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comparing NBA rookies from Ohio
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tOSU's Sullinger is averaging 16.9 minutes and 3.4 ppg for Boston.
Roberts is averaging 12.7 minutes and 6.0 ppg.
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I saw a graphic on the screen when he was shooting foul shots at the 8:30 mark. I must have read it wrong. I tried to delete the post after I looked up the stats on espn.com. Apparently your viewing prowess is much quicker than my deletion skills!
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no worries. i got all happy as i had just looked and he like 3 points.
And turns out he was 7 for 8 the other day.
NO made a run at the end. AS they were down roughly 8-12 most of third quarter into fourth. That Harden, wow, much better than i thought he'd be!
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Most nights I think BRob is going to be overmatched to treading water against starting point guards in the NBA. He seems to shine best when he's on the court with Vasquez (sp) or Rivers simultaneously, whether he's playing the SG or PG spot. He's got to dribble less, and rotate the ball quicker. When he's shooting in rhthym he's the same guy as he's always been, which is to say deadly accurate. He hit a huge three last night to bring the Hornets to within 5 (possibly 3) with about 5 to go, and then got subbed out and didn't see the floor the rest of the way. Not sure why, matchups is my guess. Overall he's a guy that I think many teams would find useful, and he's going to gain understanding and confidence as he goes!
Overall - way to represent!
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Here are couple of espn insider links about Roberts.
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/playe...nkings/_/set/1
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story...arly-surprises
for those who aren't insiders here is David Thorpe's write up.
"He always looked like an NBA player to me, gifted with speed, toughness and an excellent shot. It has taken awhile, but his time in Europe has only helped polish his game and he has taken advantage of his preseason and regular-season minutes in New Orleans.
Roberts can beat most defenders off the dribble, but has learned not to overpenetrate much and instead pull up for the midrange jumper or floater. Austin Rivers, when healthy, will have a tough time taking minutes from the very tough-minded player from Dayton."
He has become the 16th ranked rookie in the NBA ahead of Miller and Rivers, 2 of the Hornets draft picks. After his 16pt 8 ast game he had the best PER of any rookie in the league playing meaningful minutes, don't know if thats still true.
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Tonight vs Oklahoma Thunder:
22 min
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this bodes real well for Brian.
Getting more minutes.
Hooking up his teammates with regular assists
steals now
some points of his own
I believe his shooting pct will improve by 1/3 of the season. Just needs to get and take shots where he wants them, and find comfort zone.
good news!
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At the half - 8 points on 3-4 shooting plus 2-2 FT plus 4 dimes 2 TOs and 2 PFs.
He's making it hard for the Hornets to keep him off the floor.
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Rewarded with a minute of PT in the 3rd and 4th.
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At some point winning has to be more important than getting Austin Rivers playing time right?
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You almost have to wonder if the coach is being told by senior management "knock it off, you're making us look bad!" If the cheap player keeps outperforming the multi-million-$ player, it almost looks like they can't identify talent.
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You almost have to wonder if the coach is being told by senior management "knock it off, you're making us look bad!" If the cheap player keeps outperforming the multi-million-$ player, it almost looks like they can't identify talent.
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It just sucks that since Rivers is only 20 years old that he has plenty of upside, so he is gonna get a lot of minutes in hopes that he develops into the player they want him to. If both players were 26, I think BRob would be getting at least 5 more minutes a game than him.
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Carmelo's on fire for the Knicks...he scores 19 in the first qtr while NO scores 17. Roberts played 1 minute and has a -8...Are the Knicks for real?
And then Brian rattles off 9 pts (3/3 on 3's) in about 5 minutes to start the 2nd...
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Brian Roberts, PG 21 4-9 3-4 2-2 0 1 1 2 0 0 1 1 -3 13pts
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Does anyone know if there are any basketball cards of Brian Roberts?
I haven't collected in many years. Do they only make the starters? Would they not make a card for him until next year? Any info would be appreciated.
