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Old 09-07-2016, 02:39 PM
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Old 09-07-2016, 02:46 PM
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Old 09-07-2016, 02:48 PM
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Flyer News Sports ‏@FlyerNewsSports 11m minutes ago
BREAKING: UD Head Women's Basketball Coach Jim Jabir to step down. More details to come.

Flyer News Sports ‏@FlyerNewsSports 8m minutes ago
Jabir is stepping down for personal reasons. "I feel it’s now time to take care of my family and personal health," he said.

Flyer News Sports ‏@FlyerNewsSports 7m minutes ago
Mike Kelly, associate VP for athletics, will assume control of the team while the search process for a new head coach is conducted.

This is some of it. Other writers are tweeting about it as well.

ESPN Radio: Dayton ‏@ESPNDayton 12m minutes ago
Multiple sources have confirmed that head UD Women's basketball coach Jim Jabir is resigning due to health/personal reasons.

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Terrible... I hope he is o.k.
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Now?

...a month before practice begins?

Is there anyone on the staff that has the creds to take over?
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Old 09-07-2016, 03:11 PM
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http://daytonflyers.com/news/2016/9/...all-coach.aspx

Official release..
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Old 09-07-2016, 03:29 PM
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Jim Jabir told me he's worried about his heart health. Has a pacemaker. Said he almost died years ago. This has been building for a while.

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Old 09-07-2016, 03:34 PM
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Jim Jabir told me he's worried about his heart health. Has a pacemaker. Said he died years ago. This has been building for a while.
timing is not right unless something occurred. Right before the start of practice.
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timing is not right unless something occurred. Right before the start of practice.
I agree just wouldn't want to speculate. It's going to be really difficult to find any sort of quality replacement. Hopefully they hire someone on a one year deal and do a true coaching search next off-season.
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If health is involved do the smart thing. Very proud of Jim and what he meant to the UD family.
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I agree just wouldn't want to speculate. It's going to be really difficult to find any sort of quality replacement. Hopefully they hire someone on a one year deal and do a true coaching search next off-season.
My guess is they will have many good applicants for this enviable position at a great university.
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What the what?

The timing of this seems completely awful. How will this impact recruits?
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Old 09-07-2016, 04:14 PM
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I feel like my dog died. He was the architect of an amazing story. One that won't be forgotten. Everything this program accomplished and became was a result of JJ's fingerprints. The silver lining is when it comes time to perform a national search for a ull time replacement, we will be in a position to command only highly accomplished resumes'.

If the docs told him he's gotta shut it down, he's making the only choice he had. Nothing is more important than personal health.
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I feel like my dog died. He was the architect of an amazing story. One that won't be forgotten. Everything this program accomplished and became was a result of JJ's fingerprints. The silver lining is when it comes time to perform a national search for a ull time replacement, we will be in a position to command only highly accomplished resumes'.

If the docs told him he's gotta shut it down, he's making the only choice he had. Nothing is more important than personal health.
The question now is whether of not Neil has someone up his sleeve that he can pull away who is established. Do they give someone a one year deal as interim who is on the staff currently and wait the season out?
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The timing of this seems completely awful. How will this impact recruits?
that might be the only "benefit" of the timing. jenna, jayla, and jenna are as good a recruiting class as we've ever had. they are enrolled and bonding with their teammates. could have decommitted if announced in Spring, for instance.

nobody on the current staff is qualified, IMHO. need someone with D-I experience or a senior assistant, a la Archie. i'd say systemic fit with our current roster & culture just as important, with Jabir being a Westphal disciple, liking to run & gun

http://www.daytonflyers.com/roster.aspx?path=wbball

i begrudge coach jabir nothing -- wishing him much health and happiness.

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Wish Coach Jabir nothing but the best. I remember him sayng that he wasn't following doctor's orders following his previous heart attack. Not an easy thing to give up when you are as good at it as he is.
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Today is the day not to speculate on a successor but instead to first and foremost pray for good health for the coach. Also, we all owe him so much gratitude for all he has done building this program and bringing in not only excellent players but excellent students and people. The class manner of coach representing this university can not be understated. In eleven years I interviewed coach after many difficult losses and he never turned me down and always answered my questions. I will say I think last year took a tremendous toll on him, the narrow losses one after another with injury after injury. Again, we owe this man so much so let's wish him a long and healthy life and thank him for building a great program.
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Again, we owe this man so much so let's wish him a long and healthy life and thank him for building a great program.
So what game will be designated Jim Jabir Appreciation Day where we honor coach at halftime with a sell out crowd?
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Out of the blue

Shocked . . .
I had the good fortune to talk with Jim and Angie several times this summer - there was no hint that such a momentous change was on the horizon.
I wish them only the best, but this obviously presents a challenge to the program. Hopefully the women will be motivated to put into practice the work ethic he instilled in them.
Interesting times . . .

