Games of note 2019-2020 edition

[SeasonTicketFan]

If anyone listened to Grant's comments when he was hired, he revealed some interesting perspective. He said his time at OKC in the NBA helped him adjust his philosophies and coaching. It shows a coach who was willing to adapt and learn.

The game of basketball is fluid and always changing.

[The Fly]

Originally Posted by SeasonTicketFan If anyone listened to Grant's comments when he was hired, he revealed some interesting perspective. He said his time at OKC in the NBA helped him adjust his philosophies and coaching. It shows a coach who was willing to adapt and learn. The game of basketball is fluid and always changing.

Agree with this. ALL good coaches make adjustments — philosophical and otherwise — over time. But it’s not like you flip a switch from one season to the next and suddenly you’re a different person. I’d venture to say AG is better this season over last not because he had a coaching epiphany, but because he has depth and a more talented roster. A roster, by the way, that HE put together.

[springborofan]

If it is Mea Culpa time, I'm the first to admit that I was wrong about the impact Trey Landers would have on this team. I should have learned because I discounted his impact to the team before his Sophomore year as well after not getting off the bench as a Freshman.

Trey is playing very, very well and is providing great leadership.

[SLUFLYER]

Originally Posted by ud2 Go check out kenpom.com, there has been almost a 180 degree flip in his offensive and defensive numbers at UD vs. Alabama...I do admit that I did not at all see that coming, so yes, I got that completely wrong...had he stuck with the approach he used at Alabama, I do not think we would be in the position we are in now...myself and others noted the change in his numbers in his first year, so I should have shown more patience to see if the new approach would work. Based upon first hand observation and his track record at Alabama, I absolutely hated this hire, so I was not willing to concede the possibility that he would make the major changes he needed to make in order to be successful. If you do not believe me, then that is your right. However, I would like for you to explain to me then though why his numbers have undergone such a radical shift at UD vs. Alabama. At Alabama, he was a defensive coach, at UD he has become an offensive coach. Why didn't he stick with the approach he used at Alabama? He is very clearly using a completely different approach at UD. So, yes, I give AG much credit for being willing to be flexible and open-minded and completely change his approach here at UD. Many coaches are stubborn and simply refuse to make major adjustments. 113 Alabama 6 year average adjusted offensive efficiency rating 40 Alabama 6 year average adjusted defensive efficiency rating 52 Dayton 3 year average adjusted offensive efficiency rating 137 Dayton 3 year average adjusted defensive efficiency rating

I’d be curious how this compares to other coaches or programs over an extended period.

For example, what does Travis Ford’s tenure(s) and comparables look like from EKU to UMass to OKSt to SLU? Were there drastic differences at a tenure at a school or between schools?

Or perhaps other well traveled coaches like Crean, BG, Matta, Buzz Williams, etc.

What does Duke/Coach K look like over 35 years?

And are you suggesting that defensive minded philosophy can’t/won’t win? Or sustain winning consistently?

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[pmcmullen]

Originally Posted by springborofan If it is Mea Culpa time, I'm the first to admit that I was wrong about the impact Trey Landers would have on this team. I should have learned because I discounted his impact to the team before his Sophomore year as well after not getting off the bench as a Freshman. Trey is playing very, very well and is providing great leadership.

I stood by him from the start, but that's not to pat my own back like I have all the answers on young talent. I also thought John Crosby would become our primary PG...

[ClaytonFlyerFan]

Since not much to choose from as far as basketball to watch, I just discovered the President Cup is live on the Golf Channel the next couple evenings.

USA! USA! USA!

[frisco flyer]

No. 5 Michigan upended by the Illini 62-71.
3 upsets in the top 10 already, and it’s only Wednesday.
We could be top 10 come Monday!

[Glen Clark]

A-10 scores:
Yale (9-3) 83 @ UMass (5-6) 80 (OT)

Flyer OOC opponents:
Chattanooga (6-5) 58 @ Virginia Tech (7-3) 63
Omaha (5-7) 49 @ #15 Arizona (10-1) 99

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Whether your glass is half full or half empty, you still have more to drink

[CT Flyer]

UMass loses their sixth straight game after starting 5-0. Not sure if McCall will still be there after this year.

Last night to end the game in OT UMass hit a 3 to cut the lead to 83-80 with 1.2 seconds left. They had one TO remaining and didn't use it, instead letting Yale simply inbound the ball and letting the clock run out. Is it just me or is that poor coaching?

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

[Medford]

Sooo..... its a slow night of college hoops. How slow you ask? Southern @ Wright State is probably the 3rd most intriguing game of the evening.


Iowa @ Iowa St
Northern Iowa @ Grand Canyon
Southern @ WSU
Austin Peay @ West Virginia
HOWPN (?) @ Albeline Christian.
Portland Bible @ Portland St


There's your thursday night action. Good night to address some Christmas Cards

[CT Flyer]

Originally Posted by Medford Sooo..... its a slow night of college hoops. How slow you ask? Southern @ Wright State is probably the 3rd most intriguing game of the evening. Iowa @ Iowa St Northern Iowa @ Grand Canyon Southern @ WSU Austin Peay @ West Virginia HOWPN (?) @ Albeline Christian. Portland Bible @ Portland St There's your thursday night action. Good night to address some Christmas Cards

I'm assuming the City of Roses Jam in Portland is the most intriguing???

[steve]

Originally Posted by CT Flyer UMass loses their sixth straight game after starting 5-0. Not sure if McCall will still be there after this year. Last night to end the game in OT UMass hit a 3 to cut the lead to 83-80 with 1.2 seconds left. They had one TO remaining and didn't use it, instead letting Yale simply inbound the ball and letting the clock run out. Is it just me or is that poor coaching?

Not you......

