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Villanova just won a national title starting a transfer from the joke of a basketball program that is Fordham University.
I forgot about Eric Paschall! I was trying to emphasize how a transfer can make their new program much better not comparing their prior programs.
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James Scott is the real deal. He put up 26 on Butler in addition to what Swampy posted. Good games against the two legit teams in the ASun Lipscomb and Florida Gulf Coast.

Good stats considering he had a huge usage rate at KSU. 1.7 steals a game is nice, a good sign of being an active defender

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Duke and every power 5 team in the country are trying to get Joe Cremo from Albany on grad transfer.
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Scott says he is looking to make his decision by the end of May. What will factor into Scott’s decision? He told us that he “wants to definitely be somewhere that I see myself fitting in their system. I want to be somewhere that I could see myself living without basketball because I won’t be able to travel with the team my first year. I also want to be at a place where I could build a relationship with my team and the coaches.”

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Samford F/C Wyatt Walker is leaving the program. Grad transfer with two years of eligibility.

6'9 240 out of Jacksonville. Aaveraged 12.9 points and 9.7 rebounds as a sophomore
I hope we haven't forgot about this kid! Furio stated that Walker had a knee injury this past season and only played 2 games for Scott Padgett's Samford Bulldogs. They have beaten some good teams including St. Louis of the A-10. Granted it was two seasons ago before the Billikens obtained some excellent recruits but the AP headline from 11/29/16 read, "Walker's 7th straight double-double leads Samford to win."

In an interview on you tube Wyatt Walker stated that he actually weighs 245 lbs! We need a big burly center for the rigors of the A-10 as we got pushed around pretty good in the paint last season! Besides, Cunningham would thrive going back to his more natural forward position.
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Reports: Kennesaw State transfer to visit Dayton

"Kennesaw State transfer James Scott will visit the Dayton Flyers on April 28, according to reports by ESPN and 247Sports.com." "Scott will visit Virginia Tech next weekend, according to reports, and also is considering Maryland, Temple and Connecticut among others. Kennesaw State, which is located in Kennesaw, Ga., and plays in the Atlantic Sun Conference, finished 14-18 and 10-20 in Scott’s two seasons."

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And let's not forget Ben Wallace, who just had his jersey retired by the Pistons. 15 years in the NBA. 4 time NBA defensive player of the year. Went to Chuyohoga Chommunity Chollege and D2 Virginia Union.

Some kids mature slowly, some grow slowly, some are not coached well in HS, some have grade problems, and some do not care till college.
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James Scott was a 1,000 point scorer coming out of HS at St. Benedicts, leading his team to a 31-1 record. Why no major offers? Who knows, who cares. The kid can ball.
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Obviously some major college coaches disagree with you:

--Scott has visited St. John's
--Scott will visit Va Tech


How about the 350 Div 1 coaches that agree with me when he graduated high school ?

I will give u that once a decade a star is found but come on man were UD, were supposed to be getting transfers from teams that are majors or mid majors, not teams that have 10 wins and 90% of America has never heard of, if you think we can rebuild this program by getting transfers from Kennesaw State and other no name schools then were doomed
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Obviously some major college coaches disagree with you:

--Scott has visited St. John's
--Scott will visit Va Tech


How about the 350 Div 1 coaches that agree with me when he graduated high school ?

I will give u that once a decade a star is found but come on man were UD, were supposed to be getting transfers from teams that are majors or mid majors, not teams that have 10 wins and 90% of America has never heard of, if you think we can rebuild this program by getting transfers from Kennesaw State and other no name schools then were doomed
Both ways can work. I'm probably more excited about the unranked kid outplaying his recruitment than I am a higher ranked kid who couldn't get minutes at a power 5 school.

Either can be successful (Cooke/Dillard/Cunningham from non P5 and Sibert/Sanford from P5). To write this kid off because he wasn't highly recruited two years ago is short-sighted. Players get better, some more than others.

You are pointing to the fact that none of the big schools recruited him out of high school, which is true. The fact that they are recruiting him now is them admitting they were wrong.
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Obviously some major college coaches disagree with you:

--Scott has visited St. John's
--Scott will visit Va Tech


How about the 350 Div 1 coaches that agree with me when he graduated high school ?

I will give u that once a decade a star is found but come on man were UD, were supposed to be getting transfers from teams that are majors or mid majors, not teams that have 10 wins and 90% of America has never heard of, if you think we can rebuild this program by getting transfers from Kennesaw State and other no name schools then were doomed
There are plenty of players that are better at 20-21 coming out of small schools than many who were 4-5 star players at 17-18 sitting on benches (and even playing) at Power 5 schools. What you seem to not understand is that a scholarship is a crap-shoot. It's a hedge bet on a ROI that a 16-17 year old player (because those are the ages anymore that many of these kids get offered) gets better and that is almost impossible outside of the top 50 players to gage how good they get and just how much ROI they provide.

Tons of players 1-2" too small, 10-15 lbs. too light, and 4-6" less vertical as 16-17 year olds that become real men at 19-20 years old...Look at all the transfers coming from NAIA, D2, D3, small D1 conferences that are being offered by big D1 programs (Xavier just signed 2 of them).

