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AG ? Why do u people continue to just give him a free pass....

He has proven once again that he is the KING of laying the golden egg, every single time in two years here plus his previous stops when the pressure is on he totally just takes a big ol pile of 💩, facts donít lie, but u will have every excuse in the book on why itís not his fault
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He had a very bad game, true enough. But then you agree he also had 21 great games this year? Right? You agree Right? Or is it your bull shttty double standard?? Is that more like it??
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He has proven once again that he is the KING of laying the golden egg, every single time in two years here plus his previous stops when the pressure is on he totally just takes a big ol pile of 💩, facts donít lie, but u will have every excuse in the book on why itís not his fault
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[QUOTE=Beatty Town Coach;580575]He had a very bad game, true enough. But then you agree he also had 21 great games this year? Right? You agree Right? Or is it your bull shttty double standard??

Can we be honest ? He has one quality win at best Davidson, other than that he beat 20 sub par teams
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He had a very bad game, true enough. But then you agree he also had 21 great games this year? Right? You agree Right? Or is it your bull shttty double standard??

Can we be honest ? He has one quality win at best Davidson, other than that he beat 20 sub par teams
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Youíre not even a very good troll. He had basically 7 players the majority of the year. Likely next year weíre at 11-12 strong - see your sorry a$$ then.
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He had a very bad game, true enough. But then you agree he also had 21 great games this year? Right? You agree Right? Or is it your bull shttty double standard??

Can we be honest ? He has one quality win at best Davidson, other than that he beat 20 sub par teams
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Like udscott or not, this is very true. We beat 0 tournament teams.
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Scott highjacked my quote and post. He has merged my quote and his post into a post.
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Like udscott or not, this is very true. We beat 0 tournament teams.
Dayton beat Rhody, Bonnies, Davidson, and SLU, and one of them is dancing.
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Here is one example of how Anthony has his hands tied. As mentioned in another post, early in the game and Flyers up like 7-3. They had a 3 on 2 fast break and Crutcher hot-dogged it with an attempted behind-the-back pass. He ended up throwing the ball away and STL came back down court and I believe they hit a three. If Anthony had another point guard, he could have yanked Crutcher's butt out of the game and sat him down the rest of the half. But he has no option. Davis and Cohill cannot run the point.
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Old 03-16-2019, 01:28 AM
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Remember when Archie took a #1 seed into the A10 tournament, completely puked the first game to #9 Davidson, then took a #7 seed into the NCAA tournament for the second straight year in a row and looked completely overmatched and overcoached against a lower seed for the second year in a row with four senior starters?

I do. Tonight was light years from those postseason debacles.
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This ⬆️. TommyGolaís post.

When you have a full roster, you have the option to sit guys when theyíre having a bad game. When you only have 8 scholarship players eligible (and only 7 with any proven D-I skills), your options are sorely limited. So, if Crutcher is having an off night (as he was tonight), your options are (a) put in Cohill (whoís not a true PG) and hope he can handle SLUís pressure, or (b) leave Crutcher in and hope he can get his feces aggregated. Grant chose Plan B, and it didnít work. In his shoes, Iíd have probably done the same.

Next year, heíll have options. This year? Not so much.
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Remember when Archie took a #1 seed into the A10 tournament, completely puked the first game to #9 Davidson, then took a #7 seed into the NCAA tournament for the second straight year in a row and looked completely overmatched and overcoached against a lower seed for the second year in a row with four senior starters?

I do. Tonight was light years from those postseason debacles.
Archie lost to #85 Davidson (by 6 points) and #8 Wichita St. (by 6 points). Anthony just lost to #123 Saint Louis (by 9 points).. Wichita St was completely misseeded so while stating losing to a lower seed is factually correct, it is misleading. Dayton had a 19% chance to win versus Wichita State. Dayton has never ever beaten a top 15 kenpom team in the NCAA Tourney, Wichita St was # 8. Since 2002 (first year of kenpom), Dayton has only once beat a top 10 kenpom team, #8 Louisville in 2008.

This loss tonight was NOT light years better than those 2 losses, it was a worse loss on any objective criteria; win probability, rating of opponent, etc.
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Just because Ken Pomeroy says its true, doesnt make it true. When you are a #1 seed in the A10 tournament and puke off your first round game to the #9 seed, its a train wreck. Following it up again a week later with another derailment in the NCAAs where you're again outwhipped and outcoached was equally tantalizing for a team with senior-laden Sweet-16 talent. This year's UD team isnt in the same league as that one. Neither are expectations.

That Davidson team that whipped us as a #9 seed? They got destroyed the next night.
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Just because Ken Pomeroy says its true, doesnt make it true. When you are a #1 seed in the A10 tournament and puke off your first round game to the #9 seed, its a train wreck. Following it up again a week later with another derailment in the NCAAs where you're again outwhipped and outcoached was equally tantalizing for a team with senior-laden Sweet-16 talent. This year's UD team isnt in the same league as that one. Neither are expectations.

