UDPride Discussion Forums    
     

Go Back   UDPride Discussion Forums > UDPRIDE SPORTS FORUMS > Mens Basketball

» Log in
User Name:

Password:

Not a member yet?
Register Now!
» Advertisement
Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 06-14-2018, 10:01 AM
coachmh coachmh is offline
Just off the Jet
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 8
Thanks: 2
Thanked 15 Times in 3 Posts
coachmh will become famous soon enoughcoachmh will become famous soon enough
New assistant coach

Men's assistant basketball coach job is posted on the university's employment site.
Reply With Quote
Mad Props to coachmh For This Totally Excellent Post:
Flyer 86 (06-14-2018)
Advertisement
  #2  
Old 06-14-2018, 10:16 AM
ud2's Avatar
ud2 ud2 is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 11,548
Thanks: 4,069
Thanked 3,270 Times in 2,158 Posts
ud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond repute
I clicked on the Iowa State job posting, but it says that the posting is not available.


https://hoopdirt.com/job/assistant-m...ch-iowa-state/

https://www.iastatejobs.com/postings/33519

https://www.iastatejobs.com/postings

Last edited by ud2; 06-14-2018 at 10:30 AM..
Reply With Quote
Mad Props to ud2 For This Totally Excellent Post:
jack72 (06-14-2018)
  #3  
Old 06-14-2018, 10:18 AM
lhsgolf19's Avatar
lhsgolf19 lhsgolf19 is offline
General
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Suburbs of Detroit
Posts: 5,391
Thanks: 191
Thanked 5,227 Times in 1,371 Posts
lhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond repute
Would be a tough loss but I trust Coach Grant in finding a great replacement
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 06-14-2018, 12:49 PM
TXFlyerFan TXFlyerFan is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 871
Thanks: 634
Thanked 637 Times in 307 Posts
TXFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeTXFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeTXFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeTXFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeTXFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeTXFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeTXFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeTXFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeTXFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeTXFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeTXFlyerFan has a reputation beyond repute
Dang...couldn't we have kept Kane and let Solomon go to Iowa State
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 06-14-2018, 01:36 PM
Alberto Strasse's Avatar
Alberto Strasse Alberto Strasse is offline
Brigadier General
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Miamisburg OH
Posts: 2,522
Thanks: 1,462
Thanked 1,429 Times in 708 Posts
Alberto Strasse has a reputation beyond reputeAlberto Strasse has a reputation beyond reputeAlberto Strasse has a reputation beyond reputeAlberto Strasse has a reputation beyond reputeAlberto Strasse has a reputation beyond reputeAlberto Strasse has a reputation beyond reputeAlberto Strasse has a reputation beyond reputeAlberto Strasse has a reputation beyond reputeAlberto Strasse has a reputation beyond reputeAlberto Strasse has a reputation beyond reputeAlberto Strasse has a reputation beyond repute
Many Surprises

with this coaching staff.
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 06-14-2018, 05:10 PM
OSU Flyer's Avatar
OSU Flyer OSU Flyer is offline
Brigadier General
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,675
Thanks: 995
Thanked 1,634 Times in 945 Posts
OSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond repute
this is a total disaster
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 06-14-2018, 05:22 PM
lhsgolf19's Avatar
lhsgolf19 lhsgolf19 is offline
General
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Suburbs of Detroit
Posts: 5,391
Thanks: 191
Thanked 5,227 Times in 1,371 Posts
lhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by OSU Flyer View Post
this is a total disaster
Huh? No it's not lol... Take a deep breath ha
Reply With Quote
2 UDPriders Offer Mad Props to lhsgolf19 For This Totally Excellent Post:
Flyer 86 (06-15-2018), MNFats (06-15-2018)
  #8  
Old 06-14-2018, 05:49 PM
OSU Flyer's Avatar
OSU Flyer OSU Flyer is offline
Brigadier General
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,675
Thanks: 995
Thanked 1,634 Times in 945 Posts
OSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by lhsgolf19 View Post
Huh? No it's not lol... Take a deep breath ha
Isn't this a huge setback with all the guys we're in on in the South heading into the July live period
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 06-14-2018, 06:49 PM
lhsgolf19's Avatar
lhsgolf19 lhsgolf19 is offline
General
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Suburbs of Detroit
Posts: 5,391
Thanks: 191
Thanked 5,227 Times in 1,371 Posts
lhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by OSU Flyer View Post
Isn't this a huge setback with all the guys we're in on in the South heading into the July live period
If you look at, we have only offered 3 kids from Florida for 2019... Diante Smith, likely going to a "Big" School... Kai Jones is blowing up so will probably be tough to land him and some one named Toumani Camara

