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Old 04-12-2019, 04:57 PM
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Old 04-12-2019, 06:34 PM
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There was a rumor going around over a week ago that UD's staff had moved on from McNeil.
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There was a rumor going around over a week ago that UD's staff had moved on from McNeil.


Yeah, I heard that which doesnt make much sense to me, unless they have something else lined up potentially better? I just don't really understand that, it supposedly wasn't mcneil it was UD?

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If you say anything contrary to rosy Flyer thought you’ll get bashed. I for one am certain McNiel will come here. Just as sure as I’m devastated by the loss of Frankie, a potential Lebron James as anyone could see from his 7 baskets in just five short months. Oh, and who could forget his block or either of his offensive rebounds. A shocking hit to the program. He will always have a special place in my memory. Nothing but red and blue butterflies from me. You should do the same.
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Old 04-13-2019, 08:03 AM
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Old 04-13-2019, 09:40 AM
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A couple quick thoughts:

1. If someone has inside info, I would always prefer to hear it even if it isn't positive or affirming my thoughts;

2. If you challenge someone's info, you should expect pushback;

3. If you continually challenge the pushback, you should expect that more pushback will be coming and it will be increasingly caustic.

It's really not complicated. There are 2 regular posters on here that are borderline trolls. Otherwise, everyone else pretty much states opinions and occasionally post something they have heard. There's a whole lot of snowflaking going on in this thread.
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Old 04-13-2019, 09:47 AM
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I guess I look at it a bit differently. If I had "inside information" and I posted something regarding that information without mentioning sources, I would not get into a food fight over the situation. Whether others believe me or not is up to them, i made my post and don't need to defend it.
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Old 04-13-2019, 10:39 AM
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Apparently in Morgantown this morning


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Apparently in Morgantown this morning


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West Virginia already has 6 guards that are underclassmen on their current roster and have a commitment from 6'2" guard Miles McBride from Moeller High School in Cincinnati for 2019. They had 7 but James "Beetle" Bolden RS JR is a grad transfer and entered his name in the transfer portal. He was targeted to be the starting shooting guard for the Mountaineers next season so that probably is why they are hot after Hot Boy!
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Old 04-13-2019, 11:26 AM
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West Virginia already has 6 guards that are underclassmen on their current roster and have a commitment from 6'2" guard Miles McBride from Moeller High School in Cincinnati for 2019.
His father maybe played for Xavier? Walt McBride? That name sounds familiar.
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Old 04-13-2019, 12:07 PM
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His father maybe played for Xavier? Walt McBride? That name sounds familiar.
Yes, that’s his father. Not all that heavily recruited three-star guard. His best offers before signing with WVA were Dayton and Duquesne. Xavier and Butler gave him a sniff.
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Old 04-13-2019, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyer Al View Post
Apparently in Morgantown this morning


https://twitter.com/mtneersports/sta...43699593224198
Also reportedly in Morgantown is Tajzmel Sherman, another 6-4 shooting guard from the JUCO ranks. He may be slightly more coveted than McNeil, given his recruitment list. Maybe Huggins wants both? Regardless, my guess is McNeil signs with WVU today.
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Old 04-13-2019, 12:37 PM
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If you say anything contrary to rosy Flyer thought you’ll get bashed. I for one am certain McNiel will come here. Just as sure as I’m devastated by the loss of Frankie, a potential Lebron James as anyone could see from his 7 baskets in just five short months. Oh, and who could forget his block or either of his offensive rebounds. A shocking hit to the program. He will always have a special place in my memory. Nothing but red and blue butterflies from me. You should do the same.
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It doesn't have to be rosy, as not all times are rosy. But follow 2 simple rules 1) keep it real and 2) keep it respectful and tasteful.

Your comments re: the Davis transfer were unnecessary and crossed the line. If you follow that thread, it doesn't get incendiary until your little tirade that called him a quitter.
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West Virginia visit

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Apparently in Morgantown this morning


https://twitter.com/mtneersports/sta...43699593224198

Ok...he is on the campus of West Virginia. Don't see that as a big deal. They were one of the schools on his short list. McNeil knows the support and the passion of the Flyer Fans since he has attended several games and he knows the atmosphere that the arena generates. Will keep my fingers crossed until he makes his announcement.
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Originally Posted by Flyer Al View Post
Apparently in Morgantown this morning


https://twitter.com/mtneersports/sta...43699593224198
Which is on par for what Hot Boy said he would do - he said he was going to officially visit the schools on his list.

