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Where was X tonight???

Well, does anyone know where X was tonight? Was he still sick? I have a feeling he might be joining Pierce in Anthony's dog house...might not see X next year.
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No kostas or XW. But 21 minutes of svoboda?
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Guessing that's because Svoboda, for whatever his shortcomings, is probably busting his butt in practice.
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Don't know, but I really hope Grant & company have some leads on some JUCO bigs. We're going to need them next year.
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Don't know, but I really hope Grant & company have some leads on some JUCO bigs. We're going to need them next year.
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Well, I got chastised on this site about six years ago when I called the departure of Staten. So here is my call tonight - we may have four scholarships available for next year - Pierce, X, DD (for Cohill), and Crosby. I think Anthony might be doing a little house-cleaning after the A-10 tournament.
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Originally Posted by TommyGola View Post
Well, I got chastised on this site about six years ago when I called the departure of Staten. So here is my call tonight - we may have four scholarships available for next year - Pierce, X, DD (for Cohill), and Crosby. I think Anthony might be doing a little house-cleaning after the A-10 tournament.
I call 5. Kostas leaves too. And if he does, I hope he gets offer and signs with Indiana.
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I hate it if true, but if that's what it takes, then so be it. Hard to believe two of those guys will be seniors next year. I just expected more. Maybe XW really is hurting so bad he can't play. Some say otherwise, but I just don't know anymore.
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No way you can replace 5 guys without going JUCO route for one or two. I don't know, I guess we can speculate all we want, but we won't really know until after the season is over.
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No way you can replace 5 guys without going JUCO route for one or two. I don't know, I guess we can speculate all we want, but we won't really know until after the season is over.
Well, he's already got two(I realize Toppin's already accounted for but his availability isn't). So two to three freshman and a transfer would give us enough roster, especially when considering he's trying to go with 6 right now.
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Would prefer grad transfers to JUCO.
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No way you can replace 5 guys without going JUCO route for one or two. I don't know, I guess we can speculate all we want, but we won't really know until after the season is over.
A fifth year may help. But I agree, bringing in some experience would be a big help. Going to be a really interesting off season, not as interesting as last year, but change is in the wind.

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Maybe Xs throat was sore again. Or he had a hangnail.

Or maybe his back really is bothering him. Who knows.
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I'm sympathetic if he's got guys that aren't board with his agenda. If this is the case then show them the door after the season. It's better to have a few scholarships open (strong argument between transfers, grad transfers, JUCOs and high schoolers he could fill some of holes from the guys gone) than keeping on guys that aren't buying in

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I call 5. Kostas leaves too. And if he does, I hope he gets offer and signs with Indiana.
I'll add #6 - Cunningham via Grad Transfer.
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I'll add #6 - Cunningham via Grad Transfer.
I keep hearing this. Is there any meat behind it? I mean any quotes from people associated with Josh that he's considering it? After the season he's had and the roll he has, I think it would quite a gamble for him to go elsewhere. If Toppin can provide more help on the inside than he's gotten this season, it could mean an even more incredible season for him next year.

I am predicting he stays.
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I have no idea, but I have to imagine if there is a better surrounding cast, that Cunningham will stick around. It's not easy leaving to go to another school, where you are one and done. Most good schools already have an established front court. Of course, you could be Jaaron Simmons who is riding the pine at UM.
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Before the season started, Kostas was going to work out with his brother and NBA teams, while Matej Svoboda, Jordan Davis, and Jordan Pierce were all going to get out of their LOI releases and go elsewhere. Nobody saw Crosby returning to UD either.

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I am all about freeing up scholarships for next year but I cannot believe that X is totally a lost cause. He has the skills and athleticism to be contributing to this team. He should be the 6th man at least. I would think Trey and Josh could put their arm around him off the court and shake him up and get him going. He is blowing it if it is really an attitude issue.

And Kostas has huge potential if they can work with his offseason strengthening. Svoboda, Crosby and Pierce I am hoping do not come back. I am anticipating adding Cohill and subtracting Darrell will be a positive.

Worried about a slew of JC transfers as an immediate move. Would prefer landing fresh 4 stars and building that way. While I am very concerned about Grant as an in game tactician, I do believe he will be able to recruit more Cohill caliber talent and am hanging my hat there for now.
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I call 5. Kostas leaves too. And if he does, I hope he gets offer and signs with Indiana.
Based upon this board previous expectations for Kostas ie one and done.
Is that the Indiana Pacers???


On a side note Svoboda even though he is not scoring like we hoped he does seem to be providing help to the team. His defense, especially in the first half against Tillman was good. He worked hard to front him and deprive him of the ball. It was obviously Grant's plan to keep Tillman from touching the ball because he knew he had no one who could stop him once he got the ball. My take for part of Svoboda's problems this year is that he still probably translates everything he hears in to Czech before he can respond, This would likely keep him a half a second slower than the next man. But he does have good instincts and appears to play within the plan that Grant has devised.
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On a side note Svoboda even though he is not scoring like we hoped he does seem to be providing help to the team. His defense, especially in the first half against Tillman was good. He worked hard to front him and deprive him of the ball. It was obviously Grant's plan to keep Tillman from touching the ball because he knew he had no one who could stop him once he got the ball. My take for part of Svoboda's problems this year is that he still probably translates everything he hears in to Czech before he can respond, This would likely keep him a half a second slower than the next man. But he does have good instincts and appears to play within the plan that Grant has devised.
I agree 100%. While Tillman did score some on Scoboda, he did the best of the 3 that guarded Tillman from keeping him from getting the ball. A majority of Tillman's points came when Trey or Cunningham were guarding him.

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Well, I got chastised on this site about six years ago when I called the departure of Staten. So here is my call tonight - we may have four scholarships available for next year - Pierce, X, DD (for Cohill), and Crosby. I think Anthony might be doing a little house-cleaning after the A-10 tournament.
100% after departures. Isn't it actually 5? Sam's scholarship?
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My feeling at this point is if you’re not buying in to AG, it should probably be a scholarship freed up/not renewed. Its not fair to:
1) the current team members that are buying in
2) the university providing the free ride with the expectation of effort
3) coach Grant

So if some players feel the grass is greener elsewhere- those players shouldn’t have a problem with a mutual agreement (AKA- its in our best interest if you move on and we’ll help you leave to the greener grass).

