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Old 12-20-2011, 09:43 AM
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Seton Hall Game Thread

Time for the 2nd Premier OOC Home Game... Let's Get It!

Seton Hall is playing very well right now (9-1)... Herb Pope has been sensational (Career Year)... One good thing for us is they have not played a true road game yet (they played in a 3-game tourney this year)

Must bring our "A" game and continue the good start to the Archie Miller era.

Priority #1: works as a team to contain Herb Pope, especially on the boards

Hopefully Luke and especially CJ can play!

Let's do it boys and get our 4th BCS Scalp so far!

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Originally Posted by lhsgolf19 View Post
Time for the 2nd Premier OOC Home Game... Let's Get It!

Seton Hall is playing very well right now (9-1)... Herb Pope has been sensational (Career Year)... One good thing for us is they have not played a true road game yet (they played in a 3-game tourney this year)

Must bring our game and continue the good start to the Archie Miller era.

Priority #1: works as a team to contain Herb Pope, especially on the boards

Hopefully Luke and especially CJ can play!

Let's do it boys and get our 4th BCS Scalp so far!
We need usual games from Dillard, and good games from one of our bigs and either P willie, Josh Parker and Benson. Somebody bring it and bring it consistently.

Gonna need all 8 or 9 guys to contribute.
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A preview from a seton hall rivals site:

http://setonhall.rivals.com/showmsg....id=959&style=2

A decent review, but the guy responding (4th I think) who has seen UD 3 times I think gets it right. UD has been so inconsistant that going simply off of palm's stat sheets does't do this team justice. It all depends on which offense shows up, the one that attacks inside out and moves the ball freely, or the one that stalls on the perimeter for 25 seconds of each play clock?

Either way, I'm looking forward to it. I'm begining to think Seton Hall will be a middle of the pack or better Big East team, rather than a bottom 1/3 big east team as I thought they would be when the season started. Would make for a nice scalp over a team that might be on the bubble with UD come selection sunday. A lot of work to do for both teams before now and then; this is a game UD could really use to help keep the momentum gained in the Alabama games. Hopefully CJ & Luke are healthy.
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We need usual games from Dillard, and good games from one of our bigs and either P willie, Josh Parker and Benson. Somebody bring it and bring it consistently.

Gonna need all 8 or 9 guys to contribute.
We're definitely going to need Benson to play big tonight. Resonating the initial post Pope is a beast on the boards and in the post....hes the leader of the big east in points AND rebounds 22.1 points and 11.8 rebs

interesting story about pope though...i went to the rock last year to see the game last year between ud and shu. my dad's a shu alumni so we sat behind the shu bench. Charles Smith from the knicks, who's taking masters classes there, was sitting in front of us and he was explaining to us how he's been a mentor for pope since high school. it was a nice story

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Doug Harris' DDN preview article has Josh Parker starting, not CJ. I hope CJ can go. Could be another chance for Devin Oliver to step up though. He has made some nice plays over the last couple games.
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Links to a couple DDN articles are below with comments on the Seton Hall game and their best player, Pope. As others here said, Pope is a beast. Doug Harris thinks he is probably the best player in the Big East. In addition to leading the league in points and rebounds, he currently leads the nation in double doubles with 8.

Pope a challenge for foul-prone Flyers:

http://www.daytondailynews.com/dayto...s-1302140.html


Flyers to play Seton Hall:

Seton Hall is rated 7th nationally in the RPI standings going into Tuesday’s game (UD is 22nd).

http://www.daytondailynews.com/dayto...l-1302203.html
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Pope is going to be a handful but so is Fuquan (sp?)...I think this will be a big game for Devon Oliver, esp if CJ is still gimpy.

I like DO's skills, and his head for the game, but he tends to be a little weak finishing at the rim. I'd love to see him put a lock on Fuquon and to grab some big rebounds if Archie gives him big minutes.
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so far seems pretty good...except no more dumb fouls, matt! hitting the boards pretty hard.
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Still way too many baseline views for me to follow. Also, the in-game replays force us to miss too much game action. We just missed Benson's foul. I will send them another email with specific references.
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Chris Johnson looks lost out there...he's a senior and should be dominating.
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Very glad to see CJ with 6. We need him this game.
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Wish I could see this. The video is breaking up but I am in a hotel. Hope it is better for others. Limited to radio now.
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Sounds like a team that's already on Christmas vacation.
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Sounds like a team that's already on Christmas vacation.
kiefaber ur late lol

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What video are you watching? I didn't think there was a TV feed tonight
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always love the off air commentary from Bucky and Larry. They are dead on. Within 3 not playing very well. Need Dillard to pick it up.
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What video are you watching? I didn't think there was a TV feed tonight
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Most teams win if they continue to shoot 64% and 71%. It's a miracle we are this close. Part of it is our defense, but the bigger part is they are shooting lights out.

