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Old 12-30-2012, 09:18 PM
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Wow no way that basket counts
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these refs have no business officiating games outside of recreation leagues
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These referees are horrible
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I forgot, better free throw shooting in CYO as well.
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Old 12-30-2012, 09:19 PM
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We shouldn't be scheduling games like this - it makes no sense to travel half way across the country to play a bad Pac-10 team. it's a game that won't help us but could hurt us if we're a bubble team
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Old 12-30-2012, 09:21 PM
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We shouldn't be scheduling games like this - it makes no sense to travel half way across the country to play a bad Pac-10 team. it's a game that won't help us but could hurt us if we're a bubble team
Options are limited if you want home and away with BCS teams
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Any decent team blows out this lousy USC team..
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Old 12-30-2012, 09:24 PM
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Going to be a loooooooooooooooong year...
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Old 12-30-2012, 09:24 PM
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Did JB just go up for an uncontested O rebound with one weak-ass hand.....and blow it...WTF
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i'd rather schedule a creighton or northern iowa over this USC team. we lose this one...put the nail in our NCAA hopes outside of a miracle run in the A-10
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Missed foul shots!!!!!
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Old 12-30-2012, 09:25 PM
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Wow Benson. How many times have I said that today. Missed shot missed rebound... weak, weak, weak
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Did JB just go up for an uncontested O rebound with one weak-ass hand.....and blow it...WTF
that he did
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Old 12-30-2012, 09:26 PM
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wow...need a 3...who do we go to? put matty D in try to get him coming off a screen?
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Old 12-30-2012, 09:26 PM
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Make both and foul on the inbounds.
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Old 12-30-2012, 09:27 PM
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Originally Posted by frisco flyer View Post
Options are limited if you want home and away with BCS teams
Lots of quality non-BCS teams out there - losing to, or even beating, a BCS team with a bad RPI is worthless if not deadly to post season hopes
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Old 12-30-2012, 09:27 PM
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Benson is sooooooooooooooooooft.
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Old 12-30-2012, 09:29 PM
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missed free throws earlier in the game...ahhh coming back to haunt us now
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Can't we get though the non-con portion of the schedule without a bad loss?
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terrible terrible loss....NIT here we come
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Old 12-30-2012, 09:31 PM
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what the heck was Benson doing. Letting the ball hit the floor. Team played stupid for 45 minutes and certainly deserved to lose (officiating aside).
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Why did we not call the time out?
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Old 12-30-2012, 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by NCkevi View Post
Can't we get though the non-con portion of the schedule without a bad loss?
Under BG no problem. But then we all know how it went in A-10 play.

Relax, there's a long way to go.
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Bad loss.

The women lost their first game today.

Bad day for UD.

Let's look forward to better games in the New Year.
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Missed foul shots!!!
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Gotta figure out how to win close games. 3 of our losses are by a combined 4 points. Killin' us...
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Old 12-30-2012, 09:32 PM
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Terrible team, terrible effort, terrible IQ, soft players, bad bad bad loss against a pitiful freaking' team.I watch Butler, I watch X, I watch VCU, I watch Gonzaga, and then there is lil ol Dayton.
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Our leading scorer in the game is 1 for 10, that is sad.

By the way why once again is Matt not in for the last shot??
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Originally Posted by FlyerFanatic08 View Post
missed free throws earlier in the game...ahhh coming back to haunt us now
Missed free throws and awful turnovers at that critical moment when they had a chance to take the lead at about the 8 minute mark. This is another bad loss; I don't care what the RPI worshipers think!!
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terrible terrible loss....NIT here we come
We are squarely on the NIT bubble at this point of the season.
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what the heck was Benson doing. Letting the ball hit the floor. Team played stupid for 45 minutes and certainly deserved to lose (officiating aside).
Nothing wrong with letting the ball hit the floor. Clock does not start until someone touches it.
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Terrible team, terrible effort, terrible IQ, soft players, bad bad bad loss against a pitiful freaking' team.I watch Butler, I watch X, I watch VCU, I watch Gonzaga, and then there is lil ol Dayton.
Dude, go root for someone else then... by the way, X has gone beastmode this year lol
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terrible offense. Flyers shot 72 from the line. It was too many bad shots and dumb passes. And it was the upper classmen leading the barrage
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Gotta figure out how to win close games. 3 of our losses are by a combined 4 points. Killin' us...
A lot of this is coaching folks...sorry to say.
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Originally Posted by Flyer_Tom View Post
We are squarely on the NIT bubble at this point of the season.
this is true...but i always lean back to we'll do just enough..and the NIT would want us anyways since we bring fans...which is all that tourney is about at this point
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Under BG no problem. But then we all know how it went in A-10 play.