People seem to think because he did not pull the trigger already on UD - the train left the station - but look back at Hot Boys comments in interviews and he said he made a mistake leaving the D2 school he was at originally after one week - he felt he was too impulsive back then. I would guess he will over compensate now and take extra time before making a decision. And with UD with TWO open Scholarships - it is not like on our side he is worried on missing out.

Let him take his time and make the right choice for himself. Hopefully it will be the right choice for us as well. But I think the rumors / made up BS about the train leaving the station or un-named sources saying this or that is just all that made up BS.

We are still the closest school to his family and girlfriend - and I would guess that means quite a bit. and Yes - Flyerfan4life - I will take the $50 to $2 bet 5 times over on the condition you pay out in Maui. $10 waiting for you if you are right. But you have to collect in Maui.
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Insider information may be posted, but it also depends on where you heard it from and the nature of the information. If it's from another board, then it should not be posted here. If it's from people connected to the program, well then I guess that depends on whether you are expected to keep it private or not. Also, not all inside information should be shared on the general board. Sometimes things should really only be on PP.
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Was told from many sources he was told to move on. UD is going in different directions. .A lot of transfers out there and maybe they will hold them because if this team is as good as many are saying And been told that by many people who have seen practices and know the game. Same ones who told me about Toppin and Mikesell There will be plenty of playing time for them. Just a thought. And would not be surprised to see a transfer or two that has to sit a year if the right ones are out there. You have four knew players coming in next year plus Matos ready to play. Relax.
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Was told from many sources he was told to move on. UD is going in different directions. .A lot of transfers out there and maybe they will hold them because if this team is as good as many are saying And been told that by many people who have seen practices and know the game. Same ones who told me about Toppin and Mikesell There will be plenty of playing time for them. Just a thought. And would not be surprised to see a transfer or two that has to sit a year if the right ones are out there. You have four knew players coming in next year plus Matos ready to play. Relax.
I am going to need the first and last name, date of birth, social security number and address for all of your sources. Otherwise, never post any info on here ever again.
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as you continue to post.....
These guys wouldn’t know a basketball from a baseball if it hit them. Your source is correct. This is old news by the way. I’d also be willing to wager he doesn’t come.
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These guys wouldn’t know a basketball from a baseball if it hit them. Your source is correct. This is old news by the way. I’d also be willing to wager he doesn’t come.
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There is a 4th school laying in the weeds on McNeil. While he is down in WV he may just cross the border and visit another school.
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It's looks like West Virgina it is.
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It's looks like West Virgina it is.
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If the news / assumption to WVa is true, we need to start a new McNeil thread to explore our feelings together about losing him.
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Will be interesting to see how he does against D1 defenders. Not sure what the interest non interest was with Sean other than jones. While most agree a team needs a sharpshooter it's not a for certain thing moving up a league.

Wonder if the NCAA will adopt the 3 pt line and free throw box they tried with the NIT tourney. If they do how will that affect the parimeter shooters.

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If the news / assumption to WVa is true, we need to start a new McNeil thread to explore our feelings together about losing him.
Why, UD moved on.
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If the news / assumption to WVa is true, we need to start a new McNeil thread to explore our feelings together about losing him.
We didn't lose him. AG informed him that it was better for all concerned that we go separate ways. Which he has done, and we are not yet sure which way AG will go.
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We didn't lose him. AG informed him that it was better for all concerned that we go separate ways. Which he has done, and we are not yet sure which way AG will go.
I have no way of knowing what you say is true or not, but just about all programs, when they lose a coveted recruit, ACT like they backed off. It’s called saving face. All I really care about now is who’s up next.
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I have no way of knowing what you say is true or not, but just about all programs, when they lose a coveted recruit, ACT like they backed off. It’s called saving face. All I really care about now is who’s up next.
It’s been said multiple times in this thread that’s what happened. But your statement is so far off base it not funny
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It’s been said multiple times in this thread that’s what happened. But your statement is so far off base it not funny
Yeah, it’s been said by people who post here quoting their “sources.” Let me know when AG is quoted as saying he backed off. I only really care about who we do sign to an LOI.