Just for the record, I really like Svoboda and always have and hope he’s here next year.
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100% after departures. Isn't it actually 5? Sam's scholarship?
TG has it correct. Cohill fills DD's, Miller's is open, add X, Pierce and Crosby and that gives AG four. I believe X and Pierce are closer to leaving than John.
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Hopefully Kostas doesn't get discouraged and transfer. I think AG should be playing him, he's totally raw and racks up fouls but he isn't going to learn sitting.
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Believe AG's system of earning playing time is a good one. Matej is playing because he busts his butt. Kostas is finishing up his second year in the program and has progressed little. Team practices almost daily and the place for improvement is there. Playing time is earned there. Kostas simply isn't progressing. All this talk about potential is fine, but it is remaining just that, talk. If he stays next year fine, if he decides to take his potential somewhere else fine. There is an attitude problem with two of the players, it may be spreading to three.

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Basketball is really important but it is not the only consideration.

Crosby is a senior. UD is his school. I don't know where he is in terms of academics and graduating. Would he want to finish somewhere else?

Same with X.

Kostas has shown some flashes of promise but he has also shown some real immaturity on the court. Who knows what he does at practice?

Transfer rule changes could affect things. As the rule stands now, all would have to sit out a year. Crosby and X would have 1 year of eligibility left. Kostas would also have to sit but would he have 2 or 3 years of eligibility left? Rule change to not having to sit out a year would be big for Kostas.
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Basketball is really important but it is not the only consideration.

Crosby is a senior. UD is his school. I don't know where he is in terms of academics and graduating. Would he want to finish somewhere else?

Same with X.

Kostas has shown some flashes of promise but he has also shown some real immaturity on the court. Who knows what he does at practice?

Transfer rule changes could affect things. As the rule stands now, all would have to sit out a year. Crosby and X would have 1 year of eligibility left. Kostas would also have to sit but would he have 2 or 3 years of eligibility left? Rule change to not having to sit out a year would be big for Kostas.
Kostas would only have 2 years left if he transfers. You get 4 years of eligibility to be used in 5 years.
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If someone wanted to play big minutes dropping down to D2 is possible too
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Kostas would only have 2 years left if he transfers. You get 4 years of eligibility to be used in 5 years.
That's why the transfer rule change would really be huge to him. He would have 3 years then. Of course he is going to the NBA before that anyway.
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We can debate the chicken or the egg on Kostas or X, but for Coach Grant either you practice hard and play hard, and play structured, or you do not play. Kostas, Crosby and X are on a different page than Grant wants the team on, and until they find their way, they will sit.
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Guessing that's because Svoboda, for whatever his shortcomings, is probably busting his butt in practice.
Hence, he deserved he minutes as he wants to play. I have no problem whatsoever with Svoboda getting minutes.
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I call 5. Kostas leaves too. And if he does, I hope he gets offer and signs with Indiana.
Hey Smitty: https://indiana.247sports.com/Board/...oard-Forum-144

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We can debate the chicken or the egg on Kostas or X, but for Coach Grant either you practice hard and play hard, and play structured, or you do not play. Kostas, Crosby and X are on a different page than Grant wants the team on, and until they find their way, they will sit.
I think the difference between Crosby and the other two is that AG wants to play Crosby, but he may be the worst PG in D1 basketball and you just cant leave him out there for more than a couple of minutes. The other two, I suspect, are not giving the required effort.
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How do we know that Kostas isn't hurt
Because AG is quoted as saying it was a “coaches decision”. If it were illness or injury he would have stated so.
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We never heard anything about Landers and Mikesell being hurt till after the season last year. He could be playing close to the vest, this program has been secretive when it comes to injuries

Kostas could go JUCO for a year versus sitting out again if the transfer rules don't change

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I'll add #6 - Cunningham via Grad Transfer.
Josh Cunningham, meet Jaaron Simmons. After starring at OU, Jaaron's butt is getting sore at Michigan. (We certainly could have used Jaaron this season.)
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The Last Numbers I Saw

indicated that Kostas Antekounmpo had the worst +/- numbers on the team. But give AG credit. He found the antidote to Antetokounmpo...keep him on the bench.
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I don't know who is busting their butt in practice but ultimately you have to perform in game action. Matej kenpom numbers are bad and have gotten worse in A10 play and were bad yesterday. Perhaps AG has no other option now but planning for next year he needs to explore other options to fill those minutes either with other players unless a vastly improved Matej emerges.
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First off, it's February 11th and it's a great day to be a Flyer and Brandel Chamblee is still a complete d-bag. (sorry, unrelated fun fact)

Obviously there are a lot of issues - drama - changes - whatever, going on this year and nothing is going to change for the remainder of the season. This off season will probably as interesting as last off season.

AG has not made one single comment (that I have heard) about any player and what may or may not be going on, other that playing time is related to effort in practice. So here is I think the team will look like next year, because let's face it, this year is . . . .


Pierce - first, does he travel to ANY away games any more? Has to be a huge distraction in practice & locker room. Larry and Bucky called him out. That's all I need to know - GONE.

Williams - No one has said anything definitive other that he has some nagging injury issue - TBD - probably HERE

Cunningham - This is his team this year (sorry DD) and will be his team next year. Moving on is not an option, he's pot committed - HERE

Kostas - He is more of a project than anyone envisioned and everyone knows it. He is not the second coming of his brother. Short of his brother telling him to transfer, he is HERE

Svboda - He's been thrown into a messy situation here at UD. He's 3000 miles from home and likes the UD home crowd environment. Not enough tape on him for another school to be interested. He gets better next year - HERE

Toppin - Mikesell - Cohill - We all are waiting with huge anticipation on what these three can deliver next year. These guys are the key to next year - HERE

Landers - Finally finding himself - HERE

Davis - All of the playing time he gets this year will pay huge dividends for next year - HERE

Crosby - We all see the same thing on the court. He will see minimal playing time next year and he knows it, or he will start at a Div II school - 50/50

Assuming Pierce leaves and regardless of Crosby, we add one Juco big man - if possible.

