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Lightbulb Source: K. Antetokounmpo to test draft waters

Kostas Antetokounmpo, a redshirt freshman at Dayton and the younger brother of Bucks All-Star Giannis Antetokounmpo, will enter the NBA draft, according to a source.

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Percent chance he actually gets drafted?
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zero. Come on, he could not start on a 14-17 A-10 team only get about 10 minutes a game.
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zero. Come on, he could not start on a 14-17 A-10 team only get about 10 minutes a game.
But probably the coach was the problem...
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Old 03-22-2018, 05:19 PM
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But probably the coach was the problem...
Its funny how you think your opinion is right and I think my opinion is right, so we will let the facts decide, AG 10 years, 2 NCAA appearances and 2 NIT (I think im correct without looking it back up, lol), pretty crappy track record to me, after next year it will be 11 years
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I don't think Kostas will get drafted, but I can see some team signing him to a free agent contract and sticking him in the G-League hoping Giannis will sign with their team in 2021 when he's a free agent.
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Probably the best thing for him right now. He will get honest feedback about where he is and where he needs to go. I cannot imagine anyone thinks he is ready. May waste a second rounder and send him to Europe, if that is legal with a US college player.
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Its funny how you think your opinion is right and I think my opinion is right, so we will let the facts decide, AG 10 years, 2 NCAA appearances and 2 NIT (I think im correct without looking it back up, lol), pretty crappy track record to me, after next year it will be 11 years
3 NCAA and 4 NIT. Technically he only coached 3 of the NIT's. If you are going to let the facts decide, try using the facts.
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Kostas declaring for the draft, the NBA draft?? WTF, I didn't realize pot was legal in Ohio yet?
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Its funny how you think your opinion is right and I think my opinion is right, so we will let the facts decide, AG 10 years, 2 NCAA appearances and 2 NIT (I think im correct without looking it back up, lol), pretty crappy track record to me, after next year it will be 11 years
Anyone with any basketball acumen knows what the cause of KA only playing a handful of minutes per game was-hint, it wasnít the coach.
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Its funny how you think your opinion is right and I think my opinion is right, so we will let the facts decide, AG 10 years, 2 NCAA appearances and 2 NIT (I think im correct without looking it back up, lol), pretty crappy track record to me, after next year it will be 11 years
Since you seem to know everything, how about you give me the Powerball numbers for Saturdays drawing?

One thing you can be certain of, whatever happens will be done ethically with hard work; you know... the one thing missing from several players leftover from the previous coach...

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Probably the best thing for him right now. He will get honest feedback about where he is and where he needs to go. I cannot imagine anyone thinks he is ready. May waste a second rounder and send him to Europe, if that is legal with a US college player.
Since he withdrew, he is no longer a college student, and he is a Greek citizen so I am sure that would be within the rules.
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Anyone with any basketball acumen knows what the cause of KA only playing a handful of minutes per game was-hint, it wasnít the coach.
And probably the repeated, clanked, wide open 3-point shots that he continually missed may have also had something to do with his limited minutes early on. I think he finally saw the light at the end of the season. Helps to have a brother recently signed to a $100 million dollar contract. It's that kind of cushion that probably made this decision easier than most. When I compare the talent that Chris Wright had and where he was projected in the NBA vs this decision....let's just say I'll be very surprised if he gets drafted even in the 2nd round. But if he does, it's name recognition only; believe it.
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Kostas Antetokounmpo, a redshirt freshman at Dayton and the younger brother of Bucks All-Star Giannis Antetokounmpo, will enter the NBA draft, according to a source.

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The fact this story refers to Kostas as a "power" forward is...uh...laughable.
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I wish Kostas the best but what can you do if the guy doesn't want to play college basketball
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Enter the draft????………he wants to be in the army?
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He will be drafted based on his size and who is brother is...period.
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Is the same where if he does not hire an agent, he can still play college ball. Article says that he is "not requesting a transfer."