Relax, there's a long way to go.
...as the losses pile up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by Flyer_Tom View Post
A lot of this is coaching folks...sorry to say.
What should he have done different?
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That's now 3 games we had a chance to win on last possession and couldn't make the play. We really played bad and actually deserved to lose. Our bigs were horrible and weren't tough enough.
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Arch did not have this team ready to play, and then in OT he did not light their fire.
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it was a game the Flyers should have won by double figures but there was no patience amd poor decisions on offense. As I have been saying all year they have too many guys that can't play thru contact. Bang em and they will fall down, lose the ball, miss the shot, etc.
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Terrible team, terrible effort, terrible IQ, soft players, bad bad bad loss against a pitiful freaking' team.I watch Butler, I watch X, I watch VCU, I watch Gonzaga, and then there is lil ol Dayton.
X is horrible. They lost at home to something called Wofford. Please don't put UD in their category.
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Can't we get though the non-con portion of the schedule without a bad loss?
Not until there is a better team, better players and a better program. This is all the better UD is. Way too soft.
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Two games now with a chance to win at the end and our best outside shooter is on the bench.
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Under BG no problem. But then we all know how it went in A-10 play.

Relax, there's a long way to go.
We're 2 games away from the season being half over and we should be getting better - instead we've played one of our worst games of the year. I hope we do turn it around but I've seen nothing that would tempt me to lay money we'll finish in the top half of the A10
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they are the anti-Butler. Butlers main asset is that they play with a ton of physical toughness on both sides of the ball. Not great talent or athletes but great toughness. UD plays with no physical toughness.
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We're 2 games away from the season being half over and we should be getting better - instead we've played one of our worst games of the year. I hope we do turn it around but I've seen nothing that would tempt me to lay money we'll finish in the top half of the A10
Where were you after the last game? Selective commenting? LMAO.
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35% from the floor, 15% from 3. I had hoped these kind of nights were a thing of the past. Seniors have to lead you on the road by being tough minded, and singularly focused. Dillard still is a vacant jersey on D, and Benson is about as soft as they get up front. The Flyers will have to make it happen in conference if they expect any kind of post season action.
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X is horrible. They lost at home to something called Wofford. Please don't put UD in their category.
What makes you so sure USC is better than Wofford?
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Any word on why MD didn't play? He still ill?
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Teams play games where they miss shots, etc. What bothers me is not that they shot 35% but they took so many forced shots. It is the lack of basketball IQ and toughness on this night that bothers.
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they are the anti-Butler. Butlers main asset is that they play with a ton of physical toughness on both sides of the ball. Not great talent or athletes but great toughness. UD plays with no physical toughness.
They space just about perfectly, know their roles on the team, and don't make mental errors.
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What makes you so sure USC is better than Wofford?
agreed NCkevi ... wofford about 60 better RPI than USC (150 vs 210):
http://realtimerpi.com/rpi_Men.html

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Nothing wrong with letting the ball hit the floor. Clock does not start until someone touches it.
But the defense is hustling down court while the ball is dancing. The clock is one problem, beating the defense down court is another. That extra second gave USC's defense the advantage.
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Any word on why MD didn't play? He still ill?
MD played Tom, just sparingly
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Any word on why MD didn't play? He still ill?
He was in the game at times but he seemed to be struggling defensively with that big lineup that USC had.
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But the defense is hustling down court while the ball is dancing. The clock is one problem, beating the defense down court is another. That extra second gave USC's defense the advantage.
The defense was already down court. USC had nobody on the line.
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Where were you after the last game? Selective commenting? LMAO.
If you can't challenge the comment, challenge the commenter, LMAO

On the other hand, that appeared to be a good win and like everyone else I thought/hoped we had come around and were making progress - since then we lost to a terrible USC team that won't win 10 games, Murray State lost at home to Valpo, so maybe they're not as good as we thought, and our other 'signature' win, Alabama, has lost 5 of 6 including at home to Mercer
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If you can't challenge the comment, challenge the commenter, LMAO

On the other hand, that appeared to be a good win and like everyone else I thought/hoped we had come around and were making progress - since then we lost to a terrible USC team that won't win 10 games, Murray State lost at home to Valpo, so maybe they're not as good as we thought, and our other 'signature' win, Alabama, has lost 5 of 6 including at home to Mercer
True! Why don't we just end the season today then. UD has no chance in conference play, right? Don't panic NC. UD will be fine. Arch is a good coach and these guys will put it together when it counts. I just hope you don't disappear when that happens, ya know??

Hey, your boy finally won an A-10 game when his GT team beat up on Fordham! Hahaha. I kid.

