Games of Note 2015/16

[Medford]

anyhoo, Thursday 12/3:

Southern Cal @ Santa Barbara

yeah, I know UD didn't play USC, but several of our opponents did, Monmouth twice, and there are no games this evening involving an A10 foe or a previously played, or about to be played opponent.

#1 Kentucky @ UCLA, because, as I mentioned above, its a slow night hoops wise, this is the only game of any interest nationally; seems like a good night to get our Christmas Cards addressed.

[TerryK_67]

The IU job is NOT what it used to be.... Even there facilities are quite a bit below Big Ten standards. But "somehow" their mediocre team still gets ranked......

[ud2]

Originally Posted by TerryK_67 The IU job is NOT what it used to be.... Even there facilities are quite a bit below Big Ten standards. But "somehow" their mediocre team still gets ranked......

I believe that they are getting ready to renovate Assembly Hall.

[ud2]

Originally Posted by priceg75 Fordham 73 v. St. John's 57 Morehead St. 60 @ St. Louis 46 Don't look now, but Fordham isn't terrible.

St. John's must be pretty bad.

SLU? 46 points?

	Fordham FORDHAM Fordham University is an independent Jesuit university established in 1841 as St. John's College on old Rose Hill Manor in the village of Fordham, then part of Westchester County in the Bronx, NY. The name Fordham is derived from the Anglo-Saxon words "ford" and "ham," meaning a wading place or ford by a settlement. Rose Hill is the name given to the site in 1787 by Robert Watts, a wealthy New York merchant, in honor of his family's ancestral home of the same name in Scotland. The College was originally staffed by diocesan clergy. The name was officially changed to Fordham University in 1907. Fordham's 10 schools enroll 14,448 students. There are 7,652 undergraduates, of whom 3,842 live in University-managed housing either on-campus or in the local community. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams. Athletic claim to fame is consistent mediocrity in nearly all sports and few A10 title winning programs.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[BRob2Perryman3]

Originally Posted by priceg75 A10 scores last night: Towson 75 v. GMU 54 GW 72 v. Seton Hall 64 Hofstra 84 @ LaSalle 80 URI 74 v. Holy Cross 56 Fordham 73 v. St. John's 57 UMass 99 v. Boston U. 69 St. Bonnie 60 @ Buffalo 58 Morehead St. 60 @ St. Louis 46 VCU 62 @ MTSU 56 Don't look now, but Fordham isn't terrible.

I said this last year. Imagine if Paschall didn't bail. Christian Sengfelder will be a pain in the ass the next 3 years.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

	Fordham FORDHAM Fordham University is an independent Jesuit university established in 1841 as St. John's College on old Rose Hill Manor in the village of Fordham, then part of Westchester County in the Bronx, NY. The name Fordham is derived from the Anglo-Saxon words "ford" and "ham," meaning a wading place or ford by a settlement. Rose Hill is the name given to the site in 1787 by Robert Watts, a wealthy New York merchant, in honor of his family's ancestral home of the same name in Scotland. The College was originally staffed by diocesan clergy. The name was officially changed to Fordham University in 1907. Fordham's 10 schools enroll 14,448 students. There are 7,652 undergraduates, of whom 3,842 live in University-managed housing either on-campus or in the local community. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams. Athletic claim to fame is consistent mediocrity in nearly all sports and few A10 title winning programs.

	LaSalle LA SALLE In 1863, La Salle University was established through the legacy of St. John Baptist de La Salle and the Christian Brothers teaching order, which De La Salle founded 300 years ago. Located in Philadelphia, La Salle is an educational community shaped by traditional Catholic and Lasallian values. La Salle's main campus is an ideal place for students to pursue an education. The 130-acre park-like setting includes 54 buildings and is located approximately six miles from Center City Philadelphia. The University can accommodate 2,114 resident students in its 12 residence halls, two apartment complexes, and 75 townhouses. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Explorers. Notable athletes include Tom Gola and Lionel Simmons.

[LI Flyer]

Originally Posted by BRob2Perryman3 I said this last year. Imagine if Paschall didn't bail. Christian Sengfelder will be a pain in the ass the next 3 years.

Fordham's loss of Paschall was not a big deal, but the loss of a poor coach was significant. Beating both Manhattan and SJU would not have occurred if the former regime was in place. We have had a number of close calls with the Rams in past years. This year they cannot be taken for granted.

	St Joseph's ST. JOSEPH'S Founded by the Society of Jesus in 1851, Saint Joseph's University advances the professional and personal ambitions of men and women by providing a demanding, yet supportive educational experience. One of only 139 schools nationwide with a Phi Beta Kappa chapter and AACSB business school accreditation, Saint Joseph's is home to 4,200 full-time undergraduates and 3,100 graduate, part-time and doctoral candidates. Located in urban Philadelphia, SJU is a fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Hawks. Athletic claim to fame is is the Hawk mascot, a university student on full scholarship who wears a Hawk uniform and flaps his wings continuously for an entire athletic event. School spirit slogan is "The Hawk Will Never Die."

	Fordham FORDHAM Fordham University is an independent Jesuit university established in 1841 as St. John's College on old Rose Hill Manor in the village of Fordham, then part of Westchester County in the Bronx, NY. The name Fordham is derived from the Anglo-Saxon words "ford" and "ham," meaning a wading place or ford by a settlement. Rose Hill is the name given to the site in 1787 by Robert Watts, a wealthy New York merchant, in honor of his family's ancestral home of the same name in Scotland. The College was originally staffed by diocesan clergy. The name was officially changed to Fordham University in 1907. Fordham's 10 schools enroll 14,448 students. There are 7,652 undergraduates, of whom 3,842 live in University-managed housing either on-campus or in the local community. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams. Athletic claim to fame is consistent mediocrity in nearly all sports and few A10 title winning programs.

[priceg75]

They would've won a lot of games if they had a coach that could get them to play defense.

[1903 Flyer]

Originally Posted by Medford Duke drubs Indiana, which is 5-3 on the seasons. Of all the jobs in the country, this is the one I want to see succeed this season. It just feels like IU is itching to get rid of Crean, but the buyout last season was excessive (allegedly it drops a good deal after this season). I think Archie would be at or near the top of their list, I wouldn't blame Archie one bit for taking it, and I think he'd kill it there. I mean, I know its inevitable, to the point that I shouldn't worry about it, but this one just feels more plausible than any other scenerio I've seen to date (aside from Ohio St, but I think Thad got a decent size leash up there, only question at this point is his back)

You are correct regarding Crean's buyout. It drops from $12M to $7.5M if he is fired after June 2016.