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Nov 21, 2012 Hornets/Pacers
B-Rob scored six points on 3/6 shooting in 13:54 min playing time as the Hornets lost to the Pacers 115-107 in overtime. The Hornets were a team-best +5 with B-Rob on the court (tied w/J. Smith).
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Does anyone know if there are any basketball cards of Brian Roberts?
I haven't collected in many years. Do they only make the starters? Would they not make a card for him until next year? Any info would be appreciated.
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As for this years cards no Roberts does not have a card to my knowledge. Usually players who are rookies only get cards if they get drafted in the first round. I would imagine next year that Roberts might get a card if he continues to see the floor. Typcially 7-8 players are given cards plus the draft pick for each team.
You might want to check ebay though. Teams may do a SGA event that might pop up on ebay that includes the team sets.
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Interesting link I just found. It looks like Roberts is helping in the community down in NO.
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It looks like Brian enjoyed his time at the school. He is a class guy! I have to give kudos to his parents.
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Not sure if this has been posted - I don't think I have seen it before.
Pretty cool. (apologize if it had been posted)
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I just saw brob have an assist and back to back buckets in about a min against Denver. he looks so confident out there with the big boys and he's always calling for the ball to run the o
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With about 4 minutes to go in the game BRob is the Hornet's leading scorer with 17 points. He is 7-11 from the floor with 4 assists in 20 minutes.
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BRob was great tonight. Led the Hornets in scoring with 17. Final numbers were 7-12, 5 assist and 0 TOs. +5 Player Efficiency Rating.
Good for him. Did notice that Rivers didnt start, Roger Mason Jr did. I mean Mason only played 15 minutes compared to BRobs 23 and Rivers 33, so the starter tag is just that, a tag. I feel like the Hornets like the role that Roberts is in right now, and dont want to force too much on him. Cause let's be honest here. They didnt bring in Roberts to be a leading scorer. They brought him in to be an efficient player off the bench and someone they can trust the ball with and score here and there. They may have gotten that and more...
Though he had a great outing today, on Friday he played 10 minutes, with 2 TOs 0 Assists and 0 pts on 0-4 shooting. Just hoping he can keep those outings to a minimum, and hopefully eliminate them all together.
BTW: Did anyone notice that Kosta Koufus started for the Nuggets tonight. Didn't realize that crust bucket was still in the league.
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BRob was great tonight. Led the Hornets in scoring with 17. Final numbers were 7-12, 5 assist and 0 TOs. +5 Player Efficiency Rating.
Good for him. Did notice that Rivers didnt start, Roger Mason Jr did. I mean Mason only played 15 minutes compared to BRobs 23 and Rivers 33, so the starter tag is just that, a tag. I feel like the Hornets like the role that Roberts is in right now, and dont want to force too much on him. Cause let's be honest here. They didnt bring in Roberts to be a leading scorer. They brought him in to be an efficient player off the bench and someone they can trust the ball with and score here and there. They may have gotten that and more...
Though he had a great outing today, on Friday he played 10 minutes, with 2 TOs 0 Assists and 0 pts on 0-4 shooting. Just hoping he can keep those outings to a minimum, and hopefully eliminate them all together.
BTW: Did anyone notice that Kosta Koufus started for the Nuggets tonight. Didn't realize that crust bucket was still in the league.
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Kosta is the starting center for the Nuggets. He is a solid, hard knosed player that does the little things that pleases the head coach. (sound familiar? cough...cough..Kurt Huelsman)
The Hornets are an awful, awful team. Austin Rivers, while he has some talent, he doesn't quite know what to do with that talent at this point. He looks like he is severely lacking in confidence, especially with his shot. He's too small to be a 2-guard, so at some point he'll need to learn to be a pg. I know I'm biased, but Brian brings so much more to the table than Vasquez. Vasquez is bigger, but that is about it. He was completely overmatched by a shut down defender in Andre Iguodala. The Hornets were a much better team with Brian on the court. I noticed Andre Miller posted up Brian every chance he got. Andre is one of the best post-up guards to ever play the game, and even though Brian was giving up a good 15-20 lbs to Andre, he held his own. The Hornets did though have to double down on him, which opened up some shots for the Nuggets.
