McNeil

[TA111]

Originally Posted by Flyer Al Dayton is in the final three. Final decision within the next one to two weeks. https://www.daytondailynews.com/spor...GfWa4ZhH8XbWK/

Interesting that he hasn’t visited any other schools before making his decision.

[NorthwestFlyer]

Originally Posted by Flyer Al Dayton is in the final three. Final decision within the next one to two weeks. https://www.daytondailynews.com/spor...GfWa4ZhH8XbWK/

Sweet - so we will know on Thursday!

[SLUFLYER]

Originally Posted by steve Wasn't aware Donnie Jones was his main recruiter....Would have guessed UD was the prohibitive favorite had Jones not left.

Perhaps, but who really knows? I guess we'll ultimately find out.

It's rare that an assistant leaving would impact a recruit THAT much, unless of course that recruit is interested in following that coach. As much as it appears he's been around UD the last 4+ months, undoubtedly every other UD coach and a number of players have developed a good rapport with him. As long as the message has been consistent between staff, I don't think Jones' leaving impacts the decision. Deep down, he already has a good idea where/who it's going to be.

It'll be interesting. I remain optimistic. Stay tuned until next week.

[longtimefan]

Originally Posted by Flyer2 Are you back from vacation or are you stranded on the island?

Originally Posted by Swampy Meadows Don't I wish.

Don't we all.

[CE80]

When he announced he was down to 6, he included UD because he knew he was going to be hanging around another couple of months. If he had not included UD he would have had to deal with some negativity. He still has another month or so to be around Dayton. Same thing applies.

[SLUFLYER]

Originally Posted by CE80 When he announced he was down to 6, he included UD because he knew he was going to be hanging around another couple of months. If he had not included UD he would have had to deal with some negativity. He still has another month or so to be around Dayton. Same thing applies.

I guess that depends on one's interpretation of "hanging around". Per the article, he's living at home in Northern Kentucky and finishing his classes on line. He may make trips back to Sinclair for a variety of things.

[Medford]

I doubt the average student at Sinclair has any idea, nor care who HotBoy is when they pass him in the halls. Probably not that much backlash while at Sinclair no matter where he chooses to go.

[SLUFLYER]

Originally Posted by CE80 When he announced he was down to 6, he included UD because he knew he was going to be hanging around another couple of months. If he had not included UD he would have had to deal with some negativity. He still has another month or so to be around Dayton. Same thing applies.

Are you suggesting that's the ONLY reason UD remains on the list? And that our inclusion isn't legit?

If so, that's the first inkling or spin on that I've heard or been alluded to.

Here in St. Louis, Jayson Tatum (a local prodigy) included SLU in his final list(s), a school where his father played at as well. It was widely understood that he wasn't going to SLU.

I've not heard a whiff of this related to McNeil.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[podcast411]

Why not just hire the Sinclair coach as an assistant and have him recruit hot boy. We have an open spot in the coaching staff.

[CE80]

Originally Posted by SLUFLYER Are you suggesting that's the ONLY reason UD remains on the list? And that our inclusion isn't legit? If so, that's the first inkling or spin on that I've heard or been alluded to. Here in St. Louis, Jayson Tatum (a local prodigy) included SLU in his final list(s), a school where his father played at as well. It was widely understood that he wasn't going to SLU. I've not heard a whiff of this related to McNeil.

Pure speculation on my part. I hope I am wrong and if he does go to another school, I will not be saying I told you so because there will no way of knowing if I was correct or not. That is unless someone else posts that they heard he only put UD on his list to be nice in which case I will beat my chest.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[TommyGola]

Originally Posted by podcast411 Why not just hire the Sinclair coach as an assistant and have him recruit hot boy. We have an open spot in the coaching staff.

I was thinking exactly the same thing. The manner in which McNeil has developed in just one year infers to me that someone there was giving him some great coaching.

[steve]

Originally Posted by CE80 When he announced he was down to 6, he included UD because he knew he was going to be hanging around another couple of months. If he had not included UD he would have had to deal with some negativity. He still has another month or so to be around Dayton. Same thing applies.

I believe he included UD in his top 6 because they are legitimately in his top 6. Not trying to make anybody happy and I believe they are legitimately in his top 3 because, once again, they really are his top 3.

He's not a Dayton guy who has to face peer pressure until the midnight hour and especially now that he's done at Sinclair and an hour away..I also believe UD was the top choice prior to Donnie Jones leaving and still may be. Just like the topsy turvy road that Sean took to get to where he is now and to where he wants to go, he's no idiot and fully understands that both HC's and especially asst. coaches also take those same crazy roads to get to where they want in order to achieve their own ultimate goals...