There are a boatload of these players that could be big-time contributors to UD and help take this team 2-3 games into the NCAA tourney possibly in the next couple years....
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6'10 PF, former 5 star. Not much production at Kentucky
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Kentucky's Sacha Killeya-Jones will transfer, per his Twitter page.

6'10 PF, former 5 star. Not much production at Kentucky
Not sure if we have a chance at him, but Grant seems to swing for the fences.

My parents went to UK and have tried to indoctrinate my son as a UK fan. They bought him a #1 jersey when Skal Labissiere wore it. He still wears it and was a huge Killeya-Jones fan this year just based on the number. If we were to get him at UD, I would have to put a helmet on my son before I told him to prevent his head from exploding...
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Transfers that were contributors for top 8 seeds that transferred from small schools.
Cane Broome- Cincinnati - sacred heart
David Skara- Clemson -valparaiso
DeSean Murray-Auburn-unc Asheville
James Daniel- Tennessee - Howard
Kaasius robertson- Missouri -canisus
Kerem kanter- Xavier - green bay
Macwuise reed- Clemson - Robert Morris
Nura Zanna- Houston -liu Brooklyn

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6-6 SG Xavian Stapleton from Mississippi State is a grad transfer who has hit the market. Good size at 6-6. Averaged about 20 mpg, 6.6 ppg, and shot 33% from 3. Good free throw shooter. He scored in double figures in each of their three NIT victories
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James Scott was a 1,000 point scorer coming out of HS at St. Benedicts, leading his team to a 31-1 record. Why no major offers? Who knows, who cares. The kid can ball.
By the way he made 72 for 90 this past season from the free throw line! An 80% free throw shooter is another quality to add to his already long list of qualities.
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While things didn’t work out at Syracuse, the future remains bright for Moyer as a number of power programs remain in the hunt. Dayton and Ohio State have been in touch but first, Xavier will have the opportunity to host Moyer for an official visit this weekend.

In no rush to make a decision, Moyer has scheduled another official visit for Vanderbilt, one that will occur May 7.

A timetable for a decision is not set as Moyer is attempting to schedule two other official visits to Kansas State and Texas. He was the No. 40 ranked prospect in the 2016 class and is valued for his defensive versatility and ability to play multiple positions in the half-court offense.

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Transfers that were contributors for top 8 seeds that transferred from small schools.
Cane Broome- Cincinnati - sacred heart
David Skara- Clemson -valparaiso
DeSean Murray-Auburn-unc Asheville
James Daniel- Tennessee - Howard
Kaasius robertson- Missouri -canisus
Kerem kanter- Xavier - Green Bay
Macwuise reed- Clemson - Robert Morris
Nura Zanna- Houston -liu Brooklyn
Heard of one of them, one, to my point there was like 300-400 transfers last year and U came up with 8 guys and most people never heard of 7 of them
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R u serious ? Skara averaged 3.3 points a game last year, lmao, major contributor LMAO
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It's pointless talking to you. I'll do it anyway...

You are right. He's terrible and is not worthy of a spot on our roster. Arizona, St. Johns, UConn, Virginia Tech, Maryland and Temple can have him. We are above those teams.

You are basing your entire critique of him on the fact that he wasn't highly recruited out of high school. I'm guessing you've never seen him play. The number of high major teams interested now is proving that teams were wrong two years ago to not offer him. They are admitting they were wrong.

It's time for you to do the same...
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R u serious ? Skara averaged 3.3 points a game last year, lmao, major contributor LMAO
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Reading comprehension doesn’t appear to be your strong suit. Contributor and major contributor are different things (although there are quite a few examples of major contributors too). Contributor means played in most games. The average team has 9 or so contributors. I looked at the top 32 teams and found 8 examples that’s pretty significant. If you looked throughout the top 8-9 conferences you’d find even more examples. Just off the top of my head I can think of a player from Curry’s brother from liberty to duke a few years back. Louisville had a pair of grad transfers star too.

Your argument is just nonsensical. You believe we should trust coaches evaluation from when players are 17-18 with no college experience versus when they are 19-22 with a history of success. That’s completely nonsensical. Do you want Anthony Bennett on your NBA team over Draymond Green too? Of course not. More often than not the 4-5 star recruits will be better than the 2 stars but sometimes that isn’t the case and there’s 10+ examples a year of solid players leaving small schools after proving their value for bigger schools (I didn’t even include players leaving schools like rice, Fordham, and Pepperdine for better programs). The fact that you’ve only heard of 1player on my list shows that you are uninformed. 2 play within an hour of Dayton. On top of that by your logic you’d love to have the uk transfer but Skara was a mistake for Clemson? They contributed similarly and Clemson was better than uk this year.

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EXACTLY MY POINT, sibert a guy coming from a top 20 program to us, not a bottom 20 program coming up to us
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Sibert averaged 3.0 points as a sophomore at Ohio State before coming to Dayton. Just an FYI udscott.
Yes, and I think that guy named Vee averaged around 5 points per game at Georgetown. Obviously there is a poster on here who is either trolling or doesnít know his óó from his óó.
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EXACTLY MY POINT, sibert a guy coming from a top 20 program to us, not a bottom 20 program coming up to us
During the out of conference portion of the season, he scored 26 against Butler, 17 against Florida State, 21 against Washington and 19 against Texas Tech.

