Benson out 3-6 months with dislocated shoulder

SideshowBob · #1 10-29-2008, 07:08 PM

http://www.daytondailynews.com/blogs.../daytonflyers/

This isn't starting out well. I thought he could really help us this year.

Browns · #2 10-29-2008, 07:18 PM

While this is bad news it does give him a great opportunity to develop his left hand.

longtimefan · #3 10-29-2008, 07:39 PM

All of my favorite teams are cursed.

Dirty Sanchez · #4 10-29-2008, 07:54 PM

I'm beginning to think UD bball is cursed.

Terrible news....I feel horrible for him. I guess this probably answers our question on who will redshirt. Obviously, this hurts the team....Devin will need to step up and deliver.

UDBrian · #5 10-29-2008, 08:14 PM

Sorry to hear this Josh, we met you Saturday and you seemed like a good guy.

I do agree that you can develop a little left hand in this time. We are all thankful it isn't anything that will impact your career long term.

The Fat Tuna · #6 10-29-2008, 08:17 PM

Hopefully it is more on the 3 month side. If he is out for that long he could conceivably be back for February and our run in March.

However, it is probably much more likely that he is simply put on the shelf for the year. I still hope it is only 3 months though so he can get some practice time in during the season with the team.

John R · #7 10-29-2008, 08:20 PM

This has to be the curse of Jim O'Brien.

UDF4N4LIF3 · #8 10-29-2008, 09:18 PM

This is deff not a good thing but, He needs time to bulk up. I think either way Devin was going to come in off the bench over Benson. Benson will be good, But give him a year to bulk up and next year he will be a STRONG Freshman. (If Red-Shirted)

PinehurstFlyer · #9 10-29-2008, 09:23 PM

I dislocated my shoulder many moons ago. It was immobilized for a couple of weeks and then I was back to "almost" normal. I have never had the same range of motion after the accident. Also, once a shoulder is dislocated it is likely to happen over and over again - as i am living proof of that. HOWEVER, there is a surgical option which sews the tendons? together and is a much better permanent solution. Although this, too, will restrict the range of motion, it is much less likely to ever dislocate again. I presume this is what they are doing. Does anyone know for sure? Sometimes, non-surgical treatment is done first and surgery is done if it happens again. I also believe Jim Paxson had a dislocated shoulder in 1980 toward the end of the season. i remember him playing in the NIT against Purdue in a sling. That was one great Flyer.

UDBrian · #10 10-29-2008, 09:39 PM

Just to add a little humor to the bad news. A guy that I used to play league basketball with said he asked this hot woman on a date for the first time. They went to the Y to go swimming, I didn't say it was a hot date, just that she was. He dives into the water and it dislocated his shoulder. She had to drive him to the hospital before it could be put back in place, he was pretty sure it didn't make a great impression.

His shoulder would pop out of socket when we were playing a game but everything was loose enough at that point he could pop it back in and not miss a lot of time

SideshowBob · #11 10-29-2008, 10:10 PM

Tendons get stretched and the probability of popping out again is greatly increased, as documented above. You can often opeerate normally after this happens, but with the fear that it will happen easily a second time. Raising the arms above the head usually is a higher risk movement for a reoccurance, and this is the primary movement in basketball. So, I bet they just decided to have the surgery in order to prevent re-occurances, and the recovery time is 3-6 months.

lhsgolf19 · #12 10-29-2008, 11:58 PM

UD trainer Nate Seymour expects the recovery to be "more toward the six-month side of it. In ideal conditions, he'll be back at the end of the regular season or for the postseason."

"The most important thing is to get that fixed up and get him back as soon as we can so he can continue his development," coach Brian Gregory said.

"I've been really pleased with him during the preseason. He's progressed well and is getting better every day. This is something we'll have to help him through."

http://www.daytondailynews.com/s/con...008spudbb.html

From the looks of it, I expect BG to redshirt Josh, but what do I know.

ClearTheRunwayForWLJ · #13 10-30-2008, 01:20 AM

Red-Shirt him ... what really could he do to improve himself while hurt. This isn't like Chris Wright ... he will likely LOSE weight since he cannot participate in lifting heavy weights.

4 months then another to get in game shape ... as a freshman who has never seen the floor, scrap this year and now you get him as a 23 yr. old senior one day ... its okay.

Don't start with this cursed stuff guys, it is just an excuse. Benson may have played 5 minutes a game this season ... maybe have one decent game like 9 or 10 points in a pinch ... but come on, this injury will not set us back for this season.