Seems to me someone is giving him bad advice. Isn't this something that you would think he would discuss his prospects with AG? Based on what little I saw of him, I thought he was one to two years away from even thinking about the draft. Maybe he should look at the struggles of Charles Cooke and Chris Wright, whom I thought had more talent and ability that KA at this stage.
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Kostas is 6'10 and weighs 190 lbs. He has no outside shot and can't penetrate off the dribble. He couldn't start on a week UD team. NBA draft potential is his brothers name and influence period.
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Is the same where if he does not hire an agent, he can still play college ball. Article says that he is "not requesting a transfer."
How would it work if he fails all of his classes since he left campus?
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While disappointed Kostas has left, I never entirely felt comfortable with this new trend of recruiting players that all of us knew had zero intention of attending classes to get a degree. Neither he nor Svoboda were here for education, not even as a secondary motivation. That's not been our model for success. Give me the 4 year senior who provides continuity and leadership.
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Enter the draft????ÖÖÖhe wants to be in the army?
Oh, I thought someone left a window open and he stepped in front of it.
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There's no way he is ready to play pro ball unless overseas in a week league. Given his potential he could have stayed and developed to a higher level player but he blew it.
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He is not gone yet just testing the waters. If they tell him he has no chance then he will be back. If they think he has the potential he might stay and
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He is not gone yet just testing the waters. If they tell him he has no chance then he will be back. If they think he has the potential he might stay and
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Gonna be tough to do since he effectively flunked out by withdrawing from classes, won't it?
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He is not gone yet just testing the waters. If they tell him he has no chance then he will be back. If they think he has the potential he might stay and
get picked.
He wonít be back no matter what- check his Twitter to UD fans. But at least he acknowledged the support he received. I think he had a tough year with the death of his father and maybe feels at his age he needs to move on. If he didnít have the financial resources of his brother, no way would he have gone this direction but I think he feels he needs to devote himself full time to his dream. I think he will play at a higher level of professional ball- but unless he gets much wider and stronger, I donít see him cracking the NBA code. Wish him the best. Hopefully AG can find someone near his potential as a late bloomer or Juco. Interesting times ahead very soon.
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Kostas is 6'10 and weighs 190 lbs. He has no outside shot and can't penetrate off the dribble. He couldn't start on a week UD team. NBA draft potential is his brothers name and influence period.
All he needs is a time machine, so he can teleport back 65 years, to a time when NBA centers were built like Neil Johnston or Easy Ed Macauley (6í8Ē & 215 lbs.).

Seriously, I wish him the best of luck, but I have my doubts that he has the maturity to handle the unvarnished criticism that is sure to come his way from people whoíve been around the NBA for 10-15 years and know what it takes to succeed at that level. Best case for him NBA-wise is that a team that doesnít need help right now (ex. Golden State) uses their 2nd Round pick on him, and sends him to the G-League, to get bigger and stronger, and/or help him develop an outside shot. If he has any future at all at the next level, itíll be at either the 4 (with a much stronger body) or the 3 (with a much- improved shooting range). Any objective observer can see that heís at least another 1-3 years away from making an NBA roster, and that itíll take a lot of hard work on his part between now and then to get there.
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He can probably go over to Greece and get a contract over there. Development wise he's probably better off focusing on basketball full time versus playing college ball.
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I don't think many people realize that even bad shooters in the NBA are good shooters. He couldn't get drafted in the top 250 players this year (if it went that far) based on his current skills.
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I just donít see him getting drafted anytime soon. He canít stop anyone in the A10. He struggles if he has to dribble into position. He can dunk with a free path to the hoop. Thatís it. Will an NBA team invest 3-4 years in him or spend their time and resources on players that only need a year or two in the development league? Sitting here today, He has potential to develop into a solid started at UD. Thatís a long way from the potential to contribute anything on an NBA team. Maybe he proves me dead wrong. Time will tell, but I see a lot of disappointment ahead for an immature 20 year old.
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I just donít see him getting drafted anytime soon. He canít stop anyone in the A10. He struggles if he has to dribble into position. He can dunk with a free path to the hoop. Thatís it. Will an NBA team invest 3-4 years in him or spend their time and resources on players that only need a year or two in the development league? Sitting here today, He has potential to develop into a solid started at UD. Thatís a long way from the potential to contribute anything on an NBA team. Maybe he proves me dead wrong. Time will tell, but I see a lot of disappointment ahead for an immature 20 year old.
His brother is rich so i do see him in a nice ride.
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I just donít see him getting drafted anytime soon. He canít stop anyone in the A10. He struggles if he has to dribble into position. He can dunk with a free path to the hoop. Thatís it. Will an NBA team invest 3-4 years in him or spend their time and resources on players that only need a year or two in the development league? Sitting here today, He has potential to develop into a solid started at UD. Thatís a long way from the potential to contribute anything on an NBA team. Maybe he proves me dead wrong. Time will tell, but I see a lot of disappointment ahead for an immature 20 year old.
He'll ride the coattails of his 100 mm brother and be on his payroll....He'll be a "do this/do that" guy for him....Still not a bad gig...lol
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His brother is rich so i do see him in a nice ride.
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And at 21 he will be able to drive that nice ride to very nice night clubs where women will throw themselves at him thinking he’s a big time player. Right now playing basketball is more attractive than being disciplined and taking care of academics. When you don’t have a solid base of discipline, it won’t take long to prefer late nights out at clubs rather than early morning training sessions or practice. In a year and a half at UD, Kostas showed us more “lack of discipline” examples of his character than flashes of a big league potential basketball player. This is a young man who needs the discipline of a college program like UD that requires student athletes to take care of the student portion of that equation.