That Davidson team that whipped us as a #9 seed? They got destroyed the next night.
Archie didn't do well in the A10 tournament so it's unreasonable to expect AG to ever do well? Got it, I feel better now.
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Archie lost to #85 Davidson (by 6 points) and #8 Wichita St. (by 6 points). Anthony just lost to #123 Saint Louis (by 9 points).. Wichita St was completely misseeded so while stating losing to a lower seed is factually correct, it is misleading. Dayton had a 19% chance to win versus Wichita State. Dayton has never ever beaten a top 15 kenpom team in the NCAA Tourney, Wichita St was # 8. Since 2002 (first year of kenpom), Dayton has only once beat a top 10 kenpom team, #8 Louisville in 2008.

This loss tonight was NOT light years better than those 2 losses, it was a worse loss on any objective criteria; win probability, rating of opponent, etc.
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Flyers don't have a true and consistent PG. IDC about the scoring. I care about the assist to TO ratio, much smarter decisions, the ability to get this team into and out half court sets and the ability to get the ball into the bigs...

While Crutcher is a nice player he's got a long way to be a good PG. Add in a very short and inexperienced bench and they are forced to play him and even others that are struggling far more mpg than might be needed. The bad games by players get magnified in this type of role.

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Remember when Archie took a #1 seed into the A10 tournament, completely puked the first game to #9 Davidson, then took a #7 seed into the NCAA tournament for the second straight year in a row and looked completely overmatched and overcoached against a lower seed for the second year in a row with four senior starters?

I do. Tonight was light years from those postseason debacles.
Don't understand this board's need to constantly throw Archie under the bus to make AG look better. He took us to an elite 8, he has the benefit of the doubt
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Getting 21 wins with a pretty much non existent bench in your second year is a huge accomplishment. How short our memories are. In Archie’s second season we actually needed a win by Fordham to just make the A10 tourney. When we have real backups next year we’ll be able to really gauge where we are.
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Don't understand this board's need to constantly throw Archie under the bus to make AG look better. He took us to an elite 8, he has the benefit of the doubt
Yes, in his THIRD season. We were horrible in his second season. Letís compare apples to apples please.
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Cause they will defend AG no matter what, just like my post AG has always been an average coach, he canít win the big game, and all they wanna do is defend him with every excuse, we only got 7 players they say all the time, well AM took 7 players to the elite 8
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This ⬆️. TommyGolaís post.

When you have a full roster, you have the option to sit guys when theyíre having a bad game. When you only have 8 scholarship players eligible (and only 7 with any proven D-I skills), your options are sorely limited. So, if Crutcher is having an off night (as he was tonight), your options are (a) put in Cohill (whoís not a true PG) and hope he can handle SLUís pressure, or (b) leave Crutcher in and hope he can get his feces aggregated. Grant chose Plan B, and it didnít work. In his shoes, Iíd have probably done the same.

Next year, heíll have options. This year? Not so much.
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For the life of me, I donít understand why some posters donít understand this basic concept. When you have almost no bench you are stuck with whatís on the floor. Frankly, Iím surprised we did as well as we did this season. Even our resident fool, UDSCOTT didnít think weíd win more than 18 games with this group.
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The short bench is an excuse.

This team has been inconsistent all year. Don’t expect that more players will mean more wins. Coaches love “their” guys. There’s nothing AG has said that would indicate he’s unhappy with Crutch. Warts and all, he’s the point.
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Cause they will defend AG no matter what, just like my post AG has always been an average coach, he canít win the big game, and all they wanna do is defend him with every excuse, we only got 7 players they say all the time, well AM took 7 players to the elite 8
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The elite 8 team in Archieís third year had 12 solid players who contributed heavily. Please get your facts straight. In his fourth year he had 7 players who frankly, were more talented as a group than the team we currently have. Letís see what we have in Anthonyís third and fourth years.
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Originally Posted by TommyGola View Post
Here is one example of how Anthony has his hands tied. As mentioned in another post, early in the game and Flyers up like 7-3. They had a 3 on 2 fast break and Crutcher hot-dogged it with an attempted behind-the-back pass. He ended up throwing the ball away and STL came back down court and I believe they hit a three. If Anthony had another point guard, he could have yanked Crutcher's butt out of the game and sat him down the rest of the half. But he has no option. Davis and Cohill cannot run the point.
Great point. I wondered "WTF?" when that happened. Can't recall ever seeing that this year. Playing in NYC go to his head? Anyway, I think you're right - deeper bench and he gets yanked (at least for a few minutes). At least I hope AG yanks players if they pull that next year.
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Great point. I wondered "WTF?" when that happened. Can't recall ever seeing that this year. Playing in NYC go to his head? Anyway, I think you're right - deeper bench and he gets yanked (at least for a few minutes). At least I hope AG yanks players if they pull that next year.
Itís more than just ďyankingĒ players. Itís having players fresh who can then play harder (and hopefully smarter). I expect several players who got big minutes this year to play a much reduced role next year.
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Itís more than just ďyankingĒ players. Itís having players fresh who can then play harder (and hopefully smarter). I expect several players who got big minutes this year to play a much reduced role next year.
SLU basically played 6 players 24 hours after playing another game. We had 16 turnovers after six days off.
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It was a bad matchup for us. Simple as that. This years team is a bad matchup against any big physical team. For whatever reason they get intimidated and out of sort. Anyone who wanted to play SLU vs Richmond, especially the way SLU has been playing lately, is nuts. What happened last night is what I feared would happen but what I hoped wouldn't. Bad matchup for us due to limited roster and our players and teams strengths. Next year, not so much. Disappointed but not surprised. Very little to do with AG and very much to do with our roster.
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The short bench is an excuse.