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wish him well and congratulate him for all he accomplished, most notably bringing our program to a national level. Hope he's not an Urban Meyer. Still, not surprised after the debacle of last year. He appeared to have little control of that team. Clearly the key injuries were crippling but the aftermath was uncontrolled and begged for a change. Given our resources we should have a great slate of candidates beating down our door.
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The timing is bad, but so what, it is his health. He did the right thing. Huge loss.
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The timing is bad, but so what, it is his health. He did the right thing. Huge loss.
It seems unlikely that his health deteriorated dramatically over the last month or two. Perhaps it did. But, had this decision been made in June, for example, or even July, the program would be in a much different situation than it is a month from the start of the season.

The timing is surprising. As Glen said. Shocked.
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Nobody took losses harder than Jim. Thats an understatement. I think he took them so hard because had he just coached better, they'd have won every game. So often he took the burden off his players for coming up short and redirected it to his shoulders. He always had their back and I believe thats why players loved playing for him.

My guess is the assistants will be interim coaches this year and then a national search will take place next April.

I will throw one name out there: Jim Foster at UT-Chattanooga. He's done pretty much everything but win a national title. And he wins everywhere, all the time.

Jim got his first head coaching job at SJU. So he knows the A10. Gaitley at Fordham used to be one of his assistants. So too Cindy Griffin at SJU. Since 1985, he's missed the NCAA Tourney 3 times across 4 programs.
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He said he would like to get back into coaching again so you never know what might happen. He might not be able to stand it and come back next year.

But, if he is that tired I wonder if he will ever return to coaching. I would have trouble cutting back on my effort when I knew what it took to be sucessful. But, Urban Meyer did it and he has been pretty sucessful lately
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JJ leaving - thoughts

Sad news to hear, but health and family come first.

He was well respected. Several years ago, Dayton played in a Las Vegas tournament. Attendance was very weak, so I got to talk to some players and the Gonzaga coach ( also Justine Ratterman and her family ). Coach Graves spoke well of JJ, saying that he was a fine coach and he liked him. This happened when I suggested that Dayton and Gonzaga should schedule each other. This later happened, with over 8,000 fans here in Spokane to see the game. Kelly Graves is now the Women's head coach at Oregon.

Another reason may be the mental stress on Coach Jabir from the injuries to Celeste, Amber and Madeline.

Hope the freshman class this year does him proud.
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Several years ago, Dayton played in a Las Vegas tournament. Attendance was very weak, so I got to talk to some players and the Gonzaga coach ( also Justine Ratterman and her family ).
Speaking of Raterman...she was named Director of Video Operations at Miami University WBB today.

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salute coach jabir, looking ahead ...

like bernie, i think we need to pause and recognize coach jabir -- the gravity of his decision, what this role meant to him, and the indelible mark he left on our program.

thinking way longer term -- let's say our assistants serve as an interim "committee" this season -- looking for an archie-like candidate for 2017-18 ...

how about dayton's own megan duffy? now an assistant at michigan, a 32-year old graduate of notre dame, with other coaching stops at st john's & george washington, multiple nike villa 7 summits for rising stars to meet athletic directors ...

any great hire is a further tribute to the trail blazed by jim jabir. he thoroughly deserves at least a standing ovation and game in his honor. how about naming the women's locker room or lounge after him?
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like bernie, i think we need to pause and recognize coach jabir -- the gravity of his decision, what this role meant to him, and the indelible mark he left on our program.

thinking way longer term -- let's say our assistants serve as an interim "committee" this season -- looking for an archie-like candidate for 2017-18 ...

how about dayton's own megan duffy? now an assistant at michigan, a 32-year old graduate of notre dame, with other coaching stops at st john's & george washington, multiple nike villa 7 summits for rising stars to meet athletic directors ...

any great hire is a further tribute to the trail blazed by jim jabir. he thoroughly deserves at least a standing ovation and game in his honor. how about naming the women's locker room or lounge after him?
I like the Megan Duffy choice. She was an icon in area basketball.
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For what he's done for this team and University, Jabir has earned my royal respect and every benefit of the doubt regarding speculation and timing of the announcement.