He had good games against Florida Gulf Coast and Lipscomb who went to the NIT and NCAA respectively from the conference he played in.

What's not to like?
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6-6 SG Xavian Stapleton from Mississippi State is a grad transfer who has hit the market. Good size at 6-6. Averaged about 20 mpg, 6.6 ppg, and shot 33% from 3. Good free throw shooter. He scored in double figures in each of their three NIT victories
Looks like MSU used him as a stretch 4. Depending on what the staff is expecting out of some folks that could be could a good fit a year.

Mississippi State also lost 6'4 sophomore guard Eli Wright to transfer too. Put up pretty modest numbers but he was 80th ranked player in the country and a 4 star prospect by 247 out of high school in Owensboro, Kentucky.

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Yes, and I think that guy named Vee averaged around 5 points per game at Georgetown. Obviously there is a poster on here who is either trolling or doesnít know his óó from his óó.

LMAO a poster who is on here trolling, have you been waiting all year to use them words ? because we don't share the same opinion im a poster who is trolling, I'm sorry I will see that everyone breathing agrees with your opinions from this point forward
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Yes, and I think that guy named Vee averaged around 5 points per game at Georgetown. Obviously there is a poster on here who is either trolling or doesnít know his óó from his óó.


ONCE AGAIN MY POINT !! a top 30 program transfer coming to us, not a bottom 30 program player coming to us, thanks for keep proving my case
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Man you are a real putz. You referenced the below earlier:

" Skara averaged 3.3 points a game last year, lmao, major contributor LMAO"

You didn't mention anything about which school, etc. just his ppg average.

You were simply told that Siebert and Vee had very low scoring averages, too. Hello McFly, are you there????
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Good transfers come from EVERYWHERE
Villanova won the national title with a player named Paschall who transferred from that top 30 program Fordham. Obviously Wright should be fired for not getting a top 30 program transfer.

Louisville won their title (now vacated) with a transfer from another top 30 program George Mason. I don't think Pitino was fired for recruiting a player from an under top 30 program.

There are lots of players who transfer from top 30 programs who wash out after transfer. It is no guarantee.

Charles Cooke is playing in the NBA? Which top 30 program did he transfer from?

If all you care about is the program pedigree, then talent evaluation is not your strong point.
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ONCE AGAIN MY POINT !! a top 30 program transfer coming to us, not a bottom 30 program player coming to us, thanks for keep proving my case
Charles Cooke. Came from a much smaller school. Despite the jump in competition he saw in an increase in points, FG%, 3pt%, rebounds, blocks, blocks, and a decrease in turnovers and fouls.

Kevin Dillard saw an increase in points and assists after transferring from Southern Illinois. That's larger than Kennesaw State, but still a transfer moving up in competition and not coming from a top 20 program.

If this kid can even keep his production flat, or slightly down he would be a big help to this team.

Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. To say this kid can't play just because he didn't have offers 2 years ago is insane.

UDSCOTT - ARE YOU SAYING THAT YOU ARE A BETTER TALENT EVALUATOR THAN THE SCHOOLS CURRENTLY RECRUITING THIS KID??? WHAT DO YOU KNOW THAT THEY DON'T?
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UDSCOTT - ARE YOU SAYING THAT YOU ARE A BETTER TALENT EVALUATOR THAN THE SCHOOLS CURRENTLY RECRUITING THIS KID??? WHAT DO YOU KNOW THAT THEY DON'T?
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Charles Cooke. Came from a much smaller school.
Smaller than what? They have 20K undergrads.
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Smaller than what? They have 20K undergrads.
I think he meant smaller as far as basketball prowess. JMU is far from a powerhouse b-ball program.
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Smaller than what? They have 20K undergrads.
yeah, i know .... UD scott just says whatever comes into his mind without thinking.

James Madison small school. Hello? And i believe they are in the Colonial league which isn't half bad
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Good transfers come from EVERYWHERE
Villanova won the national title with a player named Paschall who transferred from that top 30 program Fordham. Obviously Wright should be fired for not getting a top 30 program transfer.

Louisville won their title (now vacated) with a transfer from another top 30 program George Mason. I don't think Pitino was fired for recruiting a player from an under top 30 program.

There are lots of players who transfer from top 30 programs who wash out after transfer. It is no guarantee.

Charles Cooke is playing in the NBA? Which top 30 program did he transfer from?

If all you care about is the program pedigree, then talent evaluation is not your strong point.
Julius Mays transferred from Wright State to a school in the state of Kentucky ("Wildcats" whoever that school is) and averaged 33 minutes per game and 9.3 points.
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I never said anything about JM, Iím talking about Kennesaw St, JM is not a bottom 20 program
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[QUOTE=Gazoo;547392]Julius Mays transferred from Wright State to a school in the state of Kentucky ("Wildcats" whoever that school is) and averaged 33 minutes per game and 9.3 points.[/QUOT

Once again u prove my point, WSU is a top 150-200 program, not Kennesaw St which is a bottom 20 program
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Maybe if you could provide the coaching staff a list of the schools they're permitted to recruit from, they could then go and look to see if those schools have any talent available.