1 Guy from Kentucky, Dontaie Allen but not sure if that is Kane's area.

We'll be alright... Coach Grant will find a very good replacement
Reply With Quote
Mad Props to lhsgolf19 For This Totally Excellent Post:
Flyer 86 (06-15-2018)
  #10  
Old 06-14-2018, 08:12 PM
TXFlyerFan TXFlyerFan is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 871
Thanks: 634
Thanked 637 Times in 307 Posts
TXFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeTXFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeTXFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeTXFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeTXFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeTXFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeTXFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeTXFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeTXFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeTXFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeTXFlyerFan has a reputation beyond repute
Who was recruiting Kira Lewis Jr I wonder
Reply With Quote
Mad Props to TXFlyerFan For This Totally Excellent Post:
Flyer 86 (06-15-2018)
  #11  
Old 06-14-2018, 09:25 PM
OSU Flyer's Avatar
OSU Flyer OSU Flyer is offline
Brigadier General
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,675
Thanks: 995
Thanked 1,634 Times in 945 Posts
OSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond repute
My understanding from Twitter is that everyone from Kentucky south to Florida is Kane
Reply With Quote
Mad Props to OSU Flyer For This Totally Excellent Post:
TXFlyerFan (06-14-2018)
  #12  
Old 06-14-2018, 09:58 PM
DallasFlyer's Avatar
DallasFlyer DallasFlyer is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 3,738
Thanks: 630
Thanked 3,516 Times in 1,589 Posts
DallasFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeDallasFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeDallasFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeDallasFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeDallasFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeDallasFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeDallasFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeDallasFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeDallasFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeDallasFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeDallasFlyer has a reputation beyond repute
And then Greer’s just got everyone south of Florida?
Posted via Mobile Device
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 06-14-2018, 10:20 PM
OSU Flyer's Avatar
OSU Flyer OSU Flyer is offline
Brigadier General
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,675
Thanks: 995
Thanked 1,634 Times in 945 Posts
OSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by DallasFlyer View Post
And then Greer’s just got everyone south of Florida?
Posted via Mobile Device
Greer I believe is handling the greater NYC area & Northeast
Reply With Quote
Mad Props to OSU Flyer For This Totally Excellent Post:
Flyer 86 (06-15-2018)
  #14  
Old 06-14-2018, 11:27 PM
TXFlyerFan TXFlyerFan is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 871
Thanks: 634
Thanked 637 Times in 307 Posts
TXFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeTXFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeTXFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeTXFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeTXFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeTXFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeTXFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeTXFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeTXFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeTXFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeTXFlyerFan has a reputation beyond repute
Realistically at this time of the year, what kind of an assistant can you get that would be a good recruiter too.
Reply With Quote
  #15  
Old 06-15-2018, 07:58 AM
Alberto Strasse's Avatar
Alberto Strasse Alberto Strasse is offline
Brigadier General
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Miamisburg OH
Posts: 2,522
Thanks: 1,462
Thanked 1,429 Times in 708 Posts
Alberto Strasse has a reputation beyond reputeAlberto Strasse has a reputation beyond reputeAlberto Strasse has a reputation beyond reputeAlberto Strasse has a reputation beyond reputeAlberto Strasse has a reputation beyond reputeAlberto Strasse has a reputation beyond reputeAlberto Strasse has a reputation beyond reputeAlberto Strasse has a reputation beyond reputeAlberto Strasse has a reputation beyond reputeAlberto Strasse has a reputation beyond reputeAlberto Strasse has a reputation beyond repute
Timing of This

is most unfortunate.
Reply With Quote
  #16  
Old 06-15-2018, 09:26 AM
Furio Furio is offline
Colonel
 
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 1,314
Thanks: 75
Thanked 367 Times in 213 Posts
Furio has much to be proud ofFurio has much to be proud ofFurio has much to be proud ofFurio has much to be proud ofFurio has much to be proud ofFurio has much to be proud ofFurio has much to be proud ofFurio has much to be proud of
I'm sure AG has a short list of candidates to fill the position. Kane came from Murray St with previous ties to AG.There are always assistants looking to upgrade.
Reply With Quote
  #17  
Old 06-15-2018, 10:07 AM
DallasFlyer's Avatar
DallasFlyer DallasFlyer is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 3,738
Thanks: 630
Thanked 3,516 Times in 1,589 Posts
DallasFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeDallasFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeDallasFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeDallasFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeDallasFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeDallasFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeDallasFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeDallasFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeDallasFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeDallasFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeDallasFlyer has a reputation beyond repute
I don’t know how much timing matters in terms of poaching an assistant. You go after a top recruiter from a lower program like James Kane or maybe an assistant from a bigger program under a head coach who is on the hot seat. Another option which is not a route Dayton has ever gone down is to bring in the coach who is a package deal that brings you a stud recruit. This is pretty shady but it’s permissable and happens all the time. Of course, Grant has shown that like most coaches he tends to target guys who he has worked with previously. So honestly that’s probably what we should expect here.