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by The Fly Agree with this. ALL good coaches make adjustments — philosophical and otherwise — over time. But it’s not like you flip a switch from one season to the next and suddenly you’re a different person. I’d venture to say AG is better this season over last not because he had a coaching epiphany, but because he has depth and a more talented roster. A roster, by the way, that HE put together.

I agree that it wasn’t as sudden as the flip of a switch. But I do believe that time and experience add to one’s perspective, so that we’re not entirely the same person now that we were 10 years ago.

When AG was hired to coach Alabama 10 years ago, he was coming off the high of building VCU into a non-P5 power, with the hope of improving results on the court at Tuscaloosa. After 6 years, the powers that be at Bama decided to try something else, and AG was forced to confront his own record. The knucklehead will blame others for his/her failures. The martyr will believe that the failure was entirely his/her own fault. But the wise person will self-evaluate, determine what he/she could have done differently, and make positive changes in the future. I believe CAG to be in that last group, and we are now reaping the benefits of his self-evaluation.
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[SLUFLYER]

I don't want to jump too far ahead, all the while getting back on the actual topic of the thread (no disrespect to the comments above re: CAG, cuz I do find them interesting), but circle 12/21 as a big opportunity day for the A10, particularly as non-con schedules start to fade and the conference settles into it's place in the heirarchy that will have little movement come January 1st.

Dayton has a neutral with Colorado (43)
SLU has a neutral with KState (78)
VCU has a true roadie with Wichita St. (36)
GW has a home game with Harvard (91)
Rhody with a home game vs Western Kentucky (88)

Those are 5 current KenPom Top 100 scalps sitting out there. It's unclear if Harvard and/or WKU could stay top 100 by March (I think WKU lost their top player for the year), but still legit opportunities. And Davidson has Loyola Chi (108) the next day.

I say we SWEEP 12/21 as conference!!!

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[ud2]

In my defense, at least I have owned that I was wrong about Grant. There have been many posters on here that were very wrong about BG or Archie or both that never owned that they were wrong. IMO, I was right about BG and Archie, so I am batting .667 since I got 2 out of the last 3 correct.

BG may turn out ok, as Grant has proven, things can change, so you never know what can happen. But, IMO, I think BG and UD both needed a fresh start at that point in time.

[Medford]

Another light night as finals week wraps up (though perhaps some colleges still have finals next week)


#24 Colorado @ Colorado St (+6)


Saturday:
#16 Mich St @ Oakland (Oakland is usually decent)
#10 Oregon @ #5 Michigan
Duquesne @ Radford
Morgan St @ LaSalle
#13 Memphis @ #19 Tennessee
North Florida @ Southern Miss
Gannon @ Bona
#22 Seton Hall @ Rutgers
St Louis @ #22 Auburn
Miss-KC @ #2 Kansas
GTech @ #8 Kentucky
Charleston @ Richmond
Georgia @ Arizona St
#6 Gonzaga @ #15 Arizona
St Mary's @ Cal


Sunday:


Texas-Rio Grande Valley @ Omaha
Gardner Webb @ VTech
Tenn St @ Fordham
#3 Ohio St @ Minnesota
Miss St @ VCU




Take care of business vs Drake and maybe move up a spot or 2 in the polls.

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	St Bonaventure SAINT BONAVENTURE Founded in 1858, St. Bonaventure University is a liberal arts college located on 500 acres in southwestern New York state. SBU offers 43 undergraduate majors, the most popular of which are elementary education, journalism, psychology, accounting, marketing, finance, and management. Total undergraduate enrollment is 2,000. Virtually all freshmen and most undergraduates live on campus. A founding member of the A10 Conference. Famous athletes include Bob Lanier. Historical nickname was the Brown Indians, but later changed to the Bonnies. Their mascot is a wolf.

	Fordham FORDHAM Fordham University is an independent Jesuit university established in 1841 as St. John's College on old Rose Hill Manor in the village of Fordham, then part of Westchester County in the Bronx, NY. The name Fordham is derived from the Anglo-Saxon words "ford" and "ham," meaning a wading place or ford by a settlement. Rose Hill is the name given to the site in 1787 by Robert Watts, a wealthy New York merchant, in honor of his family's ancestral home of the same name in Scotland. The College was originally staffed by diocesan clergy. The name was officially changed to Fordham University in 1907. Fordham's 10 schools enroll 14,448 students. There are 7,652 undergraduates, of whom 3,842 live in University-managed housing either on-campus or in the local community. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams. Athletic claim to fame is consistent mediocrity in nearly all sports and few A10 title winning programs.

	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

	LaSalle LA SALLE In 1863, La Salle University was established through the legacy of St. John Baptist de La Salle and the Christian Brothers teaching order, which De La Salle founded 300 years ago. Located in Philadelphia, La Salle is an educational community shaped by traditional Catholic and Lasallian values. La Salle's main campus is an ideal place for students to pursue an education. The 130-acre park-like setting includes 54 buildings and is located approximately six miles from Center City Philadelphia. The University can accommodate 2,114 resident students in its 12 residence halls, two apartment complexes, and 75 townhouses. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Explorers. Notable athletes include Tom Gola and Lionel Simmons.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[m21eagle45]

Originally Posted by Medford Another light night as finals week wraps up (though perhaps some colleges still have finals next week) #24 Colorado @ Colorado St (+6) Saturday: #16 Mich St @ Oakland (Oakland is usually decent) #10 Oregon @ #5 Michigan Duquesne @ Radford Morgan St @ LaSalle #13 Memphis @ #19 Tennessee North Florida @ Southern Miss Gannon @ Bona #22 Seton Hall @ Rutgers St Louis @ #22 Auburn Miss-KC @ #2 Kansas GTech @ #8 Kentucky Charleston @ Richmond Georgia @ Arizona St #6 Gonzaga @ #15 Arizona St Mary's @ Cal Sunday: Texas-Rio Grande Valley @ Omaha Gardner Webb @ VTech Tenn St @ Fordham #3 Ohio St @ Minnesota Miss St @ VCU Take care of business vs Drake and maybe move up a spot or 2 in the polls.