Fabreeze is gonna have to step up and play 4-5 minutes a game if someone is in foul trouble ... and I have no problem have a guy stretch the defense and pull 6-9 people out to the three point arc.

We will be fine ... just everyone else stay healthy.

troj · #14 10-30-2008, 07:46 AM

I had a torn labrum and repaired with arthroscopic surgery. I will be totally shocked if he is back even at six months. I was in a sling for 6 weeks. Range of motion not the same, however, shoulder doesnt pop out anymore. Good luck Josh, work hard in rehab.

Ready Action · #15 10-30-2008, 09:39 AM

Shoulder injuries are not fun. Both of mine are screwed up and they jump out all of the time. I can just be reaching for the TV remote and baaaaaam out comes my shoulder. I am so used to it I just live with it as I am too stupid to get 'em fixed.

Didn't Nate Green have some sort of shoulder injury that plagued his last two years as a Flyer? I remember some games where Nate would go after a rebound and out comes his shoulder. Nate would struggle to the bench so the trainer could put the shoulder back into the socket. I know medicine advances at a rapid pace and I hope Josh doesn't suffer like Nate.

UDEE79 · #16 10-30-2008, 10:43 AM

Too many of our guys are getting injured. I hope BG and the staff are reviewing their practice regimun, intensity etc.

bobber · #17 10-30-2008, 10:47 AM

Didn't Jim Paxson dislocate a shoulder vs Cincy?

lilrudy4787 · #18 10-30-2008, 10:48 AM

I really hope we red shirt him, then he can focus on his recovery without losing an year of eligibility.

Viperstick · #19 10-30-2008, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by Ready Action

Didn't Nate Green have some sort of shoulder injury that plagued his last two years as a Flyer? I remember some games where Nate would go after a rebound and out comes his shoulder. Nate would struggle to the bench so the trainer could put the shoulder back into the socket. I know medicine advances at a rapid pace and I hope Josh doesn't suffer like Nate.

Ah, big Nate. It was his frosh year that he had a shoulder separation in like the 6th game of the season. Got a medical redshirt and provided much needed beef up front as a fifth year senior in OPs final season. He'd play with that shoulder brace, but I do remember him having issues with his shoulder at times. Always loved seeing him come into a game, he was our enforcer and he appeared to relish the role.

UDDoug · #20 10-30-2008, 12:25 PM

Pretty certain Nate had the surgery. Seem to recall that during the frosh season when he'd try to practice the shoulder would keep popping back out and they went in to tighten the tendons.

DetroitFlyer · #21 10-30-2008, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by UDEE79

To many of our guys are getting injured. I hope BG and the staff are reviewing their practice regimum, intensity etc.

What good is recruiting super stars if we bring them to camp and injure them so severely that they miss most if not all of the season?

Hard to argue that you should not have very intense and physical practices....

Paul Williams out, Josh Benson out.... Who's next?

It might be time to look at what we are doing to make sure the proper balance between intensity and injury is being maintained....

UDF4N4LIF3 · #22 10-30-2008, 01:20 PM

Paul Williams is not even hurt no more. He got back to 100% about a week or so ago. DaytonDailyNews.com said he only needed a week or so of rest and this was about 1 1/2, 2 weeks ago.

Paul will play at 100% against Capital.

ChampCar · #23 10-30-2008, 01:29 PM

Yes, red-shirt him so that the team can get 4 good years from him instead of only 3.? years.

The Joint · #24 10-30-2008, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by DetroitFlyer

What good is recruiting super stars if we bring them to camp and injure them so severely that they miss most if not all of the season?

Hard to argue that you should not have very intense and physical practices....

Paul Williams out, Josh Benson out.... Who's next?

It might be time to look at what we are doing to make sure the proper balance between intensity and injury is being maintained....

Right, maybe they should serve ice cream at and play video games at practice. Take a trip to Miami and sit by the pool? That would prepare them to play at Marquette in November.

Sorry to be a wiseass, but unless there is something specific to blame someone for, I find the blame game weak.

