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Old 02-24-2019, 08:18 AM
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Free Throws...Glass Half Full

I think we were all holding our breath yesterday at the end when we couldn’t seem to make two free throws in a row and that was with just about everyone getting a shot at it. We need to get that turned around sooner rather than later. But I noticed something a couple weeks ago...we seem to be getting to the line more than our opponents. Granted we have such a short bench we just can’t foul. But I remeber the days not too long ago (AM era) when we would come out of some games with 5 free throw attempts. Sometimes we would have zero attempts in a half. We seem to be drawing fouls and yesterday it helped us win the game when they had to sit players. Making 15% more of these shots would really help.
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Old 02-24-2019, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by BeckysTXA View Post
I think we were all holding our breath yesterday at the end when we couldn’t seem to make two free throws in a row and that was with just about everyone getting a shot at it. We need to get that turned around sooner rather than later. But I noticed something a couple weeks ago...we seem to be getting to the line more than our opponents. Granted we have such a short bench we just can’t foul. But I remeber the days not too long ago (AM era) when we would come out of some games with 5 free throw attempts. Sometimes we would have zero attempts in a half. We seem to be drawing fouls and yesterday it helped us win the game when they had to sit players. Making 15% more of these shots would really help.
We are shooting 67.9% as a team this year. I believe I saw a stat that as a team, the last 50 years, we have shot 68.1%. We are pretty close to what we have been the last 50 years.
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Old 02-24-2019, 10:48 AM
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We are shooting 67.9% as a team this year. I believe I saw a stat that as a team, the last 50 years, we have shot 68.1%. We are pretty close to what we have been the last 50 years.
That’s an interesting statistic. I don’t think, historically, we’ve ever been considered a great free-throw shooting team. I’d be curious as to how many times, if ever, we’ve cracked the 70 percent threshold as a team. Maybe a time or two back in the Donoher years? I wonder if Figgie might have those stats?
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We are getting the ball to Obi and Josh much more, and teams are fouling them to stop their scoring. Yesterday 10 of 20 total free throws by Obi and Josh, Davidson 18 of 26, VCU 8 of 18. The results have been those two have made 26 of 36 in the last three games, or 72%, which is okay.
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Originally Posted by BeckysTXA View Post
I think we were all holding our breath yesterday at the end when we couldn’t seem to make two free throws in a row and that was with just about everyone getting a shot at it. We need to get that turned around sooner rather than later. But I noticed something a couple weeks ago...we seem to be getting to the line more than our opponents. Granted we have such a short bench we just can’t foul. But I remeber the days not too long ago (AM era) when we would come out of some games with 5 free throw attempts. Sometimes we would have zero attempts in a half. We seem to be drawing fouls and yesterday it helped us win the game when they had to sit players. Making 15% more of these shots would really help.
Your memory of the AM era must be clouded somewhat. Every one of Archie's teams averaged more free throws per game than this year's, or even last year's, team(s). By a wide margin, actually. Below are the averages going back to Archie's first team, as well as this year and last year, along with our make percentage.

2018/2019 - 17.7 per game 68%
2017/2018 - 17.1 per game 73%
2016/2017 - 24.1 per game 68.9%
2015/2016 - 22.8 per game 67.3%
2014/2015 - 23.9 per game 68%
2013/2014 - 22.7 per game 68.1%
2012/2013 - 21.2 per game 71.7%
2011/2012 - 18.9 per game 77.8%

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Old 02-24-2019, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by SLUFLYER View Post
Your memory of the AM era must be clouded somewhat. Everyone of Archie's teams averaged more free throws per game that this year's, or even last year's, team(s). By a wide margin, actually. Below are the averages going back to Archie's first team, as well as this year and last year, along with our make percentage.

2018/2019 - 17.7 per game 68%
2017/2018 - 171. per game 73%
2016/2017 - 24.1 per game 68.9%
2015/2016 - 22.8 per game 67.3%
2014/2015 - 23.9 per game 68%
2013/2014 - 22.7 per game 68.1%
2012/2013 - 21.2 per game 71.7%
2011/2012 - 18.9 per game 77.8%
I absolutely stand corrected based on season stats. What I do remember is discussions on here people pointing out we weren’t getting to the free throw line enough. And I remember some terrible halves where we did not shoot many - or missed a ton of the front end and didn’t get the second one.

But based on the above, it appears for the seasons the averages caught up with us and we did ok for the season. Thanks.
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Old 02-24-2019, 01:14 PM
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Originally Posted by SLUFLYER View Post
Your memory of the AM era must be clouded somewhat. Everyone of Archie's teams averaged more free throws per game that this year's, or even last year's, team(s). By a wide margin, actually. Below are the averages going back to Archie's first team, as well as this year and last year, along with our make percentage.

2018/2019 - 17.7 per game 68%
2017/2018 - 171. per game 73%
2016/2017 - 24.1 per game 68.9%
2015/2016 - 22.8 per game 67.3%
2014/2015 - 23.9 per game 68%
2013/2014 - 22.7 per game 68.1%
2012/2013 - 21.2 per game 71.7%
2011/2012 - 18.9 per game 77.8%
I think one reason for the decline in free throws is the fact that we don't do a lot of dribble penetration. Scoochie and Charles were better at creating their own lane to the hoop and they spent a lot of time at the free throw line.
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Originally Posted by The Fly View Post
That’s an interesting statistic. I don’t think, historically, we’ve ever been considered a great free-throw shooting team. I’d be curious as to how many times, if ever, we’ve cracked the 70 percent threshold as a team. Maybe a time or two back in the Donoher years? I wonder if Figgie might have those stats?
IF? This one is a no brainer.