All that said, losing Kane does hurt. He’s a rockstar recruiter and also a strong coach. I think he’s going to be a very successful head coach. And I think that could happen in the next 3-4 years. So it wasn’t going to be at Dayton because I think Grant’s here till he retires or is fired and I think he’s going to be given plenty of time to prove himself. Like 5 years at the very least.

But I do have confidence in Solomon and Greer as recruiters so I could see the logic in bringing in a really strong bench coach / tactician and just elevating the recruiting duties and territory of those two. Hypothetically (and I doubt this is Grants’s move) if you brought in a D2 lifer, that could be a good move. Might not be real popular here but it’s hard to say what exactly we need, for me anyway, as the delineation of our staff’s strengths is a bit of a mystery and my hunches aren’t based off a ton of evidence.
Posted via Mobile Device

Last edited by DallasFlyer; 06-15-2018 at 10:10 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #18  
Old 06-15-2018, 10:08 AM
jack72's Avatar
jack72 jack72 is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Wake Forest, NC
Posts: 12,146
Thanks: 10,077
Thanked 5,614 Times in 3,187 Posts
jack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond repute
The glass is half full. Grant will find a new guy with new contacts. Kane came from Murray St, which is a nice program, but it is not Villanova or Kansas.
Reply With Quote
  #19  
Old 06-15-2018, 10:27 AM
DallasFlyer's Avatar
DallasFlyer DallasFlyer is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 3,738
Thanks: 630
Thanked 3,516 Times in 1,589 Posts
DallasFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeDallasFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeDallasFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeDallasFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeDallasFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeDallasFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeDallasFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeDallasFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeDallasFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeDallasFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeDallasFlyer has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by jack72 View Post
The glass is half full. Grant will find a new guy with new contacts. Kane came from Murray St, which is a nice program, but it is not Villanova or Kansas.
Absolutely. You make a good point with regard to new contacts. Assuming you poach an assistant elsewhere from the college ranks then you are opening up new recruiting pipelines. And you don’t just lose the work Kane has done. Grant’s staff should be able to keep pounding at those. So that’s definitely a positive.

But I will say regarding the other point you make, a program like Kansas tends to be very selective going after the highest ranked guys whereas a program like Murray State aims to identify late bloomers and guys who should be really highly ranked and they get on guys early. I’m not saying we wouldn’t want to hire an assistant from Kansas or Villanova but in terms of recruiting there’s a ton of value in what an assistant from a lower program with a history of uncovering diamonds in the rough brings. While the Murray State guy has been talking to hundreds of guys and busting his ass to see as many prospects as possible, I feel like the Kansas guy is just working hard on maybe 20 guys, trying to beat out Duke and Kentucky on the recruiting trail. And that’s a tall order. And let’s face it, an even taller order if that assistant is thinking he can land that guy’s commitment at Dayton.
Posted via Mobile Device
Reply With Quote
2 UDPriders Offer Mad Props to DallasFlyer For This Totally Excellent Post:
Lowd&ProUD (06-15-2018), OSU Flyer (06-15-2018)
  #20  
Old 06-15-2018, 10:45 AM
jack72's Avatar
jack72 jack72 is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Wake Forest, NC
Posts: 12,146
Thanks: 10,077
Thanked 5,614 Times in 3,187 Posts
jack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by DallasFlyer View Post
Absolutely. You make a good point with regard to new contacts. Assuming you poach an assistant elsewhere from the college ranks then you are opening up new recruiting pipelines. And you don’t just lose the work Kane has done. Grant’s staff should be able to keep pounding at those. So that’s definitely a positive.

But I will say regarding the other point you make, a program like Kansas tends to be very selective going after the highest ranked guys whereas a program like Murray State aims to identify late bloomers and guys who should be really highly ranked and they get on guys early. I’m not saying we wouldn’t want to hire an assistant from Kansas or Villanova but in terms of recruiting there’s a ton of value in what an assistant from a lower program with a history of uncovering diamonds in the rough brings. While the Murray State guy has been talking to hundreds of guys and busting his ass to see as many prospects as possible, I feel like the Kansas guy is just working hard on maybe 20 guys, trying to beat out Duke and Kentucky on the recruiting trail. And that’s a tall order. And let’s face it, an even taller order if that assistant is thinking he can land that guy’s commitment at Dayton.
Posted via Mobile Device
Probably a good point on Kansas, but we want exactly the path that Nova took to the top.

What has Murray State accomplished that puts them where we want to be? The last three years they were 26-6,16-17 and 17-14 with one auto bid and first round loss from a weak league. Prior to that Prohm had one NCAA bid in four years. I, and most of us, want better for UD.
Reply With Quote
Mad Props to jack72 For This Totally Excellent Post:
m21eagle45 (06-15-2018)
  #21  
Old 06-15-2018, 12:03 PM
OSU Flyer's Avatar
OSU Flyer OSU Flyer is offline
Brigadier General
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,675
Thanks: 995
Thanked 1,634 Times in 945 Posts
OSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by DallasFlyer View Post
Absolutely. You make a good point with regard to new contacts. Assuming you poach an assistant elsewhere from the college ranks then you are opening up new recruiting pipelines. And you don’t just lose the work Kane has done. Grant’s staff should be able to keep pounding at those. So that’s definitely a positive.

