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Old 01-10-2015, 01:19 PM
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LaSalle 33 GDub 19 at the half
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Dukes up 5 on Rhody. League scores going our way early
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Wake up 3 on BG/GT. Come on, Yellow Jackets!
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Make that "up 5" with 2:00 to go.
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Going between the LaSalle - GW and Kentucky - A&M games. A&M holding a 3 pt lead at the half but Kentucky came roaring back from 11 down. Surprised by how easily LaSalle seems to be handling GW.
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These early A-10 games today are REALLY going our way. Had no expectation of SJU beating VCU but the other two are excellent results. GW is toast and URI is headed there
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Old 01-10-2015, 02:33 PM
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GW really isn't very impressive. They were lucky to beat a very weak SLU team at home earlier in the week. And now they get absolutely hammered by a mediocre LaSalle team.
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GW losing is official and URI has roared back against the Dukes. SJU is respectable at VCU
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Boston University lost by 1 63-62 on a layup with 2 seconds left. Ga Tech lost. We need our out of conference opponents to step up!
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A&M doing everything they can to lose a winnable game

Tied at 53 at the end of regulation. Free throw shooting by A&M has been terrible. Less than 50%.

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Kentucky and A&M heading into OT. A&M only hit 41% of its FTs but Kentucky only shot 26% from the floor.
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The difference between UD and Kentucky: we didn't need OT to beat both Ole Miss and TA&M
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The Flyers have done something Kentucky couldn't do, beat Texas A&M and Ole Miss in regulation
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The Aggies blew this game at the FT line. A horrid 10-21. Should have won in regulation.
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The Aggies blew this game at the FT line. A horrid 10-21. Should have won in regulation.
A&M now 13-25 at the line...but still up 2 with 18 secs to go
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Kentucky and A&M heading into OT. A&M only hit 41% of its FTs but Kentucky only shot 26% from the floor.
26% is higher than their graduation rate.
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2nd OT for A&M. If they could hit FTs, they could have won this in regulation or in the 1st OT.
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Horrible play on the last possession by A&M.

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SJU is respectable at VCU

Check that! SJU now down by 24.
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Duquesne with horrible game-end clock management. Inbounded the ball after 2 made URI FTs with @ 8-1/2 seconds to go, took nearly 3 seconds to get across midcourt, and then didn't take their final shot until there was @ 1.5 secs left. Left no chance for a rebound/stickback.

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Horrible play on the last possession by A&M.

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Ya beat me to it, but I agree 100%. Putrid.
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Horrible play on the last possession by A&M.

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Prime example of a selfish player who is shooting 25% from 3pt, using up all the clock to shoot a 30 ft 3pt shot when they only needed one free throw. And the shot doesn't draw iron. Should have taken it straight to the jar.
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A&M had opportunities to win but did not.
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Prime example of a selfish player who is shooting 25% from 3pt, using up all the clock to shoot a 30 ft 3pt shot when they only needed one free throw. And the shot doesn't draw iron. Should have taken it straight to the jar.
Agreed. But, when you p!$$-away that much of the game clock with under 10 seconds to go, you have no choice but to heave a prayer from 30 feet. It would have taken him 2 seconds to get to the rim from 30-35 feet out, and there was < 2 secs on the clock when he let that shot fly.

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It appeared to me his methodical trip down the court was timed so he had no choice but to jack up a shot. I actually fault the coach. 6 seconds is plenty of time to take the ball hard to the other end and to the hoop. He should make the desired option clear to all 5 players.

There are tons of examples where players take the ball end to end in less than 4 seconds.
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This is fun hypotheticals but if UD just, wins, we have nothing to worry about come SS. Top 50,Top 100, Road/neutral, RPI, head to head, SOS, NOTHING will matter. Just win Baby.
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Butler administers a Xavier beating within earshot of a Hinkle Fieldhouse porcelain landmark.

Butler 88
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Xavier now dwelling within striking distance of the Big East cellar.
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Butler administers a Xavier beating within earshot of a Hinkle Fieldhouse porcelain landmark.

Butler 88
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Xavier now dwelling within striking distance of the Big East cellar.
I would hate to be a plumbing fixture in Hinkle about now.
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Davidson looks very strong with the rout of St. Louis. 89-54

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It appeared to me his methodical trip down the court was timed so he had no choice but to jack up a shot. I actually fault the coach. 6 seconds is plenty of time to take the ball hard to the other end and to the hoop. He should make the desired option clear to all 5 players.

