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04-11-2018, 10:57 AM
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04-11-2018, 11:16 AM
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04-11-2018, 11:20 AM
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The old "Kansas did not know and was a victim" spiel.......LMAO.
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04-25-2018, 12:30 PM
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http://www.realclearlife.com/sports/...ters-for-life/:
The panel that NCAA basketball asked to fix its sport after a federal probe revealed rampant bribery and corruption issued its recommendations for reforming the game on Wednesday.
In a 60-page report, the Commission on College Basketball told the NCAA it should consider eliminating the one-and-done rule, banning cheating coaches for life and allowing players to return to school if they don’t get drafted into the NBA.
“The goal should not be to turn college basketball into another professional league,” the commission wrote in its report.
Former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice presented the commission’s findings to the NCAA board of governors and Division I board of directors on Wednesday at NCAA headquarters.
“The members of this commission come from a wide variety of backgrounds, but the one thing that they share in common is that they believe the college basketball enterprise is worth saving,” Rice told The AP Tuesday night. “We believe there’s a lot of work to do in that regard. That the state of the game is not very strong.”
At this point, it’s unclear which, if any, of the commission’s recommendations will be adopted in time for next season.
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04-25-2018, 12:55 PM
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Wow. That does not sound good at all. Prepare for a lot of changes.
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04-25-2018, 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by ud2
http://www.realclearlife.com/sports/...ters-for-life/:
The panel that NCAA basketball asked to fix its sport after a federal probe revealed rampant bribery and corruption issued its recommendations for reforming the game on Wednesday.
In a 60-page report, the Commission on College Basketball told the NCAA it should consider eliminating the one-and-done rule, banning cheating coaches for life and allowing players to return to school if they don’t get drafted into the NBA.
“The goal should not be to turn college basketball into another professional league,” the commission wrote in its report.
Former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice presented the commission’s findings to the NCAA board of governors and Division I board of directors on Wednesday at NCAA headquarters.
“The members of this commission come from a wide variety of backgrounds, but the one thing that they share in common is that they believe the college basketball enterprise is worth saving,” Rice told The AP Tuesday night. “We believe there’s a lot of work to do in that regard. That the state of the game is not very strong.”
At this point, it’s unclear which, if any, of the commission’s recommendations will be adopted in time for next season.
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Maybe I'm confused, but isn't the 1 and done rule an NBA rule? So NCAA can recommend anything they want but they're recommending someone else change THEIR rules?
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04-25-2018, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by N2663R
Wow. That does not sound good at all. Prepare for a lot of changes.
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Or not. Stay tuned.
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04-25-2018, 01:18 PM
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While I understand the reason for this, it raises some potential problems in my opinion.
It doesn't seem fair to require a school to hold the scholarship for a player (or multiple players) who wants to test the waters in the draft so they can return if not drafted
On the other hand, if you say undrafted players can go anywhere and play immediately, I can see most players who want to transfer declaring for the draft so they won't have to sit a year
Seems like it could get messy
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04-27-2018, 10:18 AM
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I wonder how the Miller family is taking the fact that almost every article written about this situation either includes a picture of Sean Miller or mentions his name OR BOTH.
The fact that the FBI uncovered this and the NCAA did not (or chose NOT TOO) is telling.
It's like the #metoo activity and finding out that all these years some noted telecasters with BIG names in the main stream media (including FOX) were doing what they were doing and .... and a lot of people around them knew and either did not or could not say something because of the powers to be ....
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04-27-2018, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by San Diego Flyer
Or not. Stay tuned.
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It all depends on how deep the tentacles of corruption reach, and how much "money talks". The changes could be sweeping...or, they could just slap another year of probation on Cleveland State (the old joke from the '80s about Tark the Shark @ UNLV).
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05-11-2018, 08:19 AM
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How did Rollo and Swampy miss this?
https://sports.yahoo.com/kansas-chee...213902318.html
The guys in the picture look like they are enjoying the view, probably the ringleaders . . .
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05-11-2018, 09:23 AM
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I will never understand why you would want to belong to a group who would treat you like that and think it's OK, or why you would want to treat someone else that way. (Though I get why a scholarship athlete would not want to lose their full ride / what they love to do)
What a bunch of a-holes for treating people like that.
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05-11-2018, 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by N2663R
How did Rollo and Swampy miss this?
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I think they are on a camping trip together, in the mountains, with a real small tent.
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05-11-2018, 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by N2663R
How did Rollo and Swampy miss this?
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swampy missed it because there's no link showing Donald Trump was involved.
I missed it because it lacked really good pictures.
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I shaved my balls for this?