But I will say regarding the other point you make, a program like Kansas tends to be very selective going after the highest ranked guys whereas a program like Murray State aims to identify late bloomers and guys who should be really highly ranked and they get on guys early. I’m not saying we wouldn’t want to hire an assistant from Kansas or Villanova but in terms of recruiting there’s a ton of value in what an assistant from a lower program with a history of uncovering diamonds in the rough brings. While the Murray State guy has been talking to hundreds of guys and busting his ass to see as many prospects as possible, I feel like the Kansas guy is just working hard on maybe 20 guys, trying to beat out Duke and Kentucky on the recruiting trail. And that’s a tall order. And let’s face it, an even taller order if that assistant is thinking he can land that guy’s commitment at Dayton.
Posted via Mobile Device
This is a great point and why I think losing Kane hurts so much. Not only is he the best recruiter on staff, he's also the guy who's had the most experience at recruiting guys at this level. He did very well at evaluating under the radar talent at Murray State. The Racers board when I looked at it loved the guy and said he was responsible for getting many of their stars. We even had a fan come over here and post how much they liked him.

There's real value finding under the radar guys

The other thing I really like him about him was that he had a lot connections in the southeast. That's an area where I think Dayton can make some real headway. There's really not a comparable program to UD in places like Kentucky, Tennessee, Bama, Mississippi, etc. It's the SEC and CUSA level programs
Reply With Quote
Mad Props to OSU Flyer For This Totally Excellent Post:
Lowd&ProUD (06-15-2018)
  #22  
Old 06-15-2018, 01:05 PM
Lowd&ProUD Lowd&ProUD is offline
2nd Lieutenant
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Posts: 66
Thanks: 106
Thanked 80 Times in 38 Posts
Lowd&ProUD is a name known to allLowd&ProUD is a name known to allLowd&ProUD is a name known to allLowd&ProUD is a name known to allLowd&ProUD is a name known to allLowd&ProUD is a name known to all
I always find it curious when an assistant from UK, UNC, or Duke lands a job and the main reason given is his ability to recruit.

At those schools, it's not terribly hard. Sure, not everyone can close the deal, but still.

The best recruiters at this level are the ones that can identify and land the hidden gems. Brian Roberts, Chris Johnson, Scoochie type of guys vs. thinking we're going to start landing 4 and 5 star guys on a regular basis. (Some day hopefully, but we're not there yet.)

One of our biggest problems is that the guys we've identified early lately seem to blow up shortly thereafter. Maybe I'm paranoid, but it almost feels like both AG and Archie's staff had such a good reputation for this that it attracted the attention of assistants at other schools.
Reply With Quote
Mad Props to Lowd&ProUD For This Totally Excellent Post:
OSU Flyer (06-15-2018)
  #23  
Old 06-15-2018, 05:47 PM
lhsgolf19's Avatar
lhsgolf19 lhsgolf19 is offline
General
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Suburbs of Detroit
Posts: 5,391
Thanks: 191
Thanked 5,227 Times in 1,371 Posts
lhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond repute
Jon Rothstein

Verified account

@JonRothstein
1m1 minute ago
More
Iowa State's Steve Prohm is expected to hire Dayton's James Kane as an assistant coach, per multiple sources. Replaces Neill Barry, who went to Texas.
Reply With Quote
  #24  
Old 06-15-2018, 05:51 PM
DallasFlyer's Avatar
DallasFlyer DallasFlyer is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Dallas, TX
Posts: 3,738
Thanks: 630
Thanked 3,516 Times in 1,589 Posts
DallasFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeDallasFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeDallasFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeDallasFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeDallasFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeDallasFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeDallasFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeDallasFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeDallasFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeDallasFlyer has a reputation beyond reputeDallasFlyer has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by jack72 View Post
Probably a good point on Kansas, but we want exactly the path that Nova took to the top.

What has Murray State accomplished that puts them where we want to be? The last three years they were 26-6,16-17 and 17-14 with one auto bid and first round loss from a weak league. Prior to that Prohm had one NCAA bid in four years. I, and most of us, want better for UD.
I NEVER said Murray State had accomplished anything we want to accomplish. I definitely agree with you that Murray State is not a program that Dayton is using as a benchmark program. But the best assistants don't necessarily come from the schools you want to be like.

