Duquesne @ Dayton Game Thread

[Fudd]

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Duquesne * @ University of Dayton
February 19, 2011 - 12:00 PM

[Fudd]

http://www.collegehoopsnet.com/74-du...preview-168755

http://www.collegehoopsnet.com/sites...uesneDukes.pngOverall Rank: #74


Conference Rank: #7 Atlantic 10 Conference

2009-10: 16-16, 7-9
2009-10 postseason: CBI
Coach: Ron Everhart (64-61 at Duquesne, 238-233 overall)

Final Projection:
The depth in the frontcourt may be an issue if the younger players cannot step up their game. The good news is this team will run more and Saunders is perfectly capable of playing at the five spot without getting into foul trouble. In fact, he averaged an amazing 36.7 minutes per game last year and only tallied 2.5 fouls per contest. Depth is nice, but nobody is going to replace Saunders’ production on the floor.

Projected Post-season Tournament: NIT

Projected Starting Five:
Eric Evans, Junior, Guard, 10.0 ppg
Sean Johnson, Sophomore, Guard, 5.6 ppg
B.J. Monteiro, Junior, Guard, 11.1 ppg
Bill Clark, Senior, Forward, 14.1 ppg
Damian Saunders, Senior, Forward, 15.0 ppg

[Fudd]

From WH:

http://www.basketballforum.com/atlan...real-post.html


DUQUESNE

W - BLUFIELD STATE
W - At Robert Morris
W - At Bowling GreeN
W - MARYLAND BALTIMORE COUNTY
L - Pitt (Console Energy Center)
L - At Penn State
W - At Green Bay Wisconsin
W - WEST VIRGINIA (Console Energy Center)
W - IUPUI
L - GEORGE MASON
W - NORTHWESTERN STATE
W - NORFOLK STATE
W - HOUSTON BAPTIST


NONCONFERENCE RECORD: 10-3.


The key to Duquesne's success this year will depend on the following: shooting better from outside (league worst 26% on treys) and defending better from outside (12th in 3PG FG%); grabbing more rebounds (-3.9 margin); getting more consistent point play; developing a deeper bench; and finding more help inside for Damian Saunders. THe Dukes are small or inexperienced in the frontcourt.

I think the Dukes should be better than last year. Everhart recruited some really good shooters and athletic wing players. They really need 6-10 frosh bigman Derrick Martin to get Clearinghouse approval. I predict a huge year for the unsung swingman B.J. Monteiro. He's like a smaller Saunders. Yet while the team has a nice core of four veterans, it's otherwise young and inexperienced.

The Dukes start off easy with Bluefield State (does this qualify as Div. 1 win?). Robert Morris lost coach Mike Rice and the new guy is young. RMU still has talent, but the Dukes should rout their smaller rival.

Bowling Green is young and coming off a poor season. MAC teams have always proven difficult for the A-10 to beat on the road. I see the Dukes eking this game out but wouldnt be surprised if they lost. The good news is that Ron Everhart almost always overachieves in noncon play and beats the teams he is supposed to beat. Hence a win over UMBC too (the school only won 4 games a year ago).

Then comes a tough stretch. The Dukes had their chance to beat Pitt last year. They won't get much of a chance this season.

Penn State is very beatable and the A-10 has had good success against the Nittany Lions. Tough to win on the road vs. a Big 10 team, though. Green Bay Wisconsin lost its coach after yet another 20-win season, but the team returns its top two guards and they have always given A-10 teams trouble. No gimme, this one. Could easily be the third straight loss.

West Virginia has a star in Kevin Jones and some tough veteran guards, but this Mountaineer team might be the least talented of the short Huggins era. This is my upset special. If the Dukes are going to get a bigname scalp, this is the most likely one.

Problem is, if they win they might let their guard down vs. a good IUPUI team that won 20 games last season, including a 73-64 win over Duquesne in Indy. Trap game. IUPUI has a terrific guard named (Young?) who would be an All-Conference player in the A-10. They won't be scared of the Dukes.

I see the Dukes either losing to IUPUI or Mason at home. Mason is tough and physical, the kind of grind-it-out team that gives Duquesne trouble. Both of these games are winnable, but there is little margin for error. The Dukes have to come to play each game.