[312to937]

He might want to take a look at the stats of Fletcher Magee (Wofford) to help him decide between playing against P5 conference opponents or A10 conference opponents. Here’s how FM shot the 3 ball against the big boys this year:

UK 0-12
Seton Hall 7-14
North Carolina 3-16
Kansas 0-9
Oklahoma 5-13
Miss St 4-10
South Carolina 2-11

So about 25%. That’s terrible.

I think UD or Western are better for him. And at UD he will still have a couple games to challenge himself against the big boys (Maui, and hopefully NCAA tourney)
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[BeckysTXA]

I’m pretty sure Donnie will and has done everything to still encourage him to pick UD. I doubt Stetson is a dark horse in this mix so Donnie would still be selling UD.

[Avid Flyer]

My personal opinion is Sean made a tactical error in waiting. He was a hot sought after shooter, but the more he waits the more his stock goes down. Hundreds of transfers in the market now who will take a chance on a sharp shooter from a community college over proven D1 guards.

UD made Sean their #1 target. Seems Sean has made UD his backup plan. AG only wants players who truly want to be a flyer. Even his comments to Arch of DDN weren't all that assuring. When asked if Jones departure would eliminate UD, he responded....not necessarily. That is hardly a convincing or assured comment.

Sometimes when you play the game you get left at the station.

[shwag33]

Originally Posted by Avid Flyer My personal opinion is Sean made a tactical error in waiting. He was a hot sought after shooter, but the more he waits the more his stock goes down. Hundreds of transfers in the market now who will take a chance on a sharp shooter from a community college over proven D1 guards. UD made Sean their #1 target. Seems Sean has made UD his backup plan. AG only wants players who truly want to be a flyer. Even his comments to Arch of DDN weren't all that assuring. When asked if Jones departure would eliminate UD, he responded....not necessarily. That is hardly a convincing or assured comment. Sometimes when you play the game you get left at the station.

He's not going to be left at the station.... He has P5 offers from quality schools along with us. Do you really think all the schools are going to rescind their offers cause he chose to wait an extra 2 weeks?

[rollo]

Originally Posted by shwag33 Do you really think all the schools are going to rescind their offers cause he chose to wait an extra 2 weeks?

Offers won't be rescinded...they'll be given to other recruits. Do you think Huggins will allow a JC transfer to run his ship?? Each school will have a deadline. Accept it or the offer goes to the next recruit.

[shwag33]

Originally Posted by rollo Offers won't be rescinded...they'll be given to other recruits. Do you think Huggins will allow a JC transfer to run his ship?? Each school will have a deadline. Accept it or the offer goes to the next recruit.

Yeah, well all of his big scholarships aren't going to disappear at once and he's going to end up at bowling green. If he has a list of 3 and two fill up because he's undecided well, his choice will just be made for him. He won't be left...i mean c'mon.

[steve]

Originally Posted by Avid Flyer My personal opinion is Sean made a tactical error in waiting. He was a hot sought after shooter, but the more he waits the more his stock goes down. Hundreds of transfers in the market now who will take a chance on a sharp shooter from a community college over proven D1 guards. UD made Sean their #1 target. Seems Sean has made UD his backup plan. AG only wants players who truly want to be a flyer. Even his comments to Arch of DDN weren't all that assuring. When asked if Jones departure would eliminate UD, he responded....not necessarily. That is hardly a convincing or assured comment. Sometimes when you play the game you get left at the station.

ZERO/ZIP/GOOSE EGG/NILL of a chance that happens unless "said" program gave him an ultimatum which none of us know. Why exactly is he "waiting" and what exactly is wrong with that? He's a JUCO who is right where he needs to be in the time table and even said he's making a decision in the next week or two.

And why does AG have the feeling the kid doesn't want to be a flyer? You sound like so many of the OSU fans regarding recruits that love a kid one minute then they see a photo of him wearing a Bama' hat or he goes on a visit somewhere and all of a sudden he's no good and OSU really doesn't want the kid.......

This kid doesn't owe AG or UD jack s___t at the moment unless he actually told them he's a silent commit and then signs the dotted line with another school.

[Lowd&ProUD]

He'll be fine. Chances that new slots open up are just as great as slots closing.

I feel for these kids having to make such a huge decision with so much attention on it from family, friends, sometimes media and fans.

Some want to believe a raucous atmosphere at a game will make a kid want to attend a certain school, but there are so many other factors that diminish that.

How do I get along with the coach? (Will he stay?)
How do I get along with the assistant recruiting me? (Will he stay?)
How do I fit in on the court with this team and style of play?
Will I get PT?
Will I get shots?
Do I click socially with the other guys on the team?
What's the atmosphere like in the locker room? On campus?
Is the location a plus or minus?
If not close to home, who can put me on national tv so my family and friends can see me?
Who can help develop my game to give me the best chance to get paid to do this?
Some kids have been known to be swayed by the uniforms or the number they can wear.