I hope Sullivan can find a spot within the Athletic Department for him when he's ready. Jair is an asset that UD can't lose.
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My guess is they will have many good applicants for this enviable position at a great university.
We would hope. This late and close to the start of the season, that might not be the case. Might need to hire from within to suffice short-term integrity of the role.
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There are several icons from the Dayton area including Williams who opted for UConn and went into the coaching field. Since Williams snubbed UD doubt she would be a consideration. Megan would be a great choice.

However something I never understood was why UD was not able to land one of those top recruits or any player from CJ. Only remember one player from CJ that really wanted to play for UD but JJ said her position was already filled so she ended up at Villanova.

CJ is no longer the power in womens bball but what a pipeline that could have and should have been.

As for coach Jabir, I can certainly relate to the tired fatigue feelings he is going through. If I didn't work for myself I would be out of work. I get to pick my jobs, pick my hours etc with lots of rest inbetween. Fortunately with the motorhome parked at job sites both my partner and I can take breaks when we like and work as long as we like. Unfortunately coach Jabir does not have that luxury and his job is much more demanding and stressful.

He made the right decision for himself and his family and has the program in an inenviable position for a top tier D1 coach. Not opposed for a top up and coming Archie type coach who wants to be here and not jump ship at the first opportunity.

Thanks again coach Jabir from the Flyer community, God Bless and good health.
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With guys like Jabir and Miller, you tell yourself it can't last for ever, just enjoy the ride. Then it happens and it still is a bummer. Such great coaches for us.
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He said he would like to get back into coaching again so you never know what might happen.
The way this is being handled seems odd to me. If he says he might coach again why not take a one year leave? The UC BB coach and others have done that. Appoint an interim coach with the understanding that if all works out well health wise the coach will return, If he doesn't, OK, but the door is open.

That would offer the hope of continuity. If he really said he may coach again....why rule Dayton out? This seems very odd and hasty to me. A year is a long time to think things over and get "well". If in a year JJ is coaching somewhere else that will be a shame .
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The next coach

Personally, I would love it if UD hired someone who will be around for another 13 or 14 years like JJ was.

While Jim Foster might bring us some short term success, will he still be coaching in 14 years at the age of 81?
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I am so sad. Coach Jabir expressed many times his desire to stay at Dayton until they threw him out. I am praying that he can regain his health and return to Dayton in some capacity. He has such a warm manner with everyone. I loved attending his chalk talks. He would answer any question candidly and often with his brand of humor.
He had a genuine appreciation of the fans. He said it was our program and he was just the caretaker. But, in reality it was HIS blood, sweat and tears, the program He built, and we got to enjoy the fruits of his labor.
I volunteered a little time each year to help with the School Days game. Each time I received a handwritten note in a hand addressed envelope from him. I have saved all of them.
Rollo is correct. Dayton can not afford to lose an asset like Jim Jabir.
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And to add to the most recent post, I've never seen a coach take the microphone after EVERY game win or lose and thank the fans for attending and promise improvement for the next game. Such a warm and caring individual which can not be understated. Whatever Coach will do next he will be successful but again for his health I applaud the decision. His quote in the DDN article today tells us a lot - his kids didn't like whom he had become. A similar circumstance at my alma matter, the University of Missouri, where longtime football coach Gary Pinkle resigned after last year.
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Kentucky Defections

Since Williams snubbed UD doubt she would be a consideration

In April at least 3 assistants resigned from Matt Mitchell's staff at kentucky:

- former assistant camryn Whitaker, since accepting head job at Northern kentucky
- adeniyi amadou, now asst at syracuse
- tamika williams-jeter (36), now asst at Penn state

Current UD asst Jeff house has the most experience, coming from Kentucky & wnba - just none at the helm.

Maybe the newly announced series with uconn will attract candidates. Love our fan base & facilities.

here's a couple ohio state assistants who've attended the Villa 7 Consortium ...
http://www.ohiostatebuckeyes.com/spo...051314aac.html

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I would have to think each of the assistants have been talked to or interviewed along with coach Jabir's input.