Let's make sure not to look for what's inside the jersey, the focus needs to be on the name on the front of the jersey.

The reason we made the NCAA run is because we had theohiostateuniversitytransferjordan Siebert. If the refs had known him as jamesmadisonuniversitytransferjordan Siebert he never would have scored a point for us.
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FYI i have never said anything bad about the player Iím just saying weíre UD we donít recruit guys from Kennesaw State and think their gonna be studs here, cause it donít happen
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. . . but you're not going to admit how silly it sounds when you say out loud "the name on the front of the jersey is what matters." Right?
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Maybe if you could provide the coaching staff a list of the schools they're permitted to recruit from, they could then go and look to see if those schools have any talent available.

Let's make sure not to look for what's inside the jersey, the focus needs to be on the name on the front of the jersey.

The reason we made the NCAA run is because we had theohiostateuniversitytransferjordan Siebert. If the refs had known him as jamesmadisonuniversitytransferjordan Siebert he never would have scored a point for us.
Prove me wrong which I know someone will after hours of research, find me 3 players from bottom 20 schools, schools where people never heard of and show me where they went to a top 50 program and was a stud ?
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301 out of 350 with RPI is Kennesaw. So pretty close to the bottom
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With a few moments of research:

Karem Kanter went from RPI #302 Wisconsin-Green Bay to #4 the team that won the big east regular season title.

Devontae Graham may not exactly count, but he committed to Appalachian State (#250 last year) and then de-committed, went to prep school for a year and did okay at Kansas.

There are no bottom-20 school guys considering transferring to UD that I know of. But it you want to keep moving the goalposts and appear even more foolish, please proceed.
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With a few moments of research:

Karem Kanter went from RPI #302 Wisconsin-Green Bay to #4 the team that won the big east regular season title.

Devontae Graham may not exactly count, but he committed to Appalachian State (#250 last year) and then de-committed, went to prep school for a year and did okay at Kansas.

There are no bottom-20 school guys considering transferring to UD that I know of. But it you want to keep moving the goalposts and appear even more foolish, please proceed.
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With a few moments of research:

Karem Kanter went from RPI #302 Wisconsin-Green Bay to #4 the team that won the big east regular season title.

Devontae Graham may not exactly count, but he committed to Appalachian State (#250 last year) and then de-committed, went to prep school for a year and did okay at Kansas.

There are no bottom-20 school guys considering transferring to UD that I know of. But it you want to keep moving the goalposts and appear even more foolish, please proceed.
And let's mention a few more who are all/have had even NBA success since the poster who went from dumb to dumber doesn't think all this is just recent and just a phenomenon:

Jae Crowder-Howard university to POTY at Marquette.
Carl Landry-Vincennes to all BIG TEN 1st team at Purdue.
Jimmy Butler-Tyler Junior college to Marquette.
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Not sure if anyone mentioned this yet or not but didn't Duncan Robinson transfer to Michigan from Division III Williams College?
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And let's mention a few more who are all/have had even NBA success since the poster who went from dumb to dumber doesn't think all this is just recent and just a phenomenon:

Jae Crowder-Howard university to POTY at Marquette.
Carl Landry-Vincennes to all BIG TEN 1st team at Purdue.
Jimmy Butler-Tyler Junior college to Marquette.
Landry and Buter don't count, I said Div 1 bottom feeders, why they did not go div 1 in the first place is a question maybe they would have went to big schools if they qualified

crowder ill give ya, even though I don't know what POTY means, for his school ? Big east ? div 1 ?
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I want to play too.

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USC Upstate grad transfer Mike Cunningham will visit Oklahoma (4/19), Oklahoma State (4/22) and Louisville (4/25), per a source. Decision to come soon after.

USC Upstate was RPI 345 on the UD Pride listing.
Has he signed with a top 30 team and been a stud ? nope not yet so u cant count him
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R u serious ? Skara averaged 3.3 points a game last year, lmao, major contributor LMAO
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I am married to a Clemson grad and watched all of Clemson's games.

Skara started a number of games and was easily the 6th man. He was on the floor a lot, and was the defensive stopper. Great glue guy if not a big scorer.

He also was deemed ineligible for the first 9 games which caused some initial issues of getting in the flow.
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I am married to a Clemson grad and watched all of Clemson's games.

Skara started a number of games and was easily the 6th man. He was on the floor a lot, and was the defensive stopper. Great glue guy if not a big scorer.

He also was deemed ineligible for the first 9 games which caused some initial issues of getting in the flow.
You seriously cant say that with a straight face can u ?? he averaged 3.3 points a game, 3.3, him being suspended does not have anything to do with his average, don't try and sit there and type and tell us that a guy that was suspended 9 games and scored 3.3 points a game was your 6th man, that is beyond hysterical

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I don not agree with udscott's premise that someone from a smaller (basketball-wise) school can't be productive at UD BUT I have to agree with him that no one has really proved his point invalid yet and some have even helped to make his point.