Just so people do not get confused, it is Missouri State at VCU, not Mississippi State.

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	St Bonaventure SAINT BONAVENTURE Founded in 1858, St. Bonaventure University is a liberal arts college located on 500 acres in southwestern New York state. SBU offers 43 undergraduate majors, the most popular of which are elementary education, journalism, psychology, accounting, marketing, finance, and management. Total undergraduate enrollment is 2,000. Virtually all freshmen and most undergraduates live on campus. A founding member of the A10 Conference. Famous athletes include Bob Lanier. Historical nickname was the Brown Indians, but later changed to the Bonnies. Their mascot is a wolf.

	Fordham FORDHAM Fordham University is an independent Jesuit university established in 1841 as St. John's College on old Rose Hill Manor in the village of Fordham, then part of Westchester County in the Bronx, NY. The name Fordham is derived from the Anglo-Saxon words "ford" and "ham," meaning a wading place or ford by a settlement. Rose Hill is the name given to the site in 1787 by Robert Watts, a wealthy New York merchant, in honor of his family's ancestral home of the same name in Scotland. The College was originally staffed by diocesan clergy. The name was officially changed to Fordham University in 1907. Fordham's 10 schools enroll 14,448 students. There are 7,652 undergraduates, of whom 3,842 live in University-managed housing either on-campus or in the local community. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams. Athletic claim to fame is consistent mediocrity in nearly all sports and few A10 title winning programs.

	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

	LaSalle LA SALLE In 1863, La Salle University was established through the legacy of St. John Baptist de La Salle and the Christian Brothers teaching order, which De La Salle founded 300 years ago. Located in Philadelphia, La Salle is an educational community shaped by traditional Catholic and Lasallian values. La Salle's main campus is an ideal place for students to pursue an education. The 130-acre park-like setting includes 54 buildings and is located approximately six miles from Center City Philadelphia. The University can accommodate 2,114 resident students in its 12 residence halls, two apartment complexes, and 75 townhouses. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Explorers. Notable athletes include Tom Gola and Lionel Simmons.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[longtimefan]

Originally Posted by ud2 In my defense, at least I have owned that I was wrong about Grant.

Huh??? You said the only reason AG is succeeding is because he has entirely changed his philosophy and approach. That doesn't sound like "I was wrong."

[Gazoo]

Originally Posted by ud2 He had a top 10 defense at Alabama twice, he has never been better than #71 in defense while at UD. Even by his 2nd year at Alabama, he already had a top 10 defense. He had another top 10 defense in year 3 at Alabama. On average, his Alabama defenses were much better than any of his UD defenses, except for this year at UD, #84 the worst of his defenses at Alabama vs. #71 at UD. His offense at Alabama was never better than #53, which was his last year at Alabama, we are #3 right now, we were #43 last year, so even in his 2nd year at UD, he already had a better offense than he ever had at Alabama. His 2nd best offense at Alabama was #88 more than twice as bad as at UD last year, every other one of his Alabama offenses was #115 or worse. IMO, those sort of big statistical swings do not happen by accident/chance, there has been a very deliberate change of philosophy IMO. I am not seeing any other explanation. Gottfried was an offensive coach at Alabama, but as soon as Grant took over, the Alabama defense made a 40 point improvement. By year 2, the Grant Alabama offense was worse than any of the Gottfried Alabama offenses, and the Grant Alabama defense was better than any of the Gottfried Alabama defenses. In Grant's final 2 years at Alabama though, I see a shift where the offense improved significantly and the defense significantly declined, the first time that had happened at Alabama during Grant's tenure, so maybe he was trying to make some overall changes and just ran out of time.

All of that is just more of the same. Some analysis you've got there.

Why did the astronauts die?
ud2: Because the rocket exploded.
OK, let's close the books on this one boys, we've got our answers.

Originally Posted by ud2 In my defense, at least I have owned that I was wrong about Grant. There have been many posters on here that were very wrong about BG or Archie or both that never owned that they were wrong.

And sometime when the subject is about them, we can have that conversation. But for now you're looking for shiny objects to distract people with.

I wonder if MAYBE our results this year and last year might have something to do with having a lottery pick wearing Dayton on the front of his jersey?

Any takers on that one? And that it has relatively little to do with a major coaching philosophy change?

[TX Flyer]

Originally Posted by Gazoo All of that is just more of the same. Some analysis you've got there. Why did the astronauts die? ud2: Because the rocket exploded. OK, let's close the books on this one boys, we've got our answers. And sometime when the subject is about them, we can have that conversation. But for now you're looking for shiny objects to distract people with. I wonder if MAYBE our results this year and last year might have something to do with having a lottery pick wearing Dayton on the front of his jersey? Any takers on that one? And that it has relatively little to do with a major coaching philosophy change?

You’re saying AG will be a .500 coach again like the first season when Obi leaves?

[The Fly]

Originally Posted by TX Flyer You’re saying AG will be a .500 coach again like the first season when Obi leaves?

Way to misinterpret what he said. He’s saying if you have the horses, you can win the race. AG recruited Obi and has helped him develop. Isn’t that part of coaching? And look at the year one roster v. year three. There’s a world of difference there. He was entitled to a year or two to get his players into the system and change the culture.

I don’t think anyone’s disputing some coaching adjustments on AG’s part. Pretty rare is the guy who stays static. But to act like AG had a complete personality/philosophical/Xs and Os makeover in year three is absurd and tries to mitigate his recruiting and cultural successes. He was building toward this season, pure and simple.

I don’t know and neither does anyone else what will happen post-Obi. All I know is we’re on an upward trajectory with AG ... and I’m hoping that bodes well for the future of the program.