My head's spinning and it's not even my choice.

I'd rather Sean, or anyone else, take his time and go to the right school vs. spending a year with regret and going the transfer route.

[sheg]

Maybe he's committed to a school already and they've asked him to keep it quiet for recruiting reasons. Maybe he's waiting to see if a spot opens up at a so far unnamed school via a transfer. Maybe he's got two big exams this week and wants to focus on his studies for a few days. Maybe he had major dental work done and doesn't want to make a decision while he's still loopy from the pain meds. Maybe he's waiting to talk to Texas Tech again (who's understandably kind of busy this week). He'll announce when he announces, and if one of his top choices recruits over him in the mean time, obviously that's a risk he is fine with.

I want him here. I really think a sniper is all this team needs to be downright filthy next year and he might be the sniper we've never really seen.

[Avid Flyer]

Originally Posted by shwag33 Yeah, well all of his big scholarships aren't going to disappear at once and he's going to end up at bowling green. If he has a list of 3 and two fill up because he's undecided well, his choice will just be made for him. He won't be left...i mean c'mon.

We have differing interpretations as to being left at the station. Certainly he will get a ship but if not at the school of his choice due to recruiting over him that is being left at the station for that school.

Couple weeks back. Sure play it out. Hold out for best offer. But the competition has increased with all the transfersfers.

Not sure where his stock is against D1 transfer guards.

[shwag33]

Originally Posted by Avid Flyer We have differing interpretations as to being left at the station. Certainly he will get a ship but if not at the school of his choice due to recruiting over him that is being left at the station for that school. Couple weeks back. Sure play it out. Hold out for best offer. But the competition has increased with all the transfersfers. Not sure where his stock is against D1 transfer guards.

This still makes no sense.... He has it narrowed down to 3 schools all of his choice. There's almost no chance at all he doesn't get a scholarship to one of those 3 because they recruit over him. Possibly 1, but it's not like his mind is made up to go to that school. If 1 school recruits over him it makes his choice that much easier.

[CvilleFlyer]

Wow, you can sure tell the off season is in full swing! Two days since the last post on the McNeil thread and today it blows up and everybody has an opinion. Actually I enjoyed reading all of them because I think Flyer fans are very knowledgable about the game of basketball recruiting, rules etc. etc. (rollo especially on the rules from an officials point of view).
What stands out to me after reading all the posts from today is that they are all speculation. If Sean reads UD Pride he would just have to chuckle because of the speculation. He seems like a fine young man and is being extra cautious because of the significance of the decision he needs to make. I have faith in Anthony Grant and his assistants in regards to recruiting and there will be many shooters available in the grad transfer market that can play immediately but Sean McNeil would be the sniper that would put us over the top and make next season even better.

[The Fly]

McNeil was just named first team All-American in Division II NJCAA.

[TX Flyer]

If he was coming to UD we’d already know it. No reason to drag it out and chance AG taking someone else.

[joeybaloney]

Originally Posted by TX Flyer If he was coming to UD we’d already know it. No reason to drag it out and chance AG taking someone else.

Sounds like you've lost confidence that he is coming to UD.

I wonder if Texas Tech is in his final three and he obviously won't take a visit until after they get done with the tournament. Maybe Chris Beard will decide to head to UCLA and it'll take them out of the running.

[jpk4ud]

Originally Posted by Avid Flyer My personal opinion is Sean made a tactical error in waiting. He was a hot sought after shooter, but the more he waits the more his stock goes down. Hundreds of transfers in the market now who will take a chance on a sharp shooter from a community college over proven D1 guards. UD made Sean their #1 target. Seems Sean has made UD his backup plan. AG only wants players who truly want to be a flyer. Even his comments to Arch of DDN weren't all that assuring. When asked if Jones departure would eliminate UD, he responded....not necessarily. That is hardly a convincing or assured comment. Sometimes when you play the game you get left at the station.

I'm kind of surprised Dayton is in the final three. I hope he comes to UD but they were a month late to the McNeil party. By the time Dayton made their way down to Sinclair, Huggins had been there to watch him play and practice.

He isn't undersize for a shooting guard at all. He can move well and has a great step back jumper. Handles the rock well enough and can get off the ground. He is just what the 2019-20 Flyers need.

And for those that want to hire Coach Price as an assistant coach. Not sure that would happen he is also Sinclair's AD.

