Rodney out 6-8 Weeks

[lhsgolf19]

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Rodney Chatman had successful surgery today to repair a torn ligament in his right hand.

He is expected to miss approximately six-to-eight weeks.

[soccergod]

Funny no word on RJ
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[lhsgolf19]

Originally Posted by soccergod Funny no word on RJ Posted via Mobile Device

Why is that funny? RJ is probably day to day like Weaver was.

[TA111]

Originally Posted by lhsgolf19 Why is that funny? RJ is probably day to day like Weaver was.

That’s my understanding as AG stated before the game that he would warm up and see how he was feeling.

[PalmBeachFlyer]

Does RC come back next year?

[soccergod]

Funny we hadn’t heard , at least not most of us , just an expression !
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[hawkoooo]

Devastating. Some people on this board probably think the offense will really get going now. No more Chatman to slow us down.

I'd honestly be surprised at this point if we finish over .500. If you count Cohill (I do), we've now lost three starters, all of them upperclassmen.

[steverino015]

how was the injury sustained?

what happened...

[T-Bone 84]

Originally Posted by PalmBeachFlyer Does RC come back next year?

A valid question. Next year, he would be a 6th year senior/grad student. It all depends on what he wants to do.
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[hawkoooo]

Originally Posted by PalmBeachFlyer Does RC come back next year?

A month ago I would've said no chance. You need to maximize on your market value. I have no doubt Rodney can make good money overseas for the next decade, but with the way this season has gone (very short non-con) and now probably being out for the year his stock is going to take a hit.

[CE80]

Originally Posted by hawkoooo A month ago I would've said no chance. You need to maximize on your market value. I have no doubt Rodney can make good money overseas for the next decade, but with the way this season has gone (very short non-con) and now probably being out for the year his stock is going to take a hit.

Who knows what the market for players is going to be like overseas?

[TA111]

Originally Posted by T-Bone 84 A valid question. Next year, he would be a 6th year senior/grad student. It all depends on what he wants to do. Posted via Mobile Device

He’d be a 25 year old senior. I doubt that happens.

[springborofan]

Originally Posted by hawkoooo A month ago I would've said no chance. You need to maximize on your market value. I have no doubt Rodney can make good money overseas for the next decade, but with the way this season has gone (very short non-con) and now probably being out for the year his stock is going to take a hit.

I have a lot of doubt Rodney will make good money overseas for the next decade...

Not trying to bash him but I just don’t see enough for him to make it overseas. I think he is a good college ball player but I hope he is keeping up with his studies because, like the enterprise commercial, I think he will be one of the 98% who do not go on to play professionally.

[San Diego Flyer]

Rodney is really good at what he is good for. Hard nose defense. Attitude on the floor. Second point guard in limited minutes. When he is healthy, gets into the lane.

Does Coach have that covered elsewhere next season? We will see.

[MNFats]

Originally Posted by springborofan I have a lot of doubt Rodney will make good money overseas for the next decade... Not trying to bash him but I just don’t see enough for him to make it overseas. I think he is a good college ball player but I hope he is keeping up with his studies because, like the enterprise commercial, I think he will be one of the 98% who do not go on to play professionally.

You might be surprised. Pretty much any player that has been a key contributor for us has found employment playing basketball after their UD career. Not saying they are all making great money, but there have been ~40 Flyers playing professionally around the world in the last 10 years. Some of them not nearly as talented as RC.

If he wants to play overseas, I think he gets the chance.

That said - I would love to see him back for one more go after seeing his season come to a disappointing end 2 years in a row.

https://basketball.usbasket.com/team...ton/576?Page=4

[NJFlyr71]

Places his comeback late season (if at all). I would think with a hand injury after some down time he can start conditioning (running, bike, etc) but no weights.

Where UD is late Feb is anyone's guess right now. We may never see him play again this season.

[OSU Flyer]

I wouldn't complain if he came back but I don't think another season is going to make him anymore money in Europe. You've got a limited career as an athlete

[Canonball]

Really early to be playing for next year but I'm afraid that's where the Flyers might be. Tough to replace the guys who graduated, especially Obi, but the lack of depth has been laid bare. I didn't in my wildest dreams think we'd lose to LaSalle and Fordham but as the man said 'ball don't lie'.