Although maybe the Duncan Robinson post I made above is one udscott will agree is against his claim even though he came from DIII and not a bottom feeder DI school. Thoughts udscott?
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I am not sure where the goal posts have actually landed in this debate, but I thought it might be worth mentioning, and please forgive me if it was mentioned more than 50 posts above, as I just got refreshed the last few dozen posts - but where does the Hankins from Ferris St. (DII) rate/rank in all of this? Worse than a bottom feeder? On par? He chose Xavier as a grad transfer, after considerations given to Mich State, tOSU and Texas Tech.

Should our staff not be wasting their time since Ferris State is clearly a bottom feeder and beneath us? So glad we're not sticking in our heads in the sand like the staffs at XU, MSU and tOSU.

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#WVU head coach Bob Huggins has announced that sophomore Maciej Bender will transfer out of the program. Bender appeared in 35 games this past season and started one, averaging 1.2 points and 1.9 rebounds per game.

The 6-foot-10 prospect from Warsaw, Poland, signed with the Mountaineers in 2016 after attending Mountain Mission School in Grundy, Va. He held offers from Georgia Tech, Arizona State, Providence, Georgia and Ole Miss — all of whom projected Bender as a stretch four capable of shooting 3s and handling the ball on the perimeter.
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You seriously cant say that with a straight face can u ?? he averaged 3.3 points a game, 3.3, him being suspended does not have anything to do with his average, don't try and sit there and type and tell us that a guy that was suspended 9 games and scored 3.3 points a game was your 6th man, that is beyond hysterical

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Skara was ABSOLUTELY their 6th man. While 6th man term can be somewhat of a "grey" description/interpretation, it's historically designated to the player not in the traditional starting lineup who logs the most minutes and/or is the first player off the bench. And it's not specifically tied to a player's PPG. Players have different roles, some that are not always transparent in a stat sheet. Skara served as a defensive stopper and logged almost 20 minutes per game, which was 25% more than the next (7th highest) player.

Clemson was also a team whose starting 5 carried a heavy load of offensive production, as every starter averaged double digits and their 6th rated scorer was at 4.0, just .7 points above Skara.

Compared to Dayton, there wasn't a player outside of the Dayton top 5 that averaged more minutes than Skara.

With all due respect, the entire context and premise of your post and its justification is either misinformed or uninformed.
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Skara was ABSOLUTELY their 6th man. While 6th man term can be somewhat of a "grey" description/interpretation, it's historically designated to the player not in the traditional starting lineup who logs the most minutes and/or is the first player off the bench. And it's not specifically tied to a player's PPG. Players have different roles, some that are not always transparent in a stat sheet. Skara served as a defensive stopper and logged almost 20 minutes per game, which was 25% more than the next (7th highest) player.

Clemson was also a team whose starting 5 carried a heavy load of offensive production, as every starter averaged double digits and their 6th rated scorer was at 4.0, just .7 points above Skara.

Compared to Dayton, there wasn't a player outside of the Dayton top 5 that averaged more minutes than Skara.


With all due respect, the entire context and premise of your post and its justification is either misinformed or uninformed.
It's udscott, no one should be surprised by his lack of information or comprehension.
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Carson Williams of NKU is transferring. He is 6'5" and 230 lbs.

"In his sophomore season, he was NKU's third-leading scorer, averaging 12 points per game, to go along with 5.6 rebounds. Williams' 60.8 percent field goal percentage was one of the highest in the country.

After starting the first 27 games of the season, he was replaced by Dantez Walton, who started the team's final six games. In his freshman season, Williams started 34 games and was named to the Horizon League Freshman Team. He was named Mr. Kentucky in 2016 while playing for Owens County."
Not sure if we'd contact him but we could use a couple bigs on the roster he's worth a look imo. Poor man's Josh Cunningham, 6'5-6'6 guy who's an undersized bruiser. Lit Kentucky up in the NCAA tourney as a freshman
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I don not agree with udscott's premise that someone from a smaller (basketball-wise) school can't be productive at UD BUT I have to agree with him that no one has really proved his point invalid yet and some have even helped to make his point.

Although maybe the Duncan Robinson post I made above is one udscott will agree is against his claim even though he came from DIII and not a bottom feeder DI school. Thoughts udscott?
Thanks for the support, non D1 guys are hard to judge because the question will always be why they never went D1in the first place, like I said all Iím trying to say is top 50 programs donít go to bottom 50 programs to find players
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I will just put this information out here for all to consider and render their own opinion about such transfers from bottom dwellers to the upper echelon. These are just some the transfers in the last year alone.

FROM San Jose St to Gonzaga, Brandon Clarke
FROM Howard to Tennessee, James Daniel III
FROM Robert Morris to Michigan State, Braden Burke
FROM Cleveland St to Arizona St, Rob Edwards
FROM East Carolina to Syracuse, Elijah Hughes
FROM Rice to Florida, Egor Koulechov
FROM Sacred Heart to Seton Hall, Quincy McNight
FROM Duquesne to SMU, Isiaha Mike

The RPIís of the teams transferring FROM primarily ranging anywhere from the high 200ís (270ís/280ís) into 314, 321, 328, 339.