[TX Flyer]

Originally Posted by joeybaloney Sounds like you've lost confidence that he is coming to UD. I wonder if Texas Tech is in his final three and he obviously won't take a visit until after they get done with the tournament. Maybe Chris Beard will decide to head to UCLA and it'll take them out of the running.

With all the visits he took to UD and then scholarship opening up it made to much sense for him to not commit on his last visit. You have to wonder if Texas tech is where he lands. It’s just been way to quiet

[Avid Flyer]

All you have to do is follow his twitter account and you'd know the answer. Look at those who have stopped following him and those whom he stopped following.

One train left the station. Fortunately there will be more trains coming through.

[rollo]

Maybe he's waiting to see who will be coaching Texas Tech next season. Or better yet, where Chris Beard will be coaching next season.

[shwag33]

Originally Posted by Avid Flyer All you have to do is follow his twitter account and you'd know the answer. Look at those who have stopped following him and those whom he stopped following. One train left the station. Fortunately there will be more trains coming through.

So spill the beans instead of being vague,who did he stop following and vice versa. Archdeacon said he narrowed it down to 3 and dayton was one, so unless he unfollowed 4 of his list of 6, it would make sense in terms of it's still 3 teams.

[st marys]

Originally Posted by Avid Flyer All you have to do is follow his twitter account and you'd know the answer. Look at those who have stopped following him and those whom he stopped following.

Avid, I gave up Twitter for lent! You want to help me out and tell me where you think he's going to go?

[Flyer68]

“Me and Coach Jones had a really great relationship and so for him to go, from my standpoint, that was pretty tough. It’s just cause of how close me and him had gotten."

So what responsibility, if any, does a coach \ recruiter for college #1 have, when trying to recruit that kid for college #1, when the coach \ recruiter knows in his own mind that he may not be or will not be at college #1 if the kid accepts? I get that the coach\recruiter may not accept the other job and his job is to recruit for a particular school.

McNeil comments that, a "really great relationship" was built between the two and McNeil was affected by Jones' departure. Maybe it's part of the business but he is still a young, impressionable person who somewhat relies upon what the coach \ recruiter says. If I was McNeil's father or any recruit's father, I would ask the coach \ recruiter where does the coach \ recruiter see himself in the next 5 years.

Knowing that Jones is gone, it is still great that we are still one of the three remaining schools but, based on the Jones departure, I would be greatly surprised if he comes to UD. My guess is Huggins at WVU.

[ud2]

Originally Posted by joeybaloney Sounds like you've lost confidence that he is coming to UD. I wonder if Texas Tech is in his final three and he obviously won't take a visit until after they get done with the tournament. Maybe Chris Beard will decide to head to UCLA and it'll take them out of the running.

Rumors that Tennessee hc Barnes is involved with the UCLA job.

[m21eagle45]

Originally Posted by ud2 Rumors that Tennessee hc Barnes is involved with the UCLA job.

Barnes turned down UCLA yesterday after Tennessee gave him a raise.

[mikeymo85]

Cronin to UCLA

[Willy418]

Maybe Samari Curtis decommits and choses UD? Wishful thinking? Did AG recruit him?

[steverino015]

if we do or don't get McNeil, I question whether or not he would be our best shooter who ever JUCO transfered here... hope we land him, if he goes elsewhere, move on to the next....)

[longtimefan]

Originally Posted by mikeymo85 Cronin to UCLA

Nothing against Cronin, but I can't believe he was even in UCLA's Top 10 when they started their search.

[Chris R]

Cronin might have been a backup plan to the backup plan, but I still think they hired a helluva coach. A huge upgrade over Alford. Bruins will get a toughness real quick. The challenge will be carving space in LAs entertainment options.

[CE80]

Originally Posted by longtimefan Nothing against Cronin, but I can't believe he was even in UCLA's Top 10 when they started their search.

He probably wasn't but their top 10 probably was full of unattainable coaches. John Calipari but they offered less money than he is making now. Jamie Dixon but they wouldn't pay the buyout. I'm sure there were others like that. Brad Stevens? Billy Donovan?

[ud2]

Originally Posted by Chris R Cronin might have been a backup plan to the backup plan, but I still think they hired a helluva coach. A huge upgrade over Alford. Bruins will get a toughness real quick. The challenge will be carving space in LAs entertainment options.

Disagree...Alford did pretty well at UCLA, I bet Cronin does not do as well as Alford did there ...Cronin is just OK IMO, I was never overly impressed. Good but not great. I think UC may do better without him. I never even thought his defense at UC lived up to the hype. His offense needs work.

I am not trying to rip into Cronin, just my honest assessment of his coaching abilities.

This was not a good hire by UCLA, IMO, there were better options.

