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Disappointing to see him go because despite his inconsistency I thought he had some talent there if he could put all together. A redshirt year and I think he'll be a valuable contributor
This must mean Sean McNeil time hopefully
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Good luck Jordan. Not surprising with Watson and Chatman coming in.
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I hate to se him go. He struck me as a quiet but devoted kid who gave his all but just couldn’t pull out of his sophomore slump. And in watching the transfers in practice, he probably anticipated a reduced role next year. That and he’s smart enough to see the recruitment of Sean McNeil — or a sharpshooter like him — as another indicator that AG thinks he needs to do better at that position.
I’ll always respect Jordan simply for honoring his commitment when Archie left. I wish him great success wherever he lands. He’s a quality player and will make some other fan base very happy.
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Wow. This guy basically was a two year starter.
We can all debate his performance.
We can all guess about incoming players....truth is we will never know, but we will type as if we do!
Good luck JD. Most of us will wish you well.
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Best of luck & thanks for being a Flyer, Jordan!
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I met Jordan this summer. He is very quiet, polite likeable young man. I’m sorry to see him leave.
I wish him well.
The numbers of transfers in college basketball is staggering.
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I doubt he will be the only one. I am happy he was a Flyer. Seems like a good kid. Only wish him the best and hope he finds a good place to play and develop. Hopefully he enjoyed his stay and feels he grew from the experience.
In today's intercollegiate sports this is the way of the world. You don't even need to sit on the bench to feel like there are greener pastures. If anything, this confirms that next year we will have some pretty good players on the court.
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I hate to see this. From everything we saw, Jordan is a great person and a quality, hard working basketball player. He had a disappointing sophomore campaign, but I had hoped he'd right the ship next year.
I understand the nature of college basketball and hope this provides an opportunity for both Jordan and the Flyers, but you always hate to see a good guy like Jordan step away from the program before his eligibility is up.
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This one stings. My favorite player. I thought given our lack of guard depth he would stick around for the PT alone. Thought wrong I guess.
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Best of luck JD. I'll miss him, good player, sound decision making, high effort kid. Seemed like the type of young man that would really get along well with CAG. I wish him the absolute best!
We really need shooting now...
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Best of luck JD. I'll miss him, good player, sound decision making, high effort kid. Seemed like the type of young man that would really get along well with CAG. I wish him the absolute best!
We really need shooting now...
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Don’t you worry, it’s coming possibly lol
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This one speaks volumes in my opinion. Off the top of my head, Khari Price is the only other starter I can remember transferring and he did it after an elite eight. While Price's injury and need to probably sit out a season played into his decision, I really believe he saw his demotion coming with Scoochie. I think Jordan Davis has to be leaving for the same reason.
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Originally Posted by Smitty10
This one speaks volumes in my opinion. Off the top of my head, Khari Price is the only other starter I can remember transferring and he did it after an elite eight. While Price's injury and need to probably sit out a season played into his decision, I really believe he saw his demotion coming with Scoochie. I think Jordan Davis has to be leaving for the same reason.
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Agreed. While I really like JD, he had to see from practices over the
last year the guard talent coming in. Watson is said to be the best player on the team by Larry Hansgen and Chatman is a proven player. Unfortunately that leaves little room at the guard position.
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Three years ago I remember watching you tube videos of Jordan Davis from Irmo, SC. He was the first recruit we ever gave a scholarship to from South Carolina. I thought he could be a valuable asset at SG and I wasn't wrong! His Freshman year, while the team suffered through a 14-17 season, he did not disappoint as he shot the ball well from 3 point range.
Even with the struggles he had this past season trying to regain his shooting touch he never quit or took for granted that he was the starting SG. With our final record of 21-12 one or two more losses probably would have kept us from making the NIT and I can remember at least two games where he stole the ball and went the length of the court to nail down a victory in the waning moments. One time it was the very next play after he made a critical turnover!
I have no doubt he will be a great asset to whichever team he decides to go. Thanks Jordan and may the rest of your basketball career be filled with many blessings!
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Don’t you worry, it’s coming possibly lol
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Fingers crossed, this is some foreshadowing of a deadly sharpshooter coming to UD.