My take is that if UD hadn't become such a high level program, House or one of the assistants might have been given the nod. But right now UD should strike while the iron is hot and go big time.

Was wondering if any former successful top tier DI coaches who retired or stepped down would be willing to come in and take the helm for a year or so to keep it going forward.
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I don’t want to speak much publicly about it and compromise the integrity of the process, but we certainly will have a defined leader moving into the basketball season.” Sullivan

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We are at a place that we don't have to look at just assistants. We should be looking for coaches with a track record of success. This isn't like when we hired Archie. We are a top 25 team that had been to the tournament 6 straight years. We are not a fluke. Jim put us there. How many years until he can be added to the Hall of Fame?
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We are at a place that we don't have to look at just assistants. We should be looking for coaches with a track record of success. This isn't like when we hired Archie. We are a top 25 team that had been to the tournament 6 straight years. We are not a fluke. Jim put us there. How many years until he can be added to the Hall of Fame?
UD does not have to look at assistants. Nonetheless, some assistants have experience of a kind that most head coaches never had.

UConn, for example, has an assistant who was an All American while playing for UConn, played on a national championship team.....went to a Power 5 school as an asst for five years....then back to UConn where she has been an asst for eight years. That's 13 years as an asst...eight with UConn where she's experienced all there is to experience under, arguably, the most successful women's coach in history.

She could get a job anywhere...but earning close to $200K as an asst at UConn where she has everything, only the "right" opportunity would make any sense. UD is such an opportunity, in my opinion.
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I like the Megan Duffy choice. She was an icon in area basketball.
Ohio state champions at CJ. All Big East point guard. Minnesota Lynx. Well qualified --St Johns, George Washington, Michigan assistant head coach.

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I have no problems taking a top assistant, the last time we did that it worked out pretty good. I like both of the assistants mentioned.

The assistant from UConn would bring instant credibility with her and great attention to detail. If she has stayed in that role as assistant she wouldn't be leaving right away unless the UConn job opened up.

The choice of Duffy also sounds like a good one

It seems very strange talking about hiring a new women's bball coach just as it will hiring a replacement for coach tucker, although I am so ignorant about soccer I will only be a bystander in that discussion
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UD does not have to look at assistants. Nonetheless, some assistants have experience of a kind that most head coaches never had.

UConn, for example, has an assistant who was an All American while playing for UConn, played on a national championship team.....went to a Power 5 school as an asst for five years....then back to UConn where she has been an asst for eight years. That's 13 years as an asst...eight with UConn where she's experienced all there is to experience under, arguably, the most successful women's coach in history.

She could get a job anywhere...but earning close to $200K as an asst at UConn where she has everything, only the "right" opportunity would make any sense. UD is such an opportunity, in my opinion.
Shea Ralph would certainly be in a position to get the flyers ready for a game in Storrs this November. She did coach at Pitt for a few years so she may be open to make a move for a HC position. Personally I'd like to see someone who would stay the course like Jabir has and not use Dayton as a springboard to a top job. That is not in reference to Ralph only but any and all candidates that would take the job.

Any of the two previously mentioned or Shea Ralph of UConn would be great gets for the program, assuming we can't get a top tier D1 coach this late in the season. Could be one lurking out there that is not presently a HC like possibly a media person who might be itching to get back into coaching.
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Shea Ralph would certainly be in a position to get the flyers ready for a game in Storrs this November. She did coach at Pitt for a few years so she may be open to make a move for a HC position. Personally I'd like to see someone who would stay the course like Jabir has and not use Dayton as a springboard to a top job. That is not in reference to Ralph only but any and all candidates that would take the job.

Any of the two previously mentioned or Shea Ralph of UConn would be great gets for the program, assuming we can't get a top tier D1 coach this late in the season. Could be one lurking out there that is not presently a HC like possibly a media person who might be itching to get back into coaching.
Avid raises a good point. Neil said, as I recall, that a new HC will be in place before the start of the season. It would be tough for a current HC to bail on his program a few weeks before practice starts.