Murray State was being used as an example only because Kane was an assistant there. If I am recalling things correctly, the opinion seemed to be that Kane was recruiting the vast majority of Murray State's top recruits - both the guys they did get and the guys they identified early but didn't land because they ultimately got out of Murray State's league. And with guys like Crutcher, his ability on the recruiting trail seemed to be translating.
Reply With Quote
  #25  
Old 06-15-2018, 06:06 PM
ud2's Avatar
ud2 ud2 is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 11,548
Thanks: 4,069
Thanked 3,270 Times in 2,158 Posts
ud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by DallasFlyer View Post
I NEVER said Murray State had accomplished anything we want to accomplish. I definitely agree with you that Murray State is not a program that Dayton is using as a benchmark program. But the best assistants don't necessarily come from the schools you want to be like.
MSU has more NCAAT appearances since the 1980's than we do-14 vs. 11-they are not exactly chopped liver.
Reply With Quote
  #26  
Old 06-15-2018, 06:28 PM
OSU Flyer's Avatar
OSU Flyer OSU Flyer is offline
Brigadier General
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,675
Thanks: 995
Thanked 1,634 Times in 945 Posts
OSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond repute
Murray State has had 2 guys in the first round recently
Reply With Quote
  #27  
Old 06-16-2018, 12:50 AM
ud2's Avatar
ud2 ud2 is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 11,548
Thanks: 4,069
Thanked 3,270 Times in 2,158 Posts
ud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond repute
MSU has been in weaker leagues than we have been in, so we have done significantly better than them historically in the rpi. I just wanted to point out that they have been a solid non-p5 program.

5 guys drafted since 1989


1989 2 4 31 Jeff Martin Los Angeles Clippers[68]
1992 2 14 41 Popeye Jones Houston Rockets[69]
1996 2 17 46 Marcus Brown Portland Trail Blazers[70]
2013 2 4 34 Isaiah Canaan Houston Rockets[71]
2015 1 14 14 Cameron Payne Oklahoma City Thunder[72]

Last edited by ud2; 06-16-2018 at 12:57 AM..
Reply With Quote
  #28  
Old 06-16-2018, 08:19 AM
jack72's Avatar
jack72 jack72 is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Wake Forest, NC
Posts: 12,146
Thanks: 10,077
Thanked 5,614 Times in 3,187 Posts
jack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by ud2 View Post
MSU has been in weaker leagues than we have been in, so we have done significantly better than them historically in the rpi. I just wanted to point out that they have been a solid non-p5 program.

5 guys drafted since 1989


1989 2 4 31 Jeff Martin Los Angeles Clippers[68]
1992 2 14 41 Popeye Jones Houston Rockets[69]
1996 2 17 46 Marcus Brown Portland Trail Blazers[70]
2013 2 4 34 Isaiah Canaan Houston Rockets[71]
2015 1 14 14 Cameron Payne Oklahoma City Thunder[72]
Two guys drafted in the last 20 years is not anything to write home about. Anyway it is not about the NBA draft. It is about winning, getting into the NCAA and winning games there. If UD is setting their sites on being in the same category as a good mid-major, then we will be a decent mid-major.

Anyway we are way off topic from will UD be able to get a new assistant as good or better than Kane?
Reply With Quote
  #29  
Old 06-16-2018, 10:51 AM
steverino015's Avatar
steverino015 steverino015 is offline
1st Lieutenant
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: greensboro, NC
Posts: 123
Thanks: 323
Thanked 57 Times in 31 Posts
steverino015 is just really nicesteverino015 is just really nicesteverino015 is just really nicesteverino015 is just really nicesteverino015 is just really nice
Originally Posted by ud2 View Post
MSU has been in weaker leagues than we have been in, so we have done significantly better than them historically in the rpi. I just wanted to point out that they have been a solid non-p5 program.

5 guys drafted since 1989


1989 2 4 31 Jeff Martin Los Angeles Clippers[68]
1992 2 14 41 Popeye Jones Houston Rockets[69]
1996 2 17 46 Marcus Brown Portland Trail Blazers[70]
2013 2 4 34 Isaiah Canaan Houston Rockets[71]
2015 1 14 14 Cameron Payne Oklahoma City Thunder[72]
dont mean to swerve the thread, but when I saw the name Popeye Jones, you betcha!!! I can still remember Murray St being a 16 seed in whatever region they were in, and they drew regional nr 1 seed Michigan State... and sent the darn game to overtime... Man, oh man, Popeye was a beast in that game - something like 35 or so points and maybe 12 rebounds or so... as a sophomore, he tore into the Spartans and never let up... great game...)
Reply With Quote
  #30  
Old 06-16-2018, 05:20 PM
OSU Flyer's Avatar
OSU Flyer OSU Flyer is offline
Brigadier General
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,675
Thanks: 995
Thanked 1,634 Times in 945 Posts
OSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond repute
Two 1st round picks this decade for a team in the OVC is definitely something to write home about to me. Xavier hasn't had a 1st round pick this decade and Villanova has had 1. In fact they would be tied with Creighton for the most 1st rounders to date since 2010 in the Big East.

For playing in a Conference that's ranked 20 or lower pretty consistently it's an amazing feat.