This team has been inconsistent all year. Donít expect that more players will mean more wins. Coaches love ďtheirĒ guys. Thereís nothing AG has said that would indicate heís unhappy with Crutch. Warts and all, heís the point.
I guarantee that Crutcher will not average anything near 37 minutes per game next year. If he gets 28 per game heís lucky. With Chatman, Matos and Watson in the fold there will be a lot fewer minutes to go to this yearís players.
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Shaking my head at the thought that Crutcher is who held this team back.

Prediction: Even when UD is rolling under AG next year and beyond, there will always be some (I can think of a couple in particular) who will nit-pick every alleged flaw in the team and blame it on AG.

We could get to the Final Four and be told that AG is the reason we didn't cut down the nets and win it all.

There's a certain segment of fans with every team that likes to think they should be GM or AD. And if they don't approve of the coach that's hired, they will NEVER approve of him unless there are Belichick or Saban like results.

These fans see confirmation bias wherever they look. There is no reasoning or rationale that will change the minds of these fans. Ever.
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Cause they will defend AG no matter what, just like my post AG has always been an average coach, he canít win the big game, and all they wanna do is defend him with every excuse, we only got 7 players they say all the time, well AM took 7 players to the elite 8
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Please all knowing critic, take Neil's job, fire Anthony and start you own coaching staff. You are so much smarter than everyone else, because you can criticize, criticize, criticize, criticize but offer no solutions. Anyone can criticize. Easiest thing in the world to do, because you don't have to take ownership of anything.

So start with YOUR Solutions. Name you coach.
Let's get a list of candidates:
1. Rick Pitino
2. Will Wade
3. Shaka Smart
4. Steve Alford. ( Bring some Ball kids with him)
5. Billy Kennedy
6. Bruce Pearl
7. Ben Howland
8. Bring back Archie. ( Should be real easy for you to do)
9. BG might be willing to come back
10. Purnell is retired
11. Bob Huggins
12. Any of Sean Miller's assistants. (They can coach better than Anthony from jail)
13. Basketball coach at Moeller (They are undefeated this year. See Gerry Faust.)
14. Rocky from Trotwood. He is passionate and given a technical every game.
15. Girls basketball coach from Carroll


That is a great list. Anyone one of them would get UD to the Final Four next year. All of them are so so so so much better than Grant.



Next, what would you have done differently last night to win the game coach?
1. Start Frankie instead of Jalen. Jalen had a bad game
2. Start Ibi Watson instead of Ryan. Ryan had a bad game
3. Used Mr. Miyagi to cure Obi at halftime. I heard that hand thing really works.
4. Used all of your 7 timeouts to settle the team down
5. Played a cover 2 defense. Hey it slowed down the La Rams. Worked for Belichick.
6. Told Josh to shoot a lot more 3s.
7. Run the picket fence at them
8. Have Ricardo Greer set better picks for Jalen

What's the plan coach? Make a bet and buy pizza when you lose?

If you want to bash Anthony every time the team falls short, then apply the same standard to every coach. Most coaches are only as good as the talent on the floor. Anthony does some things I like and some things I don't, but he is not going to dominate the A10 with middle of the pack talent.

Anthony got more out of this team this year than I expected. He can get better, but his team and talent need to get better if UD expects to win the A10 and go to the NCAA every year. Bottom line.

So, I am not going to bash Anthony after every loss. I also am not going to praise him for every win. Josh Cunningham made the winning free throw at Davidson, not Anthony.

If the new England Patriots trade Tom Brady for Andy Dalton, their Super Bowl run would end. Belichick would become another average coach like he was in Cleveland and Baltimore.
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Great point. I wondered "WTF?" when that happened. Can't recall ever seeing that this year. Playing in NYC go to his head? Anyway, I think you're right - deeper bench and he gets yanked (at least for a few minutes). At least I hope AG yanks players if they pull that next year.
You and I had the same reaction to that travesty of a pass attempt. When it happened, I yelled at my TV screen, ďAw, Crutch, what the h@ll was that?!Ē And yes, I too wondered if playing in front of the ďObi PaparazziĒ went to Crutchís head (ďOooh! NBA scouts! I gotta show Ďem something impressive.Ē). And finally, in AGís 2 seasons here, Iíve seen him yank players who werenít performing to expectations, even with short benches. I hope heís not worried about doing that next year because frankly, at that point in last nightís game, Crutch needed to be sat and needed some tough love from our coach.
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Please all knowing critic, take Neil's job, fire Anthony and start you own coaching staff. You are so much smarter than everyone else, because you can criticize, criticize, criticize, criticize but offer no solutions. Anyone can criticize. Easiest thing in the world to do, because you don't have to take ownership of anything.

So start with YOUR Solutions. Name you coach.
Let's get a list of candidates:
1. Rick Pitino
2. Will Wade
3. Shaka Smart
4. Steve Alford. ( Bring some Ball kids with him)
5. Billy Kennedy
6. Bruce Pearl
7. Ben Howland
8. Bring back Archie. ( Should be real easy for you to do)
9. BG might be willing to come back
10. Purnell is retired
11. Bob Huggins
12. Any of Sean Miller's assistants. (They can coach better than Anthony from jail)
13. Basketball coach at Moeller (They are undefeated this year. See Gerry Faust.)
14. Rocky from Trotwood. He is passionate and given a technical every game.
15. Girls basketball coach from Carroll


That is a great list. Anyone one of them would get UD to the Final Four next year. All of them are so so so so much better than Grant.