There are tons of examples where players take the ball end to end in less than 4 seconds.
Tyus Edney's mad dash for UCLA in the 1995 NCAA tournament took less than 4.8 seconds. TAMU could have gotten a lot better shot in 6 seconds than a 30-35 footer.
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Saturday - a full slate

1/10/15

A-10 scores:
Dayton 76 @ Fordham 58
George Washington 50 @ LaSalle 63
Rhode Island 61 @ Duquesne 60
St Joe's74 @ #20 Virginia Commonwealth 89
St Louis 54 @ Davidson 89

OOC opponents:
Alabama A&M 86 @ Mississippi Valley State 73
#1 Kentucky 70 @ Texas A&M 64 (2OT)
Vanderbilt 70 @ #23 Arkansas 82
South Carolina 49 @ Ole Miss 65
Cincinnati 56 @ UConn 62
Georgia Tech 69 @ Wake Forest 76
Boston College 56 @ Miami (FL) 60
Ohio 54 @ Bowling Green 69
Eastern Michigan 81 @ Miami (OH) 82 (OT)
Lafayette 63 @ Boston U 62

Also . . .
DePaul comes crashing back to earth:
DePaul 64 @ #8 Villanova 81
And:
Xavier 76 @ Butler 88

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Games for Sunday, Jan 11:

UMass (-2) @ George Mason
Bonnies (+5) @ Richmond

Other games of interest:
SMU (Bubblicious) (-13) @ UCF (potential road upset? not likely, but its a slow day)
Illinois (bubbly) (+3) @ Nebraska (struggling to maintain the mojo from last season)
Stanford (bubbly) (-6.5) @ USC
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Butler administers a Xavier beating within earshot of a Hinkle Fieldhouse porcelain landmark.

Butler 88
Xavier 76

Xavier now dwelling within striking distance of the Big East cellar.
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I would hate to be a plumbing fixture in Hinkle about now.
Only the "Die-hards of the die-hards" get this.

How freaking awesome.

Couldn't happen to a better bunch.

Zip'em up!!
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Lone game on the A-10 slate on Tuesday will have massive implications come A-10 tourney/seeding time. Im assuming we root for URI since we get them at home and this is a chance for VCU to take an "L"
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NC State over Duke is of mild interest to Flyer fans. We need coach Gottfried to stay employed by the Wolfpack for a nice long time.
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Tyus Edney's mad dash for UCLA in the 1995 NCAA tournament took less than 4.8 seconds. TAMU could have gotten a lot better shot in 6 seconds than a 30-35 footer.
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Our own Scoochie has scored one layup in a little over 3 seconds, and several more under 6 seconds---starting at about our ft line which is probably about right for catching a pass from the inbound or a steal and taking it all the way. One documented example was after Vee Sanford made the game winning shot against OSU, Arron Craft took the inbounds ball the distance in 5 seconds.

I think Kendall can catch an inbound pass and get a charging call at the other end in a nanosecond.

The kid from A&M knew exactly what he was about to do. He wanted to be a hero.

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That job is definitely a threat. Hope they are a top 5 seed in March.

Quite a job they did on Duke, who was anemic from the field. NCST with 10 Blocks didn't help.

And NCST shot the rock like the Flyers (so they must be good )
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Sunday results

1/11/15

No OOC opponents scheduled today

Two A-10 games in the books:
UMass 66 @ George Mason 62
St Bonaventure 41 @ Richmond 60

The mighty have fallen:
#2 Duke 75 @ NC State 87
#4 Wisconsin 62 @ Rutgers 67

Some teams (besides Dayton) that are quietly having good seasons:
Colorado State (14-2)
Green Bay (14-3)
Old Dominion (13-2)
Wyoming (13-2)
Valparaiso (13-3)
LSU (12-3)
St Mary's (12-3)
Temple (12-5)
Alabama (11-3)
Evansville (11-4)
Wofford (11-4)
Northeastern (11-5)
UTEP (11-5)
Buffalo (10-4)
Tulsa (10-4)

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That job is definitely a threat. Hope they are a top 5 seed in March.

Quite a job they did on Duke, who was anemic from the field. NCST with 10 Blocks didn't help.

And NCST shot the rock like the Flyers (so they must be good )
I doubt that Gottfried is anywhere close to being fired, however, I know nothing about NCSU or their expectation level.

Although I suppose that two straight round of 64's has some of their fans frustrated.

Gottfried is in his 4th year: Sweet 16, round of 64, and round of 64.
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If you google college basketball coaches on the hot seat, several of the same names keep popping up in articles as far as the power 5 and the big non-BCS jobs are concerned.

I skimmed a few of the articles.

