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Kurt's defense is matching his offense today. He has no guts on D today.
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Lotta contact on the Dayton end that ain't getting whistled, as is evidenced by the foul disparity. That really ****es me off...call 'em both ways, zebra!
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Absolutely horrible rebounding effort--Huelsman and Searcy getting thrown around like rag dolls.
Everyone on this team needs to get into the gym this summer and work on mid-range jump shots
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I'll take down 6 all things considered. MJ, CL, & CJ have given us next to nothing offensively. Although we can't expect Kansas to keep giving us gifts by missing free throws.
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We just shot 23% from the field and are down 6.
We need to make some serious adjustments to account for Aldrich, and get better shots.
I don't think Charles took a decent shot the entire half.
We aren't done, yet. Let's get hot in the 2nd half!
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Just look....
too tight on offense. We are playing great defense, if we can just get going on offense, we win this one. Don't you just have a feeling that CW is going to have a big second half? I also like Luke taking some more threes....
Can BG get these guys settled down and put these guys away?
Let's go Flyers. You can take this one!
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I can't complain much about that half except for all the wasted possessions.
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Not that there's ever really a good time for wasted possessions, it seemed like the majority of ours came when a score would have provided a huge lift - chances to cut the lead to one, tie it, or take the lead. For example, there was that chance when it looked like Wright had come free along the baseline, a play where he normally catches the ball and powers in for a dunk. Today, it clanged off of his leg (I think). Those times hurt.
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Well - given how we shot and played - Down 6 isn't bad. Especially given the disparity of foul calls. Time to earn your money Coach - make the adjustments.
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Foul situation is fine. If the Flyers can just hit some perimter shots consistently the middle will open up for CW.
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Down 6. Shooting horribly. I can live with that.
Luke gave us a big boost but they were playing junk D on him at the end of the half. It was either a diamond and 1 or it almost looked like a 1-3 zone with a chaser on Luke. If they do that Luke is going to have to work to get open which I don't know if he can.
We have to rebound better and take better care of the ball. I really think we can win this if we can hit a few outside shots when in half court sets and get out and run as much as possible.
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gotta come out strong 2nd half. first 5 minutes are huge. go balls out, adrenaline will keep us in it late if its close!
TIME TO LEAVE IT ALL ON THE FLOOR!!!
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Well thank goodness that's over. Somehow we're only down 6 We have to box out and somebody has to start hitting threes to get them out of that zone or something. Huelsman can stop Aldrich, problem is Collins is in the lane every other possession, Kurt steps up to help, the shot is missed, he can't find Aldrich fast enough. Believe me, if we stop the penetration Aldrich won't get so many easy buckets and rebounds.
I'm still in disbelief that we are only down 6, that half was just atrocious. About like the A-10 tourney Duquesne game or the 2nd half of the UMass game.
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Only down 6. Didn't play offensively very well at all. Have to find some way to neutralize Aldrich. We're in this! One half to go!
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Plain and simple Kansas is going to keep playing a junk defense if Luke is the only one who can knock down a triple. In order to win Marcus, Mickey, CJ, and PW need to make something to keep Kansas honest. There are just no driving lanes right now.
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already giving this one to Kansas. Let's serve up some more crow Flyers. Not impressed with KU at all, we can take this game. Keep up the defensive pressure, stop the stupid turnovers, make some shots, and get Luke in for more threes, and we are on to Indy.
I just have a feeling that we are going to come out hot in the second half, catch KU overconfident, and pull away. MUCH different than I would have felt last year.
Indy, here we come baby!!!!!
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Some of the worst shots I've seen this year. we can't make a layup
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I'm still in disbelief that we are only down 6, that half was just atrocious. About like the A-10 tourney Duquesne game or the 2nd half of the UMass game.
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Defense is solid, but we need to make some offensive adjustments to give our scorer looks they are comfortable with. If we do that I like our chances. BG is going to have to do one heck of a job to pt us in position to win. He can.
They actually had a defense at the ned of the half designed to slow down Luke. It would be great if we can give him some open looks.
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Only down 6...we're fine. We played a really bad first half and we're lucky to still be in the game, but I think KU played a poor first half as well. Look for them to come out and hit a higher percentage as well. If we're gonna win this game, we will have to get in the paint more and shoot better. We do those things and we're in good shape I think. Go Flyers!
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Only down 6. Didn't play offensively very well at all. Have to find some way to neutralize Aldrich. We're in this! One half to go!
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9-40 FG for Dayton. If Kansas wasn't 3-10 at the line, we'd definitely be out of this one. Have to take advantage while we can.
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9-40 FG for Dayton. If Kansas wasn't 3-10 at the line, we'd definitely be out of this one. Have to take advantage while we can.
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Need to see Perry more at the point and DS more in the post. KH and London have been terrible at both ends. I'm not bashing just telling it like it is. London threw one off of Wright's feet that would have been a huge slam. I can't believe we are in this after that half. Play decent this half and we win!!
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KH is going to have to get mad and throw an elbow in Aldrich's face. but with our luck he'll miss and hit CW (just joking, .....a little)
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In addition to consistenly hitting mid-range to outside jump shots, is there anything else Dayton can do offensively to counter Aldrich? It seems like a smaller lineup might help, but I guess until Dayton proves it can hit from outside there's really no reason for Aldrich to leave the paint, huh?