[ud2]

I mean you look at the guys who took new jobs this year, what about these guys to UCLA instead of Cronin?:

Former Nevada hc Musselman

Fred Hoiberg

Former Buffalo hc Nate Oats

Former VTU hc Buzz Williams

[UDGutter2]

Is this the coaching carousel thread, I'm seriously getting confused which is which.

[Widget]

Originally Posted by UDGutter2 Is this the coaching carousel thread, I'm seriously getting confused which is which.

Welcome to the off-season

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[AZFlyer85]

Originally Posted by UDGutter2 Is this the coaching carousel thread, I'm seriously getting confused which is which.

It's a distraction from the fact that McNeil likely isn't coming here. He's taking the best offer, where he can play the most.

[TommyGola]

We do not know one way or another about Sean McNeil. One thing we do know - we have two open scholarships and I would like to see a pure shooter like McNeil to take the pressure off of the offense.

[flyerfan4life]

McNeil isn't coming here. Time to move forward.

[MNFats]

Originally Posted by flyerfan4life McNeil isn't coming here. Time to move forward.

And how did you come to this conclusion? Because he hasn't committed yet?

[Glen Clark]

Originally Posted by flyerfan4life McNeil isn't coming here. Time to move forward.

Originally Posted by MNFats And how did you come to this conclusion? Because he hasn't committed yet?

Stupid posts on UD Pride scared him off

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[flyerfan4life]

Originally Posted by MNFats And how did you come to this conclusion? Because he hasn't committed yet?

I just know for a fact he isnt. Trying to get you guys to stop wasting time discussing him.

[UDGutter2]

Fact means there is proof, not just opinion. All they're saying is, if you have the proof, share it. Otherwise it is your opinion and means no more or less than anyone else's opinion.

[joeybaloney]

Originally Posted by flyerfan4life I just know for a fact he isnt. Trying to get you guys to stop wasting time discussing him.

Lol you have no facts, you are just disguising your opinion as fact. No one on here knows.
I certainly don't feel as good about him coming as I did before Donnie Jones departure, but I am still holding out a sliver of hope.

For all we know UD is his second choice behind Texas Tech. Now that their tournament run is over, perhaps he makes a visit there in the next week, it doesn't feel right, and he chooses UD. None of us will know for sure until he announces.

[flyerfan4life]

I know for a fact. Cant divulge the source or I wont get those facts anymore. Keep wasting your time. ��*♂️

[Avid Flyer]

Joey baloney Sean has made it obvious without verbally stating so. Sean has a twitter account "Hot Boy" UD staff, players and fans who followed him are no longer following him. UD staff, players and fans he was following he no longer follows. Get the gist yet. The train left the station. He's now focusing on the next trains coming through.

[joeybaloney]

Originally Posted by Avid Flyer Joey baloney Sean has made it obvious without verbally stating so. Sean has a twitter account "Hot Boy" UD staff, players and fans who followed him are no longer following him. UD staff, players and fans he was following he no longer follows. Get the gist yet. The train left the station. He's now focusing on the next trains coming through.

We shall see.

[steverino015]

Originally Posted by Avid Flyer Joey baloney Sean has made it obvious without verbally stating so. Sean has a twitter account "Hot Boy" UD staff, players and fans who followed him are no longer following him. UD staff, players and fans he was following he no longer follows. Get the gist yet. The train left the station. He's now focusing on the next trains coming through.

I checked yesterday... he is following the UD strength trainer, he is following Matt, he is following another coach for UD.... maybe he has already, through channels let AG know....I would think AG would know through his sources sooner than anyone here....
but either way, if he chooses elsewhere, I wish him luck... its not like he would of been the best JUCO transfer, or the best JUCO shooter we have had... we move on to the next one, if that is the case....

[podcast411]

Originally Posted by Avid Flyer Joey baloney Sean has made it obvious without verbally stating so. Sean has a twitter account "Hot Boy" UD staff, players and fans who followed him are no longer following him. UD staff, players and fans he was following he no longer follows. Get the gist yet. The train left the station. He's now focusing on the next trains coming through.

That is not accurate - I checked his account he is still following UD staff and vice versa.

Did you even try to check or just like making crap up?

The only train that left the station was your integrity. Get the Gist.

[Bucketnight]

Originally Posted by Avid Flyer Joey baloney Sean has made it obvious without verbally stating so. Sean has a twitter account "Hot Boy" UD staff, players and fans who followed him are no longer following him. UD staff, players and fans he was following he no longer follows. Get the gist yet. The train left the station. He's now focusing on the next trains coming through.

Not denying or doubting your reasoning. I actually like when someone puts pieces together. I am curious though. How would the fans know to stop following him and is it common that players would follow then stop following someone that they have gotten to know?

