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UMass Game Thread
Big Game! Bring the effort that we had against X and we'll be just fine.
Starting Lineup:
G 3 Chaz Williams 5’9” 175 JR Brooklyn, NY
G 23 Freddie Riley 6’5” 190 SR Ocala, FL
F 33 Terrell Vinson 6’7” 220 SR Baltimore, MD
F 22 Sampson Carter 6’8” 220 SR Baton Rouge, LA
C 25 Cady Lalanne 6’9” 250 SO Orlando, FL
Go Flyers!
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Who Guards Chaz Williams?
He is the straw that stirs their drink. He is a great player that UD must neutraize with defense. With UD's best on ball defender not playing this is a problem for the Flyers today.
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02-23-2013, 12:24 PM
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Are there any online links to watch the game at all?
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Originally Posted by FlyerE
Are there any online links to watch the game at all?
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Go to the "Links" link at the top of UDPride and go to the A10 Forum. At the top there is a Video Link thread. The first post in that thread may have one that works.
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02-23-2013, 12:49 PM
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Khari looked like he was dressed, but was not involved at all in the 30 minute before gametime shoot around. Just slowly pacing around the half court line.
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We need this one in a bad way.
Go get it Flyers, this game is very winnable!
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Finally, KD hits a 3 and we are on the board, 7 - 3.
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Slow start...predictable.
7-3 UMASS at first T/O
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gotta love Benson matador D dumb shots and TOs
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No one blocking out and Umass getting easy buckets underneath
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flyer getting killed on the glass. UMas ha 3 stickbacks in the first 8 minutes
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Jalen needs to stop taking these outside shots.
He does it more often than he should
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Rebounding?
10-4 UMass
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02-23-2013, 01:23 PM
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Practice?
Someone needs to tell us just what it is that UD works on in practice. I really doesn't seem to carry over to the games on the road.
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Good, Alex can't be any worse.
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Chaz
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Maybe I was wrong!
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Our bigs not getting it done so far today
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Dunk you very much, Vee!
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Our guards are active on defense today. They took the ball right out the Umass players' hands three times already.
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Getting beat up on the boards.
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Vee with 10 points so far.
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Flyers hanging around down by 1 with 4 left 28-27
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KD has been in the whole game. Hope his legs can get through the second 1/2.
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At the half, 37 - 31 UMass.
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really can't see the Flyers coming back. There is no toughness on defense and that translates to an L
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I am "watching" game through Gametracker. Except for Sanford, is anyone playing to win? Seems like UM getting everyone of their offense rebounds.
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Remember how we were all happy to see Fordham & Duquesne come to town after a losing streak? That's how UMASS looked at us today.
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02-23-2013, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Sea Bass
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It isn't even the defense in this game so far we have 6 stl's and they have 8 to's. The shooting and lack of blocking out is doing it. UD-14 rbs and UMass-22
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Benson found some offense.
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our defense problem is all inside......AG is only one who uses his body.
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dillard meltdown and the Flyers go from tied to down 8. Pass the **** ball Kevin
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My feed keeps freezing, so I can't really appreciate how bad it is. Probably a good thing.
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Dillard takes two bad shots that are blocked and result in dunks on the other end. KD refuses to pass and move and instead plays 1 on 2 or 3
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Server reject on the feed. Looks like the party's over.
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52-51 Flyers!
Vee dunks!
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KD to the bench and Flyers go on a 9-0. Sanford defends the perimeter as KD has been matador the entire game
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KD on the bench and the Flyers on a 9-0 run. Derenbecker is on fire and I know this will make some on this board mad, but Benson is bringing it the 2nd half.
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9-0 run with kd out.
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Matt hits 2 and Vee adds one to counter the UMass 8 - 0 run. Our 9 - 0 run puts us up 52 - 51.
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Feed working fine for me still
I just turned it on, 9-0 Flyers run is all I have seen.
What is all the complaining about?
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Originally Posted by Viperstick
Server reject on the feed. Looks like the party's over.
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It died for me, so I closed out and re-opened it and it is fine now.
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Benson and MattD off the bench have held us in there so far
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Score? Time?
Score and time left, please.
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52-51 11:30 to go
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KD doesn't even try to get over a screen and it costs the Flyers a three
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KDs poor defense is causing the switch and mismatch ... and gets him another well earned seat on the bench
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60-59 UD at the under 8 timeout
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I would be all for playing Vonerhaar the rest of the year and losing out.
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KD back in and throws away a pass
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KD loses the ball and then fouls....where's his head?
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When did KD become Warren Williams?
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60 - 60 with 6 to go.