Next, what would you have done differently last night to win the game coach?
1. Start Frankie instead of Jalen. Jalen had a bad game
2. Start Ibi Watson instead of Ryan. Ryan had a bad game
3. Used Mr. Miyagi to cure Obi at halftime. I heard that hand thing really works.
4. Used all of your 7 timeouts to settle the team down
5. Played a cover 2 defense. Hey it slowed down the La Rams. Worked for Belichick.
6. Told Josh to shoot a lot more 3s.
7. Run the picket fence at them
8. Have Ricardo Greer set better picks for Jalen

What's the plan coach? Make a bet and buy pizza when you lose?

If you want to bash Anthony every time the team falls short, then apply the same standard to every coach. Most coaches are only as good as the talent on the floor. Anthony does some things I like and some things I don't, but he is not going to dominate the A10 with middle of the pack talent.

Anthony got more out of this team this year than I expected. He can get better, but his team and talent need to get better if UD expects to win the A10 and go to the NCAA every year. Bottom line.

So, I am not going to bash Anthony after every loss. I also am not going to praise him for every win. Josh Cunningham made the winning free throw at Davidson, not Anthony.

If the new England Patriots trade Tom Brady for Andy Dalton, their Super Bowl run would end. Belichick would become another average coach like he was in Cleveland and Baltimore.
I read about 2 sentences before realizing you wasted your time typing all that. Next time make your point before rambling on
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STF you forgot any of Archie's assistant coaches.
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Originally Posted by T-Bone 84 View Post
You and I had the same reaction to that travesty of a pass attempt. When it happened, I yelled at my TV screen, ďAw, Crutch, what the h@ll was that?!Ē And yes, I too wondered if playing in front of the ďObi PaparazziĒ went to Crutchís head (ďOooh! NBA scouts! I gotta show Ďem something impressive.Ē). And finally, in AGís 2 seasons here, Iíve seen him yank players who werenít performing to expectations, even with short benches. I hope heís not worried about doing that next year because frankly, at that point in last nightís game, Crutch needed to be sat and needed some tough love from our coach.
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I will second that I yelled at the tv. However, he had the capability to yank him. Put cohill In (even for a short time). You also have Frankie. If he is that much a liability that he canít get into games unless our Waltonís are in then grant canít evaluate talent and needs to cut him
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In AMs second year, there were a ton of fans on this board calling for his head. In AGs second year there is UDScott calling for his head and probably a few more in the closet, but not a ton in support of UDScottís position.

Iíll give UDScott credit for helping move this program forward because heaven help him heís done his best to round up a posse to run AG out of town and not a lot of fans have signed up for that.

And thus in the end I have to point out as bad as UDScott thinks AG has performed this year, the facts show that UDScottís performance this season is far worse. Itís pretty easy to line up people who like to complain, criticize, and attack public figures these days and yet UDScott hasnít been able to do that. Itís like UDScott lost to a bunch of teams with a NET/RPI in the 300s.
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Good to see udscott back bashing AG. We didn't hear much from him as we were winning 5 of our last 6.
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Remember when Archie took a #1 seed into the A10 tournament, completely puked the first game to #9 Davidson, then took a #7 seed into the NCAA tournament for the second straight year in a row and looked completely overmatched and overcoached against a lower seed for the second year in a row with four senior starters?

I do. Tonight was light years from those postseason debacles.
I'm not sure if this is complacency or a coping mechanism. This program has had many instances where it has missed opportunities/underachieved throughout the years, but that should not justify the effort we saw last night. I don't find any comfort in adding another chapter to that story.
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STF you forgot any of Archie's assistant coaches.
I deliberately ommtted them because they are all very content as head coaches elsewhere. UD has no chance to hire them.

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well AM took 7 players to the elite 8
You can't even get your facts straight. How long have you been a Flyers "fan?"

This is false. The elite 8 team was 10 deep when it came to quality minutes. How many times does this have to be pointed out here before some stop with the fake news?
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In AMs second year, there were a ton of fans on this board calling for his head.
There were many fans calling for Archie's head mere weeks before the Elite 8 run, including me. I see a lot more positive going on in AG's first two seasons than I did during AM's.
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He has proven once again that he is the KING of laying the golden egg, every single time in two years here plus his previous stops when the pressure is on he totally just takes a big ol pile of ��, facts donít lie, but u will have every excuse in the book on why itís not his fault
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Don't understand this board's need to constantly throw Archie under the bus to make AG look better. He took us to an elite 8, he has the benefit of the doubt
I don't think people are doing either. I think they're simply looking at historical comparisons for some perspective.

I do agree that Archie has the benefit of the doubt, deservedly so. But he didn't have the benefit of the doubt in mid-January during the Elite 8 year when many on this board wanted to boot his butt after a 1-5 start and 4 game losing streak in conference play.
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Disappointing loss YES. BUT

I talked to a basketball fan who is neither a fan of Dayton or St Louis and he was not surprised at the loss. He indicated what we already know but refuse to admit to. That Dayton was physically a weaker team. He indicated that St Louis looked like a group of well developed men and they were playing a bunch of boys and it was to be expected that physically they would have their way with The Flyers inside.