	Fordham FORDHAM Fordham University is an independent Jesuit university established in 1841 as St. John's College on old Rose Hill Manor in the village of Fordham, then part of Westchester County in the Bronx, NY. The name Fordham is derived from the Anglo-Saxon words "ford" and "ham," meaning a wading place or ford by a settlement. Rose Hill is the name given to the site in 1787 by Robert Watts, a wealthy New York merchant, in honor of his family's ancestral home of the same name in Scotland. The College was originally staffed by diocesan clergy. The name was officially changed to Fordham University in 1907. Fordham's 10 schools enroll 14,448 students. There are 7,652 undergraduates, of whom 3,842 live in University-managed housing either on-campus or in the local community. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams. Athletic claim to fame is consistent mediocrity in nearly all sports and few A10 title winning programs.

	LaSalle LA SALLE In 1863, La Salle University was established through the legacy of St. John Baptist de La Salle and the Christian Brothers teaching order, which De La Salle founded 300 years ago. Located in Philadelphia, La Salle is an educational community shaped by traditional Catholic and Lasallian values. La Salle's main campus is an ideal place for students to pursue an education. The 130-acre park-like setting includes 54 buildings and is located approximately six miles from Center City Philadelphia. The University can accommodate 2,114 resident students in its 12 residence halls, two apartment complexes, and 75 townhouses. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Explorers. Notable athletes include Tom Gola and Lionel Simmons.

[hawkoooo]

Originally Posted by MNFats You might be surprised. Pretty much any player that has been a key contributor for us has found employment playing basketball after their UD career. Not saying they are all making great money, but there have been ~40 Flyers playing professionally around the world in the last 10 years. Some of them not nearly as talented as RC. If he wants to play overseas, I think he gets the chance. That said - I would love to see him back for one more go after seeing his season come to a disappointing end 2 years in a row. https://basketball.usbasket.com/team...ton/576?Page=4

Thank you. I couldn't believe I was getting pushback on such an uncontroversial statement.

[Jeff]

Originally Posted by steverino015 how was the injury sustained? what happened...

Mmmm....seems like a collective "Sergeant Schultz" going on here.

[zmz723]

Originally Posted by hawkoooo Devastating. Some people on this board probably think the offense will really get going now. No more Chatman to slow us down.

I kinda thought that for one game. Then we put up 54 points vs Fordham running the slowest offense I've ever seen. Get well soon Rodney

	Fordham FORDHAM Fordham University is an independent Jesuit university established in 1841 as St. John's College on old Rose Hill Manor in the village of Fordham, then part of Westchester County in the Bronx, NY. The name Fordham is derived from the Anglo-Saxon words "ford" and "ham," meaning a wading place or ford by a settlement. Rose Hill is the name given to the site in 1787 by Robert Watts, a wealthy New York merchant, in honor of his family's ancestral home of the same name in Scotland. The College was originally staffed by diocesan clergy. The name was officially changed to Fordham University in 1907. Fordham's 10 schools enroll 14,448 students. There are 7,652 undergraduates, of whom 3,842 live in University-managed housing either on-campus or in the local community. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams. Athletic claim to fame is consistent mediocrity in nearly all sports and few A10 title winning programs.

[Buckleyma]

Originally Posted by MNFats You might be surprised. Pretty much any player that has been a key contributor for us has found employment playing basketball after their UD career. Not saying they are all making great money, but there have been ~40 Flyers playing professionally around the world in the last 10 years. Some of them not nearly as talented as RC. If he wants to play overseas, I think he gets the chance. That said - I would love to see him back for one more go after seeing his season come to a disappointing end 2 years in a row. MNFats: This is a great link to where former players are currently playing or did finish up there professional playing period. I’ve been looking for this kind of link. This is greatness. Thank you for sharing the link. https://basketball.usbasket.com/team...ton/576?Page=4

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[springborofan]

My issue was around the comment “good money” and a decade. I’m sure he could find a low level Euro/Asian league to play in for a couple years. Kevin Dillard, Keith W. and Devin Searcy fall in the category of good money and a decade. I doubt he will follow in their footsteps. Just my opinion.

Edit: i just looked at my initial comment. I stand corrected. I said he wouldn’t play professionally. I do think he can play professionally.

[steve]

Originally Posted by springborofan I have a lot of doubt Rodney will make good money overseas for the next decade... Not trying to bash him but I just don’t see enough for him to make it overseas. I think he is a good college ball player but I hope he is keeping up with his studies because, like the enterprise commercial, I think he will be one of the 98% who do not go on to play professionally.

He'll never play on an A team in a basketball-crazed country. Those guys are the ones that make good/great $. He's a B team player. Very limited but can spell a player for a few minutes here and there professionally overseas.