We are playing well enough to win if SH just comes back down to earth with their shooting. Of course we have to hit some fts.
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1-6 from the FT line? WTF

Still, have more confidence that Archie will find a way to get his players to play harder and with more intensity in the 2nd half than BG might have
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Most teams win if they continue to shoot 64% and 71%. It's a miracle we are this close. Part of it is our defense, but the bigger part is they are shooting lights out.

We are playing well enough to win if SH just comes back down to earth with their shooting.
exactly. We're playing awful, they're playing lights out. Hopefully we balance that out and pull out the W. C'mon Archie, get em going!
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1-6 from the FT line? WTF

Still, have more confidence that Archie will find a way to get his players to play harder and with more intensity in the 2nd half than BG might have
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I've only caught the 2nd half, but our defense is sad. From Dillard to Kavs to CJ, just pathetic.
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We need to make some stops. I didn't watch the first half but so far this half our perimeter defense is non-existent right now.
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Hard to watch the video. Still haven't figured outr the camera angles.
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What the phuck is with this team and FT shooting?
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We can't win this game without playing defense. Even pretending to play defense will be better than what we are doing now.
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Welcome back CJ! Big 3... UD down 1

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1 pt game. Benson and CJ.
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I am excited. Want this game. UD ties it.

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What's with Oliver shooting?
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WHY is Oliver shooting 3's??? He is NOT a good 3 pt. shooter!!!
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Losing their poise
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bad shot selection...coupled with turnovers..bad recipe
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Dev: No three-point shots please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Great effort to get back into the game and then it all falls apart
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Dev: No three-point shots please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not sure he should shoot anything outside of a dunk
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no idea why the 3's either...we're in the bonus, attack the rim
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"Freedom" bites us in the butt. All we've read is how these guys are now "free" to shoot or "free" to handle the ball on fast breaks. Oliver takes two 3's when we really need a hoop. Bad news. Then, CJ tries to lead a fast break. Bad news. "Freedom" isn't always great.
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Really bad stretch. Archie needs to have a good, long chat with Oliver. Those were very, very costly mistakes. He is not a 3-point shooter. He shouldn't even be set outside the arc!
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Games on the line and they can't shoot the 3 ball worth a shizit
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Live by the 3...die by the 3.
down 3 and they're 15-22 from the FT line--where have we seen this before
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Hey Devin....know your role!
Are we sure Devin's role has been defined for him? That's up to the coaches.
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A game that they never should have lost
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What can you do... didn't shoot the ball well at any level (FG,3,FT)... Oh well, regroup, they have a game on Friday
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This one was not meant to be. We had plenty of chances to take it and just couldn't get over the hump.
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If Devin can't play the 4 spot, then I'm sorry, he needs to sit. He is an offensive liability sitting out there on the wing.
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I dug out some of my old Tivo games from 2-3 years ago the other night. Under Archie our offense has improved a bit, but the defense.......NOT EVEN CLOSE.
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PW, JP and KD combined 2 - 11 from beyond the arc. Ouch.
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So who then? Not a lot of choices. PW was 1-5 tonight.
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I dug out some of my old Tivo games from 2-3 years ago the other night. Under Archie our offense has improved a bit, but the defense.......NOT EVEN CLOSE.
Not much D talent, not even close.
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tonight reminded me of last year ... a big dose of stupid (first time I have felt like that this year)
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I'm still scratching my head why the refs informed Seton Hall that they had 6 guys on the court, rather than let them inbounds and call a technical on them. I was furious.
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Bad bad defense tonight. they were driving at will and shooting three's with little in their face.

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Originally Posted by Figgie123 View Post
I'm still scratching my head why the refs informed Seton Hall that they had 6 guys on the court, rather than let them inbounds and call a technical on them. I was furious.
Part of a refs job is to avoid problems...it's why they tell the inbounding player it's a 'spot' throw-in as opposed to where they can run the baseline...same thing with 'hands-off', 'keep moving', etc....

It keeps the flow going....good refs do it.
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