There's real value in getting an assistant from a program that's been consistently been to able to ID diamonds in the rough. Raw salesmanship is important in recruiting but for where Dayton is in a program it's pretty important to be able figure out whether the 2-3 star guys the program usually gets is the next Stephen Thomas or Brian Roberts

I have no idea what kind of pool of money AG is working with or whether he wants to hire a guy he's got connections too but I'd like to see someone who's done well at a successful mid major program
Reply With Quote
  #31  
Old 06-16-2018, 11:09 PM
longtimefan longtimefan is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Posts: 8,095
Thanks: 2,693
Thanked 5,082 Times in 2,334 Posts
longtimefan has a reputation beyond reputelongtimefan has a reputation beyond reputelongtimefan has a reputation beyond reputelongtimefan has a reputation beyond reputelongtimefan has a reputation beyond reputelongtimefan has a reputation beyond reputelongtimefan has a reputation beyond reputelongtimefan has a reputation beyond reputelongtimefan has a reputation beyond reputelongtimefan has a reputation beyond reputelongtimefan has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by ud2 View Post
MSU has more NCAAT appearances since the 1980's than we do-14 vs. 11-they are not exactly chopped liver.

I wonder how many of those were at-large bids.
Reply With Quote
Mad Props to longtimefan For This Totally Excellent Post:
CT Flyer (06-18-2018)
  #32  
Old 06-17-2018, 10:50 AM
OSU Flyer's Avatar
OSU Flyer OSU Flyer is offline
Brigadier General
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,675
Thanks: 995
Thanked 1,634 Times in 945 Posts
OSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond repute
If AG is going with someone who has a connection to him this might be a guy to watch out for, a guy he recruited to VCU Joey Rodriguez

https://www.fiusports.com/news/2018/...ing-staff.aspx
Reply With Quote
  #33  
Old 06-17-2018, 11:08 AM
lhsgolf19's Avatar
lhsgolf19 lhsgolf19 is offline
General
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Suburbs of Detroit
Posts: 5,391
Thanks: 191
Thanked 5,227 Times in 1,371 Posts
lhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by OSU Flyer View Post
If AG is going with someone who has a connection to him this might be a guy to watch out for, a guy he recruited to VCU Joey Rodriguez

https://www.fiusports.com/news/2018/...ing-staff.aspx
I doubt it, he was hired as an FIU Assistant in the last month or so by the new coach who came from VCU
Reply With Quote
  #34  
Old 06-17-2018, 12:06 PM
OSU Flyer's Avatar
OSU Flyer OSU Flyer is offline
Brigadier General
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,675
Thanks: 995
Thanked 1,634 Times in 945 Posts
OSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by lhsgolf19 View Post
I doubt it, he was hired as an FIU Assistant in the last month or so by the new coach who came from VCU
I would think if AG wanted him he could get him
Reply With Quote
  #35  
Old 06-17-2018, 01:59 PM
jack72's Avatar
jack72 jack72 is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Wake Forest, NC
Posts: 12,146
Thanks: 10,077
Thanked 5,614 Times in 3,187 Posts
jack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by OSU Flyer View Post
I would think if AG wanted him he could get him
Not sure a kid from Florida will give up Florida to come to Ohio. The money offer better be real good.
Reply With Quote
  #36  
Old 06-17-2018, 02:05 PM
TXFlyerFan TXFlyerFan is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 871
Thanks: 634
Thanked 637 Times in 307 Posts
TXFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeTXFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeTXFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeTXFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeTXFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeTXFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeTXFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeTXFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeTXFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeTXFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeTXFlyerFan has a reputation beyond repute
We had two grad assistants. What's the chances one of them would be hired? Not quite sure on our coaching staff pecking order. Assume Solomon is the #1 assistant.
Reply With Quote
  #37  
Old 06-17-2018, 02:53 PM
Lifelong Flyer Fan Lifelong Flyer Fan is offline
Brigadier General
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 2,174
Thanks: 4,386
Thanked 3,251 Times in 1,166 Posts
Lifelong Flyer Fan has a reputation beyond reputeLifelong Flyer Fan has a reputation beyond reputeLifelong Flyer Fan has a reputation beyond reputeLifelong Flyer Fan has a reputation beyond reputeLifelong Flyer Fan has a reputation beyond reputeLifelong Flyer Fan has a reputation beyond reputeLifelong Flyer Fan has a reputation beyond reputeLifelong Flyer Fan has a reputation beyond reputeLifelong Flyer Fan has a reputation beyond reputeLifelong Flyer Fan has a reputation beyond reputeLifelong Flyer Fan has a reputation beyond repute
Solomon is the Associate Head Coach. Perhaps one of Darren Hertz, Andy Farrell or Devin Davis would move to Asst. Coach. I think there is 0 chance a grad assistant would be hired as an asst.
Reply With Quote
2 UDPriders Offer Mad Props to Lifelong Flyer Fan For This Totally Excellent Post:
San Diego Flyer (06-17-2018), TXFlyerFan (06-17-2018)
  #38  
Old 06-17-2018, 03:20 PM
OSU Flyer's Avatar
OSU Flyer OSU Flyer is offline
Brigadier General
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,675
Thanks: 995
Thanked 1,634 Times in 945 Posts
OSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond repute
Usually grad assistants start out at administrative positions like Director of Basket Operations, Video Coordinator, etc. or as full assistants at a lower level than Dayton
Reply With Quote
Mad Props to OSU Flyer For This Totally Excellent Post:
TXFlyerFan (06-17-2018)
  #39  
Old 06-17-2018, 03:44 PM
San Diego Flyer's Avatar
San Diego Flyer San Diego Flyer is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Dallas
Posts: 13,184
Thanks: 7,771
Thanked 8,803 Times in 3,948 Posts
San Diego Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeSan Diego Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeSan Diego Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeSan Diego Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeSan Diego Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeSan Diego Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeSan Diego Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeSan Diego Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeSan Diego Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeSan Diego Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeSan Diego Flyer has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by Lifelong Flyer Fan View Post
Solomon is the Associate Head Coach. Perhaps one of Darren Hertz, Andy Farrell or Devin Davis would move to Asst. Coach. I think there is 0 chance a grad assistant would be hired as an asst.
Positively. Recruiting is your job lifeline. You must believe you are getting the best recruiter above all else.
Reply With Quote
  #40  
Old 06-18-2018, 11:18 AM
lhsgolf19's Avatar
lhsgolf19 lhsgolf19 is offline
General
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Suburbs of Detroit
Posts: 5,391
Thanks: 191
Thanked 5,227 Times in 1,371 Posts
lhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond reputelhsgolf19 has a reputation beyond repute
Coach Kane on twitter:

