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View Poll Results: Will he or won't he get drafted?
Yes, he has the talent and upside to offset the risk of wasting a pick 27 29.03%
No, because there are 60+ better players 32 34.41%
Yes, but only because of his name 26 27.96%
No, because his attitude and maturity are lacking 8 8.60%
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Will Kostas Antentumpkdusypemkfhuyupo get drafted?

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I voted #1, but only because I could not vote #1/3. If Lew Alcindor had a younger 6"11" brother with good promise, but underdeveloped, someone would have taken chance on him.
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Voting is open until Draft Day...June 21st.
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I voted #1, but only because I could not vote #1/3. If Lew Alcindor had a younger 6"11" brother with good promise, but underdeveloped, someone would have taken chance on him.
You’re right- and that someone likely would have been John Wooden. And he would have gone on to greatness. Had wooden coached Kostas, he would never seen another minute after his first technical for trash talking.
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Good poll. I believe 3 and 4 are incorrect answers.


If he does not get drafted it will be because there are 60+ better players. In a world where Johnny Manziel gets drafted, attitude and immaturity are not keeping someone from getting drafted. Legal troubles..maybe, but not attitude and immaturity.


If he gets drafted it will not be "solely" because his last name. If he was under 6' tall and slow it wouldn't matter what his last name was. If he gets drafted it will be because of his "talent and upside"...a big part of that upside IS his last name, but the talent part is needed to at least get in the discussion. Nobody gets drafted "solely" on last name, but it is a factor.


I voted for #2, but am hoping he gets drafted. Heck, I root for Andre Iguodala and rooted Antonio Daniels just because their brother went to UD. I will certainly root for a former UD player even if they didn't have a great career here.
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SF99, when I first typed the Poll, I only included 2 options 'Yes' and 'No' and just before I hit the 'post poll' button, I remembered how finicky, moody, entitled, curious and perfect my fans, followers, minions and wannabees can be, so I decided to break down the Yes/No options to include some basic reasoning. I darn near made 6 options of 3 Yes and 3 No, but that would have watered down the reasoning and I made the Royal decision to keep it at 4. Is it perfect? No. But I am, so I hit the 'post' button.

I have mixed feelings about Kostas getting drafted. The Flyer in me hopes he does and it helps our image/recruiting. The coach/competitor in me hopes he doesn't because it sends the message that you can have a crappy attitude, not work hard, ignore coaching and you can still reach great heights.

Had he stayed at UD for 2018-19 and then taken a shot at the NBA, he'd have 100% of my support. But I just don't like the (lack of) effort he gave UD in the short time he was here...academically and athletically.

Ultimately, I hope he makes an NBA roster at some point. I don't think he's a puck-*ss loser like #35 and the twin terrors, so I don't harbor any anger toward him. Just disappointment that he didn't give us all he had knowing both parties would have benefitted greatly from a little more focus.

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I agree completely Rollo. He has left us with the unsettling feeling of "what could have been". If he had worked hard, fully bought in to the program and coaches, and stayed 1 more year...I believe he would have been a success and one of the all-time fan favorites.
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I agree completely Rollo. He has left us with the unsettling feeling of "what could have been". If he had worked hard, fully bought in to the program and coaches, and stayed 1 more year...I believe he would have been a success and one of the all-time fan favorites.
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You know what initials are used to brand the members - K R.

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For one reason or another, 37 fans think he will be drafted. Which basically means they give him a shot.

As far as number 2, never in the history of the draft have the best 60 players been selected in the first 60 picks.
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Thanks Rollo. This is a "major award". I am almost as excited as the dad in Christmas Story was when he won the leg lamp.
You should be honored...and welcome to the 1%! I'll teach you the secret handshake later. It goes something like this...

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This analysis has him slotted at #31
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This analysis has him slotted at #31
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2...ft-projections
From the link:

"Kostas is an efficient scorer and elite shot-blocker; perhaps he'll also end up a late bloomer like his older brother, Giannis."

"late bloomer"? Giannis? He lots of things but one he's not is a 'late bloomer'! Talk about Fake News...

At 19 he averaged 6.8 pts and 4.4 rbs in the NBA!
At 19, Kostas was a redshirt at UD.

At 20, Giannis averaged 12.7 pts/6.7 rbs...
At 20, Kostas averaged 5.2 pts/2.9 rbs for UD

At 21, Giannis averaged 16.9 pts/7.7 rbs...
At 21, Kostas is TBD.

At 23, the royal late bloomer - Giannis - is arguably a Top 5 NBA talent. What G-League team will employ Kostas when he's 23 and on the verge of budding (which for the uninitiated is what happens before blooming)?


How on rollo's green earth can Giannis be considered a late bloomer?

Dennis Rodman was a late bloomer.
JJ Reddick is a late bloomer...
Kyle Korver is a late bloomer...

Kostas might become a late bloomer, and if he does it 100% won't be 'like his older brother'...

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This analysis has him slotted at #31
http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/2...ft-projections
They are giving him a 76% chance of having a role in the NBA (All-Star, Starter, Role Player).

I think I've been one of the more "pro-Kostas" folks here the last few months...and 76% seems waaaaaaaaay too high. I would have put it at 30% - 40% tops. Still worth a late round pick.

I'm not even sure 1st round picks have a 76% success rate...
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From the link:

"Kostas is an efficient scorer and elite shot-blocker;
I'm having trouble just wrapping my head around this!

Did he block shots? Yup. Elite? Unless they changed the definition...uh, not yet. He had more turnovers than blocks!

Scorer? Hmmm...5.3ppg. Perhaps since he avg'd just 15 mins/game.

And let's not forget those 3 rebs/game.
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No = 38

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Yes = 50
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Kostas' chances in the draft have never been about stats. It's about all the peripheral things that would influence a GM to take a "flyer" based on size, heritage, age and potential.

You know how I despise the word "lock", but I give Kostas a 50/50 chance this week.
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