For the Flyers to beat St Louis they needed a consistent outside threat and the Flyers did not have one last night. Mikesell was cold . Davis, who would be expected to be that threat, was too streaky, which he has been all year, to fill the role.

I find it ludicrous to blame the coach for losing the game. It was the players who lost that game because individually and in total they did not match up well against St Louis. If the coach had better players or combinations of players to put into the game and did not do so then the blame would be on the coach. That the players in fact played the game close enough to be within winning distance at the end even though they were out-manned seems to be more of a reason to compliment the coach rather than to denigrate him.

We might try to blame the coach for not having the players to match up against St Louis, blame it on his recruiting, but as this is only his second year it is too early to blame his recruiting. And looking at what he has coming in next year, it does not look like recruiting is a big weakness.

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BULLCRAP, they threw a 1-3-1 zone at us in second half and AG had no freaking clue what to do, like a deer in headlights like he has never seen one before, quit trying to defend his horrible in game coaching and his complete mediocrity as a head coach
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This would be a valid question halfway through season #3 or the beginning of season #4 for any new coach. Especially when the coach inherits a team with a bare recruiting cupboard and a few bad attitudes.

So until that time, go troll elsewhere please.
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Disappointing loss YES. BUT

I talked to a basketball fan who is neither a fan of Dayton or St Louis and he was not surprised at the loss. He indicated what we already know but refuse to admit to. That Dayton was physically a weaker team. He indicated that St Louis looked like a group of well developed men and they were playing a bunch of boys and it was to be expected that physically they would have their way with The Flyers inside.

For the Flyers to beat St Louis they needed a consistent outside threat and the Flyers did not have one last night. Mikesell was cold . Davis, who would be expected to be that threat, was too streaky, which he has been all year, to fill the role.

I find it ludicrous to blame the coach for losing the game. It was the players who lost that game because individually and in total they did not match up well against St Louis. If the coach had better players or combinations of players to put into the game and did not do so then the blame would be on the coach. That the players in fact played the game close enough to be within winning distance at the end even though they were out-manned seems to be more of a reason to compliment the coach rather than to denigrate him.

We might try to blame the coach for not having the players to match up against St Louis, blame it on his recruiting, but as this is only his second year it is too early to blame his recruiting. And looking at what he has coming in next year, it does not look like recruiting is a big weakness.
Well stated. All great points. With the zone they were playing, they were "giving" Davis the three point shot most of the game. He was 2-7. Remove the one that got blocked in the last minute, I feel like his other 6 were WIDE OPEN with about as much time as he would like to shoot it. He made 2. That's not going to cut it. Most "sharp shooting" off guards from Top 100 D1 teams will drain the majority of those. They weren't "giving" Crutcher such looks, although he was getting some decent looks from 23/24 feet.

Ford may have coached one of his best games on the Billiken sidelines last night. And the team/players executed the game plan well.
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BULLCRAP, they threw a 1-3-1 zone at us in second half and AG had no freaking clue what to do, like a deer in headlights like he has never seen one before, quit trying to defend his horrible in game coaching and his complete mediocrity as a head coach
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Yeah, he should have been using bounce passes to the baseline to get our forwards some back cut baskets. One problem with that criticism: HE WASNíT PLAYING. And with only 3 true backcourt players, and having to play 2 of those at a time, he had few options. More than 1? Yes. Several? No. Not even close.
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Losing sucks. Waiting for next year sucks. But its what has to be done. We played up to what I thought our ceiling was this season. Short roster, small, young. We do have talent, hopefully it all sticks around.

We're basically looking at half of AGs plan here. I think we'll be better in every way next year with a full roster. If we're in this same spot next year then criticise away.
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BULLCRAP, they threw a 1-3-1 zone at us in second half and AG had no freaking clue what to do, like a deer in headlights like he has never seen one before, quit trying to defend his horrible in game coaching and his complete mediocrity as a head coach
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Yeah, you're right; no way I see UD winning more than 18 games this season...
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We were picked to finish 6th to 9th place we finished 3rd. Vegas over under on wins was 16, we won 21. We lost Matos and literally had no bench.
AG cleaned out the mess in year one and made improvements in year 2 with excellent recruiting and year 3 should be the best.
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Cause they will defend AG no matter what, just like my post AG has always been an average coach, he canít win the big game, and all they wanna do is defend him with every excuse, we only got 7 players they say all the time, well AM took 7 players to the elite 8
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We are defending him because he has us on the right track. We weren't going to be a final 4 team overnight.

If we take a step backwards next year - then yes, we will stop defending him.