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05-11-2018, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Gazoo
I will never understand why you would want to belong to a group who would treat you like that and think it's OK, or why you would want to treat someone else that way. (Though I get why a scholarship athlete would not want to lose their full ride / what they love to do)
What a bunch of a-holes for treating people like that.
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While I agree that public humiliation like this is uncalled for, hazing has and will go on. It went on when I was in school from high school all the way through college. It happens in certain professions but may not be referred to as hazing, but some other PC term. Whether it was in a social atmosphere or in sports. Yes, there are different levels. But a little icy hot to the boys is a little different than some of the things that go on.
You can have some pretty fun team building with innocent hazing, it is finding that line and not crossing it...that is the problem.
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05-11-2018, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by shocka43
While I agree that public humiliation like this is uncalled for, hazing has and will go on. It went on when I was in school from high school all the way through college. It happens in certain professions but may not be referred to as hazing, but some other PC term. Whether it was in a social atmosphere or in sports. Yes, there are different levels. But a little icy hot to the boys is a little different than some of the things that go on.
You can have some pretty fun team building with innocent hazing, it is finding that line and not crossing it...that is the problem.
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I know a guy who pledged a black fraternity. Apparently (I would not know) the hazing there can be pretty brutal. The last thing they did was something like walk across hot coals (?), and on the other side, the guy's Big held out his arms and said "you made it, you're in!" The guy (who was HUGE) smiled, walked up to him, and punched him in the nose as hard as he could. Knocked out out stone cold.
He said, "I've never quit anything in my life, so you weren't going to break me. But I'll be da**ed if I want to be friends with a bunch of a**holes who treat people like you." And he left.
Now, some Ben Gay on the jewels. . . heck I'd do that to my best friend tomorrow if the opportunity arose.
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05-11-2018, 01:51 PM
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I pledged a fraternity. They made me eat Taco Bell Fire Sauce while the rest of the guys drank pepsi around me until I finished.
Originally Posted by Gazoo
I know a guy who pledged a black fraternity. Apparently (I would not know) the hazing there can be pretty brutal. The last thing they did was something like walk across hot coals (?), and on the other side, the guy's Big held out his arms and said "you made it, you're in!" The guy (who was HUGE) smiled, walked up to him, and punched him in the nose as hard as he could. Knocked out out stone cold.
He said, "I've never quit anything in my life, so you weren't going to break me. But I'll be da**ed if I want to be friends with a bunch of a**holes who treat people like you." And he left.
Now, some Ben Gay on the jewels. . . heck I'd do that to my best friend tomorrow if the opportunity arose.
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05-11-2018, 02:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Justin
I pledged a fraternity. They made me eat Taco Bell Fire Sauce while the rest of the guys drank pepsi around me until I finished.
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As much as I love Taco Bell the Fire and even Diablo sauces are not very hot...
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05-12-2018, 09:31 AM
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The thread police are boiling over these last two posts.
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05-23-2018, 02:40 PM
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http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/ncaa...ptg?ocid=ientp
The FBI declined to comment on the investigation. The extent to which a potentially corrupt FBI agent may undercut the government’s case will be born out in the months to come. But the irony is unmistakable: might a case predicated on the seduction of easy money, of trust betrayed, and of misappropriated funds, be undone by a rogue federal operative who, himself, could not resist the same lure he was tasked with exposing?
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NCAA basketball certainly needs to be fixed, but a bigger issue is the FBI having so many problems. Basketball is only a sport, but the FBI is a base of our democracy.
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05-23-2018, 05:59 PM
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Even if it don't go to court over violations the info leaked or presented to the public will not go unnoticed in the court of public opinion.
Coaches or programs exposed through the investigation will or at least should be punished even if a technicality keeps it out of court. That is why Sean attorneys told him to deny all of it as the proof is on the FBI to prove it. Wouldn't be surprised it was that team that bribed the investigating FBI agent or team.
Either way those voice recordings will make it into the court of public opinion. Sean and the University could be in hotter water than what was discovered originally if and when all dots are connected.
Right now FBI has to throughly make sure all "T" are crossed. Even if it means exposing the rougue agent (s). The servival of the FBI is utmost important.
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07-11-2018, 08:49 AM
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07-11-2018, 11:34 AM
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And all the head coaches will continue to say, "Gee, I had no idea that this was going on."
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07-11-2018, 12:35 PM
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Football coaches, maybe, with the size of the team and the massive number of recruits. But being close to the UD program, seeing how much time a coach invests in each player and recruit. They have to know what is going on or they aren't fit to coach. (BTW, I know you were kidding)
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And all the head coaches will continue to say, "Gee, I had no idea that this was going on."
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