And for the record, I heard that 60-80% of pro athletes are broke within 5 years of leaving their sport. By the time you pay taxes and your agent 7-10%, you get less than half. If you’re supporting family and buying nice rides and multiple homes it doesn’t take long to blow it all.

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The world Kostas grew up in and the changes that occurred in his life must be more than any of us can imagine. He grew up in poverty in Greece and moved to the US a few years ago at the time wealth came into the family. I would imagine the Greece to US and poverty to wealth transition would be confusing. Not surprising his head is not on straight. None of his brothers went to college. The family just doesnít understand how things are supposed to work. Kostas may have been caught in the transition. Hopefully his younger brother will be brought up in a way that will give him a better chance of succeeding. Kostas has an uphill battle.
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For crying out loud. "The family doesn't understand how things are supposed to work?!?"

The guy has height and athletic ability that cannot be taught. He has transcendental athletic ability for his height. He is destined to be a professional basketball player. He is best served by developing his game and his body, and college basketball pales in comparison to the G league or Europe or as the 12th man on an NBA roster for development. He needs to eat sleep and dream basketball for a few years.

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Thatís kind of the point. Why did he go to college in the first place? Should have gone to Europe or a sports academy and skipped college.
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Thatís kind of the point. Why did he go to college in the first place? Should have gone to Europe or a sports academy and skipped college.
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For crying out loud. "The family doesn't understand how things are supposed to work?!?"

The guy has height and athletic ability that cannot be taught. He has transcendental athletic ability for his height. He is destined to be a professional basketball player. He is best served by developing his game and his body, and college basketball pales in comparison to the G league or Europe or as the 12th man on an NBA roster for development. He needs to eat sleep and dream basketball for a few years.

Will he ever be a great, or even good, NBA player? Maybe not. But you don't need to achieve that to have a lucrative career in basketball and it's time to start finding out. Worst case he plays in Europe for ten years.
I don't agree that Europe is a better place for him to develop basketball skills. The pipeline from Euro leagues to the NBA is a trickle. If he wants to make a career of playing in Europe, that's a different story.

G league may offer him a better path to the NBA, but getting to the NBA is far from a sure thing. UD (or college in general) would've offered him an education, to go along with development of basketball skills. This would've opened doors for him beyond basketball, just in case opportunities in professional basketball do not materialize.

In the end, college is not for everyone and the choice is deeply personal. He's made his decision. I hope things work out for him.
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I think 60 Minutes is doing a segment on Giannis this Sunday. Hopefully they filmed it before the Pro Dreamer left, and UD gets some publicity.
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I think 60 Minutes is doing a segment on Giannis this Sunday. Hopefully they filmed it before the Pro Dreamer left, and UD gets some publicity.
Saw the same promo. With the production schedule of the typical news program, Iím guessing Kostasís departure hadnít been announced at the time production was completed.
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With that show it varies. I know a physician who was on about four years ago. It was filmed about three months before. If it is not a current event topic, they fit it in their schedule.
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Very nice story on the Greek Freak. He seems like everything that Kostas is not, humble and intelligent. You can tell he works hard and worked hard to get there.