Starters next year for the first game
Cunningham
Davis
Landers
Mikesell
Toppin

Off the bench
Cohill
Svboda
Kostas
Williams
Crosby

We will be 9.5 deep and will have a legit shot at dancing next year. Go Flyers!
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First off, it's February 11th and it's a great day to be a Flyer and Brandel Chamblee is still a complete d-bag. (sorry, unrelated fun fact)

Obviously there are a lot of issues - drama - changes - whatever, going on this year and nothing is going to change for the remainder of the season. This off season will probably as interesting as last off season.

AG has not made one single comment (that I have heard) about any player and what may or may not be going on, other that playing time is related to effort in practice. So here is I think the team will look like next year, because let's face it, this year is . . . .


Pierce - first, does he travel to ANY away games any more? Has to be a huge distraction in practice & locker room. Larry and Bucky called him out. That's all I need to know - GONE.

Williams - No one has said anything definitive other that he has some nagging injury issue - TBD - probably HERE

Cunningham - This is his team this year (sorry DD) and will be his team next year. Moving on is not an option, he's pot committed - HERE

Kostas - He is more of a project than anyone envisioned and everyone knows it. He is not the second coming of his brother. Short of his brother telling him to transfer, he is HERE

Svboda - He's been thrown into a messy situation here at UD. He's 3000 miles from home and likes the UD home crowd environment. Not enough tape on him for another school to be interested. He gets better next year - HERE

Toppin - Mikesell - Cohill - We all are waiting with huge anticipation on what these three can deliver next year. These guys are the key to next year - HERE

Landers - Finally finding himself - HERE

Davis - All of the playing time he gets this year will pay huge dividends for next year - HERE

Crosby - We all see the same thing on the court. He will see minimal playing time next year and he knows it, or he will start at a Div II school - 50/50

Assuming Pierce leaves and regardless of Crosby, we add one Juco big man - if possible.

Starters next year for the first game
Cunningham
Davis
Landers
Mikesell
Toppin

Off the bench
Cohill
Svboda
Kostas
Williams
Crosby

We will be 9.5 deep and will have a legit shot at dancing next year. Go Flyers!
Um where's Crutcher? lol
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Svoboda is playing cause he is the better option. There is more to basketball than stats.

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First off, it's February 11th and it's a great day to be a Flyer and Brandel Chamblee is still a complete d-bag. (sorry, unrelated fun fact)

Obviously there are a lot of issues - drama - changes - whatever, going on this year and nothing is going to change for the remainder of the season. This off season will probably as interesting as last off season.

AG has not made one single comment (that I have heard) about any player and what may or may not be going on, other that playing time is related to effort in practice. So here is I think the team will look like next year, because let's face it, this year is . . . .


Pierce - first, does he travel to ANY away games any more? Has to be a huge distraction in practice & locker room. Larry and Bucky called him out. That's all I need to know - GONE.

Williams - No one has said anything definitive other that he has some nagging injury issue - TBD - probably HERE

Cunningham - This is his team this year (sorry DD) and will be his team next year. Moving on is not an option, he's pot committed - HERE

Kostas - He is more of a project than anyone envisioned and everyone knows it. He is not the second coming of his brother. Short of his brother telling him to transfer, he is HERE

Svboda - He's been thrown into a messy situation here at UD. He's 3000 miles from home and likes the UD home crowd environment. Not enough tape on him for another school to be interested. He gets better next year - HERE

Toppin - Mikesell - Cohill - We all are waiting with huge anticipation on what these three can deliver next year. These guys are the key to next year - HERE

Landers - Finally finding himself - HERE

Davis - All of the playing time he gets this year will pay huge dividends for next year - HERE

Crosby - We all see the same thing on the court. He will see minimal playing time next year and he knows it, or he will start at a Div II school - 50/50

Assuming Pierce leaves and regardless of Crosby, we add one Juco big man - if possible.

Starters next year for the first game
Cunningham
Davis
Landers
Mikesell
Toppin

Off the bench
Cohill
Svboda
Kostas
Williams
Crosby

We will be 9.5 deep and will have a legit shot at dancing next year. Go Flyers!
In terms of starters, you forgot Crutcher.
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Originally Posted by N2663R View Post
First off, it's February 11th and it's a great day to be a Flyer and Brandel Chamblee is still a complete d-bag. (sorry, unrelated fun fact)

Obviously there are a lot of issues - drama - changes - whatever, going on this year and nothing is going to change for the remainder of the season. This off season will probably as interesting as last off season.

AG has not made one single comment (that I have heard) about any player and what may or may not be going on, other that playing time is related to effort in practice. So here is I think the team will look like next year, because let's face it, this year is . . . .


Pierce - first, does he travel to ANY away games any more? Has to be a huge distraction in practice & locker room. Larry and Bucky called him out. That's all I need to know - GONE.

Williams - No one has said anything definitive other that he has some nagging injury issue - TBD - probably HERE

Cunningham - This is his team this year (sorry DD) and will be his team next year. Moving on is not an option, he's pot committed - HERE

Kostas - He is more of a project than anyone envisioned and everyone knows it. He is not the second coming of his brother. Short of his brother telling him to transfer, he is HERE

Svboda - He's been thrown into a messy situation here at UD. He's 3000 miles from home and likes the UD home crowd environment. Not enough tape on him for another school to be interested. He gets better next year - HERE

Toppin - Mikesell - Cohill - We all are waiting with huge anticipation on what these three can deliver next year. These guys are the key to next year - HERE

Landers - Finally finding himself - HERE

Davis - All of the playing time he gets this year will pay huge dividends for next year - HERE

Crosby - We all see the same thing on the court. He will see minimal playing time next year and he knows it, or he will start at a Div II school - 50/50

Assuming Pierce leaves and regardless of Crosby, we add one Juco big man - if possible.