Brian is here to stay in The League. I just hope he can find himself contributing to some better teams in the near future. The Hornets are horrific.
BTW...BRob shoots the technical FT when he's on the floor.
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Brian sure has earned the opportunity he has and he is so easy to root for in the NBA (which I can also say for all the other Flyers too).
But the concern is that Brian will always have to prove himself in preseason. Then the grind of an 82 game season plus travel is pure torture. I predict the Hornets will win less than 20 games this season, but what about a year if they make the playoffs? Add 4 to 20 more games. I just pray that he is built for it, but I doubt that he is.
On the other hand, he is showing that sans serious injury, he can make a good living as a dependable predictable first guard off the bench playing 15 to 20 minutes a game. Good stuff.
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So I haven't watched any of Brian's games - but is he getting torched on defense or something? 5 points in 6 minutes this game, but they're keeping him on the bench. I don't get it.
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So I haven't watched any of Brian's games - but is he getting torched on defense or something? 5 points in 6 minutes this game, but they're keeping him on the bench. I don't get it.
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I mean he is not the biggest or most athletic player out there, we all know this. The players he is really battling for PT right now are Vasquez and Rivers, and then Gordon when he gets healthy. Roger Mason Jr is also getting more PT now than he has since he was a regular starter in 08-09 for the Spurs, which makes little sense since he is the definition of "journey man" playing for 7 teams in 8 years.
When healthy he will be battling 3 first round picks and a 2nd round pick journey man for PT. The 3 first rounders are all young, so the team is still getting a feel for what they have I'm sure. They all have a lot more upside than Roberts, that's why I feel he is getting the shaft.
That said, he had another solid night tonight on 4-5 shooting 1-1 from 3, with 9 pts 1 rebound, 2 assists, and 2 TOs, all in only 11 minutes of PT. This against a guard loaded team in the Clippers. They have some very quick guards in Bledsoe, Paul, and Crawford. Feel like this is why he only got 11 minutes, since he is probably more of a liability defensively against the quicker guards on defense than an asset on offense. Though it's hard to argue 4-5 shooting.
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Brob is making the best of his chances. He could be traded during this season to a contender in dire need of a point guard. It happens every year that someone goes out and needs help for the playoffs or to get into the playoffs
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I was thinking the same thing, if he keeps doing well they will trade him by the end of the season for another draft pick. I personally feel like he won't end his season on this team. I just hope he doesn't get traded to some team that only wants insurance, so he ends up sitting on the bench for the last month of the season.
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After this year or even later this season I could see B Rob getting bounced to another team with all the depth and talent that will be at the guard spots in New Orleans when Gordon gets healthy. But that's fine because every year there are many NBA teams with serious depth issues. I know right now the Cav's would love to have a decent scorer come off the bench at either guard spot, so I think that B Rob is here to stay in the NBA.
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Seems he has skills similar to John Paxson. Would love to see him land on a needy contender this season.
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Rookie Ladder
http://www.nba.com/rookie-ladder/
This website gives weekly updates of the Top 10 NBA rookies. Roberts isn't in this week's Top 10, but he's in the next 5.
FWIW, Rivers just dropped out of the Top 10 but is still listed in the next 5, along with Sullinger.
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Robert's solid in Hornet win over Milwaukee. Solid shooting for 10 points, 1 block, 1 steal, 5 assists, no turnovers in 20 minutes of action:
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And Rivers 0-5 and no points in the same number of minutes.
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He's starting to string em together now boys.
In his last five he has scored 10, 8, 11, 9, 17
Has had a total of 14 assists and 5 TOs.
Shooting .590 from the floor. Unfortunately only .286 from downtown.