Sea Bass · #25 10-30-2008, 01:33 PM

feel bad for the young man, he likely would have been just a minor contributor this year but getting injured and rehabbing while missing the games is never fun

Furio · #26 10-30-2008, 02:00 PM

On Nate Green he originally injured the shoulder his senior year of high school.
He reinjured it his freshman year and they finally red shirted him and he had the surgery.
The only plus with Benson being hurt was it came now and not after he had played one game too many for a redshirt year.
It does highlight a risk of a "developmental" red shirt year. Better to save them in case of injury or illness.

longtimefan · #27 10-30-2008, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by The Joint

Right, maybe they should serve ice cream at and play video games at practice. Take a trip to Miami and sit by the pool? That would prepare them to play at Marquette in November.

Sorry to be a wiseass, but unless there is something specific to blame someone for, I find the blame game weak.

I was thinking the same thing. He was hurt going after a rebound. Are we not supposed to allow players to rebound during practice?

UDEE79 · #28 10-30-2008, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by The Joint

Right, maybe they should serve ice cream at and play video games at practice. Take a trip to Miami and sit by the pool? That would prepare them to play at Marquette in November.

Sorry to be a wiseass, but unless there is something specific to blame someone for, I find the blame game weak.

I don't see any blame in his or my post. You just need to reasses the balance between intensity and wearing out or injuring the body. Its a constant evaluation process in any sport played at high levels

College B-Ball Fan · #29 10-30-2008, 03:05 PM

Detroit, I am not as avid a UD Football Fan as you are but I'm pretty sure that Coach Kelly and now Coach Chamberlain also have to regularly deal with injured players. They sometimes get hurt while "hitting" at practice or "being hit" during games. Don't really understand the comment about "recruiting superstars and the injuries" that have followed but my recollection is that injuries occur to athletes at practices and during games. I am sure that BG appreciates the problems associated with losing the likes of CW or Josh but also knows how to run a practice!

Quite truthfully, most teams at all levels lose players to injuries---probably many fans of most teams/programs look to blame somebody. Despite all the "second guessing" about BG and his coaching/methods/injuries, etc. I have never heard anyone associated with athletics raise any of these concerns. Nor have the players, etxc. when asked about it---as Chris Wright was.

The kid got hurt. BG and his staff are trying to get these guys ready to win an a-10 championship against the likes of Charlotte, X, Temple---what should they be doing at practice other than getting ready for very "intense" games. The young man got hurt, let's support him and the team--they are truely the one's that suffer with this loss first hand each day! Go Flyers

Flyer 86 · #30 10-30-2008, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by ClearTheRunwayForWLJ

Red-Shirt him ... what really could he do to improve himself while hurt. This isn't like Chris Wright ... he will likely LOSE weight since he cannot participate in lifting heavy weights.

4 months then another to get in game shape ... as a freshman who has never seen the floor, scrap this year and now you get him as a 23 yr. old senior one day ... its okay.

Don't start with this cursed stuff guys, it is just an excuse. Benson may have played 5 minutes a game this season ... maybe have one decent game like 9 or 10 points in a pinch ... but come on, this injury will not set us back for this season.

Fabreeze is gonna have to step up and play 4-5 minutes a game if someone is in foul trouble ... and I have no problem have a guy stretch the defense and pull 6-9 people out to the three point arc.

We will be fine ... just everyone else stay healthy.

totally agree with this post. Just everyone else keep healthy, and let's hope paul's back by game 5.

Gazoo · #31 10-30-2008, 03:54 PM

I went to HS with a kid that went to the left hand store and they had just sold the last one. He couldn't pick his nose left handed if his life depended on it, let alone shoot or dribble. But he was very athletic and good with the right hand.

The guy broke his right arm during practice one day, nasty compound fracture. Spent 8 weeks at practice doing nothing but left handed dribbling and Mikan drills. He was a freshman at the time.

He got so into it that after recovering he would often finish with his left hand even when he didn't need to just because he was so comfortable doing it. As a big man he would shoot 3's in practice left handed better than right handed (for fun).

priceg75 · #32 10-30-2008, 03:59 PM

As negative as this sounds... better now than in December when his chance at redshirting is burned up.

Better not at all, but if given a remaining choice, better now than later. Hopefully, as others mentioned, it won't be a recurring issue once he comes back.

Tony T 71 · #33 10-30-2008, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by The Joint

Right, maybe they should serve ice cream at and play video games at practice. Take a trip to Miami and sit by the pool? That would prepare them to play at Marquette in November.

Sorry to be a wiseass, but unless there is something specific to blame someone for, I find the blame game weak.

Amen! Injuries happen.