Link: http://latenighthoops.com/crean-buyout/#.VmDZhqQiaBY

[anthonycharles]

What is up with George Mason? They beat Ole Miss and Okie St but lose to Colgate, Mercer, Manhattan and Towson. Jekyll & Hyde.

[jack72]

Originally Posted by Medford As mentioned above 6-3 night for the A10, which is OK, considering that they got all of the "big" ones, as well as a few sneaky good wins (like VCU on the road at Middle Tennessee St, but the LaSalle loss at home and the SLU drubbing at home by Morehead St (perhaps Crews was confused when his AD asked if he wanted Morehead) sting a bit, kept it from being a truly great night. Duke drubs Indiana, which is 5-3 on the seasons. Of all the jobs in the country, this is the one I want to see succeed this season. It just feels like IU is itching to get rid of Crean, but the buyout last season was excessive (allegedly it drops a good deal after this season). I think Archie would be at or near the top of their list, I wouldn't blame Archie one bit for taking it, and I think he'd kill it there. I mean, I know its inevitable, to the point that I shouldn't worry about it, but this one just feels more plausible than any other scenerio I've seen to date (aside from Ohio St, but I think Thad got a decent size leash up there, only question at this point is his back)

Unfortunately Archie would probably take the IU job. In terms of support and basketball being #1, it is like UD, and way better than OSU. That is a crazy nuts basketball state and they love IU.

	LaSalle LA SALLE In 1863, La Salle University was established through the legacy of St. John Baptist de La Salle and the Christian Brothers teaching order, which De La Salle founded 300 years ago. Located in Philadelphia, La Salle is an educational community shaped by traditional Catholic and Lasallian values. La Salle's main campus is an ideal place for students to pursue an education. The 130-acre park-like setting includes 54 buildings and is located approximately six miles from Center City Philadelphia. The University can accommodate 2,114 resident students in its 12 residence halls, two apartment complexes, and 75 townhouses. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Explorers. Notable athletes include Tom Gola and Lionel Simmons.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[ud69]

Dayton > Monmouth > UCLA > Kentucky

No?

[ud99]

I don't want to look at it that way. Cause that would mean that X is greater than us an should be #1 in the country. I hope I never see that day. I wouldn't be able to go to work.

[longtimefan]

Originally Posted by ud99 I don't want to look at it that way. Cause that would mean that X is greater than us an should be #1 in the country. I hope I never see that day. I wouldn't be able to go to work.

I really wouldn't mind that if we were #2. If we were #2 in the country I wouldn't care who was #1!

[Medford]

USC won at Santa Barbara, which helps Monmouth, which in turn helps us and as mentioned, UCLA won (which also helps Monmouth, which in turn helps us)..otherwise, it was a dull night.

Friday is typically a dull night in NCAA basketball, but not this Friday 12/4:

Arkansas (+5.5) @ Wake Forest
Saint Joes (+3) @ Columbia
Pitt (-8.5) @ Duquesne (eat ....stuff Pitt!)
Bama (-14.5) @ Southern Miss

	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

[Medford]

Saturday 12/5:

Miami (OH) @ IUPUI
Drexel @ LaSalle
W&M @ #10 Virginia
UMKC @ Iowa
Ole Miss @ UMass
Ohio @ St Bonnies
Central Conn St @ Fordham (I think that's the hometown coach's old stomping ground)
Northern Iowa @ Richmond
Penn @ Mason
#23 Providence @ Rhody
Western Kentucky @ Xavier
Wichita St @ Saint Louis

	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	St Bonaventure SAINT BONAVENTURE Founded in 1858, St. Bonaventure University is a liberal arts college located on 500 acres in southwestern New York state. SBU offers 43 undergraduate majors, the most popular of which are elementary education, journalism, psychology, accounting, marketing, finance, and management. Total undergraduate enrollment is 2,000. Virtually all freshmen and most undergraduates live on campus. A founding member of the A10 Conference. Famous athletes include Bob Lanier. Historical nickname was the Brown Indians, but later changed to the Bonnies. Their mascot is a wolf.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

	Fordham FORDHAM Fordham University is an independent Jesuit university established in 1841 as St. John's College on old Rose Hill Manor in the village of Fordham, then part of Westchester County in the Bronx, NY. The name Fordham is derived from the Anglo-Saxon words "ford" and "ham," meaning a wading place or ford by a settlement. Rose Hill is the name given to the site in 1787 by Robert Watts, a wealthy New York merchant, in honor of his family's ancestral home of the same name in Scotland. The College was originally staffed by diocesan clergy. The name was officially changed to Fordham University in 1907. Fordham's 10 schools enroll 14,448 students. There are 7,652 undergraduates, of whom 3,842 live in University-managed housing either on-campus or in the local community. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams. Athletic claim to fame is consistent mediocrity in nearly all sports and few A10 title winning programs.

	LaSalle LA SALLE In 1863, La Salle University was established through the legacy of St. John Baptist de La Salle and the Christian Brothers teaching order, which De La Salle founded 300 years ago. Located in Philadelphia, La Salle is an educational community shaped by traditional Catholic and Lasallian values. La Salle's main campus is an ideal place for students to pursue an education. The 130-acre park-like setting includes 54 buildings and is located approximately six miles from Center City Philadelphia. The University can accommodate 2,114 resident students in its 12 residence halls, two apartment complexes, and 75 townhouses. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Explorers. Notable athletes include Tom Gola and Lionel Simmons.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[Medford]

Sunday 12/6:

VCU @ Free Shoes U
Davidson @ UNC
#16 Vandy @ #25 Baylor

[1903 Flyer]

Originally Posted by Medford Sunday 12/6: VCU @ Free Shoes U Davidson @ UNC #16 Vandy @ #25 Baylor

With Vandy on deck, is it wrong to wish for a bench-clearing brawl in the Vandy @ Baylor game?

