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Old 04-30-2020, 10:54 AM
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Grant in at #21

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Just say'n

There should be an initial moral/ethical go-no-go threshold to be eligble. Use the tried and true NCAA Selection Criteria of a "sniff test".

Our guy just might move up a few slots.

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Old 04-30-2020, 12:42 PM
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Ron Harper would have been higher rated. And one of the assistants would have been in the top ten...just sayin'......
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Old 04-30-2020, 01:32 PM
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Ron Harper was pretty good, but I think you mean Ray Harper.
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Archie Miller was better, based on results only up to this point. Better for sure than Penny Hardaway. Memphis was atrocious late last season.
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Archie Miller was better, based on results only up to this point. Better for sure than Penny Hardaway. Memphis was atrocious late last season.
The statement about Archie here is sarcasm..........right?
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21 seems about right. Many in front of him have been at their current positions much longer than three years. If all goes well, AG would rise if a similar list is developed in 10 years.
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The statement about Archie here is sarcasm..........right?
Nope.
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Last three years at IU didn't help AM's case as far as this ranking. Do this three year's ago while he was at UD and I'm sure he would have been ranked. But as it is he is probably one more so-so year from the unemployment line.
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Originally Posted by UD62 View Post
Last three years at IU didn't help AM's case as far as this ranking. Do this three year's ago while he was at UD and I'm sure he would have been ranked. But as it is he is probably one more so-so year from the unemployment line.

The article is ranking the best "hires", not the best "coaches". Archie Miller's time at Indiana is completely irrelevant to how good or bad a hire he was for UD. I think Archie Miller and Grant were both fantastic hires for UD.

To that point, I don't understand the list anyways. Why would they not count Brad Stevens or John Beilein, but they count Shaka Smart at VCU? I don't agree with the logic, but that is normal for me to disagree with random ranking articles.
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The article is ranking the best "hires", not the best "coaches". Archie Miller's time at Indiana is completely irrelevant to how good or bad a hire he was for UD. I think Archie Miller and Grant were both fantastic hires for UD.

To that point, I don't understand the list anyways. Why would they not count Brad Stevens or John Beilein, but they count Shaka Smart at VCU? I don't agree with the logic, but that is normal for me to disagree with random ranking articles.
They say anyone at the next level right now or in transit between levels (Donovan, Stevens, Beilein) were not included.
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The article is ranking the best "hires", not the best "coaches". Archie Miller's time at Indiana is completely irrelevant to how good or bad a hire he was for UD. I think Archie Miller and Grant were both fantastic hires for UD.

To that point, I don't understand the list anyways. Why would they not count Brad Stevens or John Beilein, but they count Shaka Smart at VCU? I don't agree with the logic, but that is normal for me to disagree with random ranking articles.
As I said, conduct the rankings three years ago AM probably makes the list as a good hire for UD. But as the ranking was done today, he would be ranked as a hire for IU and not ranked so well.
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Old 04-30-2020, 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by UD62 View Post
As I said, conduct the rankings three years ago AM probably makes the list as a good hire for UD. But as the ranking was done today, he would be ranked as a hire for IU and not ranked so well.

Shaka Smart was listed as a hire for VCU. Rick Pitino was listed as a hire for Louisville. Jamie Dixon was listed as a hire for Pitt.
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Old 04-30-2020, 07:42 PM
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If there was a list of stupid lists, I’d put this on the list at #21.
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Exactly. This is the result of no sports for the past six weeks.

Next week: The Mount Rushmore of "Best Coaching hires"...
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Shaka Smart was listed as a hire for VCU. Rick Pitino was listed as a hire for Louisville. Jamie Dixon was listed as a hire for Pitt.
Exactly. In theory we could have had Archie and Grant on the list. If they deemed them both top 25 worthy. Just seems arbitrary to not include retired or NBA coaches, but they include coaches that moved on to other schools.
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Old 04-30-2020, 10:28 PM
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Nope.
Archie's first 3 years at UD: 63-38 (26-22) - highest conference finish was 5th. Lowest finish was 11th.

Grant's first 3 years: 64-31 (39-15) with two top 3 finishes. Lowest conference finish was 9th. I think it's safe to add at least.....4 wins to AG's total this year (seems conservative). Not to mention a Coach of the Year award.

I'm trying to find any measurement where Archie was better in the first three years. The best I can do is that he made it to the Elite Eight - which was awesome - but Grant had a great opportunity to match or beat that this year - so I' m calling that one a draw.

I know Grant has the benefit of the 18-0 conference records this year, but he only needed to go 6-12 this year to beat Archie's first 3 years in conference (so, just be as good as LaSalle).
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Just a bunch of reporters trying to keep their jobs during this no sports time and writing a lot of ridiculous articles.
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Just a bunch of reporters trying to keep their jobs during this no sports time and writing a lot of ridiculous articles.
Really easy solution here. Don't read it.
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Really easy solution here. Don't read it.
Sure.

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Really easy solution here. Don't read it.
I don't read 99% of the headlines that come across my phone. I only read this one because it was on UDPride...or is it DUPride???
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Really easy solution here. Don't read it.
If we don't read it, how are we going to know what is on the other side of our picket fences?
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