CSM's Top 144 countdown has begun

[UD62]

Originally Posted by LI Flyer Have to believe at this point that both UD and GWU are not included in the top 144. To tell the truth, I can live with that and in fact love the idea that few feel that we are top 50 worthy. I love surprising people!!!

O ye of little faith

[lhsgolf19]

We are #48... 4th in A10

http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/7381

They have us going to the NCAA... Who is Dean Oliver? lol

[El Shaqtus]

Originally Posted by El Shaqtus 48. Should be 3rd or 4th in the A-10. Depends on what the pundits do with UMass. VCU (10-15), SLU (30-35), UD/Lasalle/UMass (40-50).

Well, that means I got one team right.

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

[Mich Flyer]

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Originally Posted by ud2 I'm surprised. I thought Dayton would be rated much worse in this poll than Xavier, unless of course they don't have them in their top 144. Mich Flyer - Dayton will be better than Xavier this year.

Originally Posted by udflyerhoops2 View Post
Temple's in at #72.

While I am confident in the team we have this year...can you believe that CSM thinks UD is going to be a better team than Temple?

Glen Clark - I'm confident that CSM doesn't have Dayton in their top 144, that's what I'm confident in.

Mich Flyer - I'm confident Dayton is rated #48 and is listed to be in the NCAA Tournament.

http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/7381

	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	Temple TEMPLE UNIVERSITY Founded in 1884 by Dr. Russell Conwell, Temple College became Temple University in 1907. Located in Philadelphia, Temple is a comprehensive public research university with 34,000 students, 8 campuses, and 300 academic degree programs. Notable alumni include Bill Cosby and Daryl Hall. Temple's nickname is the Owls and are fellow A10 Conference members.

[Viperstick]

Originally Posted by walkon 48. Better than I expected. http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/7381

...and NCAA bound as well. Don't read the press clippings, prove it on the court, Flyers.

[Flyer Al]

http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/...l/bracketology

According to their Bracketology page UD is the last at-large team to get into the tournament. I assume they think UD will win a "home game" at the First Four?

[tirebiter]

To tell the truth, I thought I was being wildly optimistic when I said 47. I was almost ready to accept I was off by an even hundred...

Nice to see the Flyers and "NCAA tournament" on the same page.

I realize, though, it's no sure thing.

After thinking more about it, Defense with a capital D is my only concern. (That and Pixie Dust to cover breaks, chemistry and health.)

If Archie can motivate the team to realize that the best offense is triggered from solid defense we may have ourselves an NCAA team this year.

[Beatty Town Coach]

Or maybe what udflyerhoops2 meant to say is that although UD has a habit of starting out as top 25 or NCAA team, they tend to end up much closer to #144 by seasons end.

Well anyway, based on CSM's calculation/prediction of #48 and the 12 seed, that has First Four UD Arena Game written on it. Interesting, but in many ways you hope that doesn't happen, as you hope for a season leading to top 8 seed, but will take what we can get. Unless it was beating Xavier or UC in First Four Game, that would be super exciting.

	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

[ohioflyer]

UD at 48 with some very positive info. Heck with x - let's go FLYERS!!! NCAA for us and "also ran for x"

I will take this any day!!!

[Gazoo]

Last year ticks me off. That was the year. That should have been the breakout, we had the PG, the big man, the pieces were there. That was an NCAA team. . . and then there was Kav's actions.

This thread, in my opinion, should have been all about how we'll build on our success from last year's NCAA team, and how long can we hold on to Archie. (And sure that discussion would have been premature, but still fun when it happens.)

But instead, here we are again, right on the cusp, hoping to avoid a key injury, looking to finally gain traction. Wondering when we'll get our break, when the commitment will finally meet the result.

[shocka43]

This is why they play the game. To heck with rankings, 4 stars, 3 stars, 5 stars, projections, etc...

Work hard, play hard, and beat the snot out of guys on the floor.

These guys are deep...no doubt. But it is time to put it all together and use that depth to their advantage and wear teams down, run efficient offense, rebound, and toughen up on D.

[UD90]

What I enjoy the most about this preseason ranking is that our departed brethren (Everyone of them...Butler, Charlotte, Temple and Xavier) are ranked below us. Now if we execute this year could be fun.

	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	Temple TEMPLE UNIVERSITY Founded in 1884 by Dr. Russell Conwell, Temple College became Temple University in 1907. Located in Philadelphia, Temple is a comprehensive public research university with 34,000 students, 8 campuses, and 300 academic degree programs. Notable alumni include Bill Cosby and Daryl Hall. Temple's nickname is the Owls and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	Charlotte CHARLOTTE UNC Charlotte is one of a generation of universities founded in metropolitan areas of the United States immediately after World War II in response to rising education demands generated by the war and its technology. Now a research intensive university, UNC Charlotte is the fourth largest of the 16 institutions within the University of North Carolina system and the largest institution in the Charlotte region. The university comprises seven professional colleges and currently offers 18 doctoral programs, 62 master’s degree programs and 90 bachelor’s degrees. More than 900 full-time faculty comprise the university’s academic departments and the 2007 fall enrollment exceeded 22,300 students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the 49ers.