In 70 years of free throw stats, going to the 1949-50 season, there have been 26 years we did 70% or better. Last year at 73.1% is 10th all time, while Archie's first year in 2011-12, at 77.6% is #1 on the list. That team had Chris Johnson at 84.8%, Paul Williams at 83.1%, Kevin Dillard at 82.7%, Kavanaugh at 80.7%, Parker at 77.3% and Oliver at 74.1%. Hard to pick one to foul at the end of a game.
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Originally Posted by SLUFLYER View Post
Your memory of the AM era must be clouded somewhat. Every one of Archie's teams averaged more free throws per game than this year's, or even last year's, team(s). By a wide margin, actually. Below are the averages going back to Archie's first team, as well as this year and last year, along with our make percentage.

2018/2019 - 17.7 per game 68%
2017/2018 - 17.1 per game 73%
2016/2017 - 24.1 per game 68.9%
2015/2016 - 22.8 per game 67.3%
2014/2015 - 23.9 per game 68%
2013/2014 - 22.7 per game 68.1%
2012/2013 - 21.2 per game 71.7%
2011/2012 - 18.9 per game 77.8%
In the last 70 years, last year and this year are ranked 68th and 67th, respectively, in terms of highest average free throws attempted in a game. 1992-93 we averaged 14.1 FTAs, and in 2005-06 we averaged 16.77.

The top 10 season for free throw attempts were all 1970 and earlier. #11 on the list, though, is 1997-98 with 25.5 FTA per game.
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I tried to find the historical average free throws per game for all NCAA Division 1 games but couldn't. I was curious to see if there was a significant change before and after the 86/87 season when the 3 pt field goal was introduced.
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3-pt shooting

I agree totally that improved FT shooting would add several wins to our total every season. But without checking statistics for each game I think it's more important that we improve in two other areas: 3-pt shooting and interior defense. When we shoot well from outside we win, when we don't we lose. In most, maybe all our losses we give up way too many points in the paint. I hope the influx of three new big men next season will help correct the defensive deficiency inside and I also hope that if we are able to add another player to next season's roster, it will be a reliable outside shooter. Getting team FT % up to 72-73% or more as a team would be icing on the cake.
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I'd rather drive the lane every possession. Shooting threes at 40% (which would be an amazing team percentage) = 1.2 points per possession not factoring in offensive rebounds.

Drive the lane, you can:

Score two points (2.0 ppp)
Kick it out for a wide open three with the shooter set and facing the hoop (~1.4 ppp)
Get an and one (2.7 ppp)
Shoot two FTs (1.4 ppp)
Miss everything (turnover, missed/blocked shot) (0 ppp)
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I'd rather drive the lane every possession. Shooting threes at 40% (which would be an amazing team percentage) = 1.2 points per possession not factoring in offensive rebounds.

Drive the lane, you can:

Score two points (2.0 ppp)
Kick it out for a wide open three with the shooter set and facing the hoop (~1.4 ppp)
Get an and one (2.7 ppp)
Shoot two FTs (1.4 ppp)
Miss everything (turnover, missed/blocked shot) (0 ppp)
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No disagreement whatsoever....so long as we have a PG who can drive successfully practically every time wo making a TO, and against zones. But kicking it out for a trey requires at least one reliable (consistent) 3-pt shooter. I'd like two or three reliable and consistent 3-pt experts, not just one (particularly if that one is the one who drove and is under the basket when the ball gets kicked out). Ergo...my desire for another reliable/consistent 3-pt ace for next year's team. AND I still want an interior defense that can stop the other team from getting 35 points in the paint.
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Top 5 seasons for FT accuracy:


11-12 77.8%
82-83 77.3%
78-79 76.0%
85-86 73.9%
79-80 73.8%
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I tried to find the historical average free throws per game for all NCAA Division 1 games but couldn't. I was curious to see if there was a significant change before and after the 86/87 season when the 3 pt field goal was introduced.
The big difference came about when the NCAA created the “common foul”, where teams simply inbound the ball on the first 6 fouls in each half that aren’t flagrant, intentional, in the act of shooting, etc. Not sure exactly when that change went into effect, but it was probably right around 1970.
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Top 5 seasons for FT accuracy:


11-12 77.8%
82-83 77.3%
78-79 76.0%
85-86 73.9%
79-80 73.8%
And the W-L records these years was:
11-12 20-13 NIT
82-83 18-10
78-79 19-10 NIT
85-86 17-12
79-80 13-14
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I'm not sure of Dayton's record in 85-86, but I know they went to the NIT, losing to McNeese St.
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I'm not sure of Dayton's record in 85-86, but I know they went to the NIT, losing to McNeese St.
17-13. I remember that because my godmother (a longtime face in alumni relations) died on the eve of the Canisius game on Valentine’s Day weekend, and after that, they only won 1 more game all season. I often wondered if that was because she was no longer in the stands with her rosary beads at the ready.
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FT rate is a much better indicator of success than FT% as pointed out by Don.
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