The team finishes with what should be three relatively easy wins over lower-level Divsion 1 schools.

BONUS

A-10 PREDICTION: 7-9 (17-12 overall).

The Dukes pair up with Dayton, St. Louis and St. Bonaventure. Last year the team 2-5 against thos three teams, losing twice to Bona and barely beating the Bonnies (70-69) in the other game. I can't see the team doing any better than 3-3 in these games, and more likely 2-4. The Dukes also have to go on the road vs St Joes, UMass, LaSalle, Fordham and Richmond.

[Whacker]

http://www.udpride.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15609

Duquesne preview

[Browns]

I went to the Duquese @ BGSU game tonight so I thought I would make a few comments on what I saw. The Dukes won the game 90 - 54 but Bowling Green has looked really bad this year. To me Damian Saunders doesn't look like he is in the swing of things yet and spent most of the game hanging around the three point line (the falcons did play some 2-3 though which was part of it). The Dukes threw at a lot of full court pressure which caused the falcons all kinds of trouble and the freshman Mike Talley looked pretty smooth with the ball though I don't see hime being much of problem to contain with our combination of guards. Finally, Bill Clark looks tough again this year and was knocking down everything he put up. BG was just not athletic enough to guard him and I can see him giving UD a few problems as well. Given a 36 point win though I wasn't blown away with what I saw from the Dukes.

[lhsgolf19]

Let's Go Boys! Get the Big W!

[jcubspoe]

Blistering start by both teams....2-2 with 15:59 to go.

[frisco flyer]

Offense not clicking. I would like to see Luke come in after the TO, maybe he can get the offense going.

[jack72]

We are taking terrible shots. That one by PW was a joke.

[howard roark]

Man, the PBP guy is announcing in his sleep. Could he show less enthusiasm?

[AC91]

kind of frenetic and we missed a few gimmes, but i like th way we are hitting the boards nd playing D. CW is really doing a nice job keeping his guy in front of him.

[Jets Flyer]

I want my money back! oh wait! its a free stream

[jcubspoe]

Nice back door cut by BS.

[jcubspoe]

And Luke makes the nicest entry pass we've seen all season.

[howard roark]

CW is a great passer!

[Jets Flyer]

go after clark , get his third!

[jcubspoe]

and CW picks up foul #2.....shocking.

[frisco flyer]

Was that last foul on CW?

[jcubspoe]

Duq will leave Clark in with 2 fouls, we'll bench CW.

[lhsgolf19]

13-10 UD... 11:27 left in the half

[jack72]

Awesome!! Our D is intense today. We need to keep it up for the rest of the game.

[AC91]

21-14 7:54 left in 1H....amazing how good - and loose - we look when the guys are hitting shots.

[udx2]

I hope that they smell blood and do not let up. 21 -- 14.

[jcubspoe]

Bill Clark has 2 fouls and has not sat down...CW hasn't gotten off the bench.

[AC91]

it is amazing how may 25' prayers at the end of the shot clock are hit against us....

[lhsgolf19]

Originally Posted by jcubspoe Bill Clark has 2 fouls and has not sat down...CW hasn't gotten off the bench.

And we are still winning... your point?

[jack72]

That was a super move by CJ

[jcubspoe]

Point? Other teams leave their "star" players in with 2 fouls...we immediately bench anyone with 2 fouls for the rest of the half.

Scenario...CW sits this whole half with 2 fouls....picks up his 3rd in the first min of the second half...what did BG accomplish at that point???? Nothing. He benched his star player with only 2 fouls.

[jack72]

PW and Searcy are terrible. What happened to Paul? He does nothing on offense.

[lhsgolf19]

Originally Posted by jack72 PW and Searcy are terrible. What happened to Paul? He does nothing on offense.

What the heck are you talking about? Searcy has been our best player today... 10 points 5 rebounds 1 block in the half

[jcubspoe]

Diagree all you want....Duq made the call to leave Bill Clark in the WHOLE half with 2 fouls while BG decided to park CW for 13 minutes....

UD trails by 3 at the half...

coaching

[Browns]

Originally Posted by jcubspoe Point? Other teams leave their "star" players in with 2 fouls...we immediately bench anyone with 2 fouls for the rest of the half. Scenario...CW sits this whole half with 2 fouls....picks up his 3rd in the first min of the second half...what did BG accomplish at that point???? Nothing. He benched his star player with only 2 fouls.