Starters next year for the first game
Cunningham
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We will be 9.5 deep and will have a legit shot at dancing next year. Go Flyers!
Crutcher = ditto Davis!
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I just read on UD Pride that Crutcher will not be here year!!!!
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You certainly are wrong about my motivation for wanting him to go to Indiana. If he goes to Indiana and sucks or is mediocre, that would look good for AG. If he goes and lights it up, that would look bad for AG. I want to know which one it is.

Basically everyone here assumes these players that AG doesn't use aren't deserving. Maybe that's true. But if he runs off great players, than there's a problem with the coach. I have no idea which it is and want to know.
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I just read on UD Pride that Crutcher will not be here year!!!!
Either that or he wouldn't crack the top 10 here lol
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You certainly are wrong about my motivation for wanting him to go to Indiana. If he goes to Indiana and sucks or is mediocre, that would look good for AG. If he goes and lights it up, that would look bad for AG. I want to know which one it is.

Basically everyone here assumes these players that AG doesn't use aren't deserving. Maybe that's true. But if he runs off great players, than there's a problem with the coach. I have no idea which it is and want to know.
Are you refering to Kostas as a great player? If so he is hiding it well. If you are refering to him as having great 'potential" then after almost two years where is the improvement. Sometimes things just don't work out. This may or may not be one of those situations, although recent past history leans to the may not theory. However hope springs eternal and Kostas may turn out to be a great player for the Flyers.
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Are you refering to Kostas as a great player? If so he is hiding it well. If you are refering to him as having great 'potential" then after almost two years where is the improvement. Sometimes things just don't work out. This may or may not be one of those situations, although recent past history leans to the may not theory. However hope springs eternal and Kostas may turn out to be a great player for the Flyers.
I give you former 5th overall pick in the NBA draft and All American Thomas Robinson. Big guys can take longer to develop

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Based on what's going on with recruiting and offers going out I'd be surprised if there wasn't roster turnover after the season
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Williams - No one has said anything definitive other that he has some nagging injury issue - TBD - probably HERE.
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I give you former 5th overall pick in the NBA draft and All American Thomas Robinson. Big guys can take longer to develop

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb...obinson-2.html
I agree it may well take longer to develop, I'm just not seeing much in the develpoment area. Maybe it's him, maybe it's the staff. Bottom line not much has changed, and we are coming to the end of his second year in the program. He may decide to seek greener pastures he may not, time will tell.
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Are you refering to Kostas as a great player? If so he is hiding it well. If you are refering to him as having great 'potential" then after almost two years where is the improvement. Sometimes things just don't work out. This may or may not be one of those situations, although recent past history leans to the may not theory. However hope springs eternal and Kostas may turn out to be a great player for the Flyers.
I'm not referring to anything because I don't know. But if he leaves and signs with Archie, then it would be interesting and somewhat informing as to how it plays out. I hope he doesn't leave, but if AG's coaching style causes enough resentment that we lose a slew of AM's recruits, I would be interested in one specific recruit playing for AM and that's Kostas. Now I focus on Kostas because of all of the recruits of AM's we have, his potential seems more likely to be high enough for a big 10 school like Indiana.

Also, playing for your chosen coach is different than playing one that you had little to no choice in. Everyone points a finger at the players but there's a reason that recruiting and signing is a long drawn out process and one of those is it's important to play for the right system and if that's the case, I don't think the players in AG's so called doghouse are fully to blame.

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Maybe this is nothing but it seems like PG, Guards and Wings are getting all the scholarship offers right now for the Spring signing period.

If Kostas or Cunningham was out the door or that they thought the possibility was there I would think we'd start to see some activity ramp on the post player front. The silence there makes me think they're happy with what they have
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I don't think we'll see nearly the turnover that has been speculated. For starters, Crosby and X will both be seniors next year. Seems odd that unless shown the door, they would sit out a year just to play one year at a new school. Can't imagine Kostas leaving for another college. If he leaves, it could be to play in Europe and try to develop his game there. Otherwise, he has to sit another year, which would basically mean he's hardly played in three years. Pierce, well who knows for sure. Seems the most likely to be gone.

Not much of a bettor, but I'd lean more towards 2 - 3 scholarships rather than 4, 5, or 6. Truth be told though, if all the guys bought into AG's program and busted their butts, I'd be just as happy if all of them stayed. I want our guys to succeed. To me, that's also something you can point future recruits to.
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If someone thinks they won't play many minutes next year there's always the option to drop down to D2 and play right away. They could be close to graduating too if the load up summer semester

I don't see 5-6 either but I think 3 likely 4 tops
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I don't think we'll see nearly the turnover that has been speculated. For starters, Crosby and X will both be seniors next year. Seems odd that unless shown the door, they would sit out a year just to play one year at a new school. Can't imagine Kostas leaving for another college. If he leaves, it could be to play in Europe and try to develop his game there. Otherwise, he has to sit another year, which would basically mean he's hardly played in three years. Pierce, well who knows for sure. Seems the most likely to be gone.

Not much of a bettor, but I'd lean more towards 2 - 3 scholarships rather than 4, 5, or 6. Truth be told though, if all the guys bought into AG's program and busted their butts, I'd be just as happy if all of them stayed. I want our guys to succeed. To me, that's also something you can point future recruits to.
I agree. There's no way that many leave. It's not good for the player, coach, or the school. I just don't see it.

Crosby - He must be trying. They keep giving him chances. If he could just play within himself, he would be fine. His lack of self awareness, has given Crutcher more minutes than I bet the coaches expected.

X - Has to be hurt, just has to. There's talent there. He flashed it a few times. Very few, but a few.

Cunningham gets it all....right here, right now. Think he's going to get the ball more playing in the Big East or Big Ten?

Kostas - He's been held back by injury, bad advice (not getting here sooner),personal loss, and a tad bit of immaturity. Bet he's not been humbled a little bit? This kid has the highest ceiling. Don't be surprised when he blooms next year.