I am excited for the next challenge in my career and chance to reunite with Coach Steve Prohm at Iowa State University. However, leaving Flyer Nation and its rich basketball tradition was an extremely tough decision. Going to work with Coach Prohm again was one of the few unique opportunities I could not pass up. I am very appreciative to the University of Dayton, Dr. Spina, Neil Sullivan and Coach Grant for the privilege to coach at such a first class program. I also want to thank the entire Dayton staff and most importantly the players for their hard work all year. Coach Grant is one of the best coaches and people in college basketball. I know he will continue to lead the Flyers to success.
Reply With Quote
2 UDPriders Offer Mad Props to lhsgolf19 For This Totally Excellent Post:
jack72 (06-18-2018), MNFats (06-20-2018)
  #41  
Old 06-18-2018, 11:22 AM
ud2's Avatar
ud2 ud2 is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Posts: 11,548
Thanks: 4,069
Thanked 3,270 Times in 2,158 Posts
ud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond reputeud2 has a reputation beyond repute
http://cyclones.com/coaches.aspx?path=mbball


Coach Kane now shown as an ISU assistant coach on the ISU website.
Reply With Quote
  #42  
Old 06-18-2018, 01:39 PM
jack72's Avatar
jack72 jack72 is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Wake Forest, NC
Posts: 12,146
Thanks: 10,077
Thanked 5,614 Times in 3,187 Posts
jack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond reputejack72 has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by lhsgolf19 View Post
Coach Kane on twitter:

I am excited for the next challenge in my career and chance to reunite with Coach Steve Prohm at Iowa State University. However, leaving Flyer Nation and its rich basketball tradition was an extremely tough decision. Going to work with Coach Prohm again was one of the few unique opportunities I could not pass up. I am very appreciative to the University of Dayton, Dr. Spina, Neil Sullivan and Coach Grant for the privilege to coach at such a first class program. I also want to thank the entire Dayton staff and most importantly the players for their hard work all year. Coach Grant is one of the best coaches and people in college basketball. I know he will continue to lead the Flyers to success.
Sort of like the girl that dumps you and says that you are a great guy and I like everything about you; we should be friends in the future.
Reply With Quote
2 UDPriders Offer Mad Props to jack72 For This Totally Excellent Post:
CvilleFlyer (06-18-2018), Muckem333 (06-18-2018)
  #43  
Old 06-18-2018, 04:39 PM
Furio Furio is offline
Colonel
 
Join Date: May 2001
Posts: 1,314
Thanks: 75
Thanked 367 Times in 213 Posts
Furio has much to be proud ofFurio has much to be proud ofFurio has much to be proud ofFurio has much to be proud ofFurio has much to be proud ofFurio has much to be proud ofFurio has much to be proud ofFurio has much to be proud of
Originally Posted by jack72 View Post
Sort of like the girl that dumps you and says that you are a great guy and I like everything about you; we should be friends in the future.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-OYct-o78o