[ocdvic]

Khari Price just threw in a 71-footer to close the 1st half, giving Southern Miss (0-5) a 30-29 lead over Bama. He lead them with 10 points, with all of his FG attempts from 3 (3-6). It's on FS1.

[Beatty Town Coach]

Duquesne beat down pretty good by Pittsburgh. But, I saw nothing that indicates UD will not continue to struggle at Duquesne on first weekend of new year to open up the A10 slate. The Dukes still looking capable.

	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

[ruechalgrin]

Arkansas loses by 3 to Wake Forest ...

[1903 Flyer]

Originally Posted by ocdvic Khari Price just threw in a 71-footer to close the 1st half, giving Southern Miss (0-5) a 30-29 lead over Bama. He lead them with 10 points, with all of his FG attempts from 3 (3-6). It's on FS1.

Southern Miss just committed their THIRD TEAM FOUL of the half...with under 4 minutes to play. Must be nice to play more than one possession without a foul called.

In other news, Monmouth loses to Canisius by 10. Good grief.

[priceg75]

Canisius picked to finish 6th in the MAAC. At least it was a road loss for Monmouth, but hope they don't resemble the BG-era Flyers. Non-con heroes, .500 in conference.

[ruechalgrin]

The Monmouth loss shows how difficult it is to win on the road in college basketball. Monmouth only a 63% chance to win at Canisius and favored only by 4.

It is about equally likely to win versus #1 at home as it is to win #50 neutral as it is to win at 100 on the road.

So yes, UD has about an equal shot to win versus Kentucky at UD Arena as it does to beat Texas at a neutral location as it does to beat Yale at Yale. This is a little too simplistic and a little easier to beat Yale at Yale versus Kentucky at UD Arena, but not that much easier.

The NCAA Committee way overvalues top 50 home wins -- it will overvalue UCLAs home win versus Kentucky and overvalued Texas 3-12 top 50 record last year -- 2/3 of their wins were at home and the other neutral.

[NCkevi]

Originally Posted by 1903 Flyer In other news, Monmouth loses to Canisius by 10. Good grief.

But their bench is fun to watch so who cares!!

[FLYER5]

Want to see something more amusing than their act..... put them in the game! Maybe they did play against Canisius.

[Bill McPeek]

Rhody up 4 at half over Providence 36-32.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[1903 Flyer]

SEMO trailing Memphis by 2 at the half. Certainly not expecting much from them, but it would be nice for them to win a game...any game...at some point this year.

[Sea Bass]

SLU lost at home to MoreHead by 18 the other night. Tonight MoreHead is down by 40 early in the 2nd half at IU. Go Mr Crews.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[Glen Clark]

Originally Posted by Bill McPeek Rhody up 4 at half over Providence 36-32.

Providence over RI 74-72 on a tip-in at the buzzer by Ben Bentil

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Whether your glass is half full or half empty, you still have more to drink

[Glen Clark]

Originally Posted by 1903 Flyer SEMO trailing Memphis by 2 at the half. Certainly not expecting much from them, but it would be nice for them to win a game...any game...at some point this year.

It won't be this game - Memphis up 13, less than a minute left.

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[NCkevi]

Originally Posted by Glen Clark It won't be this game - Memphis up 13, less than a minute left. _____________________ Whether your glass is half full or half empty, you still have more to drink

I think overall UD does a good job scheduling but SEMO has been a poor RPI team for a while - need to avoid scheduling likely 200+ RPI teams!

[UD62]

As of today UD Pride RPI has the Flyers #11 with a SOS of 28. the OOC has worked out pretty well so far. As has been the case most years the OOC has been fine and in conference has been less than ideal. AM is changing the in conference performance and continued strong performance in the OOC should pay off in March. Last year the Flyers got the short end of the stick, but I believe that was a flat out miss by the committee. OOC could be improved by fewer poor buy games and maybe a home and home with a MVC, Pac 12 or BIG team. We seem to have a good relationship with the SEC. The more we win the easier it will be to schedule these games. However if nothing changes we are still in good shape. As was stated though, it should be possible to improve the buy games, SEMSU, Furman, and Miami are not much help.

[jack72]

St Louis loses to Wichita St 68-53.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[UDDoug]

VavVleet starting to get minutes again.
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[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by jack72 St Louis loses to Wichita St 68-53.

Sorry to see that. SLU got off to a good start this year, but this was their 3rd L in a row. Granted, WichSt with Van Vleet is a much better team than what showed up in Orlando, but still, that would have wound-up being a nice RPI boost for SLU and the A-10 by March.
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	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[Glen Clark]

Originally Posted by NCkevi I think overall UD does a good job scheduling but SEMO has been a poor RPI team for a while - need to avoid scheduling likely 200+ RPI teams!

Last year SEMO went 13-17, with an overtime loss to Murray State, a one point loss at Belmont, and a five point loss to Morehead State in the OVC first round,
Unfortunately, I don't see them getting 13 wins this season.

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[Alberto Strasse]

Davidson at North Carolina and Vanderbilt at Baylor today.

[UDDoug]

Originally Posted by T-Bone 84 Sorry to see that. SLU got off to a good start this year, but this was their 3rd L in a row. Granted, WichSt with Van Vleet is a much better team than what showed up in Orlando, but still, that would have wound-up being a nice RPI boost for SLU and the A-10 by March. Posted via Mobile Device

SLU has Jim Crews as head coach. He has a history of being a poor head coach. They will struggle till he is fired.
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	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[ruechalgrin]

VCU barely loses to Fl St. A-10 have lost a ton of close and important ones lately like GW barely falling to Cincy.

[Alberto Strasse]

Originally Posted by UDDoug SLU has Jim Crews as head coach. He has a history of being a poor head coach. They will struggle till he is fired. Posted via Mobile Device

is saying Jim Crews is hinting at retirement after this year. It may not be his decision.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[jack72]

On ESPNU NC is pounding Davidson with 7 to go in the first half, 33-18 NC is not a huge team, but Davidson is so small they barely can get shots off. NC not falling for all the picks.

[jack72]

47-24 NC at the half. Turning it off. Not as close as the score.

[udx2]

Originally Posted by jack72 47-24 NC at the half. Turning it off. Not as close as the score.

Turned it off as well, but watched when the Baylor/Vandy game came on later and Vandy will be out to prove something at home against the Flyers on Wednesday after dropping a close one in Waco against Baylor.