These jobs caught my attention, I didn't review each coach's resume/situation:

Indiana, Purdue, Maryland, St. John's, Seton Hall, DePaul, Georgia Tech, Tennessee, Alabama, Oklahoma State, Texas A&M, UNLV, and Washington.

Indiana, Purdue, and Maryland would concern me the most.

Interestingly, Texas A&M coach Billy Kennedy has apparently been diagnosed with early onset Parkinson's disease, and one recruit told CBS.com's Gary Parrish that that diagnosis was used against BK during that player's recruitment by other competing schools. BK says that he has no symptoms so far.

College basketball is a tough business, sheesh.


http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-...64--ncaab.html

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The mighty have fallen:
#2 Duke 75 @ NC State 87
#4 Wisconsin 62 @ Rutgers 67

Add:
#7 Arizona 56 @ Oregon State 58

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If you google college basketball coaches on the hot seat, several of the same names keep popping up in articles as far as the power 5 and the big non-BCS jobs are concerned.

I skimmed a few of the articles.

These jobs caught my attention, I didn't review each coach's resume/situation:

Indiana, Purdue, Maryland, St. John's, Seton Hall, DePaul, Georgia Tech, Tennessee, Alabama, Oklahoma State, Texas A&M, UNLV, and Washington.

Indiana, Purdue, and Maryland would concern me the most.

Interestingly, Texas A&M coach Billy Kennedy has apparently been diagnosed with early onset Parkinson's disease, and one recruit told CBS.com's Gary Parrish that that diagnosis was used against BK during that player's recruitment by other competing schools. BK says that he has no symptoms so far.

College basketball is a tough business, sheesh.


http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/ncaab-...64--ncaab.html
Archie will wait for a top 2-3 job in a BCS conference.

ACC = Duke, Syracuse, Louisville, North Carolina, NC State
Big 12 = Kansas, Texas
Big East = don't think he would consider Big East but potentially Georgetown, Villanova
Big Ten = Ohio State, Michigan State, Michigan, Maryland, Indiana, Wisconsin
Pac 12 = Arizona, UCLA
SEC = Kentucky, Florida

So 15-20 schools Archie would strongly consider. Just don't see him taking a a G Tech or Purdue or Cal or Tenn or Alabama or DePaul or Washington or Oklahoma State.

He will wait like Sean Miller for the perfect school where he can compete for a national championship every year.
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Great List. I might add Oregon to the list due to their corporate ties to Nike but you nailed it.
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Archie will wait for a top 2-3 job in a BCS conference.

ACC = Duke, Syracuse, Louisville, North Carolina, NC State
Big 12 = Kansas, Texas
Big East = don't think he would consider Big East but potentially Georgetown, Villanova
Big Ten = Ohio State, Michigan State, Michigan, Maryland, Indiana, Wisconsin
Pac 12 = Arizona, UCLA
SEC = Kentucky, Florida

So 15-20 schools Archie would strongly consider. Just don't see him taking a a G Tech or Purdue or Cal or Tenn or Alabama or DePaul or Washington or Oklahoma State.

He will wait like Sean Miller for the perfect school where he can compete for a national championship every year.
Great list, but you have to add Pittsburgh. They would probably go after Sean first since he played there, but the Pitt job may be as enticing as any in the country to the Millers since it is so close to the their hometown.

Totally agree that Archie is a "one-move" coach and the next job will be one that he plans on staying at.
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So there's some game going on down in Dallas this evening, you might have heard. Anyhoo, its pretty much shut down college basketball for the evening. Monday is typically a slow night, but tonight, only low level, non football conferences are playing.

Alabama A&M @ Arkansas Pine-Bluff.

After the Bama A&M game, I thought despite poor coaching that they had enough size and perimeter shooting to be decent in their conference. They play the typical SWAC OOC, meaning that nearly every game was a road "buy" game, which translates into a loss, just about the entire SWAC is over 300 in the RPI. Bama A&M has now won their last 2 conference games, one at home, one on the road by a decent margin. Would be nice to see them pick up the pace and maybe get over .500 in conference play. The rpi will still suck, but it could spell the difference in a slot or two for UD, maybe.

Sagrain has them as a 4.2 pt underdog in tonight's road game.
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Archie will wait for a top 2-3 job in a BCS conference.

ACC = Duke, Syracuse, Louisville, North Carolina, NC State
Big 12 = Kansas, Texas
Big East = don't think he would consider Big East but potentially Georgetown, Villanova
Big Ten = Ohio State, Michigan State, Michigan, Maryland, Indiana, Wisconsin
Pac 12 = Arizona, UCLA
SEC = Kentucky, Florida

So 15-20 schools Archie would strongly consider. Just don't see him taking a a G Tech or Purdue or Cal or Tenn or Alabama or DePaul or Washington or Oklahoma State.