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Yeah, it’s been said by people who post here quoting their “sources.” Let me know when AG says he backed off.
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Sorry that your pride plus lifetime membership didn't get you the inside information that everybody else got.
I did read the posts. Whole lot of early speculation calling him a “lock” for UD to later posts saying he wasn’t coming and speculating about us moving on, which we probably did when it became clear WVU had the inside track. But I’ll still say it’s pretty routine for schools and particularly fan bases to say they “backed off” when it becomes clear a recruit is going elsewhere.
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Please - let's close this thread.... Quite honestly, every one that has posted is really right. All of the people who reported inside info are right...all of the people that were questioning the factual basis for this inside info are right...

Personally, I think UD made a significant mistake for not signing this kid. He is the "real deal"... Time will tell.

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Sorry that your pride plus lifetime membership didn't get you the inside information that everybody else got.
It was quoted on other pay sites to And yes AG told him to move on .Why does coach Grant need to announce it to the fan base. Smart coaches don't air things in public.
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The fly you do realize that coaches can't talk about recruits till the recruit signs the LOI. All the sources you and others we seeking we behind private servers. Pony up and you too can get inside info. UDPRIDE and flyerhoops both provide indepth coverage of inside info of all aspects of flyer athletics. It's not sour grapes, we don't know what transpired between AG and McNeil and most likely never will.

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The fly you do realize that coaches can't talk about recruits till the recruit signs the LOI. All the sources you and others we seeking we behind private servers. Pony up and you too can get inside info. UDPRIDE and flyerhoops both provide indepth coverage of inside info of all aspects of flyer athletics. It's not sour grapes, we don't know what transpired between AG and McNeil and most likely never will.

Here's hoping AG has a couple good recruits coming in. We gave depth at all positions for next year. Trust AG he's done fairly well recruiting so far.

BTW the source behind these pay walls was Mr. Ed himself.
Pony up? I’ve been with Chris from day one on this site, including Plus. Helped him name it Pride Plus, in fact. And yes, I know AG can’t discuss recruits until they sign on the dotted line. I’ve ... uh, been around a long time.

I have no beef with you Avid, and no reason to deny insider knowledge. But I prefer dealing in facts and always will.

I feel better knowing a horse, of course, was the one spilling the beans. :-)
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Pony up? I’ve been with Chris from day one on this site, including Plus. Helped him name it Pride Plus, in fact. And yes, I know AG can’t discuss recruits until they sign on the dotted line. I’ve ... uh, been around a long time.

I have no beef with you Avid, and no reason to deny insider knowledge. But I prefer dealing in facts and always will.

I feel better knowing a horse, of course, was the one spilling the beans. :-)
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If AG told him to move on, and I have no reason to believe he didn't, then AG must have some bigger fish near the hook. I hope we hear something soon.
Do you think, Maybe coach Grant knows what he has next year and it might be difficult to giving all these players playing time they deserve. Maybe he will keep the two grants open, or go after two transfers that will have to sit a year and learn the system and even the classes out. I have confidence coach knows what he is doing and by my count he will have eleven healthy bodies that by all accounts can play. That will work.
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Could be worse. At least we aren't Nevada. They currently have one player confirmed to be on their roster for the start of next season. The rest of their roster includes 6 players in the transfer portal, 2 that have been asked to be released from their LOI, a 5th year that could grad transfer, and a walk-on that joined the team at semester last season.
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Please - let's close this thread.... Quite honestly, every one that has posted is really right. All of the people who reported inside info are right...all of the people that were questioning the factual basis for this inside info are right...