[TA111]

I have said this to some of my coaching buddies, and they generally agree-being successful is 85% recruiting and 15% X’s and O’s. People don’t become coaching geniuses overnight, nor do they become coaching idiots. The difference is generally the talent they have at their disposal. I said prior to the first game that we have assembled the most talent on a Flyers team in my 40+ years of following them. IMO, this coaching staff will continue to be successful due to their ability to recruit on a high level.

[frisco flyer]

Watching the Colorado Colorado St. game....

Colorado leading 27-12 at the half!

Jon Rothstein in discussing parity in college basketball this season said that ‘this is the kind of Season where we could have Duke, Gonzaga, San Diego State and Dayton in the Final Four’...I agree

[ClaytonFlyerFan]

Did not see the first half of the Colorado game, but based on the 12 minutes of the second half I have seen, plus looking at the box score from first half, my early prediction will be Flyers by 20. Sloppy, little offensive movement away from the ball, lots of turnovers, etc......Nothing at all impresses me with the Buffaloes. 2 point game with 8 to go

[TA111]

Yes, If we play an average game we win by double digits against Colorado. Not a very impressive team.

[TA111]

I’ve seen Wright play a couple of times this year and I’ll say we got the better deal with Crutcher.

[CoffeeCan]

Wright is 1-11 from the field, 2 pts. One minute to go.

[frisco flyer]

Wright is having an off night but regardless, Tyler Bey is the best player on this Colorado team.

[TA111]

Originally Posted by frisco flyer Wright is having an off night but regardless, Tyler Bey is the best player on this Colorado team.

Agreed that Bey seems to be the best player they have, but boy they are offensively challenged.

[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by ud2 ...I think BG and UD both needed a fresh start at that point in time.

No disagreement here. I loved BG’s dedication to the University, his honesty, his character, and his integrity. Conversely, his rigid adherence to his approach to the game frustrated me to no end. I truly hope he succeeds in life, and in his career. But it was obvious by the end of Year 8 that something had to change.
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[Gazoo]

Originally Posted by TX Flyer You’re saying AG will be a .500 coach again like the first season when Obi leaves?

As The Fly said, not at all what I'm saying. I'm saying it's extremely difficult to distinguish the coaching from the horses, so if someone is going to say AG is suddenly a totally different coach than he used to be, they're going to have to explain EXACTLY how he's different, not just point to offensive and defensive stats which include a different schedule, different players, a team leader who is mentally stable vs. one who just broke up with his pregnant girlfriend, etc.

It's impossible to know if Jim O'Brien would have taken the depleted 6-man UD team to the sweet 16 because we'll just never know. (Yeah, I know. We know.) And we'll never know if Archie would have pi$$ed away all the talent on this current team.

What I know is, AG seems to be doing an OK job of coaching. He's doing a GREAT job of recruiting.

[Glen Clark]

A-10 scores:
No Games Scheduled

Flyer OOC opponents:
#24 Colorado (8-2) 56 @ Colorado State (7-6) 48

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Whether your glass is half full or half empty, you still have more to drink

[frisco flyer]

Michigan-Oregon going to OT.

[cj]

St. Louis is playing Auburn today.
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[udx2]

Would love to see SLU knock off no. 12 Auburn but, man, is SLU bad at FTs.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[frisco flyer]

SLU is keeping it interesting. Trailing by 3 with 8:40 to go

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[frisco flyer]

Originally Posted by frisco flyer SLU is keeping it interesting. Trailing by 3 with 8:40 to go

Shoulda kept my mouth shut...down 14 with 4:37 to go

[Jeff]

Originally Posted by udx2 Would love to see SLU knock off no. 12 Auburn but, man, is SLU bad at FTs.

Beyond brutal

[frisco flyer]

Xavier goes down to Wake in the Skip Prosser Classic 80-78

	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

[SLUFLYER]

Originally Posted by frisco flyer Xavier goes down to Wake in the Skip Prosser Classic 80-78

That’s a shame

[ud69]

St Marys doing at Cal what we did to St Marys - 45-29 at the half. Gaels lighting it up from 3.

[Glen Clark]

A-10 scores:
Drake (8-3) 47 @ #14 Dayton (8-1) 78
Charleston (5-5) 71 @ Richmond (9-1) 78
Duquesne (9-0) 71 @ Radford (3-6) 49
➔ Firestone HS, Akron, OH
Saint Louis (8-2) 61 @ #12 Auburn (9-0) 67
➔ Mike Slive Invitational, Birmingham, AL
Morgan State (4-8) 68 @ La Salle (6-3) 85
Gannon 50 @ St Bonaventure (5-4) 75

Flyer OOC opponents:
Missouri Kansas City (5-7) 57 @ #2 Kansas (9-1) 98
Georgia (6-3) 59 @ Arizona State (8-2) 79
Saint Mary's (10-2) 89 @ California (6-5) 77
North Florida (7-5) 72 @ Southern Mississippi (3-8) 69
Houston Baptist (0-8) 84 @ Rice (7-4) 96
Rust 54 @ Grambling (5-5) 82

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	St Bonaventure SAINT BONAVENTURE Founded in 1858, St. Bonaventure University is a liberal arts college located on 500 acres in southwestern New York state. SBU offers 43 undergraduate majors, the most popular of which are elementary education, journalism, psychology, accounting, marketing, finance, and management. Total undergraduate enrollment is 2,000. Virtually all freshmen and most undergraduates live on campus. A founding member of the A10 Conference. Famous athletes include Bob Lanier. Historical nickname was the Brown Indians, but later changed to the Bonnies. Their mascot is a wolf.