[jack72]

98-65 NC over Davidson. Cannot wait to get revenge on them at home.

[Medford]

Monday 12/7:

Western Illinois (+18) @ Iowa

[Gilchrist's Autograph 2]

Oklahoma destroys Nova 78-55. I guess it can happen to anybody.
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[frisco flyer]

This one barely matters but I was at the game so I'll post the score:
USC over Idahon74-55.

USC has some nice players, but they don't play team ball very well. I don't know very much about their coaching staff, but if they have good coaching, I think they will do well in the PAC12.

[jack72]

Iowa beats Western Il by 34. ESPN mouthpiece, on Sportscenter in reviewing the game, said, "Iowa is a good team with only two losses to good teams, Dayton and ND."

[CE80]

Originally Posted by frisco flyer This one barely matters but I was at the game so I'll post the score: USC over Idahon74-55. USC has some nice players, but they don't play team ball very well. I don't know very much about their coaching staff, but if they have good coaching, I think they will do well in the PAC12.

Doesn't Andy Enfield coach USC? He had that nice run with FGCU a few years ago.

[Medford]

Yes, Enfield is still at USC, hasn't really done much in his 2+ years out in LA.

[Medford]

Tuesday 12/8:

UMass (+2.5) @ Central Florida
Houston (+7.5) @ Rhody
Penn St (+11) @ GW
N. Iowa (-4.5) @ Mason
UMBC @ Duquesne
LIU-Brooklyn @ Fordham
Wright St (+21) @ Xavier
Princeton (+3.5) @ Saint Joes
Vermont @ Bonnies
Liberty @ Furman
Tennessee Wesleyan @ Chattanooga
Bowling Green @ SE Missouri St
Evansville (+2) @ Arkansas

Could (hopefully) shape up to be a good night, A10 has a reasonable shot at sweeping or having only 1 loss (UNI @ Mason looks like the most likely loss), while other than SE Missouri St, looks like the OOC foes should all win.

	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	St Bonaventure SAINT BONAVENTURE Founded in 1858, St. Bonaventure University is a liberal arts college located on 500 acres in southwestern New York state. SBU offers 43 undergraduate majors, the most popular of which are elementary education, journalism, psychology, accounting, marketing, finance, and management. Total undergraduate enrollment is 2,000. Virtually all freshmen and most undergraduates live on campus. A founding member of the A10 Conference. Famous athletes include Bob Lanier. Historical nickname was the Brown Indians, but later changed to the Bonnies. Their mascot is a wolf.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

	Fordham FORDHAM Fordham University is an independent Jesuit university established in 1841 as St. John's College on old Rose Hill Manor in the village of Fordham, then part of Westchester County in the Bronx, NY. The name Fordham is derived from the Anglo-Saxon words "ford" and "ham," meaning a wading place or ford by a settlement. Rose Hill is the name given to the site in 1787 by Robert Watts, a wealthy New York merchant, in honor of his family's ancestral home of the same name in Scotland. The College was originally staffed by diocesan clergy. The name was officially changed to Fordham University in 1907. Fordham's 10 schools enroll 14,448 students. There are 7,652 undergraduates, of whom 3,842 live in University-managed housing either on-campus or in the local community. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams. Athletic claim to fame is consistent mediocrity in nearly all sports and few A10 title winning programs.

	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

[Gilchrist's Autograph 2]

No real implications for UD, but the WV vs UVA game tonight will be very interesting. 2 really good teams with opposite styles.
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[DallasFlyer]

Originally Posted by Medford Yes, Enfield is still at USC, hasn't really done much in his 2+ years out in LA.

He has them playing well this year however. USC was pocked by many to finish in the bottom third of their conference. Looking more like a top third, on-the-bubble type team thus far.

[frisco flyer]

Originally Posted by DallasFlyer He has them playing well this year however. USC was pocked by many to finish in the bottom third of their conference. Looking more like a top third, on-the-bubble type team thus far.

I agree. I think they will probably be a bubble team.

[Glen Clark]

Originally Posted by Medford Tuesday 12/8: UMass (+2.5) @ Central Florida Houston (+7.5) @ Rhody Penn St (+11) @ GW N. Iowa (-4.5) @ Mason UMBC @ Duquesne LIU-Brooklyn @ Fordham Wright St (+21) @ Xavier Princeton (+3.5) @ Saint Joes Vermont @ Bonnies Liberty @ Furman Tennessee Wesleyan @ Chattanooga Bowling Green @ SE Missouri St Evansville (+2) @ Arkansas Could (hopefully) shape up to be a good night, A10 has a reasonable shot at sweeping or having only 1 loss (UNI @ Mason looks like the most likely loss), while other than SE Missouri St, looks like the OOC foes should all win.

Not too shabby:
A-10 goes 6-2
UMass (5-3) 63 @ UCF (4-3) 67
Houston (5-1) 57 @ RI (6-3) 67
Penn St (5-3) 66 @ GW (8-1) 76
N Iowa (6-2) 73 @ GM (4-6) 65
M-BC (2-8) 70 @ Duquesne (7-2) 89
LIU-Brooklyn (4-3) 84 @ Fordham (7-1) 89 (OT)
Vermont (4-6) 68 @ St Bona (6-2) 80
Princeton (4-2) 50 @ St Joes (6-2) 62

OOC opponents go 4-1
WSU (3-6) 55 @ #12 Xavier (9-0) 90
Liberty (3-7) 56 @ Furman (5-3) 79
Tenn Wesleyan (0-1) 63 @ Chattanooga 91 (6-2)
Evansville (7-2) 76 @ Arkansas (4-4)
Bowling Green (7-2) 79 @ SEMO (0-8) 52

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Whether your glass is half full or half empty, you still have more to drink

	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	St Bonaventure SAINT BONAVENTURE Founded in 1858, St. Bonaventure University is a liberal arts college located on 500 acres in southwestern New York state. SBU offers 43 undergraduate majors, the most popular of which are elementary education, journalism, psychology, accounting, marketing, finance, and management. Total undergraduate enrollment is 2,000. Virtually all freshmen and most undergraduates live on campus. A founding member of the A10 Conference. Famous athletes include Bob Lanier. Historical nickname was the Brown Indians, but later changed to the Bonnies. Their mascot is a wolf.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

	Fordham FORDHAM Fordham University is an independent Jesuit university established in 1841 as St. John's College on old Rose Hill Manor in the village of Fordham, then part of Westchester County in the Bronx, NY. The name Fordham is derived from the Anglo-Saxon words "ford" and "ham," meaning a wading place or ford by a settlement. Rose Hill is the name given to the site in 1787 by Robert Watts, a wealthy New York merchant, in honor of his family's ancestral home of the same name in Scotland. The College was originally staffed by diocesan clergy. The name was officially changed to Fordham University in 1907. Fordham's 10 schools enroll 14,448 students. There are 7,652 undergraduates, of whom 3,842 live in University-managed housing either on-campus or in the local community. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams. Athletic claim to fame is consistent mediocrity in nearly all sports and few A10 title winning programs.