[steve]

Originally Posted by MNFats You might be surprised. Pretty much any player that has been a key contributor for us has found employment playing basketball after their UD career. Not saying they are all making great money, but there have been ~40 Flyers playing professionally around the world in the last 10 years. Some of them not nearly as talented as RC. If he wants to play overseas, I think he gets the chance. That said - I would love to see him back for one more go after seeing his season come to a disappointing end 2 years in a row. https://basketball.usbasket.com/team...ton/576?Page=4

He didn't say he wouldn't play overseas. Not everybody that plays overseas makes "good" money whatever that is. Big difference.There are A teams, B teams, etc. Almost any Tom, Dick or Harry that has been a multiple year starter on a D1 team that has a good agent, a skill or two along with a really good attitude can play overseas somewhere.

[funeralplanner]

Originally Posted by steverino015 how was the injury sustained? what happened...

It happened against Lasalle, I saw him go down and grab his hand. It was towards the end of the game under our basket.

	LaSalle LA SALLE In 1863, La Salle University was established through the legacy of St. John Baptist de La Salle and the Christian Brothers teaching order, which De La Salle founded 300 years ago. Located in Philadelphia, La Salle is an educational community shaped by traditional Catholic and Lasallian values. La Salle's main campus is an ideal place for students to pursue an education. The 130-acre park-like setting includes 54 buildings and is located approximately six miles from Center City Philadelphia. The University can accommodate 2,114 resident students in its 12 residence halls, two apartment complexes, and 75 townhouses. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Explorers. Notable athletes include Tom Gola and Lionel Simmons.

[MNFats]

Originally Posted by steve He didn't say he wouldn't play overseas. Not everybody that plays overseas makes "good" money whatever that is. Big difference.There are A teams, B teams, etc. Almost any Tom, Dick or Harry that has been a multiple year starter on a D1 team that has a good agent, a skill or two along with a really good attitude can play overseas somewhere.

The exact quote was:

"Not trying to bash him but I just don’t see enough for him to make it overseas. I think he is a good college ball player but I hope he is keeping up with his studies because, like the enterprise commercial, I think he will be one of the 98% who do not go on to play professionally."

That sounds like he's saying he won't play professionally in Europe.

[Schebby]

Just re-shape his face-mask to a hand guard. Problem solved!

I am a 2nd Lieutenant after all

[hawkoooo]

Originally Posted by steve He'll never play on an A team in a basketball-crazed country. Those guys are the ones that make good/great $. He's a B team player. Very limited but can spell a player for a few minutes here and there professionally overseas.

Are you a scout? If not you should really consider it.

[steve]

Originally Posted by MNFats The exact quote was: "Not trying to bash him but I just don’t see enough for him to make it overseas. I think he is a good college ball player but I hope he is keeping up with his studies because, like the enterprise commercial, I think he will be one of the 98% who do not go on to play professionally." That sounds like he's saying he won't play professionally in Europe.

If you're going to reply and say what his exact quote was you might want to include what his "exact quote" really was.

You left off the first paragraph where he said " I have a lot of doubt Rodney will make "good money" overseas for the next decade...

[Flyerferd]

I heard Seth Davis say last night he was only going to be out another four weeks? Maybe he had it wrong? this could become important, as I’m thinking one if not both of our George Washington games will be canceled/rescheduled. This could mean an additional two games for him.
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	George Washington GEORGE WASHINGTON Students choose from two distinct GW campuses — Foggy Bottom and Mount Vernon. Both are located in historic and prestigious Northwest Washington, DC residential neighborhoods. With 9,700 undergraduate students, GW was founded almost 200 years ago and is named after the first President of the United States. GW stands as one of the nation's premier academic institutions with dozens of famous political, social, science, liberal arts, medical and professional graduates to its credit. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Colonials.

[San Diego Flyer]

After watching our incredible win over Davidson (who plays at warp speed), I would kiss the earth if Rodney decided to come back. He possesses exactly what we need to beat teams that can play hard nose defense and shoot like they can. Their defense is rabid and Chatman could have helped a lot on offense and defense---scraping, clawing, screening, attitude, and point relief.

In fact our young players should have learned something about playing fast from watching Davidson on both ends.

How did we win that game? Jalen. But Rodney could have helped on Grady, and we have Bones Hyland ahead of us.

[Jeff]

All I know is that we can turn it over at high rate with or without him. We can cut TO's down also. We can play like crap against Fordham, and then beat a good Davidson team on the road without him. Yes, at times he plays great D, then he has a mental lapse into foolish fouls and spending time belaboring the referee's.

If he makes it back this year, he'll have a role, but I dont think it's at 30+ minutes.....more like 20 minutes / game now. I don't see him as a determinant to a game once he returns.