Kostas is like the son of the rich guy, who pulled himself up and found success, only to see his son take it for granted and not work nearly as hard.

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Very nice story on the Greek Freak. He seems like everything that Kostas is not, humble and intelligent. You can tell he works hard and worked hard to get there.

Kostas is like the son of the rich guy, who pulled himself up and found success, only to see his son take it for granted and not work nearly as hard.

Was amazed that Giannis lives in a plain two bedroom apartment with his mother and girlfriend.
... and youngest brother Alex. My guess is that there is one more there since this was filmed.
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Based on what you see of his brother, you can see that Kostas has potential. The question is will he develop it properly. Kostas is long, but needs to add muscle, skills, footwork and maturity. Will he do that better outside of a college envioronment? Stay tuned...

My guess is that he won’t be drafted, but will be signed. One NBA team will have to gamble.
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Based on what you see of his brother, you can see that Kostas has potential. The question is will he develop it properly. Kostas is long, but needs to add muscle, skills, footwork and maturity. Will he do that better outside of a college envioronment? Stay tuned...

My guess is that he wonít be drafted, but will be signed. One NBA team will have to gamble.
I think you're right. One team will take a 2nd round gamble, send him to the G-League and everyone who thought he was going to be a one-and-done will be right but for all the wrong reasons.
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Based on what you see of his brother, you can see that Kostas has potential. The question is will he develop it properly. Kostas is long, but needs to add muscle, skills, footwork and maturity. Will he do that better outside of a college envioronment? Stay tuned...

My guess is that he won’t be drafted, but will be signed. One NBA team will have to gamble.
Giannis looked eerily similar (very frail body early on and a high dribbler) to Kostas both in his game and body in that short clip they showed his rookie year where he had a ball stolen and then came down and blocked the layup. The big difference between these two, other than obvious talent, is that Giannis had/has that pressure to succeed with his entire family riding on his shoulders and that extra gear to be the best. He was not riding shotgun to any contract at all for that family upon coming here the way Kostas is getting to ride the crest of his brother's 100 mm.

Let's hope that Kostas can inherit half the work ethic and humility that Giannis has....

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I think you're right. One team will take a 2nd round gamble, send him to the G-League and everyone who thought he was going to be a one-and-done will be right but for all the wrong reasons.
Is right for the wrong reasons wrong?

Good point. It is an interesting time in the NBA. Clearly they are moving toward the MLB model with a minor league affiliate. With the draft only being 2 rounds, it will be interesting to see this year if the 2nd round picks tend more toward US players that align more with the European stash players that have been a large part of Round 2.

If/when the 1 and Done is changed, there will be clear impact but until then, the transition phase could go either way. Do you take a kid lie Brunson who projects to a career bench player but seems to have a much higher floor or a kid like Kostas? Then you get into it from the players side, is it better to picked in the 2nd round or have your choice as to where to go similar to the late 7th round NFL picks?

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Bleacher Report article with some comments from an NBA scout:

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There are a couple of interesting bits in there. The scout mentions that Dayton "didn't do him any favors".
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Bleacher Report article with some comments from an NBA scout:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...2018-nba-draft

There are a couple of interesting bits in there. The scout mentions that Dayton "didn't do him any favors".
Not doing him any favors means to me that he did not receive enough playing time.

I saw a few things that kept him off the court this year...
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Bleacher Report article with some comments from an NBA scout:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...2018-nba-draft

There are a couple of interesting bits in there. The scout mentions that Dayton "didn't do him any favors".
The article stated that he lead UD in plus-minus. That's interesting.
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Bleacher Report article with some comments from an NBA scout:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...2018-nba-draft

There are a couple of interesting bits in there. The scout mentions that Dayton "didn't do him any favors".
This guyís an NBA scout. He obviously thinks UD should have made getting Kostas ready for the NBA our No.1 priority for the season. Other than Kostasí stats for the year, Iím certain he knows nothing about the Dayton Flyers 2017-18 season.
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The article stated that he lead UD in plus-minus. That's interesting.
To be fair...the article says he led UD in "defensive" plus-minus.
It goes on to say he was last on the team in "offensive" plus-minus.

I didn't realize there was a difference. I thought your plus-minus was the game score differential when you were on the court.