NorthwestFlyer · #34 10-30-2008, 04:34 PM

It sounds like a redshirt may be the best thing and will give him time to build up some more strength when he heals. Don't want him to push it if it may cause more problems down the road and wreck a potentially good basketball career. Josh strikes me as one that has an excellent chance at making it in Europe and may even do better than that. If he pushes it and makes it a recuring injury, he may not get that sort of break and his career would be hindered or lost. So he should rest and rehab it and not necessarily worry about playing this year. We still have Little and Wright to complement Searcy and Huelsman inside. Plus CJ seems ready to get inside a bit.

Question on the redshirt. How does it work as far as the scholarship? Does he have to pay his own way if he is redshirted? I suppose the University would give him financial aid (loan), but what are the rules with the NCAA?

longtimefan · #35 10-30-2008, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by NorthwestFlyer

Question on the redshirt. How does it work as far as the scholarship? Does he have to pay his own way if he is redshirted? I suppose the University would give him financial aid (loan), but what are the rules with the NCAA?

He would still get his scholarship. Players get 5 years to complete 4 years of eligibility. KW, on the other hand, agreed to pay his own way his first year because we didn't have a scholarship for him; then he was on scholarship for the next 4 years.

Swampy Meadows · #36 10-30-2008, 07:05 PM

For those of you who are medically inclined, the future Dr. Younger Swampette weighs in on Josh:

Like they said, probably 3-6 months. Given that it occurred with a shoulder dislocation, Benson most likely got a Bankart Lesion of his labrum, which happens when the humerus (arm bone) basically clunks against the labrum with a dislocation. The problem with shoulder dislocations is that once you do it once, you have something like an 80% chance of doing it again at some point. Add in continued athletic participation and you're at about 110%. Plus the labral tear (the labrum adds stability to the really flexible but really unstably constructed shoulder joint) makes his joint even more unstable.

So while a recreational athlete or non-athletic random person who dislocated their shoulder and tore their labrum probably wouldn't get surgery, it's highly recommended for athletes. And if you think about it, taking these 3-6 months off now may save him several shorter visits to the DL that could add up to more than 3-6 months depending on how many more times he dislocated it...not to mention save him a lot of pain.

There's more info on Bankart lesions here:

http://orthopedics.about.com/cs/gene.../a/bankart.htm

Sid Louick · #37 10-31-2008, 01:01 AM

http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/8...eturn?MSNHPHMA

bobber · #38 10-31-2008, 02:05 AM

I saw the Red and Blue in person and was impressed with Josh's game. He could have been a contributor this year in some games. But, as someone pointed out above, if it had to happen better now than in December or January. That would have cost Josh a whole year of eligibility.

Josh Benson is going to be a real contributor to the Flyers. We'll just have to wait, as will Josh, for that time to come.

bobber · #39 10-31-2008, 02:48 AM

Originally Posted by Swampy Meadows

For those of you who are medically inclined, the future Dr. Younger Swampette weighs in on Josh:

Like they said, probably 3-6 months. Given that it occurred with a shoulder dislocation, Benson most likely got a Bankart Lesion of his labrum, which happens when the humerus (arm bone) basically clunks against the labrum with a dislocation. The problem with shoulder dislocations is that once you do it once, you have something like an 80% chance of doing it again at some point. Add in continued athletic participation and you're at about 110%. Plus the labral tear (the labrum adds stability to the really flexible but really unstably constructed shoulder joint) makes his joint even more unstable.

So while a recreational athlete or non-athletic random person who dislocated their shoulder and tore their labrum probably wouldn't get surgery, it's highly recommended for athletes. And if you think about it, taking these 3-6 months off now may save him several shorter visits to the DL that could add up to more than 3-6 months depending on how many more times he dislocated it...not to mention save him a lot of pain.

There's more info on Bankart lesions here:

http://orthopedics.about.com/cs/gene.../a/bankart.htm

Whoa ..... shades of E=MC2.

UDDoug · #40 10-31-2008, 09:30 AM

Originally Posted by Sid Louick

http://msn.foxsports.com/cbk/story/8...eturn?MSNHPHMA

Hey, Pitt had two starters go down with knee injuries last year. They must be doing something wrong for that to happen.

Seriously, injuries happen in practice. And if you don't practice as close as you can at game speed during practice, you can't be prepared to play at game speed. I'm not aware of any major college or professional team that doesn't spend a significant portion of their practice time conducting full speed scrimmage (with the exception of the red jersey on the quarterback).

singlet_of_truth · #41 10-31-2008, 12:47 PM

Originally Posted by UDDoug

Hey, Pitt had two starters go down with knee injuries last year. They must be doing something wrong for that to happen.