[TXFlyerFan]

Based on my recollection, he did unfollow Robby Poteat UD Associate Athletic Administrator, though Poteat still follows him. That's the only unfollow I know of. I don't think he's coming, but time will tell.

[OSU Flyer]

Hopefully he comes but with everyone coming back and the 4 transfers I feel pretty good.

With the coaching carousal, decommits and transfers their should be a bevy of players out there

[flyerfan4life]

He. is. Not. coming.

[FlyerinChicago]

Originally Posted by flyerfan4life He. is. Not. coming.

where’s he going?
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[shocka43]

Originally Posted by FlyerinChicago where’s he going? Posted via Mobile Device

You've got some on point posters saying not Dayton...

[UDGutter2]

Originally Posted by shocka43 You've got some on point posters saying not Dayton...

Oh man, not Dayton wasn't even in his top six, must have made a late push. Lol

[CE80]

Originally Posted by UDGutter2 Oh man, not Dayton wasn't even in his top six, must have made a late push. Lol

Is that not University of Dayton or not Dayton University?

[jack72]

Remember McNeil said 12 days ago he would probably make a choice "in a week or two but no more than three". So what is all this consternation, and negative crap about him not having made a choice yet, and UD is out because of that. This next week is exactly what he talked about.

Interesting that he has not announced publicly his final three, but maybe he is not into all the hoopla of most of these guys who call a press conference to announce the press conference. More power to him. Sounds like he has his priorities straight.

[San Diego Flyer]

I certainly hope not, but this recruitment is feeling a lot like the Adreian Payne gig. Swooning over us during the engagement when he knew full well he was going to run off with the farmer's daughter.

[hawkoooo]

Originally Posted by OSU Flyer with everyone coming back

That list has diminished and could diminish further.

[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by San Diego Flyer I certainly hope not, but this recruitment is feeling a lot like the Adreian Payne gig. Swooning over us during the engagement when he knew full well he was going to run off with the farmer's daughter.

True dat. To recall a cartoon from my youth, we’ve too often been the University of Dayton Betty Coopers.
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[flyerfan4life]

Originally Posted by jack72 Remember McNeil said 12 days ago he would probably make a choice "in a week or two but no more than three". So what is all this consternation, and negative crap about him not having made a choice yet, and UD is out because of that. This next week is exactly what he talked about. Interesting that he has not announced publicly his final three, but maybe he is not into all the hoopla of most of these guys who call a press conference to announce the press conference. More power to him. Sounds like he has his priorities straight.

It's not "negative crap". He's not coming to Dayton. I promise. Move on from the kid.

[CvilleFlyer]

Originally Posted by flyerfan4life I know for a fact. Cant divulge the source or I wont get those facts anymore. Keep wasting your time. ��*♂️

Like I said before in an earlier post McNeil is being extra cautious because of the significance of the decision he needs to make. If your source is as reliable as you say why don't you just reveal to us whether it is WVU or Texas Tech. If it is a fact that Dayton is out and we should move on then he or she must know his decision already and could reveal his or her choice of the two! You won't be divulging your source but if he or she picks the wrong one of the two remaining you might need to consider getting a new source.

I love the recruiting process just as much as the next person but I will be more than willing, as will all of us, to move on to the next recruit but it is just as easy to remain positive instead of negative and let this process play out!

Hebrews 11:1 "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen."

[Flyer Dave]

Sorry, but I will not move on. I'll wait till I he himself will make the announcement. I don't know why everyone is so concerned with U.D. fans who will wait till a recruit makes the announcement. Make your statement then move on to your next post. Thank-you.

[John C.]

From the very beginning it has been my hope that he will see the value of an education from UD and the thrill of playing in front of a packed house every home game. In addition, he has the opportunity of being universally loved by the Flyer Faithful forever, even if he isn't a star. It is a unique experience.

If he moves on, I wish him all the luck in the world. It is a tough decision that about 40% regret at some point in time and realize their initial choice wasn't correct. He has even experienced that himself.

If you look back at several of Grant's signees, we had little or no clue they were coming. I would bet money we may have another one of those in the next month.

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[CE80]

Originally Posted by flyerfan4life It's not "negative crap". He's not coming to Dayton. I promise. Move on from the kid.

Yeah, save the posts for after he rejects UD and he can be bashed by some, then defended by others and posters can bash each other and defend each other. You know like most threads on here.