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I hate to see him go but I suspected this over the past month or so. He strikes me as a good kid and a good teammate. Good luck in all his endeavors. I suspect he'll end up at a school closer to home in the SoCon or one of the southern schools in CUSA. (By that I mean he won't need to go to a crap conference). He'll find the right situation for him and whichever school gets his talents will be better because he is on their team.
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Really hate to see this because JD had the ability to make huge defensive plays and hit big shots. Wish him all the best because he definitely earned his time on the court. He’ll be missed...good luck Jordan - you’re a class act.
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Good player and an even better teammate. I hate to see him go. Thanks Jordy for being a Flyer.
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Are we allowed to tweet transfers :-) ??
I’m gonna miss Jordan. Seems like such a solid young man who did the university proud. This is the part of moving the program forward I don’t like.
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Honestly folks, start figuring out your excitement for the season starting around September when the roster is set. Given the state of college basketball, don't get your hopes up until the season is ready to start.
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Gotta clear out the weaker to get better. He is/ was at best an average A10 player. We don’t get to the promised land with him. We beat nobody this year with him and darn near nobody last year. Oh go ahead and lay down some Devin Oliver nonsense.
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Originally Posted by maddog07
Gotta clear out the weaker to get better. He is/ was at best an average A10 player. We don’t get to the promised land with him. We beat nobody this year with him and darn near nobody last year. Oh go ahead and lay down some Devin Oliver nonsense.
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Go crawl back under your rock!
While it’s true no one was ever going to confuse Jordan Davis with another J. Davis who played guard for our Flyers 40+ years ago, the young man is a class act. He’s a credit to himself and his family, and he represented our program with class. A guy like Jordan Davis is always a Flyer in my book, regardless of where he finishes his career. And he’s someone I’ll root for in life, as well as on the court (as long as he’s not on the court against our Flyers).
God bless you, Jordan. Best wishes, wherever life takes you.
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Originally Posted by maddog07
Gotta clear out the weaker to get better. He is/ was at best an average A10 player. We don’t get to the promised land with him. We beat nobody this year with him and darn near nobody last year. Oh go ahead and lay down some Devin Oliver nonsense.
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Originally Posted by maddog07
Gotta clear out the weaker to get better. He is/ was at best an average A10 player. We don’t get to the promised land with him. We beat nobody this year with him and darn near nobody last year. Oh go ahead and lay down some Devin Oliver nonsense.
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Your criticism is unwarranted! I'm not going to lay down what you refer to as Devin Oliver nonsense but I will however refute the fact that you stated we beat nobody this year with him! The problem is you don't have any facts to back up your statements. Let me give you some facts to refute your unfair criticism: We got off to a 3-0 start in the A-10. While Davis was scoreless in the 72-48 drubbing of Richmond he came back in the second A-10 game at GW with 25pts playing 30 min. going 7 for 11 on 3 pointers with 3 steals in a 72-66 victory. Toppin and Cunningham both had off games with 4 and 6 points respectively! In the next game we beat UMass at home 72-67 while Jordan, who played 38 minutes, contributed 21pts going 6 for 8 on 3 pointers. Ten games later at Davidson he had 15pts in 38 minutes going 4 for 7 on 3 pointers.
I would say without him there is at least 2 if not 3 games that may have been losses instead of wins. There may have been more. You may be right in saying he might have been at best an average A-10 player but next time you might want to check the box scores before you say "Gotta clean out the weaker to get better" He is not a weak player! He represented the University of Dayton in a way which Anthony Grant expects all of his players to do and we are better off for him having been a Flyer for two years!
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Your criticism is unwarranted! I'm not going to lay down what you refer to as Devin Oliver nonsense but I will however refute the fact that you stated we beat nobody this year with him! The problem is you don't have any facts to back up your statements. Let me give you some facts to refute your unfair criticism: We got off to a 3-0 start in the A-10. While Davis was scoreless in the 72-48 drubbing of Richmond he came back in the second A-10 game at GW with 25pts playing 30 min. going 7 for 11 on 3 pointers with 3 steals in a 72-66 victory. Toppin and Cunningham both had off games with 4 and 6 points respectively! In the next game we beat UMass at home 72-67 while Jordan, who played 38 minutes, contributed 21pts going 6 for 8 on 3 pointers. Ten games later at Davidson he had 15pts in 38 minutes going 4 for 7 on 3 pointers.