Seriously, injuries happen in practice. And if you don't practice as close as you can at game speed during practice, you can't be prepared to play at game speed. I'm not aware of any major college or professional team that doesn't spend a significant portion of their practice time conducting full speed scrimmage (with the exception of the red jersey on the quarterback).

Weren't those injuries in games? There is a reason football teams (from the pros to high school) spend a signficant amount of time practicing without pads. Basketball isn't any different. Obviously there is a fine balance between getting the team in top notch shape and beating them up to the point of fatique, burn out and injury.

There have been enough injuries and late season fades to question whether the practices should be adjusted to maintain throughout an entire season. I'm not in practice so I have no clue as to the intensity of the drills and conditioning - but it is certainly a topic worth discussing especially given BG's reputation for intense practices. I would hope that BG and staff have discussed the issue.

Redshirt or not, this is bad news. It sounds like these types of injuries result in more limited range of motion post-surgery (not good at all for your shooting hand) and a tendency of reoccurence. Let's hope he can put this one behind him and make a full recovery. This sounds like something that could be career altering.

shocka43 · #42 11-01-2008, 12:32 AM

It seems as though things have changed a bit since my college days. It used to be from the first day of the season, coaching contact, you had ten days where you could be coached, but you couldn't touch a basketball. No dribbling, passing, shooting, no nothing, strictly conditioning After that 10 days, you could get into your normal practice routine.

Those first 10 days sucked, but you expected it. I don't know what they are now, as they may be the same, but it seems as though it isn't 10 days anymore. Correct me if I am wrong.

When you do get into practice, you have to go hard. You obviously play like you practice. Injuries happen and a shoulder injury sucks and has a ton of rehab to get it back where it needs to be. Someone else can agree that something like a rotator injury can be one of the most nagging and PITA injuries there is...it flat out sucks.

You feel bad for JB, but you have to redshirt him. If you don't it would be a huge mistake. You owe it to the kid not to waste a year of eligibility, on a glimmer of hope he may play in a post season game. Let him get 100% and get stronger and more mature years on a kid that is a year up on future competition. We know how players are....If a doc gives a kid a green light to play based on the kids assessment of his own pain, the kid will come back. I know I came back off an ankle injury when the trainer said, you go when you feel like you can. I went early and the ankle wasn't the same all season. If he is redshirted, the possibility of him coming back before he is 100% is virtually nil.

Bill McPeek · #43 11-01-2008, 10:13 AM

Originally Posted by shocka43

You feel bad for JB, but you have to redshirt him. If you don't it would be a huge mistake. You owe it to the kid not to waste a year of eligibility, on a glimmer of hope he may play in a post season game. Let him get 100% and get stronger and more mature years on a kid that is a year up on future competition. We know how players are....If a doc gives a kid a green light to play based on the kids assessment of his own pain, the kid will come back. I know I came back off an ankle injury when the trainer said, you go when you feel like you can. I went early and the ankle wasn't the same all season. If he is redshirted, the possibility of him coming back before he is 100% is virtually nil.

Couldn't agree more, Shocka. It makes the most sense, at this point, to redshirt him. It is best for him and the program.

UDDoug · #44 11-01-2008, 01:00 PM

Originally Posted by singlet_of_truth

There have been enough injuries and late season fades to question whether the practices should be adjusted to maintain throughout an entire season.

If it's a wear and tear / fatigue issue it doesn't matter if the injury occurs in a game or in practice (Pitt / Benson).

I've never really bought the late season fade discussion. Record hasn't been as good in conference as out, but I don't think it's a fade issue as much as it is fewer home games and better competition.

I also don't completely agree that UD has had significantly more injuries than other teams. Little and Wright last year (both in games), Scott each of the two prior years. Bennett had leg issues, but he came to college with those from soccer playing days. That's pretty much about it.

Under OP, Hall had a stress fracture in his leg, Finn broke a hand, Green separated a shoulder, Hoskins went down with an ankle injury, Osborne had a shoulder or leg issue that cost him his frosh year before transferring, Doliboa had a back injury that cost him a fourth year of playing at WSU and perhaps UD an NCAA win or two, Ashman had a foot injury that slowed him the last third or so of that same year (his senior year), Edwin Young went down with an ankle injury in the A10 tourney and wasn't healty in post season. That's just the ones I can remember off the top of my head.