[flyerfan4life]

Originally Posted by CvilleFlyer Like I said before in an earlier post McNeil is being extra cautious because of the significance of the decision he needs to make. If your source is as reliable as you say why don't you just reveal to us whether it is WVU or Texas Tech. If it is a fact that Dayton is out and we should move on then he or she must know his decision already and could reveal his or her choice of the two! You won't be divulging your source but if he or she picks the wrong one of the two remaining you might need to consider getting a new source. I love the recruiting process just as much as the next person but I will be more than willing, as will all of us, to move on to the next recruit but it is just as easy to remain positive instead of negative and let this process play out! Hebrews 11:1 "Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen."

The source said that he isn't coming to Dayton. Didn't say anything about where he'll be going. Enjoy your time continuing to speculate about a kid that isn't coming to Dayton.

[steverino015]

Originally Posted by flyerfan4life The source said that he isn't coming to Dayton. Didn't say anything about where he'll be going. Enjoy your time continuing to speculate about a kid that isn't coming to Dayton.

was it a direct family member, or a staff member of another university, or a staff member of this university? you can most certainly clarify without divulging your source, that is allowed...)

that would be better than seemingly enjoying your time posting the same message again and again....)

I will wait until I get it from the player himself.... and I will enjoy my time doing so, thank you

[flyerfan4life]

Originally Posted by steverino015 was it a direct family member, or a staff member of another university, or a staff member of this university? you can most certainly clarify without divulging your source, that is allowed...) that would be better than seemingly enjoying your time posting the same message again and again....) I will wait until I get it from the player himself.... and I will enjoy my time doing so, thank you

It was someone that knows he isn't coming to Dayton.

[UDGutter2]

Originally Posted by flyerfan4life It was someone that knows he isn't coming to Dayton.

It was UDScott who got the tip from Maddog.

[NCkevi]

UD has a 1 in 3 chance of getting him
I am fine if someone posts they have inside info but if they keep coming back again and again but refuse to give details - it looks to me that they are just playing the odds

[Gazoo]

Originally Posted by flyerfan4life The source said that he isn't coming to Dayton. Didn't say anything about where he'll be going. Enjoy your time continuing to speculate about a kid that isn't coming to Dayton.

I believe you.

What I don't get is this: why do you dismissively say "enjoy your time speculating" yet you continue to visit and post on a thread dedicated entirely to the thing you've answered definitively about 20 times now?

I get it. You said your peace. If you'd like to smugly tell everyone how THEY are wasting THEIR time, why do you contribute to them wasting their time by wasting your time? You're equally guilty of time wasting.

[steverino015]

Originally Posted by NCkevi UD has a 1 in 3 chance of getting him I am fine if someone posts they have inside info but if they keep coming back again and again but refuse to give details - it looks to me that they are just playing the odds

well said, that's what I am thinking... its not just coming back again and again.. it is then saying something like "enjoy yourselves" discussing someone not coming here... that comes across to me like:

I know something you don't know, blah blah blah... don't know if that was the intention...

you have posted your information, to the point of being ad nauseam... you may be wrong, people have the right to change their minds... you very well may be, absolutely correct....

the one truth, without a doubt, is that your repetitive post is getting irritating.

[flyerfan4life]

Originally Posted by NCkevi UD has a 1 in 3 chance of getting him I am fine if someone posts they have inside info but if they keep coming back again and again but refuse to give details - it looks to me that they are just playing the odds

If they had a 33.3% chance of landing him then i would be speculating right along with you.

[longtimefan]

Originally Posted by flyerfan4life McNeil isn't coming here. Time to move forward.

Originally Posted by flyerfan4life I just know for a fact he isnt. Trying to get you guys to stop wasting time discussing him.

Originally Posted by flyerfan4life I know for a fact. Cant divulge the source or I wont get those facts anymore. Keep wasting your time. ��*♂️

Originally Posted by flyerfan4life He. is. Not. coming.

Originally Posted by flyerfan4life It's not "negative crap". He's not coming to Dayton. I promise. Move on from the kid.

Originally Posted by flyerfan4life The source said that he isn't coming to Dayton. Didn't say anything about where he'll be going. Enjoy your time continuing to speculate about a kid that isn't coming to Dayton.

Originally Posted by flyerfan4life It was someone that knows he isn't coming to Dayton.

Do you think he's coming to Dayton?

[MNFats]

Originally Posted by UDGutter2 It was UDScott who got the tip from Maddog.

Was it more than that? Or was it just the tip?

Sorry....couldn't resist. I'll show myself out.

[UDGutter2]

From my experience, when a source does not want to be divulged, many times, not all, but many times, it is because they are not 100% sure. When I get info like that, I never post it. Sometimes it is correct, sometimes it is not, so I just post it as my opinion, which is all it really is.

[ClaytonFlyerFan]

My source (UD Employee very well connected, or so I thought) was 100% sure we were in the Big East when they re-organized.

So here is hoping your source knows as much as my source did!