I would say without him there is at least 2 if not 3 games that may have been losses instead of wins. There may have been more. You may be right in saying he might have been at best an average A-10 player but next time you might want to check the box scores before you say "Gotta clean out the weaker to get better" He is not a weak player! He represented the University of Dayton in a way which Anthony Grant expects all of his players to do and we are better off for him having been a Flyer for two years!
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Maybe I'm in the minority, but I didn't see this one coming. Regardless of starter or not I thought he had a significant role to play next year. I like his game.
Good luck JD - Hope you find what you're looking for.
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Maybe I'm in the minority, but I didn't see this one coming. Regardless of starter or not I thought he had a significant role to play next year. I like his game.
Good luck JD - Hope you find what you're looking for.
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The amount of talent that was in street clothes this year is what happened.
Best of luck to JD, but I am willing to bet there will be one more.
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Maybe I'm in the minority, but I didn't see this one coming. Regardless of starter or not I thought he had a significant role to play next year. I like his game.
Good luck JD - Hope you find what you're looking for.
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The first hint this might be coming was during/after the regular season finale vs LaSalle. I watched closely as the rest of the team celebrated Josh and Jack, when they scored their final baskets and when removed from the game. Every player was giddy and excited for them yet Jordan was void of any emotion. That was also the game Cohill logged more than double the minutes and JD had but 2 FTs. Regardless, I sensed at that time his mind may have already been on the future.
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Wish JD nothing but success no matter where he goes. His 3 point shot was so up and down, but I still liked the way he was attacking the rim this year and his defense was steadily improving. Even with Chatman and Ibi taking minutes next year, I still thought he'd be part of a rotation, a 15-20 minute guy a night at least. Sad to see him go, but I get it.
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Gotta clear out the weaker to get better. He is/ was at best an average A10 player. We don’t get to the promised land with him. We beat nobody this year with him and darn near nobody last year. Oh go ahead and lay down some Devin Oliver nonsense.
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Didn't beat anyone with Obi, Mikesell, Crutcher, or Landers, either.
Guess they gotta go too.
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The young man may also have been going through some things early on from what was mentioned but, imo, it had far more to do with not making a big enough jump basketball-wise to fend off the incoming transfers..He probably saw alot more substitution patterns next year and if the kid couldn't find consistency in his shot this past year with all the mpg he played and needing to be in rhythm then no way he's going to accept playing half the mpg next year..
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Originally Posted by maddog07
Gotta clear out the weaker to get better. He is/ was at best an average A10 player. We don’t get to the promised land with him. We beat nobody this year with him and darn near nobody last year. Oh go ahead and lay down some Devin Oliver nonsense.
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Didn't beat anyone with Obi, Mikesell, Crutcher, or Landers, either.
Guess they gotta go too.
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I called this one weeks ago. He’s not great. Would he start for VCU? NFW, for DC ahhh no!, Billikens, Duquesne, Bonnie’s, no, no and no. And he likely wouldn’t start for several others. If we want to be great we need great players. Not guys who wouldn’t play much for our adversaries. Oh and check his offensive rebounds stats. 9 , that over two years , 60 or so games playing major minutes.Lotta extra effort/skill there. Matos had 4 in limited minute in but 6 games.
Probably a great kid. But he’s a quitter.!!! A quitter. He bailed on us!!!! And he not great. UD deserves better. I’ll help him pack. Bye, bye!!!
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Maddog you’re a piece of work. Would hate to be your dog; but if i were, i’d develop my jumping skills. And the first chance I got, i’d scale your 6’ privacy fence like it was nothing. Then i’d live on the streets until the dog warden caught me and take my chances in the pound because anything would be better than dealing with you.
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Quitter? I guess that makes over half our roster quitters...
Crutcher, Jordy, Ibi, Chase, Chatman, (McNeill)... all quitters.. GTFOOH
And quit talking out both sides of your mouth, you disparage the kid on one side for not being good enough, then disparage him on the other for not being "committed". You my friend are a piece of work.