It happens. Every year. And the top programs pick up solid pieces and contributions to their teams from bottom dwelling programs. To discard it simply based on where the player was the previous year is ignorant and irresponsible.
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It appears your internet connection is good, so I will give you a little help. Start your search with James Daniel III and Egor Koulechov.
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It appears your internet connection is good, so I will give you a little help. Start your search with James Daniel III and Egor Koulechov.
OMG I LOVE YOU PEOPLE ! YOU KEEP PROVING MY POINT !, so I started and stopped at Daniel, first of all he is a grad transfer which is no where near what were talking about but anyhow he averaged 6 points a game, yes I said 6 points a game, if you call that a major impact player then yes I am crazy, 6 points per game and you wanna say "start with him"
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How many ppg did XW score last year? How about MS, Crosby, or Pierce? 6PPG would be a vast improvement over what we did get most of the year. Plus, there's a high likelihood these players are better defenders than what we have. Finally, just because they scored 6PPG on their team doesn't mean that's their limit. That was based on their role on the team. There's no point in trying to disprove UDScott's point because he's just here to complain. He'll find some reason to complain, shift goal posts, etc.
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ZOMG, quit proving UDScott's point. LOL, he averaged 10.9ppg and 10.2rpg. We need guys who averaged 50ppg for Duke and Kansas to transfer here.
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udscott, against all rational wisdom I'm going to try to lay this out logically for you.

1. You are claiming that something which is statistically unlikely is actually statistically unlikely. Not a huge leap.

2. Others are pointing out that statistically unlikely <> impossible.

3. There are many forms of statistically unlikely. Winning the lottery is statistically unlikely but mathematically random. Surviving a catastrophic airplane accident is statistically unlikely but pure luck. Making a full court shot is statistically unlikely. . . BUT, much more likely for Steph Curry than for you and me.

4. This explains the difference in assumptions, which underlies almost all disagreements. You are assuming we pick a guy from a 300+ RPI roster at random, or based on a single game performance, and expect him to be a major contributor at UD. That would be called "luck."

5. We are assuming that Grant (who is a more skilled talent evaluator than you and me, and also knows exactly what he's looking for) will look only at a subset of a subset of a subset; probably only 2 or 3 players out of the >600 in this category, and then critically evaluate the player, and then there's a 90% chance he still would not take the player.

6. Because there is only a small chance, we are assuming that Grant would take only 1% - 5% of his available time and allocate it to such an activity.

7. You are implying that it's Grant's central recruiting strategy, or that we think it should be.

You see, when you act like brooding teenager, you're going to get ridiculed. When you ask a question or answer a question is a reasonable way, people engage with you in a thoughtful way.
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udscott, against all rational wisdom I'm going to try to lay this out logically for you.

1. You are claiming that something which is statistically unlikely is actually statistically unlikely. Not a huge leap.

2. Others are pointing out that statistically unlikely <> impossible.

3. There are many forms of statistically unlikely. Winning the lottery is statistically unlikely but mathematically random. Surviving a catastrophic airplane accident is statistically unlikely but pure luck. Making a full court shot is statistically unlikely. . . BUT, much more likely for Steph Curry than for you and me.

4. This explains the difference in assumptions, which underlies almost all disagreements. You are assuming we pick a guy from a 300+ RPI roster at random, or based on a single game performance, and expect him to be a major contributor at UD. That would be called "luck."

5. We are assuming that Grant (who is a more skilled talent evaluator than you and me, and also knows exactly what he's looking for) will look only at a subset of a subset of a subset; probably only 2 or 3 players out of the >600 in this category, and then critically evaluate the player, and then there's a 90% chance he still would not take the player.

6. Because there is only a small chance, we are assuming that Grant would take only 1% - 5% of his available time and allocate it to such an activity.

7. You are implying that it's Grant's central recruiting strategy, or that we think it should be.

You see, when you act like brooding teenager, you're going to get ridiculed. When you ask a question or answer a question is a reasonable way, people engage with you in a thoughtful way.
I think it's safe to say that we can sub out Grant's name in your bullet point #5 and put any coach's name in D1, seeing how even top 20 teams will take on transfers from far lesser schools (NAIA/JUCO/D2/D3/Ivy league, etc. ) all over America, have, do, and will continue to just based on all the examples listed in this entire thread.

"Said" poster referred to gets his kicks and really believes his point is being made if the school supplying the transfer is even outside the bottom 20 ranked schools as if that team ranked one week might be 300 instead of 350....

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Add TJ McConnnell to the list. Duquesne to Arizona to the NBA.
Duquesne is not a bottom 20 program !
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NO ONE HAS PROVEN ME WRONG YET, prove to me that a bottom 20 program player transferred after 1-2 years and went to a top 50 program and still averaged close to what he did there, for example 19ppg at Kennesaw State then goes to Kansas State and averages 15 ppg, prove me wrong ?
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I'm really not sure what your argument is. Is it players from lower tier programs can't contribute at higher tier programs? Is it players from bottom 50 programs can't contribute at higher tier programs? Is it players from bottom 20 programs can't contribute at higher tier programs? Is it that players from lower tier programs can't get the same stats at higher tier programs?
It seems like your requirements just keep changing whenever people prove you're wrong. You've offered no good reasons why we should trust coach evaluations of high schoolers but not college students.

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NO ONE HAS PROVEN ME WRONG YET, prove to me that a bottom 20 program player transferred after 1-2 years and went to a top 50 program and still averaged close to what he did there.
Duncan Robinson.