	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

[moville]

I'll tell you, GW's for real if you already didn't know it. I went down to see the Penn State game tonight. The Nittany Lions were out-hustled, out-coached and sure didn't look like a Big Ten team. I'm guessing around 3,500 in the building. Was on the local channel. But even though I think it's finals week . . . student section didn't look to hold more than 400 kids. A shame. They are a terrific club.

[ruechalgrin]

Originally Posted by Glen Clark Not too shabby: A-10 goes 6-2 UMass (5-3) 63 @ UCF (4-3) 67 Houston (5-1) 57 @ RI (6-3) 67 Penn St (5-3) 66 @ GW (8-1) 76 N Iowa (6-2) 73 @ GM (4-6) 65 M-BC (2-8) 70 @ Duquesne (7-2) 89 LIU-Brooklyn (4-3) 84 @ Fordham (7-1) 89 (OT) Vermont (4-6) 68 @ St Bona (6-2) 80 Princeton (4-2) 50 @ St Joes (6-2) 62 OOC opponents go 4-1 WSU (3-6) 55 @ #12 Xavier (9-0) 90 Liberty (3-7) 56 @ Furman (5-3) 79 Tenn Wesleyan (0-1) 63 @ Chattanooga 91 (6-2) Evansville (7-2) 76 @ Arkansas (4-4) Bowling Green (7-2) 79 @ SEMO (0-8) 52 _____________________ Whether your glass is half full or half empty, you still have more to drink

Very good day, wish UMASS would have won leading with about a minute to play. 10-3 opponent record is great though.

	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	St Bonaventure SAINT BONAVENTURE Founded in 1858, St. Bonaventure University is a liberal arts college located on 500 acres in southwestern New York state. SBU offers 43 undergraduate majors, the most popular of which are elementary education, journalism, psychology, accounting, marketing, finance, and management. Total undergraduate enrollment is 2,000. Virtually all freshmen and most undergraduates live on campus. A founding member of the A10 Conference. Famous athletes include Bob Lanier. Historical nickname was the Brown Indians, but later changed to the Bonnies. Their mascot is a wolf.

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

	Fordham FORDHAM Fordham University is an independent Jesuit university established in 1841 as St. John's College on old Rose Hill Manor in the village of Fordham, then part of Westchester County in the Bronx, NY. The name Fordham is derived from the Anglo-Saxon words "ford" and "ham," meaning a wading place or ford by a settlement. Rose Hill is the name given to the site in 1787 by Robert Watts, a wealthy New York merchant, in honor of his family's ancestral home of the same name in Scotland. The College was originally staffed by diocesan clergy. The name was officially changed to Fordham University in 1907. Fordham's 10 schools enroll 14,448 students. There are 7,652 undergraduates, of whom 3,842 live in University-managed housing either on-campus or in the local community. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams. Athletic claim to fame is consistent mediocrity in nearly all sports and few A10 title winning programs.

	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

[Medford]

^^^ pretty much my thoughts exactly.

Our OOC opponents and the A10 avoided any upsets, picked up all the wins it "should have" but didn't pick up any surprises either. Of course, only UMass had a real shot of picking up a win they "shouldn't have" and given the history of the "A10 suck factor" you've got to be pleased with last night's performance.

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

[Medford]

Wednesday 12/9:

E. Washington vs Davidson (Gotham Classic)

for a Wednesday night, its a pretty slow night, hoops wise, I imagine many schools are in Exam week, which perhaps explains it????

BC is scheduled to play at Providence, haven't heard if that one will go off or not. If you are not aware, BC was hit by the Chipotle bug (allegedly), like 8, maybe 10 guys IIRC.

[ud2]

The BC/Providence game is being played as normally scheduled, all of the BC guys got better apparently.

[ruechalgrin]

Originally Posted by Medford ^^^ pretty much my thoughts exactly. Our OOC opponents and the A10 avoided any upsets, picked up all the wins it "should have" but didn't pick up any surprises either. Of course, only UMass had a real shot of picking up a win they "shouldn't have" and given the history of the "A10 suck factor" you've got to be pleased with last night's performance.

To date, A-10 has had a much better OOC then 2014-2015, but not as good as 2013-2014.

Top 100 A-10 has 11 wins and 22 losses, but if you take out UD's 4-1, it is 7-21.
Top 50 A-10 has 4 wins and 15 losses, but if you take out UD's 2-1, it is 2-14.
Top 25 A-10 has 1 win and 9 losses, but if you take out UD's 1-1, it is 0-8.

Good news for RPI is teams like Fordham have feasted on bad opponents. But really only UD and GW with quality wins (Dayton with 2 top 50 and GW with 2 top 50). VCU, Davidson, and Richmond have zero top 50 wins right now which are needed to get into the NCAA.

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	Fordham FORDHAM Fordham University is an independent Jesuit university established in 1841 as St. John's College on old Rose Hill Manor in the village of Fordham, then part of Westchester County in the Bronx, NY. The name Fordham is derived from the Anglo-Saxon words "ford" and "ham," meaning a wading place or ford by a settlement. Rose Hill is the name given to the site in 1787 by Robert Watts, a wealthy New York merchant, in honor of his family's ancestral home of the same name in Scotland. The College was originally staffed by diocesan clergy. The name was officially changed to Fordham University in 1907. Fordham's 10 schools enroll 14,448 students. There are 7,652 undergraduates, of whom 3,842 live in University-managed housing either on-campus or in the local community. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams. Athletic claim to fame is consistent mediocrity in nearly all sports and few A10 title winning programs.