He's making progress - as long as that continues I will continue to support him.
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Yes, we played poorly. We had too many turnovers, gave up too many offensive rebounds, and didn't attack the zone well in this particular game. We got beat by a stronger more physical team. But, I think going into the season, and especially after Matos went down, any reasonable person would have taken 13-5 and 21-11 with an NIT bid. Any reasonable person would realize that AG's second season was still a transition/rebuilding season. Even our resident expert (who thinks we went to the Elite 8 with 7 players) thought we would win no more than 18 games. All this bashing and trashing is ridiculous.
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We were picked to finish 6th to 9th place we finished 3rd. Vegas over under on wins was 16, we won 21. We lost Matos and literally had no bench.
AG cleaned out the mess in year one and made improvements in year 2 with excellent recruiting and year 3 should be the best.
It pretty clear:deadhor se:
Vegas had us winning yesterday.
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BULLCRAP, they threw a 1-3-1 zone at us in second half and AG had no freaking clue what to do, like a deer in headlights like he has never seen one before, quit trying to defend his horrible in game coaching and his complete mediocrity as a head coach
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I will call BS on you. Listen to the post game conference from AG. He talked about the variety of zones used by St. Louis this year, including 1-3-1. He knew they would use zone. He said they found success in it in the second half. So, if you think he did not prepare for it, then you are clueless.

Of course player execution had nothing to with the second half. That is because you think players are like chess pieces and the coach controls the entire game.

You would have much more credibility in your criticism of Grant for the poor defense in the second half. The offensive eggiciency for St. Louis except for one dry spell was absolutely ridiculous., especially considering the skills that team possesses.

I think there is a larger beef with their defensive preparation.
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Why is it bashing ? AG is the one who decided we only needed 9 scholarship players this year ? Maybe if he would had 10-11 then we would have won a few more games and went dancing, but no he went with 9 and it backfired, also AG has 1 NCAA tournament bid in his last 8 years but you guys continually just overlook that, u have every excuse to still believe in him when the proof is there not too
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I will call BS on you. Listen to the post game conference from AG. He talked about the variety of zones used by St. Louis this year, including 1-3-1. He knew they would use zone. He said they found success in it in the second half. So, if you think he did not prepare for it, then you are clueless.

Of course player execution had nothing to with the second half. That is because you think players are like chess pieces and the coach controls the entire game.

You would have much more credibility in your criticism of Grant for the poor defense in the second half. The offensive eggiciency for St. Louis except for one dry spell was absolutely ridiculous., especially considering the skills that team possesses.

I think there is a larger beef with their defensive preparation.
Very valid points, STL drove to the rim with ease
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Once again, I ask:
1. Name YOUR Coach.
2. Show us your 1-3-1 offense
3. Name YOUR scholarship recruits

Every coach you name, I guarantee numerous posters can rip apart big time.
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Why is it bashing ? AG is the one who decided we only needed 9 scholarship players this year ? Maybe if he would had 10-11 then we would have won a few more games and went dancing, but no he went with 9 and it backfired, also AG has 1 NCAA tournament bid in his last 8 years but you guys continually just overlook that, u have every excuse to still believe in him when the proof is there not too
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A few possibilities for you to ponder, if you care to do so.

1) Perhaps AG went into this season with 9 scholarship players thinking that he was building for the future and not just for 2018-19?
2) Perhaps he suspected that he and his staff would have a greater chance of landing better players for his program through transfers than through HS recruits, knowing that heíd need to wait 1 more year to see them play for our Flyers in 2019-20?
3) Perhaps his relative lack of success at Alabama was because he ran too clean a program to win against the likes of Calipari, Pearl, and others like them?

Just providing food for thought. Whether you choose to dine on it or not is up to you.
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Davidson down 13 to the horrible SLU team. Guess McKillop can't coach either. Team has no answers for the extending switching SLU defenses.

Or maybe 2 finesse teams getting pushed off their game by a physically dominant team on a roll.

Maybe Davidson comes back and wins but if it does some of that will have to do with a short team playing their 3rd game in 3 days but SLU is doing the same thing they did to us 3/4 of the way through the game. Sometimes the other team deserves some credit.

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Davidson down 13 to the horrible SLU team. Guess McKillop can't coach either. Team has no answers for the extending switching SLU defenses.

Or maybe 2 finesse teams getting pushed off their game by a physically dominant team on a roll.
When I saw the score of the game I knew there would be at least one prider with this terrible take. I actually popped on just to see, thanks for not letting me down.
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When I saw the score of the game I knew there would be at least one prider with this terrible take. I actually popped on just to see, thanks for not letting me down.
Facts and evidence = terrible take? BBall is about matchups. Some people understand that, others blame the coach because it feels better.

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Udscott I need to ask this - in all seriousness are you mentally challenged? Because that is the only thing that makes any sense with your posts.
AG has built up a great roster for next year. If you can not see that then either get back on your meds or see someone to subscribe you some.
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A few possibilities for you to ponder, if you care to do so.

1) Perhaps AG went into this season with 9 scholarship players thinking that he was building for the future and not just for 2018-19?
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Iíll give your thoughts some thought if u will just admit, agree, call it what u want but AG has so far in 11 years of coaching been a MEDIOCRE coach and his NCAA tournament resume is not very good ?
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Why is it bashing ? AG is the one who decided we only needed 9 scholarship players this year ? Maybe if he would had 10-11 then we would have won a few more games and went dancing, but no he went with 9 and it backfired, also AG has 1 NCAA tournament bid in his last 8 years but you guys continually just overlook that, u have every excuse to still believe in him when the proof is there not too
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This is my thought every time someone says he gets a pass for having 7 players. Nobody forced him to recruit Frankie and make him sit the bench. Matos he canít control getting hurt so thatís not on him. Leaving 4 other scholarships open for transfers is on AG and staff and not a valid excuse.
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Just because Ken Pomeroy says its true, doesnt make it true. When you are a #1 seed in the A10 tournament and puke off your first round game to the #9 seed, its a train wreck. Following it up again a week later with another derailment in the NCAAs where you're again outwhipped and outcoached was equally tantalizing for a team with senior-laden Sweet-16 talent. This year's UD team isnt in the same league as that one. Neither are expectations.