But, it would be much easier for a top assistant to jump in order to take a step up. The life of an assistant at UConn is far better than most head coaching jobs. Ralph has all the creds and would get a great recommendation from Auriemma. The issue, it seems to me, is whether or not she has the "bug". Ralph is single and earns $175K. If she has the ambition Dayton is a great job. Previously Auriemma has sent assistants to head jobs at Temple and UC....neither job is as good as Dayton's....not even close. Ralph is a dynamo.
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Some mentioned Jeff House. Is there a chance that he would be given the job? I would think that jabir and others know him well enough to determine if he MIGHT be ready
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Although it's been only a few days....a few Priders are "connected" at UD. Is there any early indication re UD's thinking or strategy for getting a new HC in place within a few weeks?

An AD's job is to be reasonably well prepared in case he loses a key coach unexpectedly. While JJ's sudden exit is a shock to all of us, I doubt if Neil is as surprised as we were. I'm wondering what direction he's heading in.....and, I presume with some assistance from Coach Jabir. No one wants to see continuity and ongoing success more than JJ.
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I am not an insider, but from reading the article I posted above, my thought is that unless Neil gets one of his top 2 desired candidates, he will appoint an interim. Neil used the term "defined leader" not head coach when he spoke of having someone in place by the start of the season.

IMO Jeff House would be that guy if the interim came from the assistants. He is just a few years younger than Jabir and has a wealth of experience in WBB. He has been an assistant his entire career and may not want a head job. (I am sure he could have gotten one somewhere along the way if he wanted.)

Again, IMO, the reason Jabir didn't ask for (or accept) a leave of absence, is because he didn't think it would be fair to the university/program to ask them to wait for him when he wasn't certain when or if he would return to coaching.
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Re an experienced assistant like UConn's Shea Ralph:

There are things we don't know that Auriemma knows.

1 He knows if his asst has an interest in becoming a HC...she may not. Not everyone has that objective. For sure she's had offers.

2. If she does have an interest, he has always been proactive in advising them re the "right" opportunity. One piece of advice" Don't just take a job because its available". Wait for a good opportunity where you can win and have the support of the school. That has Dayton written all over it.

If the answer to 1. is "yes"....all Auriemma has to do is pick up the phone. He knows Neil and he knows JJ very well. Given their relationship, and given Auriemma stature, I've got to believe that if Geno were to tell Neil that Shea is your "man"....she's got the job.

Being an assistant at UConn is not just "being an assistant". But, support of the school and community matters enormously. UConn assistants are head coaches at Temple and UC....with limited success. At UD women's BB has unique potential. Just opinion.
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Don't lose sight of the fact that JJ was down and out at Providence before his UD tenure. Our AD saw something--- like dedication, leadership, and a relentless will to win. Our next coach isn't necessarily a name coach from a currently successful program. Certain qualities will distinguish him or her. Not just their previous W/L record.

Salary will be a consideration. We know that there is only one sport bringing in the bread. The others are on a tight budget. An assistant from somewhere might check all the blocks. Or possibly a prior successful head coach who has stepped away for a year or two to regroup mentally and physically--like Jabir is doing, like Urban Meyer did, like Steve Fisher did.
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Don't lose sight of the fact that JJ was down and out at Providence before his UD tenure.......
JJ went to Providence thinking of the Big East as a step up. Providence men's BB was big time then and still is. But, what he missed or was misled about is that PC does not support women's athletics.

Dayton is an entirely different story. Applicants seeing our facilities, knowing about our attendance and NCAA record will be dazzled. The UD women's job is a plumb.
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When UD commenced its search for a new president, I believe that the no. 1-2 qualification was that he be a practicing Catholic, from there, the rest was based on his "resume." When it comes to replacing coaches, I assume that being Catholic is not a requirement, but I wonder if they must not openly practice or adhere to a lifestyle that is inconsistent with the teachings of the Catholic Church. I'm trying to be as PC as I can here, but to be specific, would being openly gay disqualify someone from be hired to replace JJ? Given the world we live in today, I was just curious?
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Didn't the Pope address the gay issue recently, don't recall the outcome.

My assumption would be that a coaches private life is his/her business so long as it does not interfere with their position.

Not sure of the marital status or orientation of the three candidates mentioned in this thread, nor so I need to know if its not a criteria.
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Every job posting on the UD website has this:

Preferred Multicultural Experience: Demonstrated and successful experience working with people from diverse backgrounds. Knowledge of and sensitivity to a Catholic Marianist work environment.
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we need a coach, a great coach and now! Last year was a total loss, This year?? But the future of recruiting is critical, else we lose much of the momentum JJ built. Several down years would reduce us significantly.