[jack72]

For those like me wondering, Rust is an all black college of 700 in MIssissippi
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[foolishpride]

Originally Posted by jack72 For those like me wondering, Rust is an all black college of 700 in MIssissippi Posted via Mobile Device

"Rust Never Sleeps". Maybe that's why they lost!

[CE80]

Originally Posted by foolishpride "Rust Never Sleeps". Maybe that's why they lost!

I think there is more to the picture than meets the eye.

[Glen Clark]

What about the Radford-Duquesne game at a high school in Akron?
Dambrot connection?
Listed attendance: 812.

__________________________
That don't make no sense!
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	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

[OSU Flyer]

St. Louis with a good showing, they might be a factor in the top 4 of the A10

[SLUFLYER]

Originally Posted by OSU Flyer St. Louis with a good showing, they might be a factor in the top 4 of the A10

SLU will absolutely be a factor in the Top 4. They should finish anywhere from 3rd to 6th.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[ClaytonFlyerFan]

The Ohio State down by 16 points with 13 minutes to go in the game at Minnesota.

Interesting statistic. So far this year in the Big 10 the home team is 12-0. Two victories so far for conference opponents over top 5 teams, and looks like this could be #3. Life in conference play on the road is rough.

[jack72]

Another undefeated being threatened. MN beating OSU by 16 with 13 to go.
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[tirebiter]

OSU loses to Minnesota - and North Carolina loses to Wofford.

What a season so far!

[Glen Clark]

A-10 scores:
Missouri State (6-6) 51 @ VCU (8-2) 61
Tennessee State (7-4) 66 @ Fordham (5-5) 61

Flyer OOC opponents:
Garner-Webb (3-8) 46 @ Virginia Tech (8-3) 73
Texas Rio Grande (4-7) 82 @ Omaha (6-7) 92


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[66flyer]

Hard to believe the number of ranked teams that have lost this week.
Interesting to see where UD will be next.

[OSU Flyer]

Fordham losing a buy game at home. The lone constant of the A10 in the 21st century
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	Fordham FORDHAM Fordham University is an independent Jesuit university established in 1841 as St. John's College on old Rose Hill Manor in the village of Fordham, then part of Westchester County in the Bronx, NY. The name Fordham is derived from the Anglo-Saxon words "ford" and "ham," meaning a wading place or ford by a settlement. Rose Hill is the name given to the site in 1787 by Robert Watts, a wealthy New York merchant, in honor of his family's ancestral home of the same name in Scotland. The College was originally staffed by diocesan clergy. The name was officially changed to Fordham University in 1907. Fordham's 10 schools enroll 14,448 students. There are 7,652 undergraduates, of whom 3,842 live in University-managed housing either on-campus or in the local community. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams. Athletic claim to fame is consistent mediocrity in nearly all sports and few A10 title winning programs.

[Go-UD-Go]

Originally Posted by OSU Flyer Fordham losing a buy game at home. The lone constant of the A10 in the 21st century Posted via Mobile Device

I've been reading their board: Fordham. It is very sad and dejected place. They shut down their old board because of ill will between posters. Pity stays my hand from the usual kick them out of the A10 Talk. They need our prayers.

	Fordham FORDHAM Fordham University is an independent Jesuit university established in 1841 as St. John's College on old Rose Hill Manor in the village of Fordham, then part of Westchester County in the Bronx, NY. The name Fordham is derived from the Anglo-Saxon words "ford" and "ham," meaning a wading place or ford by a settlement. Rose Hill is the name given to the site in 1787 by Robert Watts, a wealthy New York merchant, in honor of his family's ancestral home of the same name in Scotland. The College was originally staffed by diocesan clergy. The name was officially changed to Fordham University in 1907. Fordham's 10 schools enroll 14,448 students. There are 7,652 undergraduates, of whom 3,842 live in University-managed housing either on-campus or in the local community. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams. Athletic claim to fame is consistent mediocrity in nearly all sports and few A10 title winning programs.

[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by Go-UD-Go I've been reading their board: Fordham. It is very sad and dejected place. They shut down their old board because of ill will between posters. Pity stays my hand from the usual kick them out of the A10 Talk. They need our prayers.

You’re a good man, Go-UD-Go.
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[podcast411]

Originally Posted by Go-UD-Go I've been reading their board: Fordham. It is very sad and dejected place. They shut down their old board because of ill will between posters. Pity stays my hand from the usual kick them out of the A10 Talk. They need our prayers.

Ok - I pray they find a new home outside of the A-10 - does that count for a prayer?

[OSU Flyer]

Originally Posted by Go-UD-Go I've been reading their board: Fordham. It is very sad and dejected place. They shut down their old board because of ill will between posters. Pity stays my hand from the usual kick them out of the A10 Talk. They need our prayers.

They have a board? That’s most surprising thing I’ve heard in a while
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[ClaytonFlyerFan]

Originally Posted by OSU Flyer They have a board? That’s most surprising thing I’ve heard in a while Posted via Mobile Device

Agree. I assumed both fans who attend games could just text back and forth.

[Glen Clark]

A-10 scores:
No Games Scheduled

Flyer OOC opponents:
Charleston Southern (4-6) 60 @ James Madison (6-4) 81


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[Glen Clark]

A-10 scores:
North Texas (4-7) 58 @ #13 Dayton (9-1) 71
Maryville 69 @ Saint Louis (9-2) 82

Flyer OOC opponents:
North Florida (7-6) 81 @ #19 Florida State (9-2) 98
Grambling (6-6) 72 @ Marquette (8-2) 93
Omaha (6-8) 56 @ Eastern Washington (7-3) 97
Mount Marty 74 @ Drake (9-3) 92


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[udisit19]

Wednesday Night at 11:00 PM

6 Kentucky vs. Utah in Las Vegas - Utah ranked 54th in NET, Kentucky ranked 66th in NET Big game for both of these teams. Kentucky plays Ohio State less than 3 days after this. Any chance they get caught looking ahead?