[frisco flyer]

Originally Posted by ruechalgrin To date, A-10 has had a much better OOC then 2014-2015, but not as good as 2013-2014. Top 100 A-10 has 11 wins and 22 losses, but if you take out UD's 4-1, it is 7-21. Top 50 A-10 has 4 wins and 15 losses, but if you take out UD's 2-1, it is 2-14. Top 25 A-10 has 1 win and 9 losses, but if you take out UD's 1-1, it is 0-8. Good news for RPI is teams like Fordham have feasted on bad opponents. But really only UD and GW with quality wins (Dayton with 2 top 50 and GW with 2 top 50). VCU, Davidson, and Richmond have zero top 50 wins right now which are needed to get into the NCAA.

Anyone knows why is Davidson ranked in the Top10 in the RPI?
Good for them and the A10, but puzzling.

[ud69]

Originally Posted by frisco flyer Anyone knows why is Davidson ranked in the Top10 in the RPI? Good for them and the A10, but puzzling.

If you take a look at the UDPride RPI you can see why. Under the RPI Level 2 column you see they are ranked tenth of everybody. Level 2 reflects your opponents results, it is also your strength of schedule (SOS), and also accounts for 50% of a team's RPI. In a nutshell they have played the 10th toughest schedule and only lost once. Of course, they have only played 5 D-1 games - the other game being D-III Denison which does not count for RPI purposes. They play a fairly weak 3-3 Eastern Washington team at home tonight (RPI 270) - and will most assuredly drop win or lose.

http://www.udpride.com/images/rpi.htm

[priceg75]

Illinois 69 v. Yale 65

- Illinois comes from behind late to beat Yale. Illinois is not very good.

SIU Edwardsville 76 @ So. Illinois 74

- The real SIU was 8-1 coming into this, and SIU-E was 1-7. This might be the upset of the night.

Davidson 96 v. EWU 86
Wichita St. 56 v. UNLV 50

- Shockers back on track with Van Vleet returning.

Milwaukee 68 @ Wisconsin 67

- Bo Ryan suffering through one last season, UW with 4 losses already.

[priceg75]

Iowa at #4 Iowa State tonight on ESPN2. Only real game of note.

[Glen Clark]

Originally Posted by priceg75 Illinois 69 v. Yale 65 - Illinois comes from behind late to beat Yale. Illinois is not very good. SIU Edwardsville 76 @ So. Illinois 74 - The real SIU was 8-1 coming into this, and SIU-E was 1-7. This might be the upset of the night. Davidson 96 v. EWU 86 Wichita St. 56 v. UNLV 50 - Shockers back on track with Van Vleet returning. Milwaukee 68 @ Wisconsin 67 - Bo Ryan suffering through one last season, UW with 4 losses already.

Elsewhere in the Big10, Minnesota is 0-2 against the state of South Dakota (and - with a narrow win over Omaha - 1-2 vs the Summit League):
http://espn.go.com/ncb/recap?gameId=400839347

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[anthonycharles]

Originally Posted by priceg75 Iowa at #4 Iowa State tonight on ESPN2. Only real game of note.

Iowa up 11 midway thru the 1st half. C'mon Hawkeyes!!

[Lifelong Flyer Fan]

IOWA UP 25-14 11:42 IN THE 1ST
Go Hawkeyes

[Lifelong Flyer Fan]

35-19 7:03

[NorthwestFlyer]

Bad news for Bama. What a shame for Dazon. They were starting to click.

http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bask...fractured-foot

[anthonycharles]

Uthoff has 27 pts and it's not even half yet. Iowa up 16 with 2 minutes left in the 1st half.

[udx2]

Uthoff is 11 of 13 in the first half and 5 of 6 from the 3. Would love it if Iowa takes down no. 4 Iowa State.

[Lifelong Flyer Fan]

Hawkeyes up 14 at the half, now up 65-48 14:39

[ud69]

Originally Posted by udx2 Uthoff is 11 of 13 in the first half and 5 of 6 from the 3. Would love it if Iowa takes down no. 4 Iowa State.

Not a lot of defense, but it sure is fun to watch. 65-51 Iowa with 14:00 left.

[31770]

Rooting hard for Iowa to hold off state, and i know it's a rivalry game, but sweet baby jebus is states crowed wild n crazy like nothing i've seen! It's like the entire lower bowl is camron crazies!

[Glen Clark]

83-82 Iowa State

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[31770]

Originally Posted by Glen Clark 83-82 Iowa State _____________________ Whether your glass is half full or half empty, you still have more to drink

Iowa lost that game themselves, but iowa state is definitely a great team and deserves their #4 spot. Would have been an awesome rpi boost if iowa got the scalp

[maddog07]

An epic choke by Iowa. Coach should be shot.
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[UDDoug]

Originally Posted by 31770 Iowa lost that game themselves, but iowa state is definitely a great team and deserves their #4 spot. Would have been an awesome rpi boost if iowa got the scalp

The RPI really doesn't work that way. The only impact on the RPI is Iowa having one more win and one less loss.

If the W or L means Iowa is or isn't in the top 25 or top 50 of the RPI it impacts the resume on selection Sunday.

[ud2]

Originally Posted by UDDoug The RPI really doesn't work that way. The only impact on the RPI is Iowa having one more win and one less loss. If the W or L means Iowa is or isn't in the top 25 or top 50 of the RPI it impacts the resume on selection Sunday.

It would have helped the sos.

[ruechalgrin]

Big thing is could barely keep Iowa out of top 25 or 50 at the end of the year.

[Medford]

As noted, Iowa blew a game they had in hand. At one point Utoff had 20 points, Iowa St had 30 points as a team. They choked away the final few minutes.

Friday 12/11:
nothing, only a few games, non all that interesting.

