this past year, which is essentially the same thing. People show up to red and blue games or midnight madness.

[steverino015]

anyone that has any info they can post after the secret scrimmage...
how we looked, anyone stand out, etc

that would be awesome

[Swampy Meadows]

Jeff Goodman if Stadium.com has been getting details on most of them so far.
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[lhsgolf19]

I wouldn't take a lot out of it once it starts to leak

Jalen and Jordy probably aren't gonna play

UC's best player, Jaaron Cumberland, is injured I believe and probably won't play.

But we'll see

[steverino015]

I am not taking a lot out of it.. just wanted to know if anyone
has any information...

[bcross]

Do we know if we have ever won one of these games?

I'm wondering if we will even hear that much. There was little info leaked on the UD/NKU matchup, so it may be the same with Grant/Brannen again in this case.

[frisco flyer]

I got this from a UC message board:
"Heard uc and Dayton played four 10 minute quarters and reset the score each quarter. Seemed like Uc won though...this is just what I heard"

[Bigtimeflyersguy]

Originally Posted by frisco flyer I got this from a UC message board: "Heard uc and Dayton played four 10 minute quarters and reset the score each quarter. Seemed like Uc won though...this is just what I heard"

Could you provide a link to that post please?
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[joeybaloney]

Originally Posted by Bigtimeflyersguy Could you provide a link to that post please? Posted via Mobile Device

https://247sports.com/college/cincin...478342/?page=2

[frisco flyer]

A poster on another UC message board claims UD won:
https://bearcatnews.com/forum/basket...tion-scrimmage

I don’t understand why they don’t open up these not-so-secret scrimmages.

[frisco flyer]

Any students here? Hit the bars tonight and if you see any players buy them a few drinks, then ask them what they did today.

[Flyer Dave]

Originally Posted by frisco flyer Any students here? Hit the bars tonight and if you see any players buy them a few drinks, then ask them what they did today.

Do not buy players drinks!

[Buckleyma]

I got a kick out of one of the comments on this Cincinnati board. It said, “I don’t get the secrecy around these kind of things. .... We are not talking nuclear launch codes here.”
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[jack72]

It is interesting that winning or losing is the last goal of these scrimmages, but it is first and foremost on many people's minds. Hopefully there will be some comments about how the team played and how some of the guys played. I would love to know how we shot the three ball and how we rebounded against a very physical team.

[springborofan]

I toured the UC site. Good to see another fan base hate X as much as I do 😄

[soccergod]

According to what’s being posted on UC message board Dayton won at the buzzer and everyone played . Take it for what it’s worth
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[soccergod]

That’s everyone for UC played !
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[steverino015]

Originally Posted by jack72 It is interesting that winning or losing is the last goal of these scrimmages, but it is first and foremost on many people's minds. Hopefully there will be some comments about how the team played and how some of the guys played. I would love to know how we shot the three ball and how we rebounded against a very physical team.

I know... oh well,

but it would of been nice to know if, sometime during the scrimmage, did Grant play Obi, Jordy and Chase at the same time?

how did our outside shooters look like?

is Iba looking like we got someone who could be special?

which combinations looked the best?
thanks for all the responses from eveyone...)

[rollo]

They don't play these 'games' to 'win'. They play to see who's ready to start the season.

'secret-scrimmages', 'walk-ons' and 'redshirts' are wayyyy over-analyzed and discussed around here.

[m21eagle45]

Originally Posted by steverino015 I know... oh well, but it would of been nice to know if, sometime during the scrimmage, did Grant play Obi, Jordy and Chase at the same time? how did our outside shooters look like? is Iba looking like we got someone who could be special? which combinations looked the best? thanks for all the responses from eveyone...)

You are not going to get that info from a secret scrimmage. You might see a box score and hear a report that 1 or 2 players played well and that is it. There is a reason these are closed door.

[Brad S.]

Originally Posted by rollo They don't play these 'games' to 'win'. They play to see who's ready to start the season.

And to try some rotations that might not otherwise see the light of day.

[Buster Goode]

Reading that UC message board, they clearly don't know anything about our team. Love reading ill-informed analysis.

[ud2]

Originally Posted by Buster Goode Reading that UC message board, they clearly don't know anything about our team. Love reading ill-informed analysis.

We are not even really on their radar, they think of us as an inconsequential, mid-major A10 team. We need longer-term, sustained success to change the perception. Our success is too uneven. I almost never hear UC fans talk about UD. All the hate is directed at Xavier.

	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

[Gazoo]

Originally Posted by rollo They don't play these 'games' to 'win'. They play to see who's ready to start the season. 'secret-scrimmages', 'walk-ons' and 'redshirts' are wayyyy over-analyzed and discussed around here.

Agreed, they play every situation to win, but not the game. Often that means putting players in uncomfortable situations that are non-win-maximizing, but potentially player-potential-maximizing.


Like having a walk-on on the court in the closing seconds because Grant wants to see the other 4 players support someone who is not strong enough to carry his own water. You want the 5 on the floor to play to win that 20 seconds, but if you were trying to win the "game" you would never do something like that.