He is making himself a nice little role player, and he has definitely outperformed Rivers thus far.
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Is he competing with Rivers for PT? Seems like Roberts is backing up Greivis while Rivers is a SG. But that's just from box scores - I'm not watching the games.
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BRob had a couple of nice floaters in garbage time, and seemed to be playing better defense. Of course, this is the Bucks we're talking about, but those are teams NOLA should beat.
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Is he competing with Rivers for PT? Seems like Roberts is backing up Greivis while Rivers is a SG. But that's just from box scores - I'm not watching the games.
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Their coach has been on record as saying they want to groom Rivers to play point. Don't know if that's because they have figured out he can't shoot. Or if they don't know what to do with him and just threw him a bone instead of throwing him under the bus (which would be warranted the way he has played so far).
Note: Roberts is down in 3pt %, but 18/19 from the ft line--92%.
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FWIW, Brian is currently 11th in scoring amongst all rookies and 6th in assists despite playing significantly less minutes than all of the players above him.
Its going to be a long shot, and I don't even know if they still have the rookie-soph game during all star weekend, but I'm begining to wonder if BRob could make that event? Certainly most of those spots go to players based upon reputation more than substance, and Brian has no reputation to speak of amongst the average NBA fan. He'll need to get more playing time to help him increase that scoring average to even have a shot, and considering the amount they have invested in Rivers, they're going to let Rivers prove that he can't play before they give more time to Brian to prove that he can play.
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http://www.nba.com/rookie-ladder/
This website gives weekly updates of the Top 10 NBA rookies. Roberts isn't in this week's Top 10, but he's in the next 5.
FWIW, Rivers just dropped out of the Top 10 but is still listed in the next 5, along with Sullinger.
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Didn't make the cut this week either, but he's 1 of 3 listed outside the top 10...interesting (but not surprising) that Rivers and Sullinger are no longer listed.
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They need to bring the Jazz back to New Orleans.
Here is an idea, Charlotte, New Orleans and Utah need to make a three-way trade. Charlotte goes back to the Charlotte Hornets, New Orleans back to the New Orleans Jazz and Utah becomes the Utah Bobcats. Once this is done, all will be right with the world.
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Ouch! Brian was 0-6 from the field in tonight's loss to the Lakers. Two assists with no turnovers in 11 minutes.
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That's a tough assignment for Brian against the Lakers right now. They are trying to right the ship and are in a really bad mood. They are trying to step up their defensive effort.
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They lost a tough one but Roberts played well. 25 min. 15 Pts. 3 reb. 4 ast. 6-10 shooting.
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They need to bring the Jazz back to New Orleans.
Here is an idea, Charlotte, New Orleans and Utah need to make a three-way trade. Charlotte goes back to the Charlotte Hornets, New Orleans back to the New Orleans Jazz and Utah becomes the Utah Bobcats. Once this is done, all will be right with the world.
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And then bring the Royals back to Cincinnati.
"D*mn you Kansas City!"
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And then bring the Royals back to Cincinnati.
"D*mn you Kansas City!"
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And then bring our NFL team, the Colts FKA the Triangles, back to Dayton.
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Originally Posted by Gilchrist's Autograph 2
They lost a tough one but Roberts played well. 25 min. 15 Pts. 3 reb. 4 ast. 6-10 shooting.
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Another sterling performance by Roberts. He just lets the game come to him and then does his job. Shot one 3pt and made it. Shot 2 freethrows and made them. Only 1 turnover. Very efficient on the court.
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Tied for the teams leading scorer. And had the highest +/- of anyone on the team.
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Like others, I have been trying to follow BRob, and games like last night make we wonder why the NBA took so long to bring BRob in.
Those of us on this board knew all along that he had this ability.
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Originally Posted by udx2
Like others, I have been trying to follow BRob, and games like last night make we wonder why the NBA took so long to bring BRob in.
Those of us on this board knew all along that he had this ability.