[Medford]

Saturday 12/12:

Duquesne @ St Francis
Ole Miss @ SE Missouri St (??? did Ole miss really take this as a road game, or is this an exempt tourny that I'm not thinking of?)
Mason @ James Madison
Rutgers @ GW
#23 Cincy @ #12 Xavier
Longwood @ Richmond
W Carolina @ Davidson
Tenn Tech @ Arkansas
Alabama A&M @ St Louis
#25 Utah @ Wichita St (is WSU healthy again? Van Fleet is back. A Utah Loss, combined with a UD victory on Saturday could help them into the top 25)

	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	Richmond UNIVERSITY OF RICHMOND Founded in 1830, the private liberal arts university in the Commonwealth boasts 2,800 students in 57 majors within its picturesque 350-acre campus. The Robins School of Business is one of the Top-20 business schools in the country. Nickname is the Spiders and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	Duquesne DUQUESNE Duquesne University is a private, coeducational university, in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania located on 48 secluded acres, on a bluff above downtown. Founded in 1878 as a Catholic college by the Order of the Holy Spirit. It is the only Spiritan institution of higher education in the world. Duquesne offers 10 schools of study and 100 degree programs to 6,000 undergraduates and 3,800 graduate students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Dukes.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[Medford]

Sunday 12/13:

Coppin St @ Fordham
UMass @ Florida Gulf Coast
Wright St @ Miami (seriously, they scheduled that one opposite Bengals-steelers, good luck getting people to show up at Millat)
Rhody @ Nebraska
Saint Joes @ Temple
LaSalle @ Nova
Bama @ Clemson

	Temple TEMPLE UNIVERSITY Founded in 1884 by Dr. Russell Conwell, Temple College became Temple University in 1907. Located in Philadelphia, Temple is a comprehensive public research university with 34,000 students, 8 campuses, and 300 academic degree programs. Notable alumni include Bill Cosby and Daryl Hall. Temple's nickname is the Owls and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

	Fordham FORDHAM Fordham University is an independent Jesuit university established in 1841 as St. John's College on old Rose Hill Manor in the village of Fordham, then part of Westchester County in the Bronx, NY. The name Fordham is derived from the Anglo-Saxon words "ford" and "ham," meaning a wading place or ford by a settlement. Rose Hill is the name given to the site in 1787 by Robert Watts, a wealthy New York merchant, in honor of his family's ancestral home of the same name in Scotland. The College was originally staffed by diocesan clergy. The name was officially changed to Fordham University in 1907. Fordham's 10 schools enroll 14,448 students. There are 7,652 undergraduates, of whom 3,842 live in University-managed housing either on-campus or in the local community. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams. Athletic claim to fame is consistent mediocrity in nearly all sports and few A10 title winning programs.

	LaSalle LA SALLE In 1863, La Salle University was established through the legacy of St. John Baptist de La Salle and the Christian Brothers teaching order, which De La Salle founded 300 years ago. Located in Philadelphia, La Salle is an educational community shaped by traditional Catholic and Lasallian values. La Salle's main campus is an ideal place for students to pursue an education. The 130-acre park-like setting includes 54 buildings and is located approximately six miles from Center City Philadelphia. The University can accommodate 2,114 resident students in its 12 residence halls, two apartment complexes, and 75 townhouses. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Explorers. Notable athletes include Tom Gola and Lionel Simmons.

[Glen Clark]

Originally Posted by Medford Saturday 12/12 . . . Ole Miss @ SE Missouri St (??? did Ole miss really take this as a road game, or is this an exempt tourny that I'm not thinking of?) . . .

Good question - doesn't look like an exempt game. There doesn't seem to be any local ties to the Ole Miss roster . . . maybe Ole Miss is looking for an easy road win, though a win over SEMO anywhere is hardly a resume builder.

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[flyerfanatic86]

Originally Posted by Medford Sunday 12/13: Wright St @ Miami (seriously, they scheduled that one opposite Bengals-steelers, good luck getting people to show up at Millat)

If Miami scheduled around when fans would show up, they would never play a home game.

Except maybe against us, because we show up.

[UD62]

Originally Posted by flyerfanatic86 If Miami scheduled around when fans would show up, they would never play a home game. Except maybe against us, because we show up.

Red Hawks suck at everything except hockey. Playing them in roundball is a waste of time and rpi.

[UDDoug]

Originally Posted by ud2 It would have helped the sos.

Because Iowa record would be better. As one of 30 plus opponents it doesn't matter that much. By the end of the year the ROI effect of a 21-10 Iowa vs a 20-11 Iowa is minimal. It most matters if that loss keeps Iowa out of RPI top 25 or 50.
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[NCkevi]

Originally Posted by UDDoug The RPI really doesn't work that way. The only impact on the RPI is Iowa having one more win and one less loss. If the W or L means Iowa is or isn't in the top 25 or top 50 of the RPI it impacts the resume on selection Sunday.

Though not a direct impact on RPI the lose may get into their heads as opposed to being a confidence builder. If UD loses their opener to IPFW a couple of years ago I wonder if we even make the NCAA tournament let alone an Elite Eight run

[Flyer 86]

Originally Posted by UD62 Red Hawks suck at everything except hockey. Playing them in roundball is a waste of time and rpi.

YEP, an old rivalry. Time to move past it.

Please!

[ud69]

Bama gets a late bucket to win at Clemson - 51-50. Tide has now won 4 in a row- including Wichita State, Notre Dame, and Clemson. Only losses to us and _avier.

They are still very much offensively challenged. However, after seeing them at the arena, would not have expected their success to date.

Our opponents are doing really really well.

	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

[THirt]

Originally Posted by ud69 Bama gets a late bucket to win at Clemson - 51-50. Tide has now won 4 in a row- including Wichita State, Notre Dame, and Clemson. Only losses to us and _avier. They are still very much offensively challenged. However, after seeing them at the arena, would not have expected their success to date. Our opponents are doing really really well.

I actually watched the last 45 seconds or so of the Bama-Clemson game. Clemson was up 1, with the ball, and with about 30 sec to go and 9 on the shot clock called timeout. Bama stole the inbounds pass and went in for a dunk at the other end, Clemson missed, ball got batted around, and actually was tipped into the shot clock by a Clemson player - Bama ball. They got fouled with 1 sec to go and missed the front end but a full court heave by Clemson was no good. But Bama has bounced back very nicely. I'm already excited to play at their place next year.

UTC was #17 in the RPI before today and I think Bama was #40.
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	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

[ud2]

St. Joe's beats Temple in OT by 1 at SJU...SJU's rpi is in the 70's, Temple in the 150's...Fran Dunphy may be on the hot seat: he has not made the NCAA tournament the last two years in a row.