I am guessing now...but to break down offense vs defense it must be based on a points per possession basis. Different stat then what I have know plus-minus to mean.
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His defense and offense Improved significantly the last few games of the season

Early in the year, he was good against a couple of weak OOC opponents. However, he was constantly in foul trouble and Anthony had to play zone almost exclusively when he was in the game.

The NBA scout probably did not research the injury during the summer. It is now obvious seeing his performance beginning to end of season that held back his development as well.
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just another mess Archie left...the kid didn't take in either summer session came to UD hurt he got rehab and given every chance to perform including against a down A10 and until late couldn't stay on the floor because of foul trouble, shot 51% from the free throw line, 66PF in 15 mpg would've led the team by whopping total if he could've ever stayed on the floor to average 30 mpg. Yeah, UD didn;t do him any favors...the writer as usual has this bass ackwards.
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just another mess Archie left...the kid didn't take in either summer session came to UD hurt he got rehab and given every chance to perform including against a down A10 and until late couldn't stay on the floor because of foul trouble, shot 51% from the free throw line, 66PF in 15 mpg would've led the team by whopping total if he could've ever stayed on the floor to average 30 mpg. Yeah, UD didn;t do him any favors...the writer as usual has this bass ackwards.
I don't think we could have played in the first summer session, in fact, I think he had to wait until second semester his freshman year to practice with the team.
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I don't think we could have played in the first summer session, in fact, I think he had to wait until second semester his freshman year to practice with the team.
I think he meant he didn't come to either summer session this past summer. I have no clue what he did the summer before his freshman year.
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talk about a thread that's outlived its usefulness and should be locked...

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This guyís an NBA scout. He obviously thinks UD should have made getting Kostas ready for the NBA our No.1 priority for the season. Other than Kostasí stats for the year, Iím certain he knows nothing about the Dayton Flyers 2017-18 season.
Exactly....he doesn't care about a new coach trying to set the tone for seasons to come.
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I think he meant he didn't come to either summer session this past summer. I have no clue what he did the summer before his freshman year.
that's correct...a year ago June & July...he could've stayed in Dayton which is almost mandatory (2nd session). For 1 thing basketball players can't advance toward a degree at UD without those sessions because 2nd semester each year they take an extremely light load because of the travel.

Anthony job wasn't to GIVE playing time to Kostas and that's what it would've been a GIFT. The first part of the season Kostas wasn't in shape and then he was a defensively liability...every time he came in we had to play zone.

Good luck to Kostas but anyone trying to portray Dayton and Anthony Grant in poor light on this 1 is out of touch with AG's mission at UD.
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And the most important point is...Kostas left UD a far better player than when he arrived. He was in shape, stronger, had better skills and developed some sense of team play (patience).
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talk about a thread that's outlived its usefulness and should be locked...
So a thread about a guy who was here 2 years and is trying to go pro has outlived its usefulness before we even find out where he goes?

Wherever he lands - I plan on following his career. He won't go down as an all time great or anything, but he is still a part of this family.

You might want to prepare yourself for other UD fans to talk about him for a little bit longer. In the meantime - feel free to not click into this thread anymore!
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Wow talk about limiting free speech and fan opinions. Just because you don't want to see or read about it this thread should be closed.

Kostas was a flyer and in his tweet said he'd be a flyer for life. That makes him relevant to flyer fans. Can't believe the arogance of some posters, instead of just passing on the thread (heading tells you what it's about) you want it closed. It's an ongoing story which much interest as to where he ends up and how he does.

I'm betting that you will come back to this thread to post a comment instead of ignoring a thread you have no interest in.
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I can't speak for every poster that ever said that this or that thread should be locked but I think I can speak for many. We literally do not mean it should literally locked. It is more or less expressing the opinion that just about everything that can be said on the subject has been said and nothing meaningful is being added. The other meaning about saying a thread should be locked is that the poster suggesting the lock just has no interested in the subject. Now many suggest that the poster suggesting the lock could just not click on the thread. The problem is that, that is not possible. Many of us have to literally click on every thread and read every post whether they think everything on the subject has been said and even have to click on threads that they have no interest in the subject. This can be due to boredom or routine.