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Probably my favorite for the last two years, but I called this one a couple of months ago. He just struggled emotionally and confidence wise this year. He needs to go elsewhere, clear his head, and become a solid player. He will be a great addition to any D1 team after sitting a year.
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Good luck Jordan. Not surprising with Watson and Chatman coming in.
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I believe this is it. I would wager there was a discussion about next years minutes with AG.
Not willing to anoint Watson and Chatman yet, but everyone on the inside knows what goes on in practice.
I like everything about Jordan Davis, but anyone who watches the NCAA tournament can see where the bar is set and we aren't there.
Good luck Jordan.
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Originally Posted by Medford
Quitter? I guess that makes over half our roster quitters...
Crutcher, Jordy, Ibi, Chase, Chatman, (McNeill)... all quitters.. GTFOOH
And quit talking out both sides of your mouth, you disparage the kid on one side for not being good enough, then disparage him on the other for not being "committed". You my friend are a piece of work.
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I guess he’s good enough for some. Some who are OK with mediocrity. The difference is he quit on my team, my school. Unless he he was encouraged by Grant to go ( which I doubt but which should have occurred), he took our enormous free commitment to him and ran rather than compete for minutes, get better, fight. That’s Ok but doesn’t mean I have to like him. Others who quit to come to us is fine by me. If they want to be part of our school, our team, our community, welcome to The University of Dayton, and congratulations.
And thank you for your embrace of different opinions
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Originally Posted by maddog07
I called this one weeks ago. He’s not great. Would he start for VCU? NFW, for DC ahhh no!, Billikens, Duquesne, Bonnie’s, no, no and no. And he likely wouldn’t start for several others. If we want to be great we need great players. Not guys who wouldn’t play much for our adversaries. Oh and check his offensive rebounds stats. 9 , that over two years , 60 or so games playing major minutes.Lotta extra effort/skill there. Matos had 4 in limited minute in but 6 games.
Probably a great kid. But he’s a quitter.!!! A quitter. He bailed on us!!!! And he not great. UD deserves better. I’ll help him pack. Bye, bye!!!
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Conclusions:
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2. Nobody who has a soul or an ounce of empathy types this or legitimately feels this (above message)
3. He's simply a sh!t disturber. Takes pleasure in outlandish and ridiculous posts, and even greater pleasure at the carnage that comes with the result of his posts
4. he's not worth debating with. People of sound mind and reasoning, yet with a different perspective, is a healthy debate. maddog07, not so much.
FWIW, he could probably start for the 2019/2020 Billikens
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Gotta clear out the weaker to get better.
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Good luck Jordan . You will be missed. Be nice to us at next years March madness.
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I believe this is it. I would wager there was a discussion about next years minutes with AG.
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Let's keep in mind this could have nothing to do with basketball and his minutes. Could just be homesick. Maybe he decided UD isn't the right academic institution for him.
Regardless, I wish him well. Guys like Jordan are always a Flyer in my book.
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“We are very appreciative of Jordan's contributions to our program over the past two years. He is a high character young man and we wish him much success and happiness with his next opportunity and beyond.”
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I guess he’s good enough for some. Some who are OK with mediocrity. The difference is he quit on my team, my school. Unless he he was encouraged by Grant to go ( which I doubt but which should have occurred), he took our enormous free commitment to him and ran rather than compete for minutes, get better, fight. That’s Ok but doesn’t mean I have to like him. Others who quit to come to us is fine by me. If they want to be part of our school, our team, our community, welcome to The University of Dayton, and congratulations.
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Let’s get this straight.
He didn’t quit on your team because you don’t have one.
UD is not your school as I believe you did not graduate from the U.
He decided to leave, his right...sorry to see him go
Can hardly wait to see who your next target is
I pity your family and co-workers for you are an evil depressed person
I would be happy to give you an electro shock treatment, battery cables, chair, bucket of water..No charge, courtesy of the red, white, and blue.
I could sell seats to fellow Pride Members!
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I've got to believe those in the know have heard rumors of this, because his name kept popping up as a possible transfer at the end of the season.