[CT Flyer]

Originally Posted by udisit19 Wednesday Night at 11:00 PM 6 Kentucky vs. Utah in Las Vegas - Utah ranked 54th in NET, Kentucky ranked 66th in NET Big game for both of these teams. Kentucky plays Ohio State less than 3 days after this. Any chance they get caught looking ahead?

Or any chance that Utah is actually better than Kentucky?

[CE80]

Originally Posted by CT Flyer Or any chance that Utah is actually better than Kentucky?

It will be interesting. UK 11 pt favorite.

[SLUFLYER]

Great night in the A10!! 4-0

Conversely, rough start tonight in the SEC - 0-3 so far with losses to UC, ETSU and Loyola-CHI with Miss St currently losing in 2nd half to Radford. A Utah upset of Kentucky would be a salty dagger.

[SLUFLYER]

St. Mary’s is absolutely TORCHING Arizona State in the first half

[Swampy Meadows]

Jeff Goodman
‏@GoodmanHoops

Saint Mary’s star guard Jordan Ford has 19 points with 11 minutes left in the first half.

Jordan Ford: 19
Arizona State: 7

[ud69]

51-19 St Marys over ASU at the half. Our win over the Gaels will keep on giving all year long.

[312to937]

Originally Posted by SLUFLYER Great night in the A10!! 4-0 Conversely, rough start tonight in the SEC - 0-3 so far with losses to UC, ETSU and Loyola-CHI with Miss St currently losing in 2nd half to Radford. A Utah upset of Kentucky would be a salty dagger.

"Great night in A10!!" might be a little exaggerated. The four wins were against:

2-7 Wagner (LaSalle)
3-9 Old Dominion (Richmond)
2-7 Niagara (Bonnies)
5-6 Charleston (VCU)

Now, your post about St Mary's pummeling ASU is good news for the Flyers. Would be nice to see St Mary's get back in top 25 and move up in the NET.

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	St Bonaventure SAINT BONAVENTURE Founded in 1858, St. Bonaventure University is a liberal arts college located on 500 acres in southwestern New York state. SBU offers 43 undergraduate majors, the most popular of which are elementary education, journalism, psychology, accounting, marketing, finance, and management. Total undergraduate enrollment is 2,000. Virtually all freshmen and most undergraduates live on campus. A founding member of the A10 Conference. Famous athletes include Bob Lanier. Historical nickname was the Brown Indians, but later changed to the Bonnies. Their mascot is a wolf.

	LaSalle LA SALLE In 1863, La Salle University was established through the legacy of St. John Baptist de La Salle and the Christian Brothers teaching order, which De La Salle founded 300 years ago. Located in Philadelphia, La Salle is an educational community shaped by traditional Catholic and Lasallian values. La Salle's main campus is an ideal place for students to pursue an education. The 130-acre park-like setting includes 54 buildings and is located approximately six miles from Center City Philadelphia. The University can accommodate 2,114 resident students in its 12 residence halls, two apartment complexes, and 75 townhouses. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Explorers. Notable athletes include Tom Gola and Lionel Simmons.

[springborofan]

Originally Posted by 312to937 "Great night in A10!!" might be a little exaggerated. The four wins were against: 2-7 Wagner (LaSalle) 3-9 Old Dominion (Richmond) 2-7 Niagara (Bonnies) 5-6 Charleston (VCU) Now, your post about St Mary's pummeling ASU is good news for the Flyers. Would be nice to see St Mary's get back in top 25 and move up in the NET.

Last year the A10 would have split those four games...

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	St Bonaventure SAINT BONAVENTURE Founded in 1858, St. Bonaventure University is a liberal arts college located on 500 acres in southwestern New York state. SBU offers 43 undergraduate majors, the most popular of which are elementary education, journalism, psychology, accounting, marketing, finance, and management. Total undergraduate enrollment is 2,000. Virtually all freshmen and most undergraduates live on campus. A founding member of the A10 Conference. Famous athletes include Bob Lanier. Historical nickname was the Brown Indians, but later changed to the Bonnies. Their mascot is a wolf.

	LaSalle LA SALLE In 1863, La Salle University was established through the legacy of St. John Baptist de La Salle and the Christian Brothers teaching order, which De La Salle founded 300 years ago. Located in Philadelphia, La Salle is an educational community shaped by traditional Catholic and Lasallian values. La Salle's main campus is an ideal place for students to pursue an education. The 130-acre park-like setting includes 54 buildings and is located approximately six miles from Center City Philadelphia. The University can accommodate 2,114 resident students in its 12 residence halls, two apartment complexes, and 75 townhouses. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Explorers. Notable athletes include Tom Gola and Lionel Simmons.

[SLUFLYER]

Originally Posted by 312to937 "Great night in A10!!" might be a little exaggerated. The four wins were against: 2-7 Wagner (LaSalle) 3-9 Old Dominion (Richmond) 2-7 Niagara (Bonnies) 5-6 Charleston (VCU) Now, your post about St Mary's pummeling ASU is good news for the Flyers. Would be nice to see St Mary's get back in top 25 and move up in the NET.

Counter points to add some perspective:

1. Any night where both LaSalle and St. Bonny both win is strong
2. ODU has played a tough/decent a schedule and should be relevant (above.500) in C-USA
3. Richmond’s win is a true Road win in a rivalry game
4. Charleston has also played a tough/decent schedule and is a legit contender to win the Colonial
5. VCU’s win is also a true road win

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	St Bonaventure SAINT BONAVENTURE Founded in 1858, St. Bonaventure University is a liberal arts college located on 500 acres in southwestern New York state. SBU offers 43 undergraduate majors, the most popular of which are elementary education, journalism, psychology, accounting, marketing, finance, and management. Total undergraduate enrollment is 2,000. Virtually all freshmen and most undergraduates live on campus. A founding member of the A10 Conference. Famous athletes include Bob Lanier. Historical nickname was the Brown Indians, but later changed to the Bonnies. Their mascot is a wolf.

