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Old 10-18-2018, 01:31 PM
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1-and-Done G-League $125k option

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http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2...one-route-ncaa

"As part of a newly formed professional path starting in the summer of 2019, the G League will offer "Select Contracts" worth $125,000 to elite prospects who are at least 18 years old but not yet eligible for the NBA draft. It will target recent or would-be high school graduates who otherwise would have likely spent just one season playing college basketball, enticing them not only with a six-figure salary but also the opportunity to benefit from NBA infrastructure, as well as a bevy of off-court development programs "geared towards facilitating and accelerating their transition to the pro game,..." "

This will be interesting and may level the playing field for everyone.
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http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2...one-route-ncaa

"As part of a newly formed professional path starting in the summer of 2019, the G League will offer "Select Contracts" worth $125,000 to elite prospects who are at least 18 years old but not yet eligible for the NBA draft. It will target recent or would-be high school graduates who otherwise would have likely spent just one season playing college basketball, enticing them not only with a six-figure salary but also the opportunity to benefit from NBA infrastructure, as well as a bevy of off-court development programs "geared towards facilitating and accelerating their transition to the pro game,..." "

This will be interesting and may level the playing field for everyone.
It will harm the Kentucky's and and Duke's of the world.
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Not really, it will harm others, because the next best will now be going to Duke and Kentucky, leaving another level down with fewer players who may previously have been passed over the elite basketball schools.
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Not really, it will harm others, because the next best will now be going to Duke and Kentucky, leaving another level down with fewer players who may previously have been passed over the elite basketball schools.

I see that argument, but the further down the list you get the more muddled it becomes. How often do the top 5 recruits not live up to expectations.... probably a lot less than the top 30 guys.
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Not really, it will harm others, because the next best will now be going to Duke and Kentucky, leaving another level down with fewer players who may previously have been passed over the elite basketball schools.
I think you're right about who it hurts, but I think the best will still prefer the Duke and Kentucky route. They are going to get great coaching, better exposure, and better amenities than they will in the G League. The next tier of players might be the ones that start looking at this option, and that would hurt the schools that would normally go after those players.
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What will be interesting to watch is what happens when the ones that opt for the $125k, don't get big bucks the next year and see those that went for at least a year of college, get drafted higher and make bigger bucks.
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ehh.. you'll see it cut both ways. Kids that were "elite" and their flaws are discovered in the G-league, and guys that were "overlooked" that shine under a season with coach K and find themselves in the lottery.


Overall, more of the G-League types will make the lottery than those that forgo the G-league, "blow up" and make the lottery.


Honestly, it won't take long before there is the kid a rung or two down, with no interest in school saying "hey, I'll play for $60K a year in the G-league" and suing their way for an opportunity there. The quicker the NBA, and therefor the NCAA switches to a baseball style setup, the better for all. Kids who don't want to be in school can make some money trying to develop into an NBA player, those that see the value will spend 3 or 4 seasons in college before hoping to get a shot at the NBA.
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I bet LaVar is not happy...

I guess this is a major blow to the BBB League.

https://jbaleague.com/

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I guess this is a major blow to the BBB League.

https://jbaleague.com/


And that makes me happy. I know it shouldn't, but it does.
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Maybe Kentucky, Duke, et al will outbid the G League. Lol
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I don't think that the "hurt" gets passed down. Yes, the power schools may not end up with the one and done players, but they will still end up with top players in the country that are recycled less often. You get a 2-3 year player versus a one and done.

The few players that this affords and opportunity to will not shift the table that much. A mid-major ball player doesn't suddenly get that power school offer. Yes, maybe a few dozen players across the country get their stock bumped up, but I agree that it levels it more than it punishes the mid-major schools that possibly lose out.

Players with aspirations of money will follow the money. One and done players are only one and done to get a paycheck the following year. They don't care about a legacy left with UK or UNC. They are only participating in their mandated year of college ball. They aren't getting degrees, attending classes for anything outside of the first semester and minimums to stay eligible, etc. They will take the 125k and develop their game in front of the NBA coaches and staff.

What this does is force the UK's of the world to act like the majority of college basketball fans and have players that stick around for more than one year.
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I think you have to factor in the recruiting cycle. This top players commit to top programs early. This ties up scholarships and takes those coaches out of recruiting that year. Then these top players get to be HS seniors and the NBA comes calling. Some will back out of commitments to universities and leave those HCs scrambling to find players to fill open scholarships.

I think this will happen at bigger schools way more often than at mid-majors. And thus I feel it will level the playing field some. I don’t see players telling mid- majors, “you’re my second choice, but there might be an opening at my first choice if the NBA picks off one of their recruits, so I’m going to wait and see.”
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I don't think that the "hurt" gets passed down. Yes, the power schools may not end up with the one and done players, but they will still end up with top players in the country that are recycled less often. You get a 2-3 year player versus a one and done.

The few players that this affords and opportunity to will not shift the table that much. A mid-major ball player doesn't suddenly get that power school offer. Yes, maybe a few dozen players across the country get their stock bumped up, but I agree that it levels it more than it punishes the mid-major schools that possibly lose out.

Players with aspirations of money will follow the money. One and done players are only one and done to get a paycheck the following year. They don't care about a legacy left with UK or UNC. They are only participating in their mandated year of college ball. They aren't getting degrees, attending classes for anything outside of the first semester and minimums to stay eligible, etc. They will take the 125k and develop their game in front of the NBA coaches and staff.