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I don't think he had this ability when he left UD. He worked his butt off in Germany and earned his way into the league. When the opportunity came knocking he took full advantage. Kudos to him, I think he will be in the league for a while.
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Too bad he's not on a playoffs caliber team. I'd really love to see BRob in playoff games
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I dint thin he left UD with the ability to facilitate an NBA offense or was strong enough to defend in the NBA or play through contact. He could have scored like this, but not the other parts if his role. That's why it took so long.
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Too bad he's not on a playoffs caliber team. I'd really love to see BRob in playoff games
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Be careful what you wish for. I would love for him to have the opportunity, but let's see how he does against the leagues top 8 this season. They usually have the elite point guards to defend and are equally good on defense. He is getting major minutes in his first trip around the league and that's excellent for him.
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I can't express how proud I am of BRob and how happy I am for him. I graduated UD in 99 and after Perryman, BRob is the first real hero I had as a Flyer. It was TRAGIC he didn't get to the dance CW's freshman year. But Brian's story is still being written! Go get 'em!
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Brian is leading scorer tonight with 16, including a big 3 to pull them within 1, but they give up free throws in the closing seconds and lose to Ok City.
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I caught that big three on SportsCenter this monring.
Was funny, because I almost never watch SC in morning. Then I almost never watch highlights saying 'are they going to show BRob'. But it all came together this morning.
Big shot. Ran back to the line, spotted up, and nailed it.
From that really brief highlight, it looked like they had BRob in with another point guard. Not sure if it was Rivers or the kid from Maryland.
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Wow, I haven't been following Brian's play at NO. Did see him against the Wizards on the tube the other night - just checked the box from last night - he was the high scorer with 16, a couple of steals, some assists. Wouldn't it be nice if he put together a good little 6 or 7 year career. Thanks for posting Keats '91.
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore?gid=2012121225
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Originally Posted by keats '91
I caught that big three on SportsCenter this monring.
Was funny, because I almost never watch SC in morning. Then I almost never watch highlights saying 'are they going to show BRob'. But it all came together this morning.
Big shot. Ran back to the line, spotted up, and nailed it.
From that really brief highlight, it looked like they had BRob in with another point guard. Not sure if it was Rivers or the kid from Maryland.
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Was in with Vasquez from maryland, who took the final 3. Didn't see the play, was hoping BRob would get a look in the final possession too.
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I saw that final possession. B-Rob was a open and a better option than what they got.
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Has this been posted anywhere else, yet? Check this out:
http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/page/...-first-quarter
"3. Who's the best rookie of the first quarter of the season?
Abbott: Damian Lillard, but only because Anthony Davis has played only eight games. Also in the conversation: Andre Drummond and -- look him up! -- Brian Roberts."
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From ESPN's NBA Rookie Watch:
"We're keeping track of every NBA rook. Here are the latest Top 50 rankings:
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#5 - Brian Roberts (stock rising)
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story...urnaround-time
Note - this is paid content, so I am not free to copy at length.
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The Plain Dealer has a column about Brian which includes this nice observation.
an argument could be made that he's had more impact on the Hornets so far this season than No. 1 draft pick Anthony Davis or No. 10 choice Austin Rivers.
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I can't speak for other providers but DirecTV is offering free NBA League Pass this weekend. The Hornets are playing on DirecTV channel 754 right now.
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Greivis Vasquez had a stat stuffer night, so Brian only played 4 minutes.
Greivis: 46 Minutes
7 offensive, 8 rebounds total
11 Assists
23 points
hard to take out a guy with that type of numbers.
Austin Rivers 3-8 shooting, 33 minutes, 2 assists.
Roger Mason 18 minutes 1-4 shooting , 3 rebounds
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From the time that I started watching in the 2nd quarter, Brian never played again. I thought that possibly Brian had gotten hurt which would explain why he didnt get in the game again but apparently that wasnt the case. A blogger had this comment about last night's game.
- Very little Brian Roberts, in a game he most certainly would have helped.