	Fordham FORDHAM Fordham University is an independent Jesuit university established in 1841 as St. John's College on old Rose Hill Manor in the village of Fordham, then part of Westchester County in the Bronx, NY. The name Fordham is derived from the Anglo-Saxon words "ford" and "ham," meaning a wading place or ford by a settlement. Rose Hill is the name given to the site in 1787 by Robert Watts, a wealthy New York merchant, in honor of his family's ancestral home of the same name in Scotland. The College was originally staffed by diocesan clergy. The name was officially changed to Fordham University in 1907. Fordham's 10 schools enroll 14,448 students. There are 7,652 undergraduates, of whom 3,842 live in University-managed housing either on-campus or in the local community. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams. Athletic claim to fame is consistent mediocrity in nearly all sports and few A10 title winning programs.

[MNFats]

Originally Posted by steve If you're going to reply and say what his exact quote was you might want to include what his "exact quote" really was. You left off the first paragraph where he said " I have a lot of doubt Rodney will make "good money" overseas for the next decade...

Even with the first paragraph - it it doesn't change what he is saying (which is why I left it off). Someone else said RC would make "good money". His statement was that not only will he not make "good money" (that's the first paragraph), but he won't play professionally at all (2nd paragraph - the important part).

And I'm saying if he wants to play overseas, he will. And yes, people on this board are saying he isn't good enough for that.

Are you really trying to say his 2nd paragraph isn't specifically saying that RC won't play professionally at all?

If so - I have some tips for reading:

- Top to bottom
- Left to right
- Tylenol for headaches
- Midol for cramps

That's a movie quote for the younger crowd on here.

[steve]

Originally Posted by MNFats Even with the first paragraph - it it doesn't change what he is saying (which is why I left it off). Someone else said RC would make "good money". His statement was that not only will he not make "good money" (that's the first paragraph), but he won't play professionally at all (2nd paragraph - the important part). And I'm saying if he wants to play overseas, he will. And yes, people on this board are saying he isn't good enough for that. Are you really trying to say his 2nd paragraph isn't specifically saying that RC won't play professionally at all? If so - I have some tips for reading: - Top to bottom - Left to right - Tylenol for headaches - Midol for cramps That's a movie quote for the younger crowd on here.

I'm going to simplify this for you as much as I can before it becomes remedial because you're getting backed into a corner here and there's very little room left to go.

Rodney will play overseas if he desires. Rodney will not make good top $ type money by however that is measured. I really hope that is not too difficult too understand but I have a feeling you'll want to rebuttal it either way.

[Bill McPeek]

Rodney will play overseas

[MNFats]

Originally Posted by steve I'm going to simplify this for you as much as I can before it becomes remedial because you're getting backed into a corner here and there's very little room left to go. Rodney will play overseas if he desires. Rodney will not make good top $ type money by however that is measured. I really hope that is not too difficult too understand but I have a feeling you'll want to rebuttal it either way.

It's funny, because you and I agree on that. My initial point in an earlier post was that any Flyer who was a key contributor here has gone on to play professionally. I even called out that not all of them make great money. I also provided a link showing where many former Flyers were last seen playing professionally and mentioned that there have been around 40 Flyers playing professionally in the last 10 years.

You and I agree on all of that. So I'm not sure what you're trying to argue here.

Our little back and forth here wasn't about my beliefs at all, but my interpretation of something someone else said (that RC wasnt good enough to play professionally)...which you seem to have let go of.

EDIT: I just saw the post where Springboro chimed in on his own post that we were debating. He confirmed that he said RC would not play professionally, but also said he believes RC will. Sorry I missed that post earlier, but that should put an end this this debate. Thanks Springboro!

I think we can move forward.

Go Flyers!

[hawkoooo]

Originally Posted by Flyerferd I heard Seth Davis say last night he was only going to be out another four weeks? Maybe he had it wrong? this could become important, as I’m thinking one if not both of our George Washington games will be canceled/rescheduled. This could mean an additional two games for him. Posted via Mobile Device

I brushed it off the first couple times but he said it so many times it made me wonder if he knows something we don't. 4-6 weeks is a lot easier pill to swallow than 6-8.

Getting him back to 100% by the A10 tourney would be a massive boost.

	George Washington GEORGE WASHINGTON Students choose from two distinct GW campuses — Foggy Bottom and Mount Vernon. Both are located in historic and prestigious Northwest Washington, DC residential neighborhoods. With 9,700 undergraduate students, GW was founded almost 200 years ago and is named after the first President of the United States. GW stands as one of the nation's premier academic institutions with dozens of famous political, social, science, liberal arts, medical and professional graduates to its credit. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Colonials.