Personally, I think UD made a significant mistake for not signing this kid. He is the "real deal"... Time will tell.
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Could be worse. At least we aren't Nevada. They currently have one player confirmed to be on their roster for the start of next season. The rest of their roster includes 6 players in the transfer portal, 2 that have been asked to be released from their LOI, a 5th year that could grad transfer, and a walk-on that joined the team at semester last season.
Sounds like Alford has inherited a mell of a hess at Nevada. I hope, for his sake, that the fan base is willing to give him a few years to reconstruct the program his way. You know - like good fan bases do.
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If AG moved on without it being mutual, there are several possible reasons:

1. AG sensed a lack of true consideration once the bigger programs came calling and sensed we were still in the hunt only as the fall back school.

2. There is an issue that make AG uncomfortable from a disciplinary or academic standpoint.

3. AG has recruited over him and a signing in forthcoming.

4. AG does not believe in the kid's ability to make the jump.

If the kid can help, I can't see AG pulling an offer because we are too loaded or is worried about playing time next year. Unless we are packing Final Four talent, that would be really short sighted.

I DO NOT have any inside sources. If I had to bet, it would be on number 1. I think there would have been rumors about number 2, number 3 isn't logical without a signature, and the level of interest probably negates number 4.
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Without looking, I would think all the discussion about Adreian Payne would have to be up there.
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That's how it works. Many of the big programs also don't want to show that they offered as well, until they know the recruit will accept. It's a game that UD can't play. We are not in that lane.
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I personally couldn’t embrace a recruit called “Hot Boy” it is so wrong it’s like reverse racial profilings.

Huggy Bear has a history of seeing who Dayton is recruiting and then goes after them, reducing his recruiting budget allowing for more Big Mac’s.
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If AG moved on without it being mutual, there are several possible reasons:

1. AG sensed a lack of true consideration once the bigger programs came calling and sensed we were still in the hunt only as the fall back school.

2. There is an issue that make AG uncomfortable from a disciplinary or academic standpoint.

3. AG has recruited over him and a signing in forthcoming.

4. AG does not believe in the kid's ability to make the jump.

If the kid can help, I can't see AG pulling an offer because we are too loaded or is worried about playing time next year. Unless we are packing Final Four talent, that would be really short sighted.

I DO NOT have any inside sources. If I had to bet, it would be on number 1. I think there would have been rumors about number 2, number 3 isn't logical without a signature, and the level of interest probably negates number 4.

There are quite a few other possible reasons, though that does not make them probable.

One example I could think of would be that AG found out he had accepted $$ from someone, and AG doesn't want someone like that anywhere near our program. I am not in any way saying that's happened, but it's another possible reason.
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Originally Posted by Gazoo View Post
There are quite a few other possible reasons, though that does not make them probable.

One example I could think of would be that AG found out he had accepted $$ from someone, and AG doesn't want someone like that anywhere near our program. I am not in any way saying that's happened, but it's another possible reason.
This is how fake news starts:
Scenario: Recruit A has been offered and has accepted a full scolly to U of Z.
Reporter at Fake News Sports Desk: "Reliable sources are saying that "A" may have been lured by UZ with some cash. We'll get back to you with updates as things develop."
Subscriber of Fake News: "Now that really stinks! When are these kids going to learn not to get suckered in with cash on the side?"
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if ag moved on without it being mutual, there are several possible reasons:

1. Ag sensed a lack of true consideration once the bigger programs came calling and sensed we were still in the hunt only as the fall back school.

2. There is an issue that make ag uncomfortable from a disciplinary or academic standpoint.

3. Ag has recruited over him and a signing in forthcoming.

4. Ag does not believe in the kid's ability to make the jump.

If the kid can help, i can't see ag pulling an offer because we are too loaded or is worried about playing time next year. Unless we are packing final four talent, that would be really short sighted.

I do not have any inside sources. If i had to bet, it would be on number 1. I think there would have been rumors about number 2, number 3 isn't logical without a signature, and the level of interest probably negates number 4.
will say one word staten take it from there.
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I think of recruiting as a business decision ... risk vs reward.

It is very easy to see the risk of him coming (the coaches have even more info than you and I).

There may not be anything wrong with him ... just the reward wasn't big enough for the risk.

So AG moved on. No harm on either side.
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Originally Posted by DGO67 View Post
This is how fake news starts:
Scenario: Recruit A has been offered and has accepted a full scolly to U of Z.
Reporter at Fake News Sports Desk: "Reliable sources are saying that "A" may have been lured by UZ with some cash. We'll get back to you with updates as things develop."
Subscriber of Fake News: "Now that really stinks! When are these kids going to learn not to get suckered in with cash on the side?"