Relax pal. It's one game. Loooooong way to go.
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" we lost to a terrible USC team that won't win 10 games, Murray State lost at home to Valpo, so maybe they're not as good as we thought, and our other 'signature' win, Alabama, has lost 5 of 6 including at home to Mercer"


and i think Illinois state lost too. (sad face)
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What makes you so sure USC is better than Wofford?
You aren't thinking clearly. Take a deep breath bra.
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" we lost to a terrible USC team that won't win 10 games, Murray State lost at home to Valpo, so maybe they're not as good as we thought, and our other 'signature' win, Alabama, has lost 5 of 6 including at home to Mercer"


and i think Illinois state lost too. (sad face)
Hey, give us some credit. Teams just aren't the same after they play us.
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Arch did not have this team ready to play, and then in OT he did not light their fire.
What the hell does that even mean??????? Were you in the lockerroom?
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True! Why don't we just end the season today then. UD has no chance in conference play, right? Don't panic NC. UD will be fine. Arch is a good coach and these guys will put it together when it counts. I just hope you don't disappear when that happens, ya know??
I always root for UD regardless of how they play or who the coach is, unlike some people - read my comment again " I hope we do turn it around but I've seen nothing that would tempt me to lay money we'll finish in the top half of the A10." My point is that this team hasn't shown at the half way point of the season that they have what it takes to compete in the A10 this year. It seems after taking a step forward they take 2 steps back. To make a run in the A10 they're going to have to realize their successes in the last game won't translate to an automatic win the next game - following wins against Butler and xavier with losses to LsSalle and UMass won't get you a NCAA bid


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You aren't thinking clearly. Take a deep breath bra.
All because a team has USC, Auburn, Mississippi State or DePaul on their jersey, doesn't mean they're automatically better than a team from a non-BCS conference - Wofford will probably finish with a better RPI that USC

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Wofford is about 1 pt better than USC on a neutral ct. but we played them away and I am assuming that X played Wofford at home. Thats an 8.5 pt swing according to Sagarins calculations. All that aside we should have beaten them.
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Hey, your boy finally won an A-10 game when his GT team beat up on Fordham! Hahaha. I kid.
A Fordham transfer just buried Archie's team in OT, did he not?

Anyhow, attacking our former coach makes no sense after a loss like this. How are the two related? Isn't there another way to try and raise your spirits?

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Well, that was ugly. USC isn't as bad as it's record would make it, but we let that one get away; our shooting was poor and our turnovers...ugh. Now, part of that may have been the problems with flying across country, part of it may have been rust and part of it could have been p*ss poor reffing. KD's back may also have been acting up (a long plane flight with a bad back is no fun), so we should show a little forbearance on his performance (1-10 FG with 4 TOs) last night; the kid is a trouper, IMHO. USC plays a very physical game and it seemed the refs swallowed their whistles last night...one of the problems with playing on the road. Now, it's also possible we're just not as good as we all think, but this team has potential to excel, we'll only know once we get further into the season...all is not lost, so let's not get too down with this loss.
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Originally Posted by Fudd View Post
A Fordham transfer just buried Archie's team in OT, did he not?

Anyhow, attacking our former coach makes no sense after a loss like this. How are the two related? Isn't there another way to try and raise your spirits?
My spirits are great. I love UD but I also realize there are way more important things in life than a UD win or loss! Been to war and have seen real life stuff, so this is nothing. Trust me.

Fordham transfer, yes. Fordham, no. Not to mention, he probably transferred because of how bad they are! I bet any A-10 team would take the big kid Fordham has on the roster, but not many would take over the program, no?? That's what I thought.

Cheer up Fudd. UD will be fine. It's only one game.

Also, I said "I kid" at the end of my statement. But I guess you missed that haha.
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Old 12-31-2012, 07:38 PM
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Originally Posted by dnutz77 View Post
My spirits are great. I love UD but I also realize there are way more important things in life than a UD win or loss! Been to war and have seen real life stuff, so this is nothing. Trust me.

Fordham transfer, yes. Fordham, no. Not to mention, he probably transferred because of how bad they are! I bet any A-10 team would take the big kid Fordham has on the roster, but not many would take over the program, no?? That's what I thought.

Cheer up Fudd. UD will be fine. It's only one game.

Also, I said "I kid" at the end of my statement. But I guess you missed that haha.
I'm not suprised or disappointed in the least by the results yesterday. This team is playing exactly as I expect them to. I'm not sure what military service has to do with any of that. Another strange tangent.

My reaction is only stirred by your odd strategy for deflecting of AM criticism by references to BG. I, personally, don't have much criticism to direct at AM at this point (with the exception of a weaker defense than I am used to seeing at UD), but can understand why some are disturbed by some of the things they have seen so far. Referring to BG's mediocre conference performances after a narrow road non-conf loss to a low-end BCS team makes it feel like you are reaching for something....some way to deflect.

"Look over there! Don't criticize what is going on in front of your face."

That's what your reaction looks like to me. Even though I don't have a "lol" or a use a "bra", you are going to have to trust in my pleasant disposition while typing this message homey.

Fudz out!
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Originally Posted by dnutz77 View Post
True! Why don't we just end the season today then. UD has no chance in conference play, right? Don't panic NC. UD will be fine. Arch is a good coach and these guys will put it together when it counts. I just hope you don't disappear when that happens, ya know?? . . . Relax pal. It's one game. Loooooong way to go.
How much longer until "it counts"?
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