From the outside looking in, with absolutely no insider knowledge of the program, it looked as though he should have been happy with things. He got tons of playing time the past 2 years. I also think players at this level are so competitive that they think they can play with anyone, so I'm not sure the fear of the transfer guards taking away all his playing time would have been enough to make him want to move on. I guess he could have been told that he wasn't going to get much playing time, but why would the coaches say that so early? With injuries and so on, who knows how next year is going to shake out.
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I've got to believe those in the know have heard rumors of this, because his name kept popping up as a possible transfer at the end of the season.
From the outside looking in, with absolutely no insider knowledge of the program, it looked as though he should have been happy with things. He got tons of playing time the past 2 years. I also think players at this level are so competitive that they think they can play with anyone, so I'm not sure the fear of the transfer guards taking away all his playing time would have been enough to make him want to move on. I guess he could have been told that he wasn't going to get much playing time, but why would the coaches say that so early? With injuries and so on, who knows how next year is going to shake out.
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I had no knowledge and thought he was the most obvious transfer. He struggled shooting the ball in a position that absolutely requires it. With additions coming in, it's not hard to take the leap he's going to lose significant playing time.
Just because he got a ton of playing time this year doesn't mean it will continue.
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I hope he takes this year to get his confidence right and become a dangerous player again. He has all the inatangibles and a great work ethic. Just gotta put it all together.
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Originally Posted by st marys
I guess he could have been told that he wasn't going to get much playing time, but why would the coaches say that so early? With injuries and so on, who knows how next year is going to shake out.
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I don’t think coaches said anything of the sort. Jordan had a tough year. That had to sting. But I don’t think he’s blind to the skills of Chatman and Watson, and he knew AG was in need of a sharpshooter. Jordan’s smart enough to know the amount of playing time he’d get was likely to shrink. He’s a great kid, competitive, athletic. He knows he’ll find perhaps a better opportunity to showcase his skills.
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Look at the So Con and OVC this year. Several good teams. He has many options to transfer closer to home. Wofford could be a possibility.
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I don’t think coaches said anything of the sort. Jordan had a tough year. That had to sting. But I don’t think he’s blind to the skills of Chatman and Watson, and he knew AG was in need of a sharpshooter. Jordan’s smart enough to know the amount of playing time he’d get was likely to shrink. He’s a great kid, competitive, athletic. He knows he’ll find perhaps a better opportunity to showcase his skills.
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Agreed. These guys have been playing against each other in practice for the past year. They know who can play. Our talent level has gone up considerably and that’s a very good thing.
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Maybe he is following Archie.
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Originally Posted by st marys
I've got to believe those in the know have heard rumors of this, because his name kept popping up as a possible transfer at the end of the season.
From the outside looking in, with absolutely no insider knowledge of the program, it looked as though he should have been happy with things. He got tons of playing time the past 2 years. I also think players at this level are so competitive that they think they can play with anyone, so I'm not sure the fear of the transfer guards taking away all his playing time would have been enough to make him want to move on. I guess he could have been told that he wasn't going to get much playing time, but why would the coaches say that so early? With injuries and so on, who knows how next year is going to shake out.
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Me thinks confidence is exactly what he's been lacking based on his obvious frustration many many games and looking quite dejected so, imo, he'll be going to somewhere closer to home
like a Charleston Southern..
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I find it pretty hard to believe that a decision of this magnitude was made because he'll have more competition for minutes next year. So what? He's started basically since he got here. What bevvy of guards is coming in to replace him? Chatman is a PG. Ibi supposedly plays the 2 but seems to be more of a wing. All transfers are unknowns until they prove it on the court in real games. Matos is coming off a season-ending injury. Cohill was no better than Jordan this year, and AG trusted JORDAN with the ball when Crutcher couldn't bring it up, NOT Cohill.
He'd get plenty of minutes next year and would probably maintain his starter status until he graduates. Maybe its a girl. Maybe he's tired of being that far from home. Maybe he doesn't think the system fits, and something fresh and new could get him out of his shooting woes?
Who knows. That's the point. Nuance people. Boiling it down to being worried about PT is a convenient reason for us to wrap his departure up in a neat little box but I'm sure there are lots of reasons.
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Playing "plenty of mpg next year" can still easily be looked at as a lack of mpg based on someone playing 30-35 mpg each of the past couple years..