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Nice read, hopefully he continues this momentum
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Obviously New Orleans isn't aiming for the playoffs this year, and have a decent amount invested in Rivers and Vasquez. I wonder if there are playoff teams out there keeping tabs on BRob as a potential trade target for a backup PG down the stretch. I wonder how much it would take to get him from New Orleans, 2nd round pick at this point, perhaps eating a salary on their current team for a player they don't value much moving forward?
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and the extra bonus of not having to be a "Pelican"
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Originally Posted by Flyer 86
Greivis Vasquez had a stat stuffer night, so Brian only played 4 minutes.
Greivis: 46 Minutes
7 offensive, 8 rebounds total
11 Assists
23 points
hard to take out a guy with that type of numbers.
Austin Rivers 3-8 shooting, 33 minutes, 2 assists.
Roger Mason 18 minutes 1-4 shooting , 3 rebounds
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so according to At the Hive blog, not such quality minutes from Vasquez and that he isn't connecting with Anthony Davis like he should.
Writer said he like to see or thinks Brian deserved more time. And sounds like his minutes he's more "under control" and point guardesque protecting the ball .... unlike Greivis.
i'm pretty sure Vasquez had 7 Turnovers, not of the apple variety.
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http://www.hoopsworld.com/nba-am-unc...okies-shining/
Brian Roberts, New Orleans Hornets – Roberts has one of the best stories in the NBA. After going undrafted out of the University of Dayton, he spent three years playing in Germany. This time last year, he was overseas and, at 27 years old, it looked like his NBA dream would never become reality. Over the offseason, Roberts landed on the Hornets’ summer league team and recorded double figures in every game. He was the best player on the team and received a training camp invite as a result. He continued to shine during the preseason and was added to New Orleans’ regular season roster. Now, he continues to make an impact for the Hornets, averaging 7.8 points and 2.6 assists in 16.6 minutes. He has outperformed fellow rookies Austin Rivers and Darius Miller, and he stepped up as a scorer in Anthony Davis’ absence. Roberts has the sixth-best Player Efficiency Rating in this year’s rookie class (16.39).
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Roberts solid again
In a losing effort by the Hornets, steady Brian Roberts had another nice outing. 4/9 from the floor with 3 assists and 1 to, and 3/3 from the line for 11 points in 17 minutes. Taking 12 shots and scoring 11 points is efficient. And that's against the Spurs who are not chopped liver.
http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400278107
His shooting has dropped off a bit at 43/39/90, but still not to be confused with Rivers who is still struggling at 35/37/63.
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Kinda makes you wonder what he could do as an every day starter.... Perhaps the best player in the NBA for the money.
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Rivers stats are pretty much carbon copies of his Duke stats. Shouldnt be a suprise.
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Brian Roberts: your dream team awaits:
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ba...2970--nba.html
0-22 from 3 point range sets an NBA record for futility. In only 1 degree of separation, the University of Dayton could be associated with 2 of these performances.
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Originally Posted by Gazoo
Brian Roberts: your dream team awaits:
http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ba...2970--nba.html
0-22 from 3 point range sets an NBA record for futility. In only 1 degree of separation, the University of Dayton could be associated with 2 of these performances.
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Big difference is that despite the poor shooting, UD came away with the win!
I'd rather win playing ugly than lose playing great
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Eric Gordon is back...so Brian's minutes are minimal...until one of them is traded!
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Gordon has not played but Roberts is 4-5 with 9 Pts in first half tonight. At halftime he has 11 Pts and 3 reb and an ast. While Austin Rivers goes 1-6 from the free throw line. I know who my point guard of the future would be.
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Vazquez is having a breakout stretch for the Hornets
Greivis Vasquez was named Western Conference Player of the Week. Missed a triple double by one rebound and has the pg position pretty well locked up. He has improved significantly since the beginning of the year and at 6'6" he is a tough cover:
http://www.nba.com/hornets/news/grei...ce-player-week
Not to take anything away from our man Roberts, but I think Rivers is the wrong competition to be watching on the Hornets.