Ud should be able to attract a coach with high potential, right now from one of hundreds of schools without the resources and track record we offer. This is an acid test for our new AD. Let's see what he's got.
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we need a coach, a great coach and now! Last year was a total loss, This year?? But the future of recruiting is critical, else we lose much of the momentum JJ built. Several down years would reduce us significantly.

Ud should be able to attract a coach with high potential, right now from one of hundreds of schools without the resources and track record we offer. This is an acid test for our new AD. Let's see what he's got.
Get real man. No DI coach worthy of his/her salt will walk away from his/her team just weeks before the season begins, and I don't think I would want him/her if he/she was that kind of person.

Our best option is a former D1 coach that stepped aside from coaching and is itching to get back in. Or a top tier assistant head coach or one of Geno's assistants.

I would bet Neil knows who he wants to get and if he can't get that person they will go with plan "B" making House the interim coach while they conduct the nationwide search.

Could be their #1 choice says yes but not till the end of this season.

I have confidence in Neil to get the right person and if we have to wait till the end of the season for that person so be it. Better that than take a lesser candidate just because someone feels we need one now.

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Has everyone looked at House's resume, pretty impressive, particularly on the recruiting front. I do wonder why he has moved around so much and not been a head coach but with a wife coaching it might have been necessary


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Most recently, House was an assistant coach under Matthew Mitchell at Kentucky. He spent the 2013-14 season with the Wildcats, leading UK to a 26-9 overall mark and a 10-6 record in Southeastern Conference action. Kentucky then hosted NCAA First and Second Round games, advancing to the Notre Dame Regional, the program's fifth-consecutive Sweet 16® appearance.


Being handed the reigns of directing the Kentucky individual improvement and offensive systems UK enjoyed the best offensive season in program history establishing over 20 firsts or records at Kentucky, within the SEC or nationally.


Prior to his year at Kentucky, House spent 10 years in the professional ranks, including his last two seasons with the WNBA's Chicago Sky. During his 27-year career path, he has coached 19 WNBA All-Stars and major award winners along with four Olympians.


After seven seasons with the New York Liberty and one year as the top assistant coach with the Washington Mystics, House joined the college ranks serving as the recruiting coordinator and assistant coach at Virginia under Debbie Ryan from 2005-09. As the program's recruiting coordinator his recruiting classes were No. 10 (2008), No. 3 (2009) and No. 14 (2010) nationally by multiple national services, including Blue Star Report, All-Star Girl's Report and Collegiate Girl's Basketball Report. House recruited and helped develop Monica Wright, who was chosen by the Minnesota Lynx as the second overall pick in the 2010 WNBA Draft. He also played a role in recruiting 2009 WNBA draft picks Aisha Mohammed (Minnesota) and Lyndra Littles (Connecticut) and 2008 draft pick Sharnee Zoll (Los Angeles Sparks).


House played basketball at Nazareth College in Rochester, N.Y., before suffering a career-ending injury. He immediately jumped into the coaching realm, beginning his coaching career at McQuaid Jesuit High School also in Rochester while he was an undergraduate. At McQuaid, he served as an assistant to former Knicks and Houston Rockets head coach Jeff Van Gundy in 1985. In 1986, House was a key component to McQuaid's run to the Class B, Section 5 New York State Championship.


A 1987 graduate of Nazareth College, House earned a bachelor's degree in art education. He also received a master's degree in teaching, guidance and counseling from Jacksonville University in 1991.


After graduation, House spent the next decade honing his skills as an assistant men's coach, including four seasons (1988-91) at the University of Lowell as an assistant to former ESPN analyst and current Detroit Pistons head coach Stan Van Gundy. He also spent two seasons at Jacksonville University as an assistant coach with Matt Kilcullen and following the receipt of his master's degree, four seasons (1992-96) as an assistant coach at Rutgers University during its transition into the Big East Conference with Bob Wenzel. While at Rutgers, House served as head coach for the 1995 People-to-People Sports Holland All-Star Tour. He directed a combination of Big East, Atlantic 10 and Big Ten All-Stars to a 6-1 record, losing only to Holland's national champions.


House and his wife Ann Leonard-House, the former head women's volleyball coach at UMass-Lowell and Rutgers, have two children - daughter Elizabeth and son Thomas.
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Yes I've read his resume and wondered why he wasn't named the interim coach at least during this period. But their must be reasons. Could be that he had not been interviewed yet that close after the announcement and is still a leading candidate while the search goes on for a new Head Coach.