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I have to believe that Davis would be no better than a backup 2 guard next year. Great kid, but would you put the ball in his hands at the end of the game? Loved what he did for the team in many ways, but in the end he likely would have been the odd man out if we brought in another guard. For this team to be everything we all anticipate it to be next year, we really needed a shooting guard that is a better shooter and penetrator. All you have to do is watch the NCAA tournament to see that we were really lacking at the guard position this year. Every good team has an assassin, not sure Davis is that guy.
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Best of Luck Mr. Davis
Jordan was a terrific player and representative of Flyer Men's basketball. He will do well wherever he chooses to play. As many adults and college graduates know there is far more to life than merely success in basketball. He is a fine young man with good talent and, as many
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I have to believe that Davis would be no better than a backup 2 guard next year. Great kid, but would you put the ball in his hands at the end of the game? Loved what he did for the team in many ways, but in the end he likely would have been the odd man out if we brought in another guard. For this team to be everything we all anticipate it to be next year, we really needed a shooting guard that is a better shooter and penetrator. All you have to do is watch the NCAA tournament to see that we were really lacking at the guard position this year. Every good team has an assassin, not sure Davis is that guy.
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I find it pretty hard to believe that a decision of this magnitude was made because he'll have more competition for minutes next year. So what? He's started basically since he got here. What bevvy of guards is coming in to replace him? Chatman is a PG. Ibi supposedly plays the 2 but seems to be more of a wing. All transfers are unknowns until they prove it on the court in real games. Matos is coming off a season-ending injury. Cohill was no better than Jordan this year, and AG trusted JORDAN with the ball when Crutcher couldn't bring it up, NOT Cohill.
He'd get plenty of minutes next year and would probably maintain his starter status until he graduates. Maybe its a girl. Maybe he's tired of being that far from home. Maybe he doesn't think the system fits, and something fresh and new could get him out of his shooting woes?
Who knows. That's the point. Nuance people. Boiling it down to being worried about PT is a convenient reason for us to wrap his departure up in a neat little box but I'm sure there are lots of reasons.
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It’s quite possible that Chatman will be our PG, with Jalen sliding over to the 2. Regardless, everytime someone transfers, we tend to search blindly for reasons other than the obvious. I have no doubt Jordan would have gotten minutes next year, but I have lots of doubt that he would get starter minutes. He had a sophomore slump. You need a shooting guard to hit threes at better than a 32 percent clip. I think he’ll make another team very happy, but I think he saw the writing on the wall here and wanted a better fit. Do I know that for sure? No. None of us do. But he’s headed elsewhere and I’m content now to see how we fill out the roster while wishing Jordan nothing but the best.
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With Matos, Chatman, Jalen and Watson, where's there lack of depth? If you add in Hot Boy, we are loaded in the backcourt. That's why he left.
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With Matos, Chatman, Jalen and Watson, where's there lack of depth? If you add in Hot Boy, we are loaded in the backcourt. That's why he left.
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Any comments on this board about Jordan are pure speculation and opinion as far as I can see so far. There could be numerous reasons for his decision and believe it not, for some people life is more than college basketball.
The reality is 2-3 players a year transfer out for a variety of reasons.
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I find it pretty hard to believe that a decision of this magnitude was made because he'll have more competition for minutes next year. So what? He's started basically since he got here. What bevvy of guards is coming in to replace him? Chatman is a PG. Ibi supposedly plays the 2 but seems to be more of a wing. All transfers are unknowns until they prove it on the court in real games. Matos is coming off a season-ending injury. Cohill was no better than Jordan this year, and AG trusted JORDAN with the ball when Crutcher couldn't bring it up, NOT Cohill.
He'd get plenty of minutes next year and would probably maintain his starter status until he graduates. Maybe its a girl. Maybe he's tired of being that far from home. Maybe he doesn't think the system fits, and something fresh and new could get him out of his shooting woes?
Who knows. That's the point. Nuance people. Boiling it down to being worried about PT is a convenient reason for us to wrap his departure up in a neat little box but I'm sure there are lots of reasons.