What this does is force the UK's of the world to act like the majority of college basketball fans and have players that stick around for more than one year.
On further reflection, I see two things.

1. It will have a trickle-down effect on the smaller schools
2. That trickle-down may be negated by increased transfers, as guys who maybe expected a player to leave after a year or two stays longer, impacting an incoming players expectations for playing time. Given there's a finite number of minutes in a game, some players may opt to transfer out.

We'll see if it happens and what the net result is.
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The delta between the top ten players and the next ten is greater than the delta between the next ten and third ten. The talent curve has a steep slope when it gets to the one and done that will benefit from the G League special deal. The blue bloods will still get very talented kids who are likely (probably) better than the mid majors. However, the difference is not nearly as great as when the Dukes and Kentuckys get the one and dones.
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I guess, to me, that the issue isn't the actual one and dones that will be in play here. It's the fringe players who are being told they are one and dones. It will be interesting to see how many kids actually take this route just to not have to go through the song and dance that is a year in college.
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I would love to see college basketball return to kids playing basketball. Let the pros go pro. Gimme Loyola and teams like them playing their hearts out.



I don't tune in to see Kobe vs. Lebron. I'll turn on the NBA for that (actually I won't). I don't care that the kids are a couple inches shorter or a step slower. I want to enjoy the journey of watching them develop for a couple of years.
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Good article on the Athlete (behind the pay wall) stating some of the major problems why this may not work. Will NBA teams let their G team put extra work into a guy that some other team will draft? Most G teams have little strength and training facilities, and nothing compared to college teams. Travel is mainly by bus.
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Good article on the Athlete (behind the pay wall) stating some of the major problems why this may not work. Will NBA teams let their G team put extra work into a guy that some other team will draft? Most G teams have little strength and training facilities, and nothing compared to college teams. Travel is mainly by bus.
Sounds like a low-mid-major program.

Iím pretty sure they will also get housing and insurance. Currently G-league players get around $71;000 plus housing and insurance. But I also think itís only for 5 months. I know the salary is prorated by games. So they give everyone a bedroom in an apartment or house. The kids (because thatís what they will be coming out of high school) get about $5,000 a week - $3500 after taxes. Most will want to buy a new car. That will take a chunk out of their cash. But they can hoop all day and night and not have to go to class. There will be takers.
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I'm sure some enterprising alumnus will be able to top that offer of $125,000, and siphon off some of the one and dones
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Sounds like a low-mid-major program.

I’m pretty sure they will also get housing and insurance. Currently G-league players get around $71;000 plus housing and insurance. But I also think it’s only for 5 months. I know the salary is prorated by games. So they give everyone a bedroom in an apartment or house. The kids (because that’s what they will be coming out of high school) get about $5,000 a week - $3500 after taxes. Most will want to buy a new car. That will take a chunk out of their cash. But they can hoop all day and night and not have to go to class. There will be takers.
The last time I checked a year or 2 ago, I thought that the G League max salary was around $40,000 per year plus meals and housing. Can't remember about insurance.

The average salary might be around $30-35k maybe I thought.

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All G League players earn 1 of 2 salaries: $19k per season or $26,500 per season.

The max was just increased to $35k per season though for this year.

Players with 2-way contracts can earn significantly more.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sour...k4A65IWx39lskm:

G League salaries are going up next season, to $35,000 for most players and up to $385,000 for those on two-way contracts.

Salaries also can be enhanced through bonuses and call-ups. NBA teams called up 50 players a total of 60 times last season, generating just over $11 million in additional salary.

Two-way players next season will earn up to $77,250, topped on days where they're called up by the prorated NBA rookie salary.


https://www.si.com/nba/2017/02/14/nb...lver-takeaways:



Although details on two-way contracts have not been announced, itís expected that two-way players, while assigned to G-League teams, will earn pro-rated pay based on an annual salary worth somewhere between $50,00 and $75,000.

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The other thing pointed out by the Athlete is that a few of the highest potential guys will get some decent shoe and endorsement contracts worth several hundred thousand.
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$35K with no need to pay for food or housing or insurance, and no real need for a car, would be a decent start for an 18 year old kid to practice hoops all day long. But only if all of that is provided.

If you went to Kentucky, you would have to pay for. . . actually it's the same deal you just have to go to school.
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$35K with no need to pay for food or housing or insurance, and no real need for a car, would be a decent start for an 18 year old kid to practice hoops all day long. But only if all of that is provided.

If you went to Kentucky, you would have to pay for. . . actually it's the same deal you just have to go to school.
For the first semester....
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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...w-Balance.html

Another option for the elite high school basketball players.

Former Syracuse recruit Darius Bazley, who opted to forgo college to work toward the 2019 NBA draft, has landed a job as an intern for New Balance - and it could pay anywhere from $1 million to $14 million.
The New York Times reports the 18-year-old Bazley signed in May with agent Rich Paul, who arranged for the 6-foot-9 forward from Cincinnati to work for the athletic equipment company for the first three months of 2019.
Paul, who also has LeBron James, John Wall and Ben Simmons among his NBA clients, told the newspaper the internship is part of a multiyear shoe contract that will pay Bazley at least $1 million and up to $14 million if Bazley reaches performance incentives written into the contract.
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