Pierce - 50/50....who knows.
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I agree. There's no way that many leave. It's not good for the player, coach, or the school. I just don't see it.

Crosby - He must be trying. They keep giving him chances. If he could just play within himself, he would be fine. His lack of self awareness, has given Crutcher more minutes than I bet the coaches expected.

X - Has to be hurt, just has to. There's talent there. He flashed it a few times. Very few, but a few.

Cunningham gets it all....right here, right now. Think he's going to get the ball more playing in the Big East or Big Ten?

Kostas - He's been held back by injury, bad advice (not getting here sooner),personal loss, and a tad bit of immaturity. Bet he's not been humbled a little bit? This kid has the highest ceiling. Don't be surprised when he blooms next year.

Pierce - 50/50....who knows.
It's going to be up the players individually and if they are PO'd about the way AG has used them, they won't give a crap about what's best for the coach nor the school.

Crosby and Pierce are gone for sure I'd bet on. Pierce I would be questionable about if he'd not gotten a few minutes to destroy his redshirt potential. Crosby has no self-awareness about his weaknesses and just continues on like the world is wrong and he's right. X probably is also if he's sitting because he had a sore throat and the coach didn't like him taking off practice. Kostas is the only 50-50 I see. Basketball has been and is these young men's whole life up until now and I can't see them talking themselves into staying at UD if they're unhappy with their situation this season. Especially after trying one season with a coach that they had really no choice in.
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Specific to the VCU game, could you envision Kostas attempting to guard Tillman yesterday? He would have scored 50!

What is keeping Kostas on the bench is his lack of strength and inability (or lack of desire) to guard. Anyone notice that Kostas' minutes have gone down as AG has gone to more of a man to man defense?

Many, myself included unfortunately, were ready to write off Trey Landers after last year. I urge everyone to not repeat the same mistake. Kostas will be fine.
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Svboda is terrible and needs to go. He's not going to get us where we need to go. If X is injured, why is he playing at all?? Look at his body, almost no sign of serious weight training and he's at best another Sam Miller( without the jailhouse beat down)- soft, and just wants to be a 6'9" low percentage 3 point specialist. Get out! Crosby is beyond bad with 3 years of empirical evidence and needs to go. He has no redeeming qualities that make him an asset not worth dumping.

Why would Kostas take another year off? Doubt he'd leave.

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Svboda is terrible and needs to go. He's not going to get us where we need to go. If X is injured, why is he playing at all?? Look at his body, almost no sign of serious weight training and he's at best another Sam Miller( without the jailhouse beat down)- soft, and just wants to be a 6'9" low percentage 3 point specialist. Get out! Crosby is beyond bad with 3 years of empirical evidence and needs to go. He has no redeeming qualities that make him an asset not worth dumping.

Why would Kostas take another year off? Doubt he'd leave.

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Specific to the VCU game, could you envision Kostas attempting to guard Tillman yesterday? He would have scored 50!
I call BS. In the first 15 trips down the court, Kostas would have stopped him 5 times, got scored on 5 times, and fouled him 5 times. That's at most 18-20 points.

There is no scenario where Tillman scores 50 on Kostas.
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Specific to the VCU game, could you envision Kostas attempting to guard Tillman yesterday? He would have scored 50!

What is keeping Kostas on the bench is his lack of strength and inability (or lack of desire) to guard. Anyone notice that Kostas' minutes have gone down as AG has gone to more of a man to man defense?

Many, myself included unfortunately, were ready to write off Trey Landers after last year. I urge everyone to not repeat the same mistake. Kostas will be fine.
To be fair it's not like anyone else was stopping Tillman. If they kept feeding him the ball he probably would have had 50.

6'11 guys with a lot of athletic ability don't end up at Dayton too often. I agree we can't write him off. He's got once in generation ability for a big guy. Hopefully the coaching staff can work with him to develop his skills.
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Not looking for a scapegoat, but where is our newly created position of Director of Player Development if we have attitude problems? The job description reads: "The Director of Player Development serves under the direction of the head coach to support the men’s basketball student-athletes as a mentor and advisor in their overall development." I guess the key words in the description are "under the direction of the head coach" wouldn't you say?
I also am disgusted with the Josh Cunningham rumor of going somewhere else next year. He's our lone captain, he's playing more minutes that he probably wants, he's our MVP, he's already transferred once, he's getting help underneath next year, our talent level is on the rise, and he seems to have a good head on his shoulders.
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Not looking for a scapegoat, but where is our newly created position of Director of Player Development if we have attitude problems? The job description reads: "The Director of Player Development serves under the direction of the head coach to support the men’s basketball student-athletes as a mentor and advisor in their overall development." I guess the key words in the description are "under the direction of the head coach" wouldn't you say?
I also am disgusted with the Josh Cunningham rumor of going somewhere else next year. He's our lone captain, he's playing more minutes that he probably wants, he's our MVP, he's already transferred once, he's getting help underneath next year, our talent level is on the rise, and he seems to have a good head on his shoulders.
That would be Devin Davis...and couldn't agree more. As I stated on the Kyle Davis thread, I think KD would be perfect in this role.
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I also am disgusted with the Josh Cunningham rumor of going somewhere else next year. He's our lone captain, he's playing more minutes that he probably wants, he's our MVP, he's already transferred once, he's getting help underneath next year, our talent level is on the rise, and he seems to have a good head on his shoulders.
Not rumor - speculation that he COULD go somewhere else including places other than another school. Josh has been around college for a long time. There comes a time when one is ready to move on. Not saying he will and certainly hoping it does not happen but would understand.
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Not rumor - speculation that he COULD go somewhere else including places other than another school. Josh has been around college for a long time. There comes a time when one is ready to move on. Not saying he will and certainly hoping it does not happen but would understand.
This does nothing to dispel rumors or speculation (an impossibility on this board), but Josh was the feature of a Spectrum Sports player profile last week. They asked him about Archie leaving, AG coming in, and having his 3rd college coach in 4 years. He admitted being skeptical at first but after doing his research on AG and then meeting him, he was/is totally on board. Despite our struggles so far this season I've not seen anything to indicate that he and AG have any issues and I would be shocked if Josh sought a grad transfer.