One word to describe him? just a year ago
Reply With Quote
  #44  
Old 06-18-2018, 06:28 PM
OSU Flyer's Avatar
OSU Flyer OSU Flyer is offline
Brigadier General
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 2,675
Thanks: 995
Thanked 1,634 Times in 945 Posts
OSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond reputeOSU Flyer has a reputation beyond repute
Maybe we can get an in to get a H/H with Iowa State now
Reply With Quote
  #45  
Old 06-20-2018, 06:50 AM
T-Bone 84's Avatar
T-Bone 84 T-Bone 84 is offline
Major General
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Shiloh, OH
Posts: 3,992
Thanks: 2,112
Thanked 2,421 Times in 1,275 Posts
T-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond repute
Not to take this thread back off-topic, but simply to clarify an earlier point: Murray State has had 2 Draft Picks in the past 8 years, not 2 First Round Draft Picks, correct? Canaan went in the 2nd Round in 2013, correct? Still better than UD has done, true, but not 2 First Rounders.
Posted via Mobile Device
Reply With Quote
  #46  
Old 06-20-2018, 06:58 AM
T-Bone 84's Avatar
T-Bone 84 T-Bone 84 is offline
Major General
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Shiloh, OH
Posts: 3,992
Thanks: 2,112
Thanked 2,421 Times in 1,275 Posts
T-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond reputeT-Bone 84 has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by Furio View Post
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-OYct-o78o

One word to describe him? just a year ago
Had to turn the video off after that. I won’t say there’s no such thing as “loyalty” in college athletics, but it’s more rare than it is prevalent.

I don’t blame the guy for wanting to improve his lot in life, but I’m not sure Iowa State is a major step up in the world of college basketball. Guess we’ll know in about 24-36 months.

Finally, this just reinforces that, to a number of people out there, we’re a “Betty” and P5 schools are all “Veronicas”.
Posted via Mobile Device
Reply With Quote
  #47  
Old 06-20-2018, 09:03 AM
TXFlyerFan TXFlyerFan is offline
Committed to this Web Site and Your Enjoyment!
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 871
Thanks: 634
Thanked 637 Times in 307 Posts
TXFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeTXFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeTXFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeTXFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeTXFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeTXFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeTXFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeTXFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeTXFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeTXFlyerFan has a reputation beyond reputeTXFlyerFan has a reputation beyond repute
Truthfully, we don't have a long history of assistant coaches becoming head coaches. There's been a few but not like X and other schools. One can only imagine he believes being an assistant in a P5 conference is a quicker stepping stone to a HC position that being an assistant at UD. If in fact Grant is going to be at UD for a long time, I'd expect to see a fair amount of turnover at the asst coach position because there won't be a path to promotion here.
Reply With Quote
  #48  
Old 06-20-2018, 10:30 AM
MNFats's Avatar
MNFats MNFats is offline
Major
 
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 647
Thanks: 758
Thanked 869 Times in 337 Posts
MNFats has a reputation beyond reputeMNFats has a reputation beyond reputeMNFats has a reputation beyond reputeMNFats has a reputation beyond reputeMNFats has a reputation beyond reputeMNFats has a reputation beyond reputeMNFats has a reputation beyond reputeMNFats has a reputation beyond reputeMNFats has a reputation beyond reputeMNFats has a reputation beyond reputeMNFats has a reputation beyond repute
Originally Posted by T-Bone 84 View Post
Had to turn the video off after that. I won’t say there’s no such thing as “loyalty” in college athletics, but it’s more rare than it is prevalent.

I don’t blame the guy for wanting to improve his lot in life, but I’m not sure Iowa State is a major step up in the world of college basketball. Guess we’ll know in about 24-36 months.

Finally, this just reinforces that, to a number of people out there, we’re a “Betty” and P5 schools are all “Veronicas”.
Posted via Mobile Device
I would say he is very loyal. To Steve Prohm.
Reply With Quote
Mad Props to MNFats For This Totally Excellent Post:
superfan99 (06-20-2018)
  #49  
Old 06-20-2018, 11:17 AM
Buster Goode Buster Goode is offline
Major General
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: San Fernando Valley, CA
Posts: 3,016
Thanks: 1,111
Thanked 1,939 Times in 902 Posts
Buster Goode has a reputation beyond reputeBuster Goode has a reputation beyond reputeBuster Goode has a reputation beyond reputeBuster Goode has a reputation beyond reputeBuster Goode has a reputation beyond reputeBuster Goode has a reputation beyond reputeBuster Goode has a reputation beyond reputeBuster Goode has a reputation beyond reputeBuster Goode has a reputation beyond reputeBuster Goode has a reputation beyond reputeBuster Goode has a reputation beyond repute
This is a very long thread considering 90% of the people on here won't remember this dude's name in two months. This will have zero impact on wins and losses.
Reply With Quote
4 UDPriders Offer Mad Props to Buster Goode For This Totally Excellent Post:
IndianaFlyer (06-20-2018), Justin (06-20-2018), Lifelong Flyer Fan (06-20-2018), Sarge (06-20-2018)
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.1

All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:51 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.6
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Advertisement System V2.6 By   Branden

     
 
Copyright 1996-2012 UDPride.com. All Rights Reserved.