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When you look at our offensive problems, it's quite obvious that we need replacements to our starting lineup. That starts at guard. We had trouble moving the ball and finding shots. Crutcher was a big part of that problem but I also think he'd be a great SG if we can find a better PG. Crutcher is not going to be coming off the bench, that's just inconceivable. Mikesell has earned a permanent spot on the floor. Obi starts no doubt. So it makes sense that improving guard play is priority #1 and Jordan Davis is the odd man out. I'm sure he saw the writing on the wall.
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Sophmore Stats 3ptpercentage
Jordan Davis 32.9
Rodney Chatman 32.5
Ibi Watson 32.3
The Sinclair player lists UD in his final 6 but competition is very high level for
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Sophmore Stats 3ptpercentage
Jordan Davis 32.9
Rodney Chatman 32.5
Ibi Watson 32.3
The Sinclair player lists UD in his final 6 but competition is very high level for
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Watson played so few minutes it's tough to read anything into his stats IMO
Chatman was a high usage guy for UTC, so it's possible like Cooke his % goes up here with fewer shots and a redshirt year to work on his shot
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For all of you who wonder if Miserabledog07 is just pimping you, I encourage you to see his post on the 2019 transfer string on March 6th. He called Davis a good player.
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03-26-2019, 06:43 PM
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HotBoy announced his final six last week. He could have easily picked his school by now. That he didn't and UD opened up a scholarship since then tells me we're still in the thick of this. It would be bad optics for him to commit to UD when UD had no official room. That problem has been resolved.
Keep in mind though its first-come first-serve. Who's to say someone else wont take the ship first. I doubt Grant has just one guy in mind. If you want it, you better take it while its there. And none of this, "well Ill take my merry time" if you're the first choice, because your second choice might walk somewhere else too during the wait. Then your first choice decides on another school and you're SOL on both.
Im sure these conversations have been dealt with already. Everyone knows what the expectations and understandings are.
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03-26-2019, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by steve
Well, if you know please do share..You've now had several hours now to enlighten us..
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Some of us work for a living. Also, what do you want me to share? I don’t care if you believe me or not
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03-26-2019, 08:20 PM
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For those of you wishing this young man 'good riddance' or posting disparaging remarks ............
Do you have no Christian values?
Do you feel you can say anything behind the cloak of the internet?
JD to my knowledge never performed an act (on or off the court) to bring shame on either himself, his family or the U.
Did you never struggle while attending the U?
Do you find it gratifying to berate a young man that seems to have as his only fault that 'he didn't live up to YOUR expectation'?
You should be the one you feel sorry for.
I on the other hand wish him all the luck in the world and that the grace of God bless his future.
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03-26-2019, 09:05 PM
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Thanks Jordan and Good Luck in all you do
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03-26-2019, 09:40 PM
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As i said above- JD was nothing but class at UD and I sincerely wish him nothing but success in life. Choosing to leave could have been something as simple as he wanted to be closer to a gf or family. I don’t get the vitriol either. Would love to see him make a final 8 or 4 because he’ll always be a Flyer. People tend to scoff at .32 or .33 shooting; that’s really the same as 50% from 2. Sounds like he put a lot of prayer into this decision- you’d think at a Catholic university that would mean something to “fans”.
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03-26-2019, 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by maddog07
Probably a great kid. But he’s a quitter.!!! A quitter. He bailed on us!!!! And he not great. UD deserves better. I’ll help him pack. Bye, bye!!!
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What? A quitter? Not on the court! Never saw that. Ohhh, so he quit the juggernaut UD Flyers? Well, let’s take inventory of quitters
Cooke
Sibert
Cunningham
Sanford
Watson
Chatman
Matos
Johnson
Tshiminga
Wait, some of these are future studs? Now I’m confused. Perhaps quitting depends on your perspective.
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03-26-2019, 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by SeasonTicketFan
Any comments on this board about Jordan are pure speculation and opinion as far as I can see so far. There could be numerous reasons for his decision and believe it not, for some people life is more than college basketball.
The reality is 2-3 players a year transfer out for a variety of reasons.
I'm really sad to see the vitriol on this thread. Very sad.
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The vitriol is really just a couple of A...holes. Jordan was a good kid and gave it his best and that is all you can ask of someone.
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03-26-2019, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyer2
The vitriol is really just a couple of A...holes. Jordan was a good kid and gave it his best and that is all you can ask of someone.