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I don't buy Josh leaving. Really makes no sense given history. He's dominating here.

I also don't buy Crosby leaving, unless of course they change the 1-year sit-out rule. X and Kostas could definitely leave, especially Kostas. Pierce too.

Toppin is going to start day 1? I'll believe that when I see it.

I suppose it is a pipe dream to imagine nobody leaving, but equally absurd to suggest 2/3 of the **** roster leaving as some of the posts in these threads do.
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I don't buy Josh leaving. Really makes no sense given history. He's dominating here.
Josh has nothing left to prove at the college level, if he leaves it won't be for another school.
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Josh has nothing left to prove at the college level, if he leaves it won't be for another school.
Meaning he will go to Europe. He has very little chance of an NBA career, and none next year.
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Meaning he will go to Europe. He has very little chance of an NBA career, and none next year.
He's adequately strong and has a decent open jump shot, but not quick enough. He can look really good against college players but I'd be really surprised to see him in the NBA someday.

But stranger things have happened.
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There is an elephant in the room that everyone is avoiding. A lot of grad transfers do so for the opportunity to play in the NCAA tournament. Josh was hobbled last year and I'm sure he would love a get another chance now that he is healthy. Does he feel like he will be able to accomplish that next season at UD? I hope he does.
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True, but once you've graduated...

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There is an elephant in the room that everyone is avoiding. A lot of grad transfers do so for the opportunity to play in the NCAA tournament. Josh was hobbled last year and I'm sure he would love a get another chance now that he is healthy. Does he feel like he will be able to accomplish that next season at UD? I hope he does.
$$$$ > NCAAT.

Europe, G-League or NBA, there are risks involved if he choses to play another season of college basketball.

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Meaning he will go to Europe. He has very little chance of an NBA career, and none next year.
None next year? Of course, zero chance of the NBA now is correct but it might mean a bigger chance of him making it with another year in the program. A perfect scenario would have been for Josh to elevate his game 15-18 feet facing the bucket but that certainly wasn't the case this year and no fault of Josh with Toppin out and Koustas struggling. But who knows next year with both those players playing and, hopefully, much improved.
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Svboda is terrible and needs to go. He's not going to get us where we need to go. If X is injured, why is he playing at all?? Look at his body, almost no sign of serious weight training and he's at best another Sam Miller( without the jailhouse beat down)- soft, and just wants to be a 6'9" low percentage 3 point specialist. Get out! Crosby is beyond bad with 3 years of empirical evidence and needs to go. He has no redeeming qualities that make him an asset not worth dumping.

Why would Kostas take another year off? Doubt he'd leave.

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I don't know where to start! On 1/18/18 udscott started a thread on Svoboda and to be fair said to relegate him to the bench instead of kicking him off the team. maddog07 had a followup post saying, "Need to part company!" "He's not a asset and in order to get back to where we need to be we need his scholarship!" Further saying, "He's an unbelievable disappointment." While I believe he has not lived up to the hype, history does not lie and I think AG sees something in him! He must show intense desire and hustles his arse off in practice! I hope he stays and the following example is the reason why:

ruechalgrin started a thread on Crutcher after the first loss to UMass on 1/6/18 citing that he had many areas for improvement. Then over a month later at least had the courtesy to come back in a followup post and say, "he has progressed massively" and I'm sure we would all agree! Also in the same thread maddog07 stated, and I won't argue the point, that Crutcher was outplayed by Luwane Pipkens who had 25 pts. and 4 assists in the game. Pipkens is a sophomore so he has one more year of experience! His exact words were, "Compare him to our guy who can't or won't penetrate and has a bad release on his outside shot!" The point I am trying to make is that the light bulb does not go on for every recruit at the same time! It may take longer for certain players to mature and figure things out! WE should not be so quick to judge! That's what Anthony Grant gets paid for to evaluate. One thing we don't know about is the extent of X's back injury. Crosby will have to decide about his own future and Pierce may or may not be gone. Those type decisions should be left up to AG. I for one am all in on Svoboda and anxious to see what he can bring to the table next season!
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$$$$ > NCAAT.

Europe, G-League or NBA, there are risks involved if he choses to play another season of college basketball.

WWKRD?

Do you have to ask???
And still every year kids grad transfer for a shot at the NCAA's instead of seeking the money and fame that comes with a professional contract from a mid-level European team.
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I know this year has been a struggle but I actually feel like this team is close to being a really good team and I think next year could easily be another NCAA year.

Josh is obviously a legit threat every game. Landers has had some great moments and seems to be getting better as the season goes. Crutcher and J. Davis have certainly proved themselves D1 worthy (Davis needs to be a bit more consistent, which I think will come next year with this year's experience). That's four returning starters that are very good.

Mikesell returns next year and I think he'll bring a nice element to this team with his court savvy. Kostas is still very raw but I think he'll continue to bulk up and get batter. Svoboda has shown signs of improving and hopefully with a year under his belt he'll be more confident with his shot.

Crosby is Crosby, a few good things and many bad things. X, I am puzzled about and who knows what to expect from him next year.

Add in Cohill and Toppin next year and I think you have the makings of a very good team.

Maybe I'm an optimist or a homer but while I've been disappointed with the wins and losses this year, I haven't been disappointed with the effort and the thought of what the near future has in store for this team.
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And still every year kids grad transfer for a shot at the NCAA's instead of seeking the money and fame that comes with a professional contract from a mid-level European team.
whether it's true or not remember a lot of the guys who transfer do it because they think the greater exposure/competition will enhance their NBA chances.
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Completely agree. Also, our interior defense stinks and AG puts in Svoboda to guard Tillman instead of trying Kostas.