Somebody would have to run some comparisons, but I think the UD injury rate is pretty much the norm on the injury front and it is not a lot different than in the more recent past. And stress fracture type injuries in the leg and foot are seemingly becoming much more common, perhaps due to style of play.

SideshowBob · #45 11-01-2008, 01:30 PM

Reevaluate practice because a player pulled his arm out of socket going for a rebound?

You think the coaches are going to get together and ask the players to be gentle with the rebounding?

Why not include 75% effort in all phases of the game.

Wouldn't 60% effort give us a better chance of pulling through healthy?

That will prepare us nicely. Injuries are random, and will not occur at a predictable rate over the course of a season. Go out and play the game. There is only so much that can be controlled.

Furio · #46 11-01-2008, 03:28 PM

The answer to the injury problem is simple.
Bubble wrap

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jXl8TOOngc

Is already idiot tested and approved.

hawkoooo · #47 11-01-2008, 06:36 PM

well assuming he is red-shirted, and assuming he makes a full recovery, this could be really good for the program in the long run.

benson will now be a part of that mythical payne/benson front court for two years instead of one...

Glen Clark · #48 11-02-2008, 10:04 PM

"That's just the ones I can remember off the top of my head."

I also remember a guard (Josh Posterino?) hospitalized in Puerto Rico.

UDDoug · #49 11-03-2008, 08:43 AM

You are right. Andy Metzler had to play point against West Virginia in the finals, and perhaps a game or two afterward.

College B-Ball Fan · #50 11-03-2008, 09:00 AM

Guys, after we're done analyzing whether BG and staff should stop the players from playing/practicing so hard because they moght get injured---could we get onto the more important yearly discussion that deals with why UD has so many transfers compared to "other" nameless programs? Just thought I'd get out in front on this one--I know that no one has anounced his intention to transfer yet---but clearly if/when it occurs, they'll be plenty of folks who look to blame someone!

Fudd · #51 11-03-2008, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by College B-Ball Fan

Guys, after we're done analyzing whether BG and staff should stop the players from playing/practicing so hard because they moght get injured---could we get onto the more important yearly discussion that deals with why UD has so many transfers compared to "other" nameless programs? Just thought I'd get out in front on this one--I know that no one has anounced his intention to transfer yet---but clearly if/when it occurs, they'll be plenty of folks who look to blame someone!

Yeah, I miss that criticism. It was a slam dunk after someone asked all of the A10 members to list their transfers on the A10 board. The number of transfers in this era is astounding. I'm sure Archdeacon still thinks BG is a meanie.

longtimefan · #52 11-03-2008, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by College B-Ball Fan

Guys, after we're done analyzing whether BG and staff should stop the players from playing/practicing so hard because they moght get injured---could we get onto the more important yearly discussion that deals with why UD has so many transfers compared to "other" nameless programs? Just thought I'd get out in front on this one--I know that no one has anounced his intention to transfer yet---but clearly if/when it occurs, they'll be plenty of folks who look to blame someone!

I know one person who won't be whining about the transfers - thanks to Chris.

Binnie Bombs 33 · #53 11-03-2008, 03:29 PM

Where is tman?

NorthwestFlyer · #54 11-06-2008, 11:31 AM

Article on Benson

http://www.daytondailynews.com/s/con...spaudible.html

San Diego Flyer · #55 11-06-2008, 12:52 PM

Originally Posted by College B-Ball Fan

Guys, after we're done analyzing whether BG and staff should stop the players from playing/practicing so hard because they moght get injured---could we get onto the more important yearly discussion that deals with why UD has so many transfers compared to "other" nameless programs? Just thought I'd get out in front on this one--I know that no one has anounced his intention to transfer yet---but clearly if/when it occurs, they'll be plenty of folks who look to blame someone!

Is there such a thing as an "anticipated ENZO" ? Let's get it over with---practice induced injuries, year-end tranfers, WSU.

Furio · #56 11-07-2008, 10:42 AM

Interesting info in the newspaper (DDN) today concerning Benson. Apparently this was a problem that started in high school. Sounds similar to the situation that Nate Green had. So much for the conspiracy theories.

UDBrian · #57 11-07-2008, 10:54 AM

I saw Josh before the game started and he had a very disappointed look on his face. But, it is better to have it taken care of now rather than suffer a major injury later in his career.