So next time some poster says this thread should be locked, don't get all huffy about losing first amendment rights. Just ignore it like the poster who made the post does when he/she reads your post that states what has already been stated 6 times over in that thread.
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We literally do not mean it should literally locked. It is more or less expressing the opinion that just about everything that can be said on the subject has been said and nothing meaningful is being added.
So when you say something should be locked - you are actually saying it shouldn't be locked.

Sure. Makes sense. And by that I mean it doesn't.

Even if he actually meant "Don't lock it, but there is nothing more to say here" - I still find it odd that we consider this topic done when we don't even know where Kostas will end up yet! There is more to come on this topic!

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So when you say something should be locked - you are actually saying it shouldn't be locked.

Sure. Makes sense. And by that I mean it doesn't.

Even if he actually meant "Don't lock it, but there is nothing more to say here" - I still find it odd that we consider this topic done when we don't even know where Kostas will end up yet! There is more to come on this topic!
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I'm just curious. When a kid leaves a program like Duke or Kentucky after one year, the introduce him if he's in the NBA as being from Kentucky or Duke. If and when Kostas achieves NBA status are they going to introduce him as Kostas A ,from Dayton?
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This board spends entirely too much brain energy on thread policing and petty arguments. If I weren't such a devoted fan of the main topic, I would have abandoned this place years ago. Let's step our collective game up.
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I'm just curious. When a kid leaves a program like Duke or Kentucky after one year, the introduce him if he's in the NBA as being from Kentucky or Duke. If and when Kostas achieves NBA status are they going to introduce him as Kostas A ,from Dayton?
"Kostas went to Dayton University."
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I'm just curious. When a kid leaves a program like Duke or Kentucky after one year, the introduce him if he's in the NBA as being from Kentucky or Duke. If and when Kostas achieves NBA status are they going to introduce him as Kostas A ,from Dayton?
I think you have to play an x amount of minutes to qualify for direct association to name of school and it seems all the NBA guys will (some now) eventually will question CAG as to why this kid PHENOM wasn't playing 35 mpg.........lmao
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I believe Roger Brown has always been associated with UD during is professional career. He never played a minute of varsity basketball. I believe Kostas is ours.
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I think you have to play an x amount of minutes to qualify for direct association to name of school and it seems all the NBA guys will (some now) eventually will question CAG as to why this kid PHENOM wasn't playing 35 mpg.........lmao
Because the kid PHENOM liked to showcase his 3 point ability and he wasnít a PHENOM AT THAT
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Giannis looked eerily similar (very frail body early on and a high dribbler) to Kostas both in his game and body in that short clip they showed his rookie year where he had a ball stolen and then came down and blocked the layup. The big difference between these two, other than obvious talent, is that Giannis had/has that pressure to succeed with his entire family riding on his shoulders and that extra gear to be the best. He was not riding shotgun to any contract at all for that family upon coming here the way Kostas is getting to ride the crest of his brother's 100 mm.

Let's hope that Kostas can inherit half the work ethic and humility that Giannis has....
Yea, I was shocked on how similar they looked!
Doubt if Kostas can have the same physical metamorphosis as Giannis.
He's only 3 years older than Kostas, but Kostas has a long way to go.

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Unfortunately these storylines don't always develop for TV around performance, but rather they Center on something catchy. And no matter where he lands, his basketball progression will include something from his experience at Dayton. Just hope that it shows us in a good light.
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Here is a piece by my buddy Steve Bulpett, a UD grad who is the beat writer for the Celtics at The Boston Herald:

http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/c..._antetokounmpo

Danny Ainge had the chance to draft Giannis but didn't. He was skinny and undeveloped like Kostas back then.

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Latest ESPN Mock has Kostas going 59th to the Suns. Whether he is drafted or not he will get a chance. I'll be rooting for him.

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He was skinny and undeveloped like Kostas back then.
But exponentially more mature.
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Guess who doesn't make that MSESPN list if his name is Kostas Jones?

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Originally Posted by maddog07 View Post
Waaaahaaahaaahaa! NBA draft! Wahhaaa - 2 boards a game, wahahhaa, 5.2 pts avg, avg, wahahhaa, in the depleted A10. You can't make this up!
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I feel like I hit the lottery. There just isn't enough Crow to go around. We can file this with many of your other predictions.
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