That Davidson team that whipped us as a #9 seed? They got destroyed the next night.
We were already in the NCAAT when we lost to Davidson, that is a very big difference, we did not need that win, having motivation to win matters a great deal in these conference tournaments.

And the Wichita State game was a 7 vs. 10 game, those games are basically toss-ups. Same thing with the 7 vs. 10 game against Syracuse. Which is why we need to upgrade our ooc schedule, so that we can give ourselves a chance to get a better seed than a 7 and advance in the NCAAT, otherwise, advancing in the NCAAT is always going to be an uphill battle.

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I ran the Kenpom ooc sos numbers for the last 18 years, we averaged the 7th best ooc schedule in the A10 over the last 18 years, we should be averaging 1st or 2nd place for ooc sos, not 7th.

We can and should be doing better with our ooc sos. 7th place is not good enough when we earn double the revenue of everybody else in the A10.

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New A10

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Old A10 with Butler in 2013, Charlotte leaves the A10 after 2013

2013...13

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2010...5
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2007...10
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Davidson down 13 to the horrible SLU team. Guess McKillop can't coach either. Team has no answers for the extending switching SLU defenses.
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Won the A10 tournament last year and has been to an elite 8.

I don't understand the "exceeds expectations" stance. This year's A10 is the worst it's ever been and we had a rebuilding year last year. Should have dominated the league this year. Instead we're going to the Brian Gregory Invitational.

Meanwhile St Bonnies had an at large last year, is supposedly "rebuilding" this year but still is a top 4 seed and playing for the championship tomorrow

Keep hating on Archie though

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In 365 {+ or -) days we will see a lot about who was right above and who was wrong.

I am old, but it seems like Ohio used to turn out a lot more great HS players. (THE Ohio State University BB coach does not seem to be having a very good year either)
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I like AG and think we have a bright future. But this year was an opportunity lost
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These threads are just like Twitter threads between progressives and conservatives. Apparently there's little middle ground. Either you are an AG apologist who will give him a free pass forever or you're an AG hater who will ignore every fact/circumstance to justify your AG hatred. I'm not sold on AG as a coach yet. I think we've got a pretty good recruiting staff. We'll see if increased talent leads to better outcomes. AG still gets 4 years to establish a track record at UD. Anything less is unreasonable, even though we all want UD to win right now. It just will take that long to really start judging results.
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Don't understand this board's need to constantly throw Archie under the bus to make AG look better. He took us to an elite 8, he has the benefit of the doubt
They all just can't get over that he left to go to IU. Better conference, better visibility, more tradition, bigger fan base, but nevertheless, leaving for all those things makes him a bum in their eyes.

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Yes, in his THIRD season. We were horrible in his second season. Letís compare apples to apples please.
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Iíll give your thoughts some thought if u will just admit, agree, call it what u want but AG has so far in 11 years of coaching been a MEDIOCRE coach and his NCAA tournament resume is not very good ?
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I like AG and think we have a bright future. But this year was an opportunity lost
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I will admit that his record in The Dance is pedestrian at best. What I will NOT admit is that he’s a mediocre coach. Mediocre coaches don’t have career winning percentages that are above 62% (228-138, or .622 after last night). Is he a “great” coach, in the mold of Wooden, Knight, Smith, et al? Probably not even close. But he’s a good coach, I believe he’s the right coach for our program at this time, and I believe we’ll look back at this season as a time when a foundation was built.
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Iím still waiting for you to name a coach. Your previous posts have been mediocre and dodged the question. Easy to criticize. Real hard to make a call.

Please name your coach.
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Don't understand this board's need to constantly throw Archie under the bus to make AG look better. He took us to an elite 8, he has the benefit of the doubt
I donít understand why not! We throw everyone else under the bus. Archie left us with a terrible roster and recruits. He gave up at the end. All the pre-Madonna s and discontents.
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You can't even get your facts straight. How long have you been a Flyers "fan?"

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Don't understand this board's need to constantly throw Archie under the bus to make AG look better. He took us to an elite 8, he has the benefit of the doubt
So, a little history lesson for you if you think some (including me) are ďhard on ArchieĒ and constantly throwing him under the bus since after all, he took us to an Elite 8. This fanbase largely applauded the firing of coach Donoher 30 years ago and Donoher only 5 years prior to the firing had led UD to the Elite 8. Oh, and since you probably donít know that - Donoher is the ONLY UD coach to ever get Dayton to the NCAA final in 67í. And the UD AD at the time knowing all those facts still decided to fire a HOF coach. In the grand scheme of things- what AM did wasnít really all that remarkable was it?
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So, a little history lesson for you if you think some (including me) are “hard on Archie” and constantly throwing him under the bus since after all, he took us to an Elite 8. This fanbase largely applauded the firing of coach Donoher 30 years ago and Donoher only 5 years prior to the firing had led UD to the Elite 8. Oh, and since you probably don’t know that - Donoher is the ONLY UD coach to ever get Dayton to the NCAA final in 67’. And the UD AD at the time knowing all those facts still decided to fire a HOF coach. In the grand scheme of things- what AM did wasn’t really all that remarkable was it?
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Regarding Archie. I think he is an outstanding coach. I was disappointed that he left. I understood why he left. His ambition was higher than UD could offer. He achieved heights for the program not seen since the 1960s(with the exception of 1984).