Averaged 17 PPG at Divison III Williams as a freshman.
Averaged 11 PPG as a soph at Michigan
Averged 8 PPG as a junior at Michigan
Averaged 9 PPG as a senior at Michigan

Robinson didn't transfer from a bottom 20 D-1 program-- he came from D-3 to D-1 and played for the National Championship his senior year.

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NO ONE HAS PROVEN ME WRONG YET, prove to me that a bottom 20 program player transferred after 1-2 years and went to a top 50 program and still averaged close to what he did there, for example 19ppg at Kennesaw State then goes to Kansas State and averages 15 ppg, prove me wrong ?
Derrick White played at D2 Colorado Springs, transferred up to Colorado and now plays for the Spurs. Does he count?
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Derrick White played at D2 Colorado Springs, transferred up to Colorado and now plays for the Spurs. Does he count?
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No. His parameters have now changed. Must be a shade above light-skinned but no more than a shade, eyebrows can't be too bushy and no more than three moles on the back. Come to think of it I'm now siding with UDScott as there's probably nobody that transferred with those qualifications averaging exactly what they did..
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I will just put this information out here for all to consider and render their own opinion about such transfers from bottom dwellers to the upper echelon. These are just some the transfers in the last year alone.

FROM San Jose St to Gonzaga, Brandon Clarke
FROM Howard to Tennessee, James Daniel III
FROM Robert Morris to Michigan State, Braden Burke
FROM Cleveland St to Arizona St, Rob Edwards
FROM East Carolina to Syracuse, Elijah Hughes
FROM Rice to Florida, Egor Koulechov
FROM Sacred Heart to Seton Hall, Quincy McNight
FROM Duquesne to SMU, Isiaha Mike

The RPIís of the teams transferring FROM primarily ranging anywhere from the high 200ís (270ís/280ís) into 314, 321, 328, 339.

It happens. Every year. And the top programs pick up solid pieces and contributions to their teams from bottom dwelling programs. To discard it simply based on where the player was the previous year is ignorant and irresponsible.
I think SLUFLYER did a pretty good job here. If udscott wants to get technical and picky, he needs to clean up his own posts. Iíve read both top-bottom 20 and Top-bottom 30 in his posts Split the difference and say top 25 - that would be ranked teams. Very high standard there. And I think we would all agree any team in the 300s rpi which is about 50 are the worst programs every year. SLU listed several 300 programs above . Udscott also claims major contributor. I didnít read that in Sluís post. I read solid pieces and contributors.

I believe this all started with udscott complaining UD was looking at players that didnít meet his standards because they came from the worst programs in DI. A lot of people say where the come from isnít that important when evaluating a transfer. I think SLU laid out a pretty good case here. I think a person could also add players who were highly recruited out of high school, went to top programs and didnít fulfill their hype.

I believe our coaching staff is evaluating transfers on their playing talents. Looking at a stat sheet is a fine starting point, but breaking down game video is what determines who gets an offer and who doesnít.
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NO ONE HAS PROVEN ME WRONG YET, prove to me that a bottom 20 program player transferred after 1-2 years and went to a top 50 program and still averaged close to what he did there, for example 19ppg at Kennesaw State then goes to Kansas State and averages 15 ppg, prove me wrong ?
It's really hard to prove you wrong when you keep changing the criteria. This all started because someone said he would be a "very good get". At this point if we can get a guy to play 20 minutes a game, not turn it over, and play solid D, I would call them a good get for us. You have evolved from "he's not a good get because he is from a small school" to the ridiculous criteria above. We have given examples, lots of them, of guys without many offers coming out of high school who go on to have success on a bigger stage.

I enjoy a good debate as much as anyone, but you behave like my 7 year old son. The only difference between the two of you is he can eventually figure it out.

udscott - please answer this question:

If there is no history of success transferring from a school like Kennesaw St, which guarantees that this guy is a bum and can't contribute, then why are so many high majors (and mid majors) recruiting him? Are they all that stupid and just haven't figured out what you already know?
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I DON'T KNOW!

I feel like an alcoholic. Trying to avoid it. I stay away for a day or so and think, "I'll just post once" and then I immediately hate myself for it. I just flipped my "Days since I got sucked into one of udscott's asinine arguments" chart back to 0.
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if udscott makes a ridiculous point, why are you arguing with him
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Coach Grant is probably pleading with his assistants, please land a transfer now, so this mad discussion stops. Then at least we can debate something meaningful, like the CYO team he played on in 6th grade played in a weak league.
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OMG I LOVE YOU PEOPLE ! YOU KEEP PROVING MY POINT !, so I started and stopped at Daniel, first of all he is a grad transfer which is no where near what were talking about but anyhow he averaged 6 points a game, yes I said 6 points a game, if you call that a major impact player then yes I am crazy, 6 points per game and you wanna say "start with him"
Your point?? Nobody can figure out what your point is anymore, because it's changed so many times since your first ignorant post. Your initial post was that programs like UD do not recruit/consider transfers from Kennesaw State. You suggested there was no benefit and that we shouldn't be wasting our time. That point has been clearly proven ridiculous, as it's evident that transfers from bottom tier programs can be significant contributors at Top Tier programs.