He will wait like Sean Miller for the perfect school where he can compete for a national championship every year.
I think Indiana and Pitt are real possibilities to be open this offseason. You wonder, with Indiana's ego, if they would be open to hiring Archie based on the strength of a single Elite 8 visit. Crean took his team to the Final Four at Marquette, and got his team a mid-range seed three straight years before he was plucked.

They had the chance to get Crean after the Mike Davis era which was post-Final 4, but passed.

Pitt and NC State definitely scare me, but it seems like NC State is on track for another tournament appearance, so I would doubt that Gottfried is in trouble there.
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Good post Glen

Originally Posted by Glen Clark View Post
1/11/15

Some teams (besides Dayton) that are quietly having good seasons:
Colorado State (14-2)
Green Bay (14-3)
Old Dominion (13-2)
Wyoming (13-2)
Valparaiso (13-3)
LSU (12-3)
St Mary's (12-3)
Temple (12-5)
Alabama (11-3)
Evansville (11-4)
Wofford (11-4)
Northeastern (11-5)
UTEP (11-5)
Buffalo (10-4)
Tulsa (10-4)

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And why ARE they having a QUIET good season?? Anybody?

Because only two of them are from Power 5 Conferences.
It's not a level playing field as we already know.
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If Archie continues along the path he is on, who's to say he doesn't think he has found the place now? One elite 8 (which are rare for just about any program) in three years and a terrific team again this year despite being woefully shorthanded. He is just getting started here and he has to feel pretty good about the prospects...just pay the man and who is to say he doesn't stay here for some time? And to those who are unsure whether we should pay him that much, fr the first time in a long time, we do not feel like the underdog, but that we truly are a player. The last thing we need as we are establishing this is a disruption. It is a risk because it is a huge commitment, but I believe it is the right course of action. We need to stop acting like the stepping stone and treat it like the destination! Don't know if this will happen but I hope it does...
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Dixon recently signed an extension that takes him thru 2023. Obviously there are likely buy out options, but I'm sure its expensive. They've been to the NCAA every season that Dixon has been at Pitt with the exception of 2012. Granted, they haven't been to the sweet 16 since '09, but in general, it seems like they do things the right way and are pretty darn successful. I think we'd settle for the kind of success that Dixon has had since taking over the Pitt job from Ben Howland.

Tom Crean took over a terrible situation. Its taken some time for him to build up IU back to what it was, but they reached the Sweet 16 both in 2012 & 2013. They had a down year last season, but seem to be on track for a potential NCAA this season (probably short at the moment, so they've got some work to do, but w/n range). Crean rubs a lot of people the wrong way, and there have been a handful of off the court embarrassments, but I'd be surprised if they parted ways this season unless the wheels just completely fall apart. Don't know his contract situation, but I'd guess he got a hefty raise/extension after those sweet 16 bids, probably not cheap to buy him out at this point, just a guess though.

Archie would kill it at either school, they'd love him at IU.

Only Archie knows what Archie wants. You could tell his feelings for UD were genuine last season; he appreciated that UD was talking extension with him even when A-10 play started out rough, I think that is a big reason he didn't even kick the tires on any of the jobs that wanted to at leas talk to him, if not hire him. I say we enjoy the ride, for however long it lasts. I don't think he'll be at UD forever, guy appears to be a coaching stud; just hope he doesn't leave for a mid-level power 5 program. On the good side, unlike the last two coaching searches, I think UD feels like it has some good potential coaches on Archie's current staff. Don't think they wanted anything to do with BG's assistants when he went to Tech, Jirsa was in the conversation, but they correctly went in a different direction.
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Where is Archie's wife from? That could have some pull.

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If Archie continues along the path he is on, who's to say he doesn't think he has found the place now? One elite 8 (which are rare for just about any program) in three years and a terrific team again this year despite being woefully shorthanded. He is just getting started here and he has to feel pretty good about the prospects...just pay the man and who is to say he doesn't stay here for some time? And to those who are unsure whether we should pay him that much, fr the first time in a long time, we do not feel like the underdog, but that we truly are a player. The last thing we need as we are establishing this is a disruption. It is a risk because it is a huge commitment, but I believe it is the right course of action. We need to stop acting like the stepping stone and treat it like the destination! Don't know if this will happen but I hope it does...
I think you only have to look at Sean Miller for the answer. Why was Xavier not a destination job for Sean? What did perennial power Arizona have to offer? We might get lucky and have a Mark Few or Dana Altman in Arch. I think in the long run (10 years?) Arch would like to compete on the same stage as his brother.
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Baka a & m wins on a three near or at the buzzer for their third win in a row.
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Baka a & m wins on a three near or at the buzzer for their third win in a row.

