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Old 10-17-2008, 09:27 AM
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Those of you willing to make the trade off for more away games must consider the following: it might not work.

Everyone is talking about this like it's a formula and all we need to do is solve for "y".

Example: we set out on a 5-year plan to play 2-3 more road games against big name schools. We succeed. But, as would be predicted by simple statistics, we win a very limited number of those games.

5 years from now we look back and tally the results. We got a game or 2 on ESPN2. We still haven't won an NCAA tournament game. And we've given up 2-3 games x $?? in revenue. We gained nothing and gave up much.

Teams that make this tradeoff get 2,000 people for home games. Nothing to lose.

So while I support taking more risks with our schedule, let's all just remember that the administration must consider the possibility that it won't work. We're a private institution not a receiver of public funds.
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Old 10-17-2008, 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Gazoo View Post
Those of you willing to make the trade off for more away games must consider the following: it might not work.

Everyone is talking about this like it's a formula and all we need to do is solve for "y".

Example: we set out on a 5-year plan to play 2-3 more road games against big name schools. We succeed. But, as would be predicted by simple statistics, we win a very limited number of those games.

5 years from now we look back and tally the results. We got a game or 2 on ESPN2. We still haven't won an NCAA tournament game. And we've given up 2-3 games x $?? in revenue. We gained nothing and gave up much.

Teams that make this tradeoff get 2,000 people for home games. Nothing to lose.

So while I support taking more risks with our schedule, let's all just remember that the administration must consider the possibility that it won't work. We're a private institution not a receiver of public funds.
And that was my problem with answering the 3 questions proposed as the sacrifices may not generate anything in return. If nothing positive happens in return, where are we then? Right back to the status quo.

With my previous question regarding the amount of home games being towards the top in the country. Quantity vs. Quality. What drives that? $$$$$ Not the desires of fans and supporters.
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Old 10-17-2008, 04:15 PM
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Saying that we are at the top of the heap with 10 home games doesn't really tell the whole story. Two of those games are tournament games which we wouldn't ordinarily have. Let's look at how many road/neutral games teams have. We have 5. Some teams not playing in a pre-conference tournament who only have 13 non-con games could have only 9 home games but they would then have only 4 road/neutral games, so we could still have more road/neutral games than many teams. But I still would have been happy with 9/6.
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Saying that we are at the top of the heap with 10 home games doesn't really tell the whole story. Two of those games are tournament games which we wouldn't ordinarily have.
But they would have scheduled somebody in place of that. They would have had those two games regardless. Someone in America would have been looking to fill a schedule if we hadn't been invited to the tourney.

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Old 10-17-2008, 11:14 PM
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Originally Posted by shocka43 View Post
But they would have scheduled somebody in place of that. They would have had those two games regardless. Someone in America would have been looking to fill a schedule if we hadn't been invited to the tourney.
That is not true. If we had not been in the tourney we would not have had 10 home games - maybe 9 (with 4 road/neutral), but not 10.
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Old 10-18-2008, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by longtimefan View Post
That is not true. If we had not been in the tourney we would not have had 10 home games - maybe 9 (with 4 road/neutral), but not 10.
Let's hope thats the case. If not, they may see the checking account swell up a bit and get ideas for next year....Quantity vs. Quality.
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Old 10-20-2008, 08:00 AM
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There are a few reasons to believe it would be the case:

The Chicago tourney is an exempt event, so not all games count against the schedule limit.
There have been very few years with fewer than 4 road / neutral conference games.
UD doesn't get the same gate from the Chicago "home" games as regular home games. The event promoter gets a sizable amount of the proceeds.
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