Message board posts from NON-reporters who clearly state it's nothing but a hypothetical is NOT how fake news starts.



However, people who make exaggerated claims that have no bearing on the reality of what other people said. . . now that will start some fake news.


Scenario: there have now been 3 comments from sources while on the topic of Recruit A that are starting to link Recruit A to cash payments.


Make sure to tell bucketnight that he's besmirching the kid's name for saying that the kid has disciplinary and academic issues. That's how fake news starts, you know.
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I think of recruiting as a business decision ... risk vs reward.

It is very easy to see the risk of him coming (the coaches have even more info than you and I).

There may not be anything wrong with him ... just the reward wasn't big enough for the risk.

So AG moved on. No harm on either side.
Almost all of recruiting is about comfort and relationships but when you're a program like UD in a non power 5 conference you're competing against big-time basketball regarding the number of national TV games, playing in much better road arenas and atmospheres, a very well-known coach and better competition....That's rather enticing to alot of kids who have that type of opportunity.
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What is the record for the longest thread about a player that didn't come to UD?

That's an unfair question. Most of the posts in this thread have nothing to do with the player!
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Originally Posted by Gazoo View Post
There are quite a few other possible reasons, though that does not make them probable.

One example I could think of would be that AG found out he had accepted $$ from someone, and AG doesn't want someone like that anywhere near our program. I am not in any way saying that's happened, but it's another possible reason.
He could also be in ISIS or an axe murderer. Thanks for opening our eyes!
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What is the record for the longest thread about a player that didn't come to UD?
Not even close yet. McKinnley Wright, 611 posts. It got downright painful. Longest I remember but I'm not sure if it is the world record.
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I guess I'll be the second to wish the kid good luck...

I hope he gets everything he's looking for. And, looking at Rollo's pictures, I hope he can handle it!

We got a kid from WV that I think will suit us fine over the next several years. I'm more concerned about the ones we have instead of the ones we don't.

I suspect AG has a pretty good plan for the upcoming season. Two more transfers or eating one this year to have 3 (or 4 depending on Obi) for next year would help balance some classes. I still would like to see a knock down shooter next year but I think the 11 currently on the roster will be solid.
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If we were in the Big East, would McNeil be coming to UD?
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Honest question...

If we were in the Big East, would McNeil be coming to UD?
He would have been at Dayton if they didnt decide otherwise
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He would have been at Dayton if they didn't decide otherwise
You had me convinced all along, but the above comment is an emphatic twist. I hope somewhere along the way the reasons surface since it was entirely our call.

In any case, good luck to him in the future.
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For those in-the-know on UD turning the page on McNeil...

More to do with McNeil or more to do with someone else they expect to land soon?
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For those in-the-know on UD turning the page on McNeil...

More to do with McNeil or more to do with someone else they expect to land soon?
Maybe one of yes, but definitely not neither or both.
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If it were McNeil choosing elsewhere, would it not make sense for UD to make it appear otherwise?
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I guess I'll be the second to wish the kid good luck...

I hope he gets everything he's looking for. And, looking at Rollo's pictures, I hope he can handle it!

We got a kid from WV that I think will suit us fine over the next several years. I'm more concerned about the ones we have instead of the ones we don't.

I suspect AG has a pretty good plan for the upcoming season. Two more transfers or eating one this year to have 3 (or 4 depending on Obi) for next year would help balance some classes. I still would like to see a knock down shooter next year but I think the 11 currently on the roster will be solid.
I completely agree with this

Would I like to a good player this year? Sure, but I think there's a bigger long term roster planning issue at play here as Springboro alludes to

Banking both of the open scholarships for next year could help get a couple transfers to plug in withhen the 5 upcoming juniors graduate.

Assuming Dayton has a big year next year and the possibility of getting major minutes day one could open up some better transfer options then what AG could get this year
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I completely agree with this

Would I like to a good player this year? Sure, but I think there's a bigger long term roster planning issue at play here as Springboro alludes to

Banking both of the open scholarships for next year could help get a couple transfers to plug in withhen the 5 upcoming juniors graduate.