Alabama A&M 51 @ Arkansas-Pine Bluff 48
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On the good side, unlike the last two coaching searches, I think UD feels like it has some good potential coaches on Archie's current staff. Don't think they wanted anything to do with BG's assistants when he went to Tech, Jirsa was in the conversation, but they correctly went in a different direction.
I thought Jirsa was an OP assistant who went to Marshall after BG was hired (and he only last a few years there so was a good thing UD didn't go in that direction!)
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Archie will wait for a top 2-3 job in a BCS conference.

ACC = Duke, Syracuse, Louisville, North Carolina, NC State
Big 12 = Kansas, Texas
Big East = don't think he would consider Big East but potentially Georgetown, Villanova
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SEC = Kentucky, Florida

So 15-20 schools Archie would strongly consider. Just don't see him taking a a G Tech or Purdue or Cal or Tenn or Alabama or DePaul or Washington or Oklahoma State.

He will wait like Sean Miller for the perfect school where he can compete for a national championship every year.

Who knows, he may have that right here in Dayton if he keeps this up. Who says you can't compete for a national championship every year from Dayton. Huggy did it every year with the Bearcats. UC had nothing but an old tradition before BH turned them around. We are seeing a revolution in UD hoops as we speak. Go Flyers.

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He wanted to be a hero, and wound-up being a goat, instead. Too baa-aa-aa-aad for him.🐐
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Glen - East night. Things get busy again tonight. Thanks again but it looks like Post got pirated into a different direction!!!
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After a slow night in hoops, things pick back up tonight:

#19 Arkansas (-3.5) @ Tennessee
#17 VCU (-3.5) @ Rhody (7:30 CBSN)
Miss St (+12) @ aTm
UConn (PK) @ Tulsa

Now that UD is on the verge of being ranked, there are a lot of games that could help bump UD into the rankings if they can win both this week:

Penn St (+9) @ Indiana
#24 Okie State (+7.5) @ #9 Kansas

Michigan (+10) @ Ohio St OSU is slightly ahead of UD in both polls, ranked #25 in one of them I believe, should be an interesting scene as I'm sure the football team will be honored, against their main rival non the less.

Butler (+3) @ #21 Seton Hall
#18 Oklahoma (+2.5) @ #16 West Virginia
#23 Northern Iowa (-9) @ Bradley
Bama (+4) @ South Carolina, Bama is getting some points in the polls

GTown (-6.5) @ DePaul OP has his team shooting and making a bunch of 3s, can they pick up another big home win as they continue to play Big East spoiler? Can't remember if Gtown is still picking up votes, they were ranked not too long ago before losing to X

Iowa (+4.5) @ Minny, 2 teams that are very bubbly at the moment
UNLV (+4) @ Boise St, 2 more teams that are very bubbly at the moment

If in your in search of a game, there should be more than enough to wet your appetite.
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Anyone else watching VCU at Rhode Island? Rhode Island has been handling Havoc but VCU just tied it up.
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Agree. A bit conflicted. I want us on top of the A10 and a Rhody win would help, but I want VCU ranked so when we beat them it helps us. I am really enjoying this game. A good RI run then a strong VCU run. This should go down to the last second. Hurley is really into this game.
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Tough loss by Rhody. They collapsed the last 3 minutes of the game. They are unlikely to be in an at-large conversation unless they sweep the rest of the games they have against the top of the conference. Amazingly, they don't have a single top 100 win.
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Top 25 Teams that lost tonight:

No. 18 Oklahoma
No. 19 Arkansas
No. 21 Seton Hall
N0. 24 Oklahoma State

There's room at the Inn!
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I hear that Hurley is very intense on the sidelines, I've never seen him coach, I wonder if there are any videos capturing his intensity?
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No. 18 Oklahoma
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Add No. 4 Duke

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Tuesday action

1/13/15

A-10 score:
#17 Virginia Commonwealth 65 @ Rhode Island 60

OOC opponents:
#19 Arkansas 69 @ Tennessee 74
Mississippi State 70 @ Texas A&M 74
UConn 58 @ Tulsa 66

And:
Coach K is stuck on 997 wins as Duke's 41 game home court winning streak is snapped by the hot shooting Miami Hurricanes 90-74