He struggled during year two. He struggled midway through year 3. His last recruiting big class was not good. He had bad luck with Big Steve dying.

The comparison for Grant is that you win with players who make a difference. Year two for program changes do not include the players who make a difference. Year three is the year. Those who constantly criticize Grant fail to understand that year 3 is the judgement year. That year with his team is the year.

Year 1 for Grant was clear out players who would not buy in. Sometimes it takes that. Year 2 was probably sacrificed for the redshirts coming in. He could have brought in less talented players in year 2, but year 3 might not have been as solid.

If he fails to deliver in year 3, then all complaints are legitimate.

At some point, you have to analyze the players as much as the the coach. You can’t win the A10 with average to below average players at many positions.

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Great coaches get into the NCAAT and win. 62% wins in regular season does not translate to the big stage where coaches and programs are judged. I have no idea how many times heís made it or games won. I just know weíre 0-2 so far
Did I say Grant was a great coach? No. I said I believe heís a good coach, and good for our program at this time. And Iím not particularly happy with 0-2 so far, either, but thatís a very small sample size. If by next April we have yet to win a postseason game under AG, then Iíll be as upset as the next guy (as long as the next guy isnít udscott). But for now, Iím simply a bit disappointed and not ďpitchfork and torchĒ irate.
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Great analysis, STF. Year 3 is the year, in a program like ours, when we should expect to see results. And, I may add, Jordan Sibert became eligible in Year 3 of the Miller era, and in the 2 years he was eligible, our record in the NCAAT was 5-2. Since he graduated, weíve won exactly 0 NCAAT games.

Now, Iím not saying that any 1 of our redshirts will be Sibertís equal. I AM saying that, collectively, they could have a similar impact on our program. In Year 3.
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I don’t understand why Chris can’t just ban UD Scott (ughh, hate that I had to type that) from posting. I would (not) gladly accept never posting on this site again
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Let’s sensor everyone we don’t agree with...history shows us this worked in the past

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Did I say Grant was a great coach? No. I said I believe he’s a good coach, and good for our program at this time. And I’m not particularly happy with 0-2 so far, either, but that’s a very small sample size. If by next April we have yet to win a postseason game under AG, then I’ll be as upset as the next guy (as long as the next guy isn’t udscott). But for now, I’m simply a bit disappointed and not “pitchfork and torch” irate.
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I misread your post then as our definition of good is different. So far I think he has been average. I’m in the same boat as you though it seems with expectations. I thought we would be an nit team this year. However, once the season started to unfold expectations changed. Watered down A10, good showing from flyers against good teams in Atlantis, etc. I really thought we would be #1-2 in A10 and not fizzle out first round.

Is Ford this smart that his 1-3-1 trapping zone caught three coaches off guard in A10T or did they really just not prepare (or execute?) their game Plan?
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The problem is not Scotty, we all know where he is coming from. the problem is other posters taking him on and on, and on. I have him on ignore and the only time his posts appear is when someone quotes him. Same with the madpuppy. just ignore him, plenty if intelligent posters on the board, why entertain a moron.
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Exactly. The prior is a fan board, the latter is a college campus.
I agree. I actually enjoy the ludicrous statements put forth by udscott. Especially when he continues to lose bet after bet.
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Great analysis, STF. Year 3 is the year, in a program like ours, when we should expect to see results. And, I may add, Jordan Sibert became eligible in Year 3 of the Miller era, and in the 2 years he was eligible, our record in the NCAAT was 5-2. Since he graduated, weíve won exactly 0 NCAAT games.

Now, Iím not saying that any 1 of our redshirts will be Sibertís equal. I AM saying that, collectively, they could have a similar impact on our program. In Year 3.
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I will go out on a limb and state that Watson, Jordy, Chatman and Johnson will be the best transfer class we have ever had. Add in Matos and you have a formidable starting five right there.
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I agree. I actually enjoy the ludicrous statements put forth by udscott. Especially when he continues to lose bet after bet.
Is it really losing a bet if you don't pay up?? Asking for a friend..........
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I will go out on a limb and state that Watson, Jordy, Chatman and Johnson will be the best transfer class we have ever had. Add in Matos and you have a formidable starting five right there.
I have wondered throught the season that if you put Obi with the guys that are sitting this year , would that squad be better than the guys on the floor. no way to tell, but I agree the roster takes a big move up next year and that gives AG a whole lot of options he didn't have this year. We were the least fouling team in D-1 this year for a reason, no backups, that disappears next year.
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I donít understand why Chris canít just ban UD Scott (ughh, hate that I had to type that) from posting. I would (not) gladly accept never posting on this site again
if I was assured he couldnít either..really makes me sick to my stomach that he can trash the program and reap the rewards of his sociopathic desire to sit back
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What a stupid post because I donít agree with hiring of AG u want me banned, great college education u got at Sinclair there
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The disappointment to date goes beyond the 0fer in post season. In two years we have little in terms of good wins.
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