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Hopefully Kostas doesn't get discouraged and transfer. I think AG should be playing him, he's totally raw and racks up fouls but he isn't going to learn sitting.
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Okay, here are my predictions:

Josh Cunningham: Hopefully Returning. Wildcard.
Darrell Davis: Departing (graduation)
Trey Landers: Hopefully Returning, Should Return.
Jordan Davis: Hopefully Returning, Should Return.
Jalen Crutcher: Hopefully Returning, Should Return.
Matej Svoboda: Maybe Returning? Wildcard.
Kostas Antetokounmpo: Maybe Returning? Wildcard.
Jordan Pierce: Departing (Will Transfer I think)
John Crosby: Departing (Will Transfer I think)
Xeyrius Williams: Departing (Will Transfer I think)
Obadiah Toppin: Maybe Returning. Wildcard.
Ryan Mikesell: Returning.
Sam Miller: Has Transferred.

SCHOLARSHIP TALLY: 5 scholarships available at minimum (Sam Miller, Xeyrius, Crosby, Pierce, Baby D) one spoken for in Cohill. So 4 more available to give. With 4 more wildcard candidates, we could easily have 6 or 7 outbound transfers.

A couple of notes:

1) HOPEFULLY RETURNING: Cunningham, Landers, Crutcher, Jordan Davis. Retaining those key pieces is key. Losing any of them would be devastating.

2) JOSH CUNNINGHAM: Of the "hopefully returning category" this is the biggest flight risk. I think Josh stays based off the fact that he's had 3 coaching staffs in the 3 seasons he's played. And I am guessing at this point he craves continuity. However, that free transfer without sitting could be tempting. He's the one guy I could definitely see jumping to Indiana since he knows that staff already. I feel like we may be sweating this one out.

3) THE OTHER WILDCARDS: I can see Svoboda going the Euro route, but he is playing so I think he might stick it out another year. I put him at 50/50 to return. I would like to keep him but I don't see him playing over Mikesell so I don't think he will have a prominent role. Kostas should really just stick it out having sat last year. Work with his bro in the offseason. I don't think sitting next year as a transfer is a good option for him. He needs to play. It's possible he joins a pro club in Europe, but I think he returns. While I hope he does but losing him won't be a killer either IMO. For Toppin, I'm putting him as a wildcard just because of academics being a nonqualifier. If he's doing okay in the classroom, he should be back. If not, then JUCO.

4) THE FOR SURE DEPARTURES: Normally, I wouldn't put juniors in this category. If you've made it to your junior year without a redshirt, transferring to sit one, play one doesn't usually make a whole lot of sense. But Crosby almost transferred once. I think he probably transfers down. Xeyrius and Grant have clashed. It's almost like Grant is daring him to transfer. And I think he does. What he put on tape in his sophomore year will be enough for a good program to bring him in despite the sit one, play one status. As for Pierce, well that one seems obvious.

5) WHY WE ARE WHAT WE ARE: We've only got 4 guys that we have to retain at all costs! Two are freshman (Jordan Davis and Jalen Crutcher). One is a sophomore (Trey Landers - who'd a thunk he would be in this category!) and then redshirt junior (Josh Cunningham). The good news is those four plus Mikesell are solid. We're young and there's reason for optimism.

6) HOW WE TURN IT AROUND: The 18-19 freshman class is going to be large. How large exactly is TBD. But Grant needs to hit on at least 3 studs. We're down, but 3 studs (hopefully Cohill being one) + retaining the big 4 and we can win the league next year and dance.

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I don't know where to start! On 1/18/18 udscott started a thread on Svoboda and to be fair said to relegate him to the bench instead of kicking him off the team. maddog07 had a followup post saying, "Need to part company!" "He's not a asset and in order to get back to where we need to be we need his scholarship!" Further saying, "He's an unbelievable disappointment." While I believe he has not lived up to the hype, history does not lie and I think AG sees something in him! He must show intense desire and hustles his arse off in practice! I hope he stays and the following example is the reason why:

ruechalgrin started a thread on Crutcher after the first loss to UMass on 1/6/18 citing that he had many areas for improvement. Then over a month later at least had the courtesy to come back in a followup post and say, "he has progressed massively" and I'm sure we would all agree! Also in the same thread maddog07 stated, and I won't argue the point, that Crutcher was outplayed by Luwane Pipkens who had 25 pts. and 4 assists in the game. Pipkens is a sophomore so he has one more year of experience! His exact words were, "Compare him to our guy who can't or won't penetrate and has a bad release on his outside shot!" The point I am trying to make is that the light bulb does not go on for every recruit at the same time! It may take longer for certain players to mature and figure things out! WE should not be so quick to judge! That's what Anthony Grant gets paid for to evaluate. One thing we don't know about is the extent of X's back injury. Crosby will have to decide about his own future and Pierce may or may not be gone. Those type decisions should be left up to AG. I for one am all in on Svoboda and anxious to see what he can bring to the table next season!
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Josh has nothing left to prove at the college level, if he leaves it won't be for another school.
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Meaning he will go to Europe. He has very little chance of an NBA career, and none next year.
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$$$$ > NCAAT.

Europe, G-League or NBA, there are risks involved if he choses to play another season of college basketball.

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The chances of Josh Cunningham not exhausting his college eligibility are about the same as him playing in the NBA. Close to zero. If Josh was an NBA prospect, then the medical risk argument (particularly given his history) would be valid. Josh can get a nice contract in Europe but it can wait. Grad school and/or working to set himself up for a future coaching position would be wise investment in the interim.

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There is an elephant in the room that everyone is avoiding. A lot of grad transfers do so for the opportunity to play in the NCAA tournament. Josh was hobbled last year and I'm sure he would love a get another chance now that he is healthy. Does he feel like he will be able to accomplish that next season at UD? I hope he does.
Bingo. If Josh leaves UD, this is probably the driving force. A better chance at winning in the tourney elsewhere in his final year. He absolutely has something to prove at the college level, probably more than just about any player, because he was a shell of himself when he played in the tourney. What player doesn't dream about taking a team on a deep NCAA tourney run?
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There is an elephant in the room that everyone is avoiding. A lot of grad transfers do so for the opportunity to play in the NCAA tournament. Josh was hobbled last year and I'm sure he would love a get another chance now that he is healthy. Does he feel like he will be able to accomplish that next season at UD? I hope he does.