[Bill McPeek]

Originally Posted by ClaytonFlyerFan My source (UD Employee very well connected, or so I thought) was 100% sure we were in the Big East when they re-organized. So here is hoping your source knows as much as my source did!

A lot of people thought we were going to get the invite to the Big East. I think many were somewhat shocked when we didn't. Maybe shocked is too strong a word, perhaps very surprised is a better choice of words.

[flyerfan4life]

Originally Posted by UDGutter2 From my experience, when a source does not want to be divulged, many times, not all, but many times, it is because they are not 100% sure. When I get info like that, I never post it. Sometimes it is correct, sometimes it is not, so I just post it as my opinion, which is all it really is.

Ok. I'll bet you $50 to $2 that he doesn't come to Dayton then? Let me know if you're up for it. Big reward and low risk for you.

[flyerfan4life]

Originally Posted by longtimefan Do you think he's coming to Dayton?

Nobody seems to believe me. Just trying to be helpful and give good info on here. I've never done this before and I've been a member for like 10 years. I'm not just doing it for fun. McNeil has been one of the most coveted recruits we've had in awhile. Just don't want people to keep their hopes up on someone that, AGAIN, isn't coming to Dayton.

[Medford]

We get it, and honestly I doubt anyone really doubts you. My guess is if he was going to come to UD he would have committed to UD by now.



Its the internet, land of high hopes and dashed dreams, you posting that he's not going to come here isn't going to make this thread vanish. Life will move on with or with out Hot Boy. I doubt too many hopes are going to be bruised beyond recognition.

[UDGutter2]

Originally Posted by flyerfan4life Ok. I'll bet you $50 to $2 that he doesn't come to Dayton then? Let me know if you're up for it. Big reward and low risk for you.

I never said he was coming, so a bet on my part would be stupid, no matter the risk/reward. All I said was, sources that don't want to be named usually have a reason, and many times it is because they are unsure, but not all of the time. That is why I never come on here with unnamed sources, as they have been wrong as often as right. I'm sure you fervently believe your source, and while I hope he/she is wrong, the source could be right. But unnamed sources are worth the flip of a coin in the long run.

[steverino015]

Originally Posted by flyerfan4life Nobody seems to believe me. Just trying to be helpful and give good info on here. I've never done this before and I've been a member for like 10 years. I'm not just doing it for fun. McNeil has been one of the most coveted recruits we've had in awhile. Just don't want people to keep their hopes up on someone that, AGAIN, isn't coming to Dayton.

Enough!!!

please for the love of God and all his furry creatures, stop!!

it truly doesn't matter whether you are right or wrong, do you not get it?

[flyerfan4life]

Originally Posted by UDGutter2 I never said he was coming, so a bet on my part would be stupid, no matter the risk/reward. All I said was, sources that don't want to be named usually have a reason, and many times it is because they are unsure, but not all of the time. That is why I never come on here with unnamed sources, as they have been wrong as often as right. I'm sure you fervently believe your source, and while I hope he/she is wrong, the source could be right. But unnamed sources are worth the flip of a coin in the long run.

It's not an unnamed source. I know the person's name. So......I figured you wouldn't want to lose $2.

[flyerfan4life]

Originally Posted by steverino015 Enough!!! please for the love of God and all his furry creatures, stop!! it truly doesn't matter whether you are right or wrong, do you not get it?

I do get it. I know something you don't know and you're not happy about it? I won't share any more inside info on here moving forward. You're right, though, I guess you'll find out in due time. Just figured it would be more appreciated to know whether he's coming now.

[UDGutter2]

Originally Posted by flyerfan4life It's not an unnamed source. I know the person's name. So......I figured you wouldn't want to lose $2.

Yeah, I've know the name of sources myself, who didn't want to be named. If I posted what they told me without naming them, they would be unnamed.

I'm done.

[flyerfan4life]

Something tells me that if I was on here being adamant that I had a source saying he's definitely coming to UD, the responses would have a different flavor. Take off your red & blue glasses. He's not coming to Dayton.

[steverino015]

Originally Posted by flyerfan4life Something tells me that if I was on here being adamant that I had a source saying he's definitely coming to UD, the responses would have a different flavor. Take off your red & blue glasses. He's not coming to Dayton.

no no no, a thousand times no.... if you had posted incessantly, like you are doing now, that he is coming to Dayton... you would still be just as irritating...

the issue is not whether he is coming to Dayton, the issue is why do you insist on repetitive messaging about it? that is what is irritating, I can only speak for myself.... but are you the personality that has to have the last say, is that is?

I want to understand, I really do.... why you feel the need to repost again and again...

[steverino015]

people, I've tried.... I give up.