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Udscott doesn’t post in here and still gets bad mouthed...
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03-26-2019, 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by maddog07
Probably a great kid. But he’s a quitter.!!! A quitter. He bailed on us!!!! And he not great. UD deserves better. I’ll help him pack. Bye, bye!!!
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Originally Posted by maddog07
I guess he’s good enough for some. Some who are OK with mediocrity. The difference is he quit on my team, my school. Unless he he was encouraged by Grant to go ( which I doubt but which should have occurred), he took our enormous free commitment to him and ran rather than compete for minutes, get better, fight. That’s Ok but doesn’t mean I have to like him. Others who quit to come to us is fine by me. If they want to be part of our school, our team, our community, welcome to The University of Dayton, and congratulations.
And thank you for your embrace of different opinions
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I have seen some absurd posts on here over the last decade plus, but these rank up there in the top 10 most idiotic posts.
We can talk basketball and have discussions about players all day long, but to call someone a quitter. He didn't quit while averaging 30 plus minutes a game and sweating his ass off to entertain you.
Are the guys that transferred here and had lucrative careers quitters too? Cunningham? Siebert? Chase? Ibi? Cooke?
Sorry your feelings got hurt due to some emotional commitment you had to a 20 year old kid. If you want to discuss facts about potential playing time, results of games played, etc...then have at it. To call a guy a quitter who feels that there is something better for him out there is absurd. Only Davis knows if the decision he is making is the right one now and he is the only one that either benefits or regrets it in the future.
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03-26-2019, 10:49 PM
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Originally Posted by TX Flyer
Udscott doesn’t post in here and still gets bad mouthed...
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Why would you assume they were talking about udscott?
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03-27-2019, 09:53 AM
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Good luck JD wherever you may land.
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03-27-2019, 10:00 AM
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Originally Posted by IndianaFlyer
Why would you assume they were talking about udscott?
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Other than maddogs crazy post who else they talking about? udscott gets bad mouthed in every post...
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03-27-2019, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by TX Flyer
Other than maddogs crazy post who else they talking about? udscott gets bad mouthed in every post...
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udscott gets no sympathy from me. Pay up your bet.......troll.
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03-27-2019, 11:48 AM
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Please take it easy on Maddog. I am sure he has never moved away from his childhood house, never changed jobs, and still eats the same cereal.
Yells at his former friends who grew up, and moved away for a family and job. ARRRGggghhh!
Change is for quitters!
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03-27-2019, 11:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Flyer2
...Jordan was a good kid and gave it his best and that is all you can ask of someone.
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IS a good kid, and “Dilly, dilly” to the rest. Best wishes, Jordan, wherever you may land. Once a Flyer, always a Flyer.
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03-27-2019, 07:12 PM
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We have used Troll-Dog's name 28 times on this page.
He/she is in his/her glory. Other trolls are salivating to start their own thread. Let's try not to feed this attempt at childish attention.
He/she even enjoys my attempt to ignore him/her.
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03-27-2019, 07:18 PM
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I wasn't kidding when I asked if we could vote someone off the island. I don't have that decision making power, but I am already seeing some new trolls getting started.
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03-27-2019, 08:23 PM
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I show 61 players have played 2 years at UD. (Including Tom Frericks,Stephen Thomas, and Khari Price just among some I randomly picked.) Of those 61, and ignoring Crutcher who is currently on the list, Jordan Davis' 572 points ranks 9th in points scored.
He also is in the top 10 in the following categories: - Minutes Played, Freshman - 8th - 891
- Most Steals, Freshman - 5th - 32
- Best Three Point Accuracy, Freshman - 8th - 39.4%
- Most Three Pointers Made, Freshman - 4th - 56
- Most Three Pointers Attempted, Freshman - 4th - 142
If they went down far enough, he'd be 24th in 3pt percentage out of 47 at 35.9%. (Minimum 50 made)
Good luck to you Jordan!
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03-27-2019, 09:12 PM
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Originally Posted by TX Flyer
Udscott doesn’t post in here and still gets bad mouthed...
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Lol so true
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03-27-2019, 09:31 PM
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I have nothing but love for my fellow Flying C0ck (seriously that's what they call Dayton fans in South Carolina).
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