	LaSalle LA SALLE In 1863, La Salle University was established through the legacy of St. John Baptist de La Salle and the Christian Brothers teaching order, which De La Salle founded 300 years ago. Located in Philadelphia, La Salle is an educational community shaped by traditional Catholic and Lasallian values. La Salle's main campus is an ideal place for students to pursue an education. The 130-acre park-like setting includes 54 buildings and is located approximately six miles from Center City Philadelphia. The University can accommodate 2,114 resident students in its 12 residence halls, two apartment complexes, and 75 townhouses. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Explorers. Notable athletes include Tom Gola and Lionel Simmons.

[ClaytonFlyerFan]

As Gonzage clobbering NC by 21, Jay Bilas loving on Dayton again and talking about Obi and our two glue guys Landers and Mikesell. Says we could be the Butler of 2010. Love the way Bilas loves our Flyers

[Chris R]

SMC big over ASU. Not often a guy scores 43pts in a 40pt loss. Or the last time a player scored 77% of his teams overall points? Perhaps hasnt happened this century?

Where's Figgie when you need him.

[Glen Clark]

A-10 scores:
VCU (9-2) 76 @ Charleston (5-6) 71
Richmond (10-1) 62 @ Old Dominion (3-9) 59
Wagner (2-7) 60 @ La Salle (7-3) 74
Niagara (2-7) 70 @ St Bonaventure (7-4) 87

Flyer OOC opponents:
Saint Mary's (11-2) 96 @ Arizona state (8-3) 56
Tennessee State (7-5) 72 @ Indiana State (6-4) 78
Houston Baptist (0-9) 68 @ Stephen F Austin (9-2) 96


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Whether your glass is half full or half empty, you still have more to drink

	St Bonaventure SAINT BONAVENTURE Founded in 1858, St. Bonaventure University is a liberal arts college located on 500 acres in southwestern New York state. SBU offers 43 undergraduate majors, the most popular of which are elementary education, journalism, psychology, accounting, marketing, finance, and management. Total undergraduate enrollment is 2,000. Virtually all freshmen and most undergraduates live on campus. A founding member of the A10 Conference. Famous athletes include Bob Lanier. Historical nickname was the Brown Indians, but later changed to the Bonnies. Their mascot is a wolf.

[Lifelong Flyer Fan]

Originally Posted by ClaytonFlyerFan As Gonzage clobbering NC by 21, Jay Bilas loving on Dayton again and talking about Obi and our two glue guys Landers and Mikesell. Says we could be the Butler of 2010. Love the way Bilas loves our Flyers

I love it too, but he also said 2010 was the last time North Carolina won the NIT!

[Glen Clark]

That's only 26 more than Duke lost by.

Originally Posted by Glen Clark Houston Baptist (0-9) 68 @ Stephen F Austin (9-2) 96

Will the Huskies win a game this season?
Expiring minds want to know . . .

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[ud2]

UC Bearcats lost a home game by 1 a few days ago to Kenpom #133 Colgate, were a 12.5 point favorite...then they beat Kenpom #28 Tennessee tonight at home by 12

[TommyGola]

Originally Posted by ClaytonFlyerFan As Gonzage clobbering NC by 21, Jay Bilas loving on Dayton again and talking about Obi and our two glue guys Landers and Mikesell. Says we could be the Butler of 2010. Love the way Bilas loves our Flyers

North Carolina has zero outside shooters. We are graced with four or five who can shoot the three-ball. Frankly, NC looks like an NIT team to me.

[sheg]

With Cole Anthony sidelined they're hurting.

[frisco flyer]

The Utes take down the no. 6 Wildcats 69-66.

But man, Bill Walton is a terrible terrible announcer. He makes you wish you were deaf. I can’t understand why ESPN keeps this guy on the air.

[Radar]

Originally Posted by frisco flyer But man, Bill Walton is a terrible terrible announcer. He makes you wish you were deaf. I can’t understand why ESPN keeps this guy on the air.

People watch/listen because they're waiting for that "FCC moment" that gets him booted off the air for good!

[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by TommyGola North Carolina has zero outside shooters. We are graced with four or five who can shoot the three-ball. Frankly, NC looks like an NIT team to me.

They may finish with their first losing record in 18 years, at the rate they’re going. They haven’t finished a season below .500 since Matt Doherty was the coach in 2001-02.
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[CT Flyer]

Originally Posted by CT Flyer Or any chance that Utah is actually better than Kentucky?

Toot toot...looked like it to me.

[ud2]

Originally Posted by T-Bone 84 They may finish with their first losing record in 18 years, at the rate they’re going. They haven’t finished a season below .500 since Matt Doherty was the coach in 2001-02. Posted via Mobile Device

Clemson might finally break their 60? year losing streak in Chapel Hill...insane losing streak

[ud2]

Check that...nope...NC still projected to beat Clemson by 10 per Kenpom on Sat Jan 11 in Chapel Hill

[Flyerferd]

Now we root for Ohio State to polish off Kentucky and rapidly and unceremoniously remove them from the AP top 10.
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[udisit19]

Current resume comparison:
UD - 0 Q1 wins + 1 Q1 loss , 3 Q2 wins, 3 Q3 wins, 3 Q4 wins
Best wins - Saint Marys, VA Tech, and Georgia on neutral courts

UK - 1 Q1 win, 0 Q2 wins + 1 Q2 loss, 1 Q3 win, 6 Q4 wins + 1 Q4 loss
(disclaimer Kentucky's win over Mich St. is currently the worst Q1 home win possible since Michigan St. is ranked 30th in the NET )
Best Wins - Mich St. and Georgia Tech at home

I'm hoping UK losses their next 4. vs. Ohio St., home against Louisville, home against Missouri, @ Georgia

[SoTier Flyer]

Originally Posted by Lifelong Flyer Fan I love it too, but he also said 2010 was the last time North Carolina won the NIT!