Definitely has the experience but may not want that responsibility as HC job can be very stressful. His wife was a head volleyball coach at Rutgers.

Continuity of the program and a coach who aspires to lead a team deep in the NCAA employing the same or similar offense and defensive strategies as it would be too late to change what they have practiced up to now. Its a tall order to find someone outside the program to meet all the criteria in such a short time. House may well be the top candidate but why not put out feelers for what interest there is now short term and long term.

It almost seems that its Houses' if he wants it.....but then he may feel need for some freedom of movement taking care of his wife and family.

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House has been out of recruiting most of the last 20 years. Thats what scares me. Coaching in the WNBA and coaching in college and recruiting 12 months a season is a different animal.
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House has been out of recruiting most of the last 20 years. Thats what scares me. Coaching in the WNBA and coaching in college and recruiting 12 months a season is a different animal.
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A couple people wondered if a coach at UD could be LGBT. The answer, is yes - just as there are out LGBT faculty and staff.

I know UD has had at least two out gay male coaches in the past 15 years. One was pretty open about everything (he was single and dating) and the other is a little more reserved - totally out in personal life, but a little more guarded when it comes to work and coaching.

I know it might shock some, but UD is pretty supportive to LGBT people.
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Looks like Jabir has a new coaching gig...in Denmark!

http://www.fullcourt.dk/basketligaen...sk-basketball/
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Makes no sense
to me. Health problems?
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Looks like Jabir has a new coaching gig...in Denmark!

http://www.fullcourt.dk/basketligaen...sk-basketball/
I agree it does not make senses unless there were other problems non health related. He certainly did leave the program in a predicament if it was totally his decision. I am obviously speaking with no inside knowledge. Or Outside knowledge for that matter
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Read Jabir's answer to "Since stepping away from Dayton two months ago, what have you been up to?"

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Sounds like he knows he hit a coaching ceiling, and more importantly a psychological ceiling. Doubt it has much to do with his heart and everything to do with his head. He will pop up somewhere.
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I can't translate the article. What are the whom he's coaching and when?
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Jim Jabir is the new man on the sidelines at SISU But – at least when he gets permission to do so. Jabir is an experienced trainer, who has spent many at major universities in the United States as Marquette, Providence and most recently the Dayton (not Marquette, as is said in the interview), where he has coached women's teams.

Now he must work out a men's team for the first time, where he will try to get the best out of SISU crew for the rest of the season.
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From looking at Eurobasket SISU plays in the top division in Denmark and is located near Copenhagen. They are currently 6-12 and in 7th place in an 8 team league. They have 10 games left on the season which ends March 16th. Americans on the roster include Kyle Dranginis(Gonzaga 16), Tanner McGrew(D2 WV Wesleyan 16), and Derrick Wilson(Marquette 15). Dranginis is the only one I've ever heard of.

http://basketball.eurobasket.com/tea...en/1158?Page=0

To me the whole situation seems strange. I can completely understand him resigning for health/family reasons, and from the one article it seems like he was putting a large amount of pressure on himself. What I can't understand is taking a job in Denmark just 3 months after resigning. He leaves his wife of less than a year and a half back in Dayton which certainly seems odd. If I were the players or Neil Sullivan I would certainly be angry because in a way it seems like he bailed on them when he didn't think they would be a great team.
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From looking at Eurobasket SISU plays in the top division in Denmark and is located near Copenhagen. They are currently 6-12 and in 7th place in an 8 team league. They have 10 games left on the season which ends March 16th. Americans on the roster include Kyle Dranginis(Gonzaga 16), Tanner McGrew(D2 WV Wesleyan 16), and Derrick Wilson(Marquette 15). Dranginis is the only one I've ever heard of.

http://basketball.eurobasket.com/tea...en/1158?Page=0

To me the whole situation seems strange. I can completely understand him resigning for health/family reasons, and from the one article it seems like he was putting a large amount of pressure on himself. What I can't understand is taking a job in Denmark just 3 months after resigning. He leaves his wife of less than a year and a half back in Dayton which certainly seems odd. If I were the players or Neil Sullivan I would certainly be angry because in a way it seems like he bailed on them when he didn't think they would be a great team.
Unfortunately it looks like he foresaw that this was going to be another year like last year. Losing Blais might have been the icing on the cake. Too many injuries two years in a row.