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KD another dumb TO and back to the bench
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Crunch time. Does anyone have any confidence we can pull this one out?
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So I am watching on gametracker and every score by umass is dunk or layup. Unreal
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64-62 UMass 3:34 and UMass foul shots coming after the timeout
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Originally Posted by Bill McPeek
Crunch time. Does anyone have any confidence we can pull this one out?
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I do.
Even a blind squirrel gets a nut!
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Originally Posted by frisco flyer
I do.
Even a blind squirrel gets a nut!
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I don't. Blind squirrels usually get run over in traffic.
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Originally Posted by Bill McPeek
Crunch time. Does anyone have any confidence we can pull this one out?
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Absolutely.
May come down to the last possession. What are we, 1 - 7 in close games? We are due.
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last two possessions for UMass offensive rebounds and foul shots. No toughness as Lalane completely dominating
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Crunch time. Does anyone have any confidence we can pull this one out?
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This is "winning time" for the good teams. So to answer your question, no.
Jalen plays like he is 6'4 instead of 6'9 many times. It's very frustrating. He needs to learn to play bigger.
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Ballgame.
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No. You can't win late without toughness. And I don't think you can with Dillard playing point.
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Maybe we can dominate a conference where we only have to play Duquesne, SBU, and Fordham...or maybe we'll continue to be a middling disappointment year after year.
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02-23-2013, 02:58 PM
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put a fork in 'em. Not sure I have ever watched worse effort on defense than KD today.
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02-23-2013, 02:59 PM
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williams is a far superior player to Dillard. He didn't force a single bad shot AND he defends.
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Originally Posted by Sea Bass
60-59 UD at the under 8 timeout
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35 seconds left and they're down 76-66--horrible
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02-23-2013, 03:01 PM
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Originally Posted by VirgM
6 points in 8 minutes
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Yup - outscored 17-6 in last eight minutes!
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KD takes to much grief on this board.
I can't imagine how bad we would be without him.
Yes, he turns it over but who else on this team would be better for 38 minutes? You have your head in the sand if you do not realize that
90% OF THIS TEAMS PROBLEM IS LACK OF OFFENSE AND DEFENSE BY OUR BIG MEN. PERIOD. END OF DISCUSSION. You can put all the blame you want
on KD but it is not fair.
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02-23-2013, 03:04 PM
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Bet they are the worst team in the A10 if you go by "return on invesmentt dollars"
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Originally Posted by Piqua Flyer '66
KD takes to much grief on this board.
I can't imagine how bad we would be without him.
Yes, he turns it over but who else on this team would be better for 38 minutes? You have your head in the sand if you do not realize that
90% OF THIS TEAMS PROBLEM IS LACK OF OFFENSE AND DEFENSE BY OUR BIG MEN. PERIOD. END OF DISCUSSION. You can put all the blame you want
on KD but it is not fair.
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You do have to wonder if having a healthy Khari Price would have made a difference in any of the losses.
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02-23-2013, 03:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Piqua Flyer '66
KD takes to much grief on this board.
I can't imagine how bad we would be without him.
Yes, he turns it over but who else on this team would be better for 38 minutes? You have your head in the sand if you do not realize that
90% OF THIS TEAMS PROBLEM IS LACK OF OFFENSE AND DEFENSE BY OUR BIG MEN. PERIOD. END OF DISCUSSION. You can put all the blame you want
on KD but it is not fair.
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KD went to the bench down 51-43 at 12 minutes. In less than two minutes Flyers went on a 9-0 run. Vee defended Williams without a switch and the ball moved and lanes to attack appeared. KD likely had a -20 in this one, the Flyers were clearly better when he was on the bench in this one. Ball moved on offense, no switch on defense.
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UM too big and STRONG inside and too quick and fast outside. I was surprised that the line was UD getting 2 1/2 to 3 - I thought more like 8. Oh well.
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The reason for the rebounds today had a lot to do with the switching. Big on Williams, Williams penetrated, defense rotates to help and loses blockouts. The bigs lack toughness but the lack of ability to guard the ball by KD killed them today. He never once fought over a screen he just walked into it and then would stop and stand by the big, the UD big was forced to switch because there was no choice. KD has skills but his defensive effort was abysmal in a game where the leaders needed to fight and claw to win, KD rolled over and wanted someone to rub his belly.
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02-23-2013, 03:14 PM
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Any one know why Devon Scott didn't play today? Could have used his inside presence
and toughness since we were getting outrebounded.
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02-23-2013, 03:23 PM
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Devon started and played 4-5 minutes in the first half. IIRC, Jalen played the entire 2nd half until the last minute.
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