He said 2010 was the last time UNC was in the NIT (which is correct).

[Buster]

Two days before Christmas....

https://www.ncaa.com/news/basketball...ames-left-2020
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[Lifelong Flyer Fan]

Originally Posted by SoTier Flyer He said 2010 was the last time UNC was in the NIT (which is correct).

I replayed it a couple of times last night and it sounded like 'won" to me. (guess my hearing is as suspect as my vision.)

[podcast411]

Originally Posted by udisit19 Current resume comparison: UD - 0 Q1 wins + 1 Q1 loss , 3 Q2 wins, 3 Q3 wins, 3 Q4 wins Best wins - Saint Marys, VA Tech, and Georgia on neutral courts UK - 1 Q1 win, 0 Q2 wins + 1 Q2 loss, 1 Q3 win, 6 Q4 wins + 1 Q4 loss (disclaimer Kentucky's win over Mich St. is currently the worst Q1 home win possible since Michigan St. is ranked 30th in the NET ) Best Wins - Mich St. and Georgia Tech at home I'm hoping UK losses their next 4. vs. Ohio St., home against Louisville, home against Missouri, @ Georgia

St. Marys blow out win last night moves them to a Q1 win.

More Current resume:
UD - 1 Q1 wins + 1 Q1 loss , 2 Q2 wins, 3 Q3 wins, 3 Q4 wins
Best wins - Saint Marys and then VA Tech and Georgia on neutral courts

[SLUFLYER]

As we get into conference season and Dayton’s resume starts to evolve, it may serve best as a new/separate thread, perhaps under the Bracketology thread, but to provide some historical perspective, I seem to recall teams that were fighting for #1 and #2 seeds last year having Q1 win totals around 10 or 11.

[The Fly]

Originally Posted by SLUFLYER As we get into conference season and Dayton’s resume starts to evolve, it may serve best as a new/separate thread, perhaps under the Bracketology thread, but to provide some historical perspective, I seem to recall teams that were fighting for #1 and #2 seeds last year having Q1 win totals around 10 or 11.

Only seven teams had double-digit quad one wins (10-12) last year, and all but one — Marquette — were in P5 conferences. In other words, they had the opportunity to do what most others can’t because of scheduling.

[66flyer]

If you want to scout Colorado, tonight's game vs Prairie View is on PACN at 8:30.
There is an article at buffzone .com titled, "Prairie View A&M to test CU basketball shortcomings"(mainly TOs). I don't want them to play us after losing to a team like PV.

[Medford]

I don't have Dayton's schedule in front of me, but based upon the recent NET rankings release has a chance at maybe 10-12 Quad 1 wins (including the A10 tournament) but that would require teams like Duquesne staying in the top 30 and St Mary's climbing into the top 50 and a lot of other A-10 teams that are in the upper 60s/low 70s staying there to remain Quad 1 road wins.


In short, if you want to dream a little dream that UD can get a 1 seed, I think its possible, but it would require UD to win all but maybe a game or 2 the rest of the way. Perhaps drop one @ VCU and 1 in the A10 tournament. Problem is, there are a number of teams off to good/great starts and life on the road is always tough. I'd expect UD (or any team) to get tripped up by a landmine or 2 along the way.


Its all fun for Fans, but for the team to really think about it, they'd need to get thru the VCU home game unscathed (save Kansas of course) then see if they can sweep thru possibly the hardest 4 game stretch of the season @ St Louis, Bona at home, @ Duquesne and @ Richmond. (who would have thought that at the start of the year). Get thru that and start talking about a 1 seed. Until then beat Colorado.

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	St Bonaventure SAINT BONAVENTURE Founded in 1858, St. Bonaventure University is a liberal arts college located on 500 acres in southwestern New York state. SBU offers 43 undergraduate majors, the most popular of which are elementary education, journalism, psychology, accounting, marketing, finance, and management. Total undergraduate enrollment is 2,000. Virtually all freshmen and most undergraduates live on campus. A founding member of the A10 Conference. Famous athletes include Bob Lanier. Historical nickname was the Brown Indians, but later changed to the Bonnies. Their mascot is a wolf.

	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[NCkevi]

Originally Posted by 66flyer If you want to scout Colorado, tonight's game vs Prairie View is on PACN at 8:30. There is an article at buffzone .com titled, "Prairie View A&M to test CU basketball shortcomings"(mainly TOs). I don't want them to play us after losing to a team like PV.

I was kind of surprised to see Colorado schedule this game 2 days before a major road trip game

[Bill202]

Originally Posted by NCkevi I was kind of surprised to see Colorado schedule this game 2 days before a major road trip game

Probably didn't want to, but the advantage of a nationally televised game was too good to give up.

[John C.]

How is Maryland number 7? Down 47-20 to Seton Hall with 2 to go. Shooting 25%. Very ugly game.

[312to937]

Originally Posted by 312to937 #4 Maryland also loses tonight. Flyers take care of business the next three games and they may get a Top Ten ranking for Christmas. Wild. Posted via Mobile Device

. . . ITS BEGINNING TO LOOK A LOT LIKE CHRISTMAS . . .

Maryland loses for a second time and will fall out of top ten. UK lost last night and will likely drop out as well. Flyers take care of business in Chicago Saturday night and I think we have that TOP TEN ranking under the tree for Christmas (at least in Coaches poll).

[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by ud2 Clemson might finally break their 60? year losing streak in Chapel Hill...insane losing streak

So, when Clemson visits The Dean Dome, do the students chant “We Like Ike!”?
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