Then you changed it to bottom 30 programs, Then it changed to bottom 20 programs. Then it changed to bottom 20 programs and they had to be studs after they transfer. Oh, and it can't be a grad transfer now either.

And I grabbed those 8 names on a very quick 5 minute glance thru the 2017 transfer list. There could very well be another half dozen that are similar.

For the record, Kennesaw State's RPI was 301, not even putting them in the bottom 50 programs. The year before that, they were 259 (ahead of Duquesne who you suggest is not bottom tier). And 263 the year before that.

Re: Daniel III, I would say he had a decent impact. And he did this on a team that won 26 games, tied for 1st in the SEC, earned a 3 seed in the dance and was a Sister Jean prayer/bounce on a buzzer beater away from making their own Final Four run. And you don't think a player like Daniel III could make an impact on the 9th best team in the A10? Are you really that oblivious?

Re: Duquesne not being a bottom tier program, their RPI was 260 plus the last two years. That's garbage, no matter how you spin it.

Re: Koulechov, I noticed you didn't reference him, probably because he was a "stud" for the Gators this year.

Also, I don't believe a single poster suggested the kid from Kennesaw State would be "stud". the comment was, "would be a nice get".

I will agree with you that Dayton is not going to find the holy grail of recruits by scouring the transfers of the bottom 20, 30, or 50 programs or whatever number you feel like plugging in there. But your first post was that we shouldn't even be considering a kid from Kennesaw State, regardless. It's that kind of arrogance, stubbornness, and narrow minded thinking that can kill programs and companies alike. It's clearly proven that kids like that can make solid contributions to Top 50 programs or help a program that's rated somewhere between (50-100) make a move into the Top 50, which is probably where Dayton actually is right now (50-100).

So after 6 posts, you finally managed to massage your parameters to the point where it's impossible to refute your point. Perhaps you feel better about your place in the world of internet board insignificance, but what you lost through all that was that your initial perspective and philosophy re: this topic/recruit was WAY off base. That point is undeniable.
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I'm gonna end it on this, you keep wanting AG to scour the bottom feeders of D1 programs for recruits and we will be the bottom feeders
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I'm gonna end it on this, you keep wanting AG to scour the bottom feeders of D1 programs for recruits and we will be the bottom feeders
THIS, I think we can all agree upon.
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Implying that the best player on a bad team still sucks because the team is bad is as stupid an assessment as saying that the worst player on a good team is a stud because the team wins.

If you honestly believe this, then criticism of the Head Coach (like Anthony Grant) is off limits because if the team stinks, it's because they have no talent.

Right?

I guarantee you that there are plenty of Top 10 basketball and football teams with rosters full of HS players from bad teams. And there are plenty of bottom 10 basketball and football teams filled with players from State champions.

It doesn't take brains to understand how talent gets lost when surrounded by weak players just as it doesn't take brains to realize that 20 ppg players sometimes benefit from the system. It just takes common sense...which is lacking around here lately.

For the royal doubters out there, have you ever hear of Michael Haley, Jr from Dunbar back in the 80s? He sucked but still averaged 35 ppg on a state championship team. He was surrounded by talent, coddled by his dad/coach and had the uncanny knack of being able to cherry pick and make a layup.

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Implying that the best player on a bad team still sucks because the team is bad is as stupid an assessment as saying that the worst player on a good team is a stud because the team wins.

If you honestly believe this, then criticism of the Head Coach like Anthony Grant) is off limits because if the team stinks, it's because they have no talent.

Right?

I guarantee you that there are plenty of Top 10 basketball and football teams with rosters full of HS players from bad teams. And there are plenty of bottom 10 basketball and football teams filled with players from State champions.

It doesn't take brains to understand how talent gets lost when surrounded by weak players just as it doesn't take brains to realize that 20 ppg players sometimes benefit from the system. It just takes common sense...which is lacking around here lately.

For the royal doubters out there, have you ever hear of Michael Haley, Jr from Dunbar back in the 80s? He sucked but still averaged 35 ppg on a state championship team. He was surrounded by talent, coddled by his dad/coach and had the uncanny knack of being able to cherry pick and make a layup.

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Anyhoo, those mid to late 80s Dunbar teams were stacked. Ice-T Taylor, Mark Baker and Haley.
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Robert Morris transfer Dachon Burke told ESPN he has received his release to transfer. Sophomore guard averaged 17.6 points and 5.8 boards this past season.
DEF some good numbers, plus 2.1 steals a game, in MEAC or whatever weak division they are in. I don't say that as a knock on him. But not sure we want a 62% FT shooter.

AND our guards getting 5.8 boards a game. I want a big or two, who get 6 to 10 boards a game as my DREAM transfer student. And let's get him at 6 8" to 6 10"

The 10 and 10 guy listed above sounds like what we need.
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McNeese State forward Quatarrius Wilson told ESPN he will transfer. Averaged 10.9 points and 10.2 boards this past season as a junior, and had 14 double-doubles. 6-foot-9 Mobile native.
Wow they play crap teams. He had some good games against New orleans, Nicholls, Cent Arkansas, SD State
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