Or he picks up his 3rd right after his 2nd...I don't see your logic.

[TommyGola]

We had all the momentum going for us until BG deflated it with his crazy substitutions. Keep Staten in there!

[lhsgolf19]

Originally Posted by TommyGola We had all the momentum going for us until BG deflated it with his crazy substitutions. Keep Staten in there!

he had two fouls also

[jack72]

Originally Posted by TommyGola We had all the momentum going for us until BG deflated it with his crazy substitutions. Keep Staten in there!

Parker has real problems with his dribble. I agree.

[TommyGola]

So you want to trade three key turnovers for the possibility of a third foul? I don't.

[lhsgolf19]

Originally Posted by TommyGola So you want to trade three key turnovers for the possibility of a third foul? I don't.

Staten had as many TOs in the 1st half as Parker... but I would prefer Staten over JP at the point no doubt, but not the expense of getting a 3rd foul.

But that's just me

[Avid Flyer]

We are playing with lots of hustle and heart but Duqs hit some unbelievable shots. Duq player waddles on the floor no call slides ball to corner and hits a trey. We were all over that ball but they get the bounce, call and points.

You cannot defend against pure luck. Duq is playing with intensity but they have had more of their share of last second luck. Throw up desparate shots and they go in. Oh well.

We are down by 3 again. What will the second half bring.

[jcubspoe]

Yes, he COULD pick up foul number 3 but if he does then you sit him. Look at it this way...he just sat for 13-14 min. Take your chances!!! We might have been able to buy 5 more min of play from him. He had 4 points and 4 rebounds. Having a good game. Clark is now in the flow of the game while CW sat for 14 min and now sits through halftime.

If he picks up foul 3, so be it....to me there isn't a difference that would warrant 14 min of bench time between foul 2 and 3 unless of course BG plans on playing CW all 20 min of the second half...which won't happen.

[jack72]

Originally Posted by lhsgolf19 What the heck are you talking about? Searcy has been our best player today... 10 points 5 rebounds 1 block in the half

The guy made 4 of 5 layups wide open, and on the sixth Wright threw a great pass and he did not even look for the ball.

[lhsgolf19]

Originally Posted by jack72 The guy made 4 of 5 layups wide open, and on the sixth Wright threw a great pass and he did not even look for the ball.

I don't care if he is cherry-picking the entire game ... he put the ball in the basket when he got it, that's all i care about

[jcubspoe]

LOL....boy, don't say I didn't "tell ya so".

[frisco flyer]

Not a good foul

[jcubspoe]

Now, there would be no difference if he had picked up foul 3 in the first half.

[frisco flyer]

How on earth was that an offensive foul on JS?

[TCEagleAnnouncer]

Some great court awareness there as the ball goes through Searcy's hands.

[Browns]

Originally Posted by jcubspoe Now, there would be no difference if he had picked up foul 3 in the first half.

Ok, so there would be no difference? Then why was it such a bad coaching decision to sit him then if there was NO difference? Don't worry I'll wait.

[UDBaby]

Horrible...horrible f'in calls. Changes the momentum of the game...refs!!! UGH!

[Avid Flyer]

[jcubspoe]

The difference is Browns, you play him in the first half until he gets foul three!!!! We lost 14 min in the first half with him on the bench. Maybe, just maybe, he could have gone 6-7 more min before foul! How hard is this to figure out???? As it stands, he's on the bench, again, with 3 fouls....the coach has to realize these things....Everhart does.

[88flyer]

These officials are starting to pi$$ me off!

[Browns]

Originally Posted by jcubspoe The difference is Browns, you play him in the first half until he gets foul three!!!! We lost 14 min in the first half with him on the bench. Maybe, just maybe, he could have gone 6-7 more min before foul! How hard is this to figure out???? As it stands, he's on the bench, again, with 3 fouls....the coach has to realize these things....Everhart does.

OHHHH, so your saying he wouldn't have got his 3rd foul right away in the first half if we had left him. See that's where I was confused I didn't know you had information like that.

[jcubspoe]

Let me put it this way...for most coaches, the benching mark is THREE fouls, not TWO...that way you "buy" minutes for your players.

