Final Polls

[N2663R]

Final Coaches Poll: (sorry if this was posted elsewhere) BTW, women are 17th


1 Duke (29) 35-4 773
2 Wisconsin 36-4 739
3 Kentucky (2) 38-1 720
4 Arizona 34-4 659
5 Notre Dame 32-6 614
6 Gonzaga 35-3 608
7 Michigan St 27-12 572
8 Virginia 30-4 525
9 Villanova 33-3 500
10 Louisville 27-9 474
11 Wichita St 30-5 452
12 North Carolina 26-12 403
13 Oklahoma 24-11 360
14 Northern Iowa 31-4 350
15 Utah 26-9 342
16 Maryland 28-7 331
17 Kansas 27-9 330
18 West Virginia 25-10 286
19 Iowa State 25-9 243
20 Arkansas 27-9 143
21 Baylor 24-10 112
22 Xavier 23-14 106
23 Butler 23-11 89
24 NC State 22-14 88
25 Oregon 26-10 56


Others receiving votes: SMU 55, Georgetown 45, UCLA 39, Virginia Commonwealth 13, San Diego St 12, Ohio State 10, Dayton 8, Iowa 7, Providence 3, Purdue 2, Cincinnati 2, LSU 2, UAB 1, Murray St 1

	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

[priceg75]

Women end up similar to the men in 2014... finished tied for 18th a place or two behind a team they beat in the tournament.

[NovaFlyer]

Not bad for a team with just 7 players, but certainly could have been somewhere in the top 25 too.

[San Diego Flyer]

That poll is just short of ridiculous. Seems there are a few coaches that tired of hearing about the wins our 7 man gang was racking up. Or maybe they bought into the Cooley whining about home courts.

[Flyer1995]

Originally Posted by San Diego Flyer That poll is just short of ridiculous. Seems there are a few coaches that tired of hearing about the wins our 7 man gang was racking up. Or maybe they bought into the Cooley whining about home courts.

I wouldn't quite say rediculous, we are right there with teams that were in the round of 32 LIKE OSU and IOWA. I don't agree with Xavier at all they beat two mediocre teams while we beat two much better teams in Bosie and Providence. NC state should totally be above them and so should many others as well!
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	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

[Gilchrist's Autograph 2]

Too much emphasis on end of year tournament. Mich State - 12 losses at #7.
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[San Diego Flyer]

Giving this ranking some more thought, I think there were some macro issues with the way our season unfolded, aside from the voting.

One issue was that the media adopted VCU as the poster boy for the A10 from the git-go.

Secondly, the voters and sports heads viewed the A10 as weaker by large margin from last year (some validity in that as evidenced by our collective poor A10 performances in the NCAA and NIT).

Third, when VCU plummeted primarily due to injuries, the coaches didn't see an heir apparent in the rest of the A10 and viewed the A10 as a one-trick pony.

Then our 6/7 man rotation began to get footing with unexpected wins and there was a bit of fascination with the Flyers. But I think as the year went on and the publicity grew, the fascination turned to a bit of jealousy on the part of some coaches. As if the success was a bit of a circus act. We got virtually no credit for a second place A10 league and tournament finish. Then the Selection Committee kicked dirt on us with the #68 tag.

Lastly, the talking heads actually were critical of our two wins and a close loss to Oklahoma (one possession game with under a minute) calling out the "home court" advantage.

Our ranking should be in the 22 to 25 range, but the bias that was apparent re the A10 and our 7 man squad leading up to the top 25 coaches vote made the outcome pretty predictable.

I believe Archie when he says there will never be a finish like we just had ever again. It
was accomplished out of dire necessity. Too bad many in the b-ball world missed it. Instead of shrugging it off, they should make a movie out of it.

2 cents

[sheg]

UD was barely getting votes at the end of the regular season (and deservedly so). They probably deserved a rank in the 30-35 range. They finished in the round of 32. They weren't the worst team in the round of 32, but they weren't the best. So somewhere around maybe 28. RPI was in the 30 range. Final BPI of 26.

They were 32 in this poll. I really don't see any disrespect here.

[Radar]

Originally Posted by San Diego Flyer Giving this ranking some more thought, I think there were some macro issues with the way our season unfolded, aside from the voting. One issue was that the media adopted VCU as the poster boy for the A10 from the git-go. Secondly, the voters and sports heads viewed the A10 as weaker by large margin from last year (some validity in that as evidenced by our collective poor A10 performances in the NCAA and NIT). Third, when VCU plummeted primarily due to injuries, the coaches didn't see an heir apparent in the rest of the A10 and viewed the A10 as a one-trick pony. Then our 6/7 man rotation began to get footing with unexpected wins and there was a bit of fascination with the Flyers. But I think as the year went on and the publicity grew, the fascination turned to a bit of jealousy on the part of some coaches. As if the success was a bit of a circus act. We got virtually no credit for a second place A10 league and tournament finish. Then the Selection Committee kicked dirt on us with the #68 tag. Lastly, the talking heads actually were critical of our two wins and a close loss to Oklahoma (one possession game with under a minute) calling out the "home court" advantage. Our ranking should be in the 22 to 25 range, but the bias that was apparent re the A10 and our 7 man squad leading up to the top 25 coaches vote made the outcome pretty predictable. I believe Archie when he says there will never be a finish like we just had ever again. It was accomplished out of dire necessity. Too bad many in the b-ball world missed it. Instead of shrugging it off, they should make a movie out of it. 2 cents

In other words, voters were constantly looking for ways to keep the Flyers on the outside looking in...

But as you say, Archie made **** sure he used the podium at his last presser to remind everyone one more time.