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And one more score of note. After 2 OT wins over UD opponents, UK finally figured it out:

Kentucky 86
Missouri 37

Not that Mizzou is that good this year - they're not. But it makes our win over Ole Miss and the close loss to A&M look all the better when UK does what UK is supposed to do (i.e. put a can of whoop-@$$ on their opponents).
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And one more score of note. After 2 OT wins over UD opponents, UK finally figured it out:

Kentucky 86
Missouri 37

Not that Mizzou is that good this year - they're not. But it makes our win over Ole Miss and the close loss to A&M look all the better when UK does what UK is supposed to do (i.e. put a can of whoop-@$$ on their opponents).
We beat Texas A&M, unless the NCAA has since ruled that the tip in at the buzzer was no good.
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Tough loss by Rhody. They collapsed the last 3 minutes of the game. They are unlikely to be in an at-large conversation unless they sweep the rest of the games they have against the top of the conference. Amazingly, they don't have a single top 100 win.
I was not that impressed with VCU. Lack of bodies on our side scares me but I think we play a whole lot smarter than URI did. I think we give VCU a game even though it is on the road.
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VCU vs Rhody was street ball, just like Shaka likes it...and it appears that Hurley is in the process of adopting same philosophy. Full court, in your face, jack up the first shot that looks decent, and jailbreak to the rim. Makes it difficult to officiate and about 1/3 of the fouls that occur actually get called. Reminds me of UC days under Huggins. If you can dictate the pace of play you can expose either team. If not...try to get out of the game w/out a major injury!
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I watched some of the URI-VCU game and got excited when I saw Rhody was ahead. The late collapse was so disappointing. Also familiar, remembering the Flyers sometimes doing the same thing. Fortunately, that has not been the case this season. So Far.
I just take it one game at a time, which is what the players/coaches do. Just for today...
No worries about the future, although, looking forward to tonight's game, the butterflies in my stomach feel like eagles now, lol.
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I watched VCU for the third time. VCU plays so sloppy and takes so many bad shots, that they are beatable. We cannot turn the ball over, force them to take outside shots (they have zero patience) and be able to have some energy and legs left for the last ten minutes. The end of the game may be our downfall.
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Two interesting facts about the VCU line up-

1. No starters are over 6'6". Two subs played a combined total of 14 minutes, one is 6'7 and the other 6'8.

2. VCU went 11 deep, with 9 guys playing double digit minutes. Hoping we have the legs and energy to keep up with their depth.

Yes, they are very beatable by our Flyers! We match up well, at least for the first 30+ minutes of the game.
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The VCU full court press is tough...they get right up in your face...they constantly trap you all over the floor...they try to create as much chaos as possible to force you into making a bad pass, they try to draw a charge, get a 10 second half court violation, etc., they try to get you flustered so you lose your composure or panic.

Need a plan to deal with their pressure.
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Scoochie Smith. Rarely gets ratteled by pressure and few to's. expect he will be a calming influence.
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Wednesday, Jan 13:

BU (NL) @ Colgate (Adonal Foyle version, not the toothpaste)
Harvard (-3.5) @ BC
Notre Dame (-4) @ GTECH (can they finish the job they couldn't finish a week ago)
Davidson (PK) @ UMass
LSU (+6) @ Ole Miss
GMason (+4) @ Bonnies
Bowling Green (+1.5) @ Akron
Miami (+11) @ C Michigan
Detroit (-5.5) @ UIC
Duquesne (+3) @ SLU
Fordham (+10) @ Saint Joes
Eastern Michigan (+3.5) @ Kent St

Other games to pay attention to for seeding/bubble/top 25/ rpi movement, etc..

SMU (+2.5) @ Temple (both teams are bubbly)
#15 UNC (-3.5) @ NC State
Saint Johns (+2.5) @ Providence
#11 Iowa St (+2) @ #22 Baylor
Illinois (bubbly, -1.5) @ Northwestern
Xavier (+10.5) @ #5 Nova
Stanford (-2.5) @ Cal (Both bubbly)
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Two interesting facts about the VCU line up-

1. No starters are over 6'6". Two subs played a combined total of 14 minutes, one is 6'7 and the other 6'8.

2. VCU went 11 deep, with 9 guys playing double digit minutes. Hoping we have the legs and energy to keep up with their depth.