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If UD hits 40% of its shots in the 2nd half and keeps rebounding, then this game is winnable (unless KU starts hitting their shots). What's KU shooting?
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Need to see Perry more at the point and DS more in the post. KH and London have been terrible at both ends. I'm not bashing just telling it like it is. London threw one off of Wright's feet that would have been a huge slam. I can't believe we are in this after that half. Play decent this half and we win!!
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In addition to consistenly hitting mid-range to outside jump shots, is there anything else Dayton can do offensively to counter Aldrich? It seems like a smaller lineup might help, but I guess until Dayton proves it can hit from outside there's really no reason for Aldrich to leave the paint, huh?
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Refs will foul us out of this game. Let them fricking play.
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Aldrich traveled the last time he had the ball on O and there was no call.
I thought CW was going to get the roll on that lefty.
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I know, but I was just to figure out how to reduce his effectiveness on at least one end of the floor.
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Kurt with his 3rd foul and to the bench he goes. I can't really say I'm upset about that.
CL is completely ineffective against them. We may need to just try going with a small lineup with all of our shooters. Put CW on Aldrich if he is in the game and spread it out.
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He can't guard him tight - he gets blown by every time.
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Searcy doesn't have the body to stay with Aldrich
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WHAT?!?! THEY CALLED A CHARGE?!?! Bout time we got one going our way.
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Aldrich is killing us defensively. STOP driving at him and shooting. He is either blocking it or making us take such a horrible shot it has no chance of going in. Shoot a pull up jumper!!!!!!!!!!!
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They've made one count 'em one pull up jumper all day
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poor shooting just caught up to us....KU up 10...gonna be tough now.
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03-22-2009, 04:02 PM
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We needed to come out this half and score early -- we didn't and we are now officially in serious trouble because we are not a good come-from-behind team.
Down 10 is more than we can recover from, IMO.
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03-22-2009, 04:02 PM
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I don't know if we score 10 more points the rest of the game. And still MJ has done nothing.
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03-22-2009, 04:02 PM
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Well
down ten and not looking good. First time today I have felt like we cannot pull this out. If we do not get some offense, it's over.... Bummer....
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03-22-2009, 04:02 PM
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Originally Posted by kiefaber455
They've made one count 'em one pull up jumper all day
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I know but at least it would hit the rim rather than just Aldrich catching it and them going the other way
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03-22-2009, 04:04 PM
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hopefully in the offseason gregory will have these guys working on the midrange jumper
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03-22-2009, 04:05 PM
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Trying to force too much offense. If we're going to shoot 3's we have to give it to the guys who can and no one else.
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03-22-2009, 04:05 PM
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When 3 of our best offensive players dont show up (MJ, CJ, CL) we don't have a snowballs chance in you know what.
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03-22-2009, 04:05 PM
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Disgusting shooting inside and out. hoping to keep it to single digits
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03-22-2009, 04:05 PM
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Come on Kurt
Show them the "INTAGIBLES" .
Anyone remember the last time he put one in the hoop???
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03-22-2009, 04:05 PM
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we need some three's to get back into this....
or better yet, can anyone make a shot today?
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03-22-2009, 04:05 PM
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This is sad 2-14 from the floor
Playing like a bunch of junior high schoolers--they're now playing scared
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03-22-2009, 04:06 PM
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come on fellas.....get someone in the high post who can turn and hit a jumper...put luke there or MJ. need a bucket in the worst way
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03-22-2009, 04:08 PM
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What do we have to do to get a foul inside???
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03-22-2009, 04:08 PM
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It's amazing how the lack of a consistent jump shot can just kill a team. It feels like Dayton just doesn't have that one player, or his wingman, that you know can hit a jump shot when you need to stem the tide.
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03-22-2009, 04:08 PM
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why is cw shooting three's? i know he makes one every now and then, but that is not his shot.
i say just set some screens and let farizius go nuts. he's the only one i have any faith in shooting the 3.
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03-22-2009, 04:08 PM
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Aldrich is owning us!
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03-22-2009, 04:08 PM
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Refs Not Reason losing, but not calling good for us
allowing us to get hammered down low and touch fouls out top -- we are not adjusting.
Clearly not reason we are losing, but annoying . ..
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03-22-2009, 04:09 PM
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This team exposed our weakness's. a very bad matchup and good coaching. no shooting PG and no center
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03-22-2009, 04:09 PM
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Marcus has flat out sucked.
Glad to see Devin getting into the offensive action....
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03-22-2009, 04:09 PM
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we have to be the worst half-court offense team left in the tournament
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03-22-2009, 04:10 PM
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We are playing great defensively(they've only got 42) but this is the worst offensive display I have seen all year. I realize they are playing good defense too but our offense is abysmal
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03-22-2009, 04:10 PM
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We are horrible out there today. Some of the worst shooting of the year.
Now we aren't even playing defense.
When will we figure out we can't shoot over Aldrich?
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03-22-2009, 04:10 PM
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It seems to me the fouls are being called in favor of Kanas....
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03-22-2009, 04:10 PM
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Sorry to say the season is just about over--good year, sad way to end it, however.
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03-22-2009, 04:11 PM
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PW looked uninspired right there. looks like our heads are out of it now
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03-22-2009, 04:11 PM
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MP came to play!
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We finally score and Williams with no effort on D lets that slow white kid beat him down the court.
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