Assuming Dayton has a big year next year and the possibility of getting major minutes day one could open up some better transfer options then what AG could get this year
Fair assessment. Class balance next year, based on the current roster, is as follows:
Seniors - Mikesell and Landers (both Forwards)
Juniors - Tsimanga (C), Matos (F-G), Watson (F-G), Crutcher (G), and Chatman (G)
Sophomores - Toppin (F-C), Johnson (F), and Cohill (G)
Freshman - Sissoko (C)

And I know what people say about class balance not being worth diddly, but programs like ours thrive on having guys who know how to play together. To anticipate the movement of your teammates, and to know “who” likes to get the ball “where”. Having some semblance of class balance helps to foster that kind of continuity.

That said, unless there’s a shooter available who would serve as a good complement to our current roster, I agree that we should just bank the ‘ships at this point, look to sign 2 or 3 frosh for next year, and then split the next class up between frosh, jucos, and other transfers. That way, we can get away from total rebuilds every few years.
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I thought Johnson comes in next December as a Freshman.
Soph, he redshirted his first year at Florida.
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I'm surprised how many people are sleeping on Cohill
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Wow look at that. DDN article says same thing you all been *****ing about as fake news. Guess the sources were right. You’re welcome
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There was a 2 in 3 chance he was going elsewhere
Guessing right doesn't mean someone had sources
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I'm surprised how many people are sleeping on Cohill
Meaning??? You think Cohill might be leaving? Or they are underestimating his impact to next year's team?
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Meaning??? You think Cohill might be leaving? Or they are underestimating his impact to next year's team?
To look at the McNeil stuff you'd almost forget there's a sophomore guard on the team who was a 2,000 point scorer and one of the most highly rated recruits in years
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There was a 2 in 3 chance he was going elsewhere
Guessing right doesn't mean someone had sources
How does this even relate to the discussion or the article?
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To look at the McNeil stuff you'd almost forget there's a sophomore guard on the team who was a 2,000 point scorer and one of the most highly rated recruits in years
Are you talking about the guy who had a team high +12.97 +/- rating per 40 minutes played? 3 1/2 points per game better than Ryan Mikesell who was second best on the team. Thanks to Figgie for the above numbers.
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I don't think anybody is sleeping on Cohill as a very good basketball player. What I am worried about is his ability to shoot the open 3 as his form is absolutely terrible and does not lead to consistency. his biggest strength is taking the ball to the hoop and you can bet your ass that defenders are not going to allow him to do that if his outside shot does not improve. That is yet to be seen naturally but his form is not good at all.
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I don't think anybody is sleeping on Cohill as a very good basketball player. What I am worried about is his ability to shoot the open 3 as his form is absolutely terrible and does not lead to consistency. his biggest strength is taking the ball to the hoop and you can bet your ass that defenders are not going to allow him to do that if his outside shot does not improve. That is yet to be seen naturally but his form is not good at all.
Hopefully, that's something he can improve upon with hard work and coaching. I'm not sure he'll ever be a guy you want taking 5+ threes a game but I'm hoping he can develop like Kyle Davis where if you leave him open, he can make it

He's the guy I'm most excited to see what kind of leap he can make next with a year of experience
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On next year’s team, Dwayne doesn’t have to be a big scorer. With Crutcher, Mikesell, Watson, Chatman, Obi and Johnson we will have more than enough offensive firepower. He just needs to continue to play tough D and play smart. If he gives us 5 points per game that would be great.
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On next year’s team, Dwayne doesn’t have to be a big scorer. With Crutcher, Mikesell, Watson, Chatman, Obi and Johnson we will have more than enough offensive firepower. He just needs to continue to play tough D and play smart. If he gives us 5 points per game that would be great.
I don't think he'll have to be the go to guy or secondary option on offense but I'd be shocked if he didn't make a big leap in his offensive game
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But frankly, TA111, a good two-guard must be able to hit at least 30% from the three. If not, he becomes an offensive liability...more reason for a team to pack it in on defense.
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I think Cohill will improve his offense, but he's got to get an outside shot. You just can't take it to the bucket every time.
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