Yes, they are very beatable by our Flyers! We match up well, at least for the first 30+ minutes of the game.
Half the fans today have forgotten this, and the other half were not born. Chicago Loyola won the National Championship in 1963 with a roster dominated by 6'2" players. Their two tallest players were 6'7" & 6'6".
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The VCU full court press is tough...they get right up in your face...they constantly trap you all over the floor...they try to create as much chaos as possible to force you into making a bad pass, they try to draw a charge, get a 10 second half court violation, etc., they try to get you flustered so you lose your composure or panic.

Need a plan to deal with their pressure.
Not only that but they cause so many "near" TO's, as well, as teams barely get the ball across half-court so many times which leaves a half-court offensive set-up with only 20-25 seconds..
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SMU is toast. Their great player Martin turned pro.
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Half the fans today have forgotten this, and the other half were not born. Chicago Loyola won the National Championship in 1963 with a roster dominated by 6'2" players. Their two tallest players were 6'7" & 6'6".
Wooden won his first title in 1964. Tallest player was 6' 5". Of course, it helped he had Gail Goodrich too - and a wicked 2-2-1 full-court zone press. Getting a bit off topic.


Back on topic -

Watched a bit of the Arkansas/Tennessee and UConn/Tulsa games last night. Both Arkansas and UConn lost. Talk about doing less with more. They have athletes we just dream about. Yet, watching Arkansas and UConn on offense was like a trip to the dentist - painful and ugly to watch. Turnovers, bad shot decisions, poor block outs. We really are getting spoiled by how effective and efficient the Flyers look offensively. Basketball can be a beautiful game when played well.

Also watched Duke get destroyed by Miami at Cameron - ending Dukies 41 game home winning streak. Warmed my heart.
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Wooden won his first title in 1964. Tallest player was 6' 5". Of course, it helped he had Gail Goodrich too - and a wicked 2-2-1 full-court zone press. Getting a bit off topic.


Back on topic -

Watched a bit of the Arkansas/Tennessee and UConn/Tulsa games last night. Both Arkansas and UConn lost. Talk about doing less with more. They have athletes we just dream about. Yet, watching Arkansas and UConn on offense was like a trip to the dentist - painful and ugly to watch. Turnovers, bad shot decisions, poor block outs. We really are getting spoiled by how effective and efficient the Flyers look offensively. Basketball can be a beautiful game when played well.

Also watched Duke get destroyed by Miami at Cameron - ending Dukies 41 game home winning streak. Warmed my heart.
Nothing like wathching Dook and Coach K lose...especially when the suit coat comes off!
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Did you hear the announcer on the Duke game say, "They are down to only 9 scholarship players, and of course they are all McDonny AA's." Wow, I feel sorry for them. On the other hand, I have not seen a bunch of lazier guys on defense. You could tell Coach K was ****ed to the max. He has to be thinking retirement with this bunch.
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Wednesday, Jan 13:

BU (NL) @ Colgate (Adonal Foyle version, not the toothpaste)
Harvard (-3.5) @ BC
Notre Dame (-4) @ GTECH (can they finish the job they couldn't finish a week ago)
Davidson (PK) @ UMass
LSU (+6) @ Ole Miss
GMason (+4) @ Bonnies
Bowling Green (+1.5) @ Akron
Miami (+11) @ C Michigan
Detroit (-5.5) @ UIC
Duquesne (+3) @ SLU
Fordham (+10) @ Saint Joes
Eastern Michigan (+3.5) @ Kent St

Other games to pay attention to for seeding/bubble/top 25/ rpi movement, etc..

SMU (+2.5) @ Temple (both teams are bubbly)
#15 UNC (-3.5) @ NC State
Saint Johns (+2.5) @ Providence
#11 Iowa St (+2) @ #22 Baylor
Illinois (bubbly, -1.5) @ Northwestern
Xavier (+10.5) @ #5 Nova
Stanford (-2.5) @ Cal (Both bubbly)
San Diego St (+1.5) @ #25 Wyoming
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My pleasure, I've started these in the past, and Glen has helped fill in the gaps (amongst others, but I know he's been active in these type of threads the past few seasons) so I figured I could help along on his thread. I'm sure I'll miss a few that I should have mentioned, and lord knows I'm going to miss the Duke - Miami type upsets that few saw coming, so the more eyeballs and mentions, the more informed we all can be on the landscape. The nice thing, is that this is a fluid process for me. Should UD keep winning and appear to be solidly in the NCAA field, I'll focus more on other team games and their potential impact on UD's seed/ranking. Should UD drop a few, I worry less about them getting into the top 25 or a top 6 seed, and more about the back end of the bubble.
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SMU is toast. Their great player Martin turned pro.
They have landed some talent, but also took some risks. Emmanual Mudiay never made it to campus as a player. Needed the money to support family. #5 player in the nation.