Fortunately Shauna knew the team and most of the players and has the youth to build upon the program which Jabir established. Still it is a very strange and odd situation.

Health and wanted to spend more time with the family.....then bails out to Denmark. So much for quality time with the family.
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I take it as a sign he's feeling better and this is as a non pressure situation to see if he'll get back in coaching full time.
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I take it as a sign he's feeling better and this is as a non pressure situation to see if he'll get back in coaching full time.
I'm sorry but the optics of going to Denmark this soon are just bad. He leaves his doctors and family completely behind if health/family were his reasons for leaving. If he was feeling better and offered to volunteer at a local small college or high school that would seem much more reasonable to me.

If I were a player I would have understood his reasons for resigning at the time, but the minute I found out that he's gone to Denmark to coach I would be angry and feel like he quit on his team. Also if I'm an AD at a college I would have serious reservations about hiring him as a head coach.
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how about dayton's own megan duffy? now an assistant at michigan, a 32-year old graduate of notre dame, with other coaching stops at st john's & george washington, multiple nike villa 7 summits for rising stars to meet athletic directors ...
Hearing Duffy may be headed to Miami (OH).
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Hearing Duffy may be headed to Miami (OH).
Outstanding pick for her and them.

Fresh off Michigan's triple overtime WNIT win.

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Read a couple Twitter reports of Jabir and Florida Atlantic University....

Around the 14:00 mark is when they discuss Jabir -- also mentioned he may have been pretty close to going to Davidson...that would have been interesting!!!

https://twitter.com/KennyKallina/sta...41904303493120


https://twitter.com/LAWomensHoops/st...86644935888896
https://twitter.com/wbballhoopscoop/...54578853801984

The Denmark SISU Basketball Facebook page doesn't mention FAU but does say he took a job in the US and had to leave Denmark immediately.

https://www.facebook.com/merebuepaa/...72351146163462

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One thing is for sure -- no pressure to perform as the only place FAU can go is up -- not unlike when he took over at Dayton.

If true, Jabir will coach against his one-time Dayton recruit Victoria Oglesby at Old Dominion.

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FAU press conference scheduled for Thursday.

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so clearly something else was going on as to why he left UD. whats the deal? we're what not even a year out?
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I think he was pretty up-front with what his reason was here:

http://collegeinsider.com/brian-stan...0/hes-a-legend

Since leaving the best job I ever had, I have been resting, reading, traveling, and talking to a lot of college and professional coaches. I needed to reassess the pressure I was putting on myself and why I was coaching. The concept of being "process driven" has become central to me. Reading about people like Brad Stevens has been good for me. I was emotionally exhausted and I'm finding that putting all that pressure on myself to better “your Elite Eight run” isn't the way to get to the Final Four. What I'm learning is that if I just concentrate on today and that “one play in front of me”, I will have a better chance of getting where I want to be as opposed to worrying so much about how that one play in front of me may shape my entire future. I put so much pressure on myself and I'm now taking time to re-evaluate my philosophies and it's been very healthy and productive.
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I can understand his feeling the need to step aside citing heath etc. So why not take a leave of absence reevaluate himself etc an step back into lead role rested and ready to go. Just don't pass eye or smell test. He did not have to leave the program to do this. Heck even coach K took a year off but stayed with the program.

Good luck but really Jabir not the way to do it. Suddenly showing up in Denmark discounts the need to be with family. Sorry not buying it.
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Maybe Ray Harper can host "Dateline:The Women's College Basketball Edition" so the real story can become public.

I also wonder if his wife of a year or two who is currently an associate athletic director at UD will be moving to Florida with him?
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Bizarre

Everything about this from the time JJ resigned...to the FSU job....and everything in between.... is bizarre. So strange, in fact, that I'll bet the FSU athletic administration has its fingers crossed. JJ has the creds but this behavior has the signs of a head case written all over it.

Given his success at UD and the type of institution UD is, JJ had far less pressure on him than most Div 1 coaches...and his wife is still there. This is one weird story. Let's hope all turns out well.

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How is the marriage?
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I said it previously, sounds like a marriage problem. I am sure he and his wife want to keep it private. We need to move on. We have what appears to be a very good young coach on which to now build an even better program.
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