If he does transfer, then UD would get some publicity, as he would be known in all broadcasts as "Dayton transfer Josh Cunningham."
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The chances of Josh Cunningham not exhausting his college eligibility are about the same as him playing in the NBA. Close to zero. If Josh was an NBA prospect, then the medical risk argument (particularly given his history) would be valid. Josh can get a nice contract in Europe but it can wait. Grad school and/or working to set himself up for a future coaching position would be wise investment in the interim.



Bingo. If Josh leaves UD, this is probably the driving force. A better chance at winning in the tourney elsewhere in his final year. He absolutely has something to prove at the college level, probably more than just about any player, because he was a shell of himself when he played in the tourney. What player doesn't dream about taking a team on a deep NCAA tourney run?
The problem with trying to grad transfer to a team that is capable of a deep tourney run, is 1, they probably already have solid starters all around and incoming freshman so where do you plug him in? And that also assumes that he can pick up another system and fit in with other players. Too many times, players have grad transferred and end up playing poorly or mostly sitting the bench.

If Cunningham does leave, I'd agree with Rollo it's because he's got nothing left to prove at the college level and has an opportunity in Europe to start making money. I hope he stays though.
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The problem with trying to grad transfer to a team that is capable of a deep tourney run, is 1, they probably already have solid starters all around and incoming freshman so where do you plug him in? And that also assumes that he can pick up another system and fit in with other players. Too many times, players have grad transferred and end up playing poorly or mostly sitting the bench.

If Cunningham does leave, I'd agree with Rollo it's because he's got nothing left to prove at the college level and has an opportunity in Europe to start making money. I hope he stays though.
a team could return its backcourt but have a hole at the PF position. Wichita State was in this position and got a grad transfer from Anton Grady out of Cleveland State
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Originally Posted by TXFlyerFan View Post
The problem with trying to grad transfer to a team that is capable of a deep tourney run, is 1, they probably already have solid starters all around and incoming freshman so where do you plug him in? And that also assumes that he can pick up another system and fit in with other players. Too many times, players have grad transferred and end up playing poorly or mostly sitting the bench.
I disagree, I can think of at least a few recent examples where a grad transfer moved to a new team and fit right in right away and helped the new team make the NCAAT. The new team was glad to have the new help.

I am definitely concerned about JC leaving.
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Dylan Ennis grad transferred into Oregon and was a starter on a Final Four team
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I didn't say it was impossible, but it's not the norm, it's the exception. And even if there is a need, it doesn't mean the player will fit with the other players, scheme, etc. And with a fairly limited number of teams that from year to year are poised for deep tourney run and the much larger number of potential grad transfers, good luck if you are the not the one or two guys who it actually works for.
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Name one team in the country who Cunningham would not be an asset too, even if he was just coming off the bench playing 10 to 15 minutes per game. The guy is a stud, and put him on the floor with another skilled big man and look out.

Having said that, my $ says he stays at UD as he knows the talent is here for UD to get to the next level next season with our guard duo a year older, along a healthy Mikesell, eligible Toppin, and our lone recruit we have coming in so far.
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Josh has nothing left to prove at the college level, if he leaves it won't be for another school.
Nothing to prove? One freshman season that he felt compelled to transfer after. An injury plagued sophomore season that he didn't come close to showing what he can do and now an outstanding junior season. It's not like the guy has lit it up for 3 or even 2 seasons. He's got plenty to prove because he probably hasn't reached his full collegiate basketball potential yet. 3 seasons under 3 different coaches and systems. How good could he possibly be playing for the same coach/system 2 years in a row?
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First off, it's February 11th and it's a great day to be a Flyer and Brandel Chamblee is still a complete d-bag. (sorry, unrelated fun fact)

Obviously there are a lot of issues - drama - changes - whatever, going on this year and nothing is going to change for the remainder of the season. This off season will probably as interesting as last off season.

AG has not made one single comment (that I have heard) about any player and what may or may not be going on, other that playing time is related to effort in practice. So here is I think the team will look like next year, because let's face it, this year is . . . .


Pierce - first, does he travel to ANY away games any more? Has to be a huge distraction in practice & locker room. Larry and Bucky called him out. That's all I need to know - GONE.

Williams - No one has said anything definitive other that he has some nagging injury issue - TBD - probably HERE

Cunningham - This is his team this year (sorry DD) and will be his team next year. Moving on is not an option, he's pot committed - HERE

Kostas - He is more of a project than anyone envisioned and everyone knows it. He is not the second coming of his brother. Short of his brother telling him to transfer, he is HERE

Svboda - He's been thrown into a messy situation here at UD. He's 3000 miles from home and likes the UD home crowd environment. Not enough tape on him for another school to be interested. He gets better next year - HERE

Toppin - Mikesell - Cohill - We all are waiting with huge anticipation on what these three can deliver next year. These guys are the key to next year - HERE

Landers - Finally finding himself - HERE

Davis - All of the playing time he gets this year will pay huge dividends for next year - HERE

Crosby - We all see the same thing on the court. He will see minimal playing time next year and he knows it, or he will start at a Div II school - 50/50

Assuming Pierce leaves and regardless of Crosby, we add one Juco big man - if possible.

Starters next year for the first game
Cunningham
Davis
Landers
Mikesell
Toppin

Off the bench
Cohill
Svboda
Kostas
Williams
Crosby

We will be 9.5 deep and will have a legit shot at dancing next year. Go Flyers!
Cohill will start from day 1 replacing DD
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Cohill will start from day 1 replacing DD
And Mikesell will not be starting. He plays terrible defense and I doubt that's going to improve after the injuries he's suffered. He'll get his minutes, but if he's starting it's because the coach puts seniority over skill and while I had seen a lot of that with BG and a little of that with AM, I don't think AG rolls that way.
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