[ud2]

Originally Posted by Flyer Al http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/...l/bracketology According to their Bracketology page UD is the last at-large team to get into the tournament. I assume they think UD will win a "home game" at the First Four?

Just wondering how you arrived at that conclusion? Couldn't a team like #13 seed Belmont have been awarded an at large bid after #12 Dayton?



And the USA Today bracketology is down to the #8 seeds, but they still haven't picked an A10 team yet. I wonder if that means that they are projecting only 2 A10 teams, probably VCU and SLU, to make the tournament?

A #8 seed or better for presumably Dayton, LaSalle, or UMass seems pretty strong. According to last year's A10 results, the third place team in the A10 would have to be at least rpi #40 or better to get a #8 seed.


Last year's A10 NCAA teams:

slu rpi #16, #4 seed
vcu rpi #25, #5 seed
butler rpi #22, #6 seed
temple rpi #41, #9 seed
lasalle rpi #46, #13 seed


And I'm not sure how they are assigning the 6 #16 seeds, I only see 4 #16 seeds so far, and the 5 #11 and the 5 #13 seeds, I only see 4 of each of those so far.

http://www.usatoday.com/topic/b5c73a...all-countdown/

Seeds at the bottom of the page:

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports...regon/2840201/

	Temple TEMPLE UNIVERSITY Founded in 1884 by Dr. Russell Conwell, Temple College became Temple University in 1907. Located in Philadelphia, Temple is a comprehensive public research university with 34,000 students, 8 campuses, and 300 academic degree programs. Notable alumni include Bill Cosby and Daryl Hall. Temple's nickname is the Owls and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

	LaSalle LA SALLE In 1863, La Salle University was established through the legacy of St. John Baptist de La Salle and the Christian Brothers teaching order, which De La Salle founded 300 years ago. Located in Philadelphia, La Salle is an educational community shaped by traditional Catholic and Lasallian values. La Salle's main campus is an ideal place for students to pursue an education. The 130-acre park-like setting includes 54 buildings and is located approximately six miles from Center City Philadelphia. The University can accommodate 2,114 resident students in its 12 residence halls, two apartment complexes, and 75 townhouses. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Explorers. Notable athletes include Tom Gola and Lionel Simmons.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.

[Glen Clark]

Originally Posted by Glen Clark #91

Nailed it! (not exactly)

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[longtimefan]

Originally Posted by ud2 Just wondering how you arrived at that conclusion? Couldn't a team like #13 seed Belmont have been awarded an at-large bid after #12 Dayton?

They probably have Belmont receiving the automatic bid from their conference.

[Flyer Al]

Originally Posted by ud2 Just wondering how you arrived at that conclusion? Couldn't a team like #13 seed Belmont have been awarded an at large bid after #12 Dayton?

UD is the only team in the bracketology page that is not a #1 team from their conference which would imply they are an at large team and thus, you could argue their pick for the last team in.

[Viperstick]

Originally Posted by Flyer Al UD is the only team in the bracketology page that is not a #1 team from their conference which would imply they are an at large team and thus, you could argue their pick for the last team in.

Flyers hypothetically matched up with FSU in an opening round 12v12 tilt. Looks like UD, UC, FSU, and Team Z (I won't use the third to last letter to avoid confusion with a bunch of cheese eating surrender monkeys) are the last four in.

http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/...l/bracketology

[NorthwestFlyer]

Wow - so hypothetically, if we make it to the Elite 8, and Wright State makes it to the Elite 8, we will finally get the cross town rivalry on. I'm surprised Archdeacon hasn't written an article on it yet.

[NorthwestFlyer]

UMass is in at #40 and their first NCAA appearance in quite sometime.

	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

[San Diego Flyer]

http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/7556


Starts with Wisconsin and an interesting analysis. Talks about the experience coach is losing and reloading with a 6 player Freshman class. Then calls Wisconsin a "veteran" team. Why?

Because they have two good Senior guards and always one of the best defenses in the nation. Calls them an NCAA team. Very interesting and proven formula that has withstood the test of time. Works for them every year it seems.

#25

[San Diego Flyer]

Baylor at #24. Projected NCAA participant in 2014.

http://www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/7562




Maui site which is starting it's own previews of 2013 participants:

http://www.mauiinvitational.com/

[NorthwestFlyer]

I haven't checked this in a while. It looks like SLU dropped in at #21. Which will put VCU in the top 20, well actually top 15 since that is where they are in the ranking.

	Saint Louis SAINT LOUIS Saint Louis University is a Jesuit, Catholic university ranked among the top research institutions in the nation. The University fosters the intellectual and character development of more than 12,700 students. Founded in 1818, it is the oldest university west of the Mississippi and the second oldest Jesuit university in the United States. Located in St. Louis, MO, and just five minutes from the Gateway Arch, SLU offers 85 undergraduate programs and over 50 graduate study tracks. Over 99% of the SLU faculty hold the highest degree in their respective fields. Fellow member of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Billikens, but also commonly known as "Sloo", the phonetic pronunciation of the school's initials. Athletic claims to fame include multiple national titles in men's soccer and men's basketball star Larry Hughes.