Then their big power forward transfer from Philly, Markus Kennedy, was ineligible the first semester.

Now Justin Martin drops off the team, the heralded ex-X player. Why at this time of year would he turn pro? Because grades are coming out. Very pedestrian contributions to SMU when compared to the notoriety that went with his transfer. What pro team signs a marginal player off a college roster at mid-season? A desperate one. This is a move that could be addition by subtraction for SMU.

But with all that, they still have a ton of talent and are 12-4.
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What pro team signs a marginal player off a college roster at mid-season?
A European one since he has to go thru the next NBA Draft before they're allowed to sign him.
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I was joking about Justin Martin. The guy barely played, and not at all the last two games. He has zero NBA chance.
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IMO, pre-SMU, Martin's attitude and hustle were not the greatest at times. That may have played a role.
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Scoochie Smith. Rarely gets ratteled by pressure and few to's. expect he will be a calming influence.
Know what you mean but it takes more than one guy to get ball up court in full court pressure. Jordan and Kyle and Pierre will need to help and be at the key spots.

Other players will need step up to handle havoc
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Know what you mean but it takes more than one guy to get ball up court in full court pressure. Jordan and Kyle and Pierre will need to help and be at the key spots.

Other players will need step up to handle havoc
Agree....Archie will have them prepared and will turn the VCU press into advantage Flyers.
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Full slate tonight

1/14/15

A-10 scores:
La Salle 50 @ Dayton 61
Fordham 55 @ St Joe's 66
Davidson 71 @ UMass 63
George Mason 55 @ St Bonaventure 75
Duquesne 69 @ St Louis 78

OOC opponents (some near misses, some not-so-near misses)
#12 Notre Dame 62 @ Georgia Tech 59
Harvard 57 @ Boston College 64 (OT)
Detroit 69 @ U Illinois-Chicago 68
Miami (OH) 77 @ Central Michigan 105
Bowling Green 50 @ Akron 67
Eastern Michigan 59 @ Kent State 65 (EMU blows ten point halftime lead)
Boston U 53 @ Colgate 62
LSU 75 @ Ole Miss 71

Other results:
In a battle of two sleepers: Hofstra (13-5) 83 @ Northeastern (12-5) 91
Creighton remains winless in five tries in the Big East: Creighton 52 @ Marquette 53
More room at the inn: San Diego State 60 @ #25 Wyoming 52

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1/14/15

A-10 scores:
La Salle 50 @ Dayton 61
Fordham 55 @ St Joe's 66
Davidson 71 @ UMass 63
George Mason 55 @ St Bonaventure 75
Duquesne 69 @ St Louis 78

OOC opponents (some near misses, some not-so-near misses)
#12 Notre Dame 62 @ Georgia Tech 59
Harvard 57 @ Boston College 64 (OT)
Detroit 69 @ U Illinois-Chicago 68
Miami (OH) 77 @ Central Michigan 105
Bowling Green 50 @ Akron 67
Eastern Michigan 59 @ Kent State 65 (EMU blows ten point halftime lead)
Boston U 53 @ Colgate 62
LSU 75 @ Ole Miss 71

Other results:
In a battle of two sleepers: Hofstra (13-5) 83 @ Northeastern (12-5) 91
Creighton remains winless in five tries in the Big East: Creighton 52 @ Marquette 53
More room at the inn: San Diego State 60 @ #25 Wyoming 52

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UIC had the ball with 7 seconds left and a three point lead. Threw a bad pass and Detroit goes down for a dunk with 3.7 left to pull within 1. UIC then throws it long and is called for a foul going after the ball on the other end. Back comes the ball and Detroit wins it with 2 seconds left on a pair of freebies. When you are a bad team like UIC, you must first learn how not to lose before you can start winning.
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We beat Texas A&M, unless the NCAA has since ruled that the tip in at the buzzer was no good.
Yep. My bad. Shouldn't stay up past midnight 2 nights in a row.

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Top 25 Teams that lost tonight:

No. 18 Oklahoma
No. 19 Arkansas
No. 21 Seton Hall
N0. 24 Oklahoma State

There's room at the Inn!
So, #25 Wyoming also lost yesterday as Glen noted, more room at the inn indeed.


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Not only that but they cause so many "near" TO's, as well, as teams barely get the ball across half-court so many times which leaves a half-court offensive set-up with only 20-25 seconds..
Yeah, but 20-25 seconds is enough time to run your offense.

I think they may also sometimes continue trapping and pressing after you get the ball past half court.
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