[TCEagleAnnouncer]

We have to be the only team in the nation that can't inbound the ball under our own basket.

[frisco flyer]

For most coaches, the benching mark is 2 fouls in the first half and three in the second

[jcubspoe]

Browns, no we DON"T know that, he might have, but that's the point, WE DON"T KNOW! Everhart didn't know that either with Clark, but he played him! They didn't lose 14 min with one of their best players.

[Browns]

Originally Posted by TCEagleAnnouncer We have to be the only team in the nation that can't inbound the ball under our own basket.

I don't understand what is so difficult about it why can we not do it.

[jcubspoe]

Holloway has picked up 2 fouls numerous times this year in the first and never went to the bench. Star players play through it, unless CW isn't a star player.....

[jcubspoe]

2, 3, 4 fouls....BG better get Staten back in this game.

[udx2]

Following game on BB and UDPride so I can read the posts. Score?

[lhsgolf19]

Originally Posted by jcubspoe 2, 3, 4 fouls....BG better get Staten back in this game.

i finally agree with you today lol

[frisco flyer]

Originally Posted by jcubspoe 2, 3, 4 fouls....BG better get Staten back in this game.

and CW too. We need to make a move NOW

[FlyingArrow]

Just getting here, I saw jcubspoe was the last person who posted and I assumed we were losing.

[lhsgolf19]

DUQ up 46-44... 12 minutes left

[jack72]

This is stupid. What is he saving JS and CW for next game? This is crunch time, right now.

[jcubspoe]

watch it Jack....stepping on the sweatvests with that comment.

[jcubspoe]

Has CW lost his mind out there?????? You can't throw elbows like that.

[AC91]

what was the foul?

[FlyingArrow]

Wright with a 4th foul - wow.

[jcubspoe]

Gonna have win this one without CW.

[FlyingArrow]

48-47 Duq
9:16

[jcubspoe]

Staten's penetration is really opening up the offensive glass for us.

[FlyingArrow]

51-50 Duquesne lead
8:03 to go

[howard roark]

Originally Posted by howard roark Man, the PBP guy is announcing in his sleep. Could he show less enthusiasm?

That is, unless Bill Clark hits a three. Geez, dude.

[jack72]

What has happened to Spearman?

[FlyingArrow]

53-50 Duquesne
Chris Johnson to the line for a 1-1
6:24 to go

[FlyingArrow]

53-52 Duquesne
6:10 to go

[jack72]

Why is PW playing? He is lost.

[jcubspoe]

Oh well..................

[jack72]

Why is PW playing???????

[Jets Flyer]

Why is he dribbling?!? Hang on!

[TommyGola]

Paul is playing because he is part of BG's player rotation. Those two turnovers are plays that juniors should not be making. He used to be be so good with ball control and the last ten games he has lost it.

[jack72]

Originally Posted by TommyGola Paul is playing because he is part of BG's player rotation. Those two turnovers are plays that juniors should not be making. He used to be be so good with ball control and the last ten games he has lost it.

Amen and 1-9 from the field

[Jets Flyer]

BG needs to script 3 plays here

[Jets Flyer]

There's one! the "lane wall" for staten

[frisco flyer]

C'mon Flyers, bring this baby home!
Get thwe W!

[Phinhead54]

CW with a huge block, PW with huge free throws.

[frisco flyer]

9-0 run in crunch time. Keep it going guys......Let's win this game.........

[jack72]

why was Oliver in there for some terrible D

[AC91]

that's it, Juwan! Now D it up and rebound!

[Jets Flyer]

heave it down to CW

[Jets Flyer]

cr@p, don't listen to me!

[AC91]

great D to finish it! sweeeet!

[lhsgolf19]

Great Win!

[Jets Flyer]

CW! difference maker!

[Kopake]

It was great to see Clark falter at the end. I hate that guy.

[jack72]

I take it back-- Searcy is player of the game.

[Fairways & Greens]

Just win baby! Wow, that felt good to beat a good team!

[jack72]

Great effort and a great win. Go Flyers!!!!!!!

[Larymike]

I am proud (and a bit surprised) of the UD Flyers game today. They played with heart and gutted it out to the end. I invite the UD players to show this kind of energy thru the rest of this season. Good things happen when you play this way.

Go UD!