Rhode Island falls by 3 at Nebraska, 70-67.

UMass falls by 1 at Florida Gulf Coast, 77-76.

	Temple TEMPLE UNIVERSITY Founded in 1884 by Dr. Russell Conwell, Temple College became Temple University in 1907. Located in Philadelphia, Temple is a comprehensive public research university with 34,000 students, 8 campuses, and 300 academic degree programs. Notable alumni include Bill Cosby and Daryl Hall. Temple's nickname is the Owls and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

	St Joseph's ST. JOSEPH'S Founded by the Society of Jesus in 1851, Saint Joseph's University advances the professional and personal ambitions of men and women by providing a demanding, yet supportive educational experience. One of only 139 schools nationwide with a Phi Beta Kappa chapter and AACSB business school accreditation, Saint Joseph's is home to 4,200 full-time undergraduates and 3,100 graduate, part-time and doctoral candidates. Located in urban Philadelphia, SJU is a fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Hawks. Athletic claim to fame is is the Hawk mascot, a university student on full scholarship who wears a Hawk uniform and flaps his wings continuously for an entire athletic event. School spirit slogan is "The Hawk Will Never Die."

[priceg75]

Couple other scores that weren't already mentioned:

Villanova 76 v. LaSalle 47
Fordham 92 v. Coppin St. 55
Monmouth 73 v. Wagner 54

No opponents are playing tonight.

	Fordham FORDHAM Fordham University is an independent Jesuit university established in 1841 as St. John's College on old Rose Hill Manor in the village of Fordham, then part of Westchester County in the Bronx, NY. The name Fordham is derived from the Anglo-Saxon words "ford" and "ham," meaning a wading place or ford by a settlement. Rose Hill is the name given to the site in 1787 by Robert Watts, a wealthy New York merchant, in honor of his family's ancestral home of the same name in Scotland. The College was originally staffed by diocesan clergy. The name was officially changed to Fordham University in 1907. Fordham's 10 schools enroll 14,448 students. There are 7,652 undergraduates, of whom 3,842 live in University-managed housing either on-campus or in the local community. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams. Athletic claim to fame is consistent mediocrity in nearly all sports and few A10 title winning programs.

	LaSalle LA SALLE In 1863, La Salle University was established through the legacy of St. John Baptist de La Salle and the Christian Brothers teaching order, which De La Salle founded 300 years ago. Located in Philadelphia, La Salle is an educational community shaped by traditional Catholic and Lasallian values. La Salle's main campus is an ideal place for students to pursue an education. The 130-acre park-like setting includes 54 buildings and is located approximately six miles from Center City Philadelphia. The University can accommodate 2,114 resident students in its 12 residence halls, two apartment complexes, and 75 townhouses. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Explorers. Notable athletes include Tom Gola and Lionel Simmons.

[ud69]

Monmouth up 12 at half at Georgetown
Chattanooga up 19 middle of second half at home against 7-3 Tennessee Tech
Redskins er RedHawks down 3 middle of second half at home to Jackson State

[udx2]

Monmouth getting respect from the announcers and looking good against the Hoyas. Got to admit that I am becoming a Monmouth fan.

[THirt]

Originally Posted by priceg75 Couple other scores that weren't already mentioned: Villanova 76 v. LaSalle 47 Fordham 92 v. Coppin St. 55 Monmouth 73 v. Wagner 54 No opponents are playing tonight.

North Florida did beat Florida International yesterday, hitting on 16 3's in their 94-72 victory to improve to 8-4.
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	Fordham FORDHAM Fordham University is an independent Jesuit university established in 1841 as St. John's College on old Rose Hill Manor in the village of Fordham, then part of Westchester County in the Bronx, NY. The name Fordham is derived from the Anglo-Saxon words "ford" and "ham," meaning a wading place or ford by a settlement. Rose Hill is the name given to the site in 1787 by Robert Watts, a wealthy New York merchant, in honor of his family's ancestral home of the same name in Scotland. The College was originally staffed by diocesan clergy. The name was officially changed to Fordham University in 1907. Fordham's 10 schools enroll 14,448 students. There are 7,652 undergraduates, of whom 3,842 live in University-managed housing either on-campus or in the local community. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams. Athletic claim to fame is consistent mediocrity in nearly all sports and few A10 title winning programs.

	LaSalle LA SALLE In 1863, La Salle University was established through the legacy of St. John Baptist de La Salle and the Christian Brothers teaching order, which De La Salle founded 300 years ago. Located in Philadelphia, La Salle is an educational community shaped by traditional Catholic and Lasallian values. La Salle's main campus is an ideal place for students to pursue an education. The 130-acre park-like setting includes 54 buildings and is located approximately six miles from Center City Philadelphia. The University can accommodate 2,114 resident students in its 12 residence halls, two apartment complexes, and 75 townhouses. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Explorers. Notable athletes include Tom Gola and Lionel Simmons.

[ud69]

Chattanooga wins by 11 at home against Tennessee State
RedHawks win by 11 at home over Jackson State
Monmouth wins by 15 at Georgetown

Monmouth now has wins at UCLA, over Notre Dame in Orlando, over USC in Orlando, and a win at Georgetown - plus a very close loss to us in Orlando. Maybe folks will finally take this team seriously.

[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by ud69 Chattanooga wins by 11 at home against Tennessee State RedHawks win by 11 at home over Jackson State Monmouth wins by 15 at Georgetown Monmouth now has wins at UCLA, over Notre Dame in Orlando, over USC in Orlando, and a win at Georgetown - plus a very close loss to us in Orlando. Maybe folks will finally take this team seriously.

They keep this up, and they may not have much to worry about on Selection Sunday.
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[longtimefan67]

Originally Posted by ud69 Chattanooga wins by 11 at home against Tennessee State RedHawks win by 11 at home over Jackson State Monmouth wins by 15 at Georgetown Monmouth now has wins at UCLA, over Notre Dame in Orlando, over USC in Orlando, and a win at Georgetown - plus a very close loss to us in Orlando. Maybe folks will finally take this team seriously.

I think all UD Priders take Monmouth seriously - it's those theatre clowns on the bench we don't ...
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