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Yep - Rivers and Roberts don't play the same position on the Hornets. Roberts will get very little time at the 2, he is way too small. They can run Roberts at point and Vazquez at the 2 with Vazquez size.
The question for Roberts sticking on the Hornets roster will be if the Hornets think they need a pure point to back up Vazquez when Gordon is fully healthy and can play every night. If they feel they can run Rivers or Gordon there for 10 minutes a night, Roberts could be traded or released. My guess is that doesn't happen during this season because they will bring Gordon along very slowly.
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Yep - Rivers and Roberts don't play the same position on the Hornets. Roberts will get very little time at the 2, he is way too small. They can run Roberts at point and Vazquez at the 2 with Vazquez size.
The question for Roberts sticking on the Hornets roster will be if the Hornets think they need a pure point to back up Vazquez when Gordon is fully healthy and can play every night. If they feel they can run Rivers or Gordon there for 10 minutes a night, Roberts could be traded or released. My guess is that doesn't happen during this season because they will bring Gordon along very slowly.
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If Vasquez continues the learning curve he is on, look for
somebody to get traded---and it might be him. Whatever
conglomerate owns the Hornets right now, they could
benefit from a couple of high draft choices and maybe
another good player by trading him. And possibly some
cash.
Roberts may just be inexpensive enough to fit into the Hornets plans because
they can afford him, and wouldn't get much in trade anyway.
Anyway one looks at it, the Hornets aren't likely to win 20 games so
money comes into focus.
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Originally Posted by San Diego Flyer
If Vasquez continues the learning curve he is on, look for
somebody to get traded---and it might be him. Whatever
conglomerate owns the Hornets right now, they could
benefit from a couple of high draft choices and maybe
another good player by trading him. And possibly some
cash.
Roberts may just be inexpensive enough to fit into the Hornets plans because
they can afford him, and wouldn't get much in trade anyway.
Anyway one looks at it, the Hornets aren't likely to win 20 games so
money comes into focus.
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Promising quote about BRob on the ESPN site (Fantasy Basketball, Jan 3):
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/6641/brian-roberts
Roberts played 22 minutes Wednesday, scoring 11 points and grabbing three rebounds.
Spin: The minutes are inflated because Eric Gordon (knee) was sitting out the second game of a back-to-back. In any case, Roberts proved again he can be a potent scoring threat when given the opportunity.
Greivis Vasquez has been playing at an incredible level this season, but if he were to get hurt, Roberts would be in line for major production.
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And?
Even this articles agrees his minutes will decrease as Gordon recovers and gets back to full health (if he ever does). And if his minutes do diminish enough, the Hornets well may trade or release him. That doesn't mean he wont catch on as a back up point somewhere else, and it doesn't mean it happens this year. And as SDF notes, Roberts is cheap and he could stick and they get more value by trading Vazquez.
The fact remains the Hornets have a lot of money tied up in Rivers, they aren't going to bail on him that fast and they have a fair amount invested in Vazquez. Depending on what happens there Roberts may find a more stable home if traded or if he has the option to sign on elsewhere next year.
Already said I don't see it happening this year.
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And the only ones with much trade value are Vazquez and Roberts. But Vazquez may demand a new deal in a trade the way he's been playing.
Regardless it's great that Roberts caught on with the Hornets and is providing productive minutes. He is in a much better position than if he wasn't productive when given the opportunity. Someone is likely to pick him up, unlike Wright who just wasn't getting opportunities to show if he could play.
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The Mavericks are desperate for a point guard and long range talent. They are searching for a point guard as we speak. By the time the Hornets reach the end of Feb and don't have 12 wins or whatever, both teams will likely find each other and talk. What happens, who knows? My guess is that Cuban and Carlisle would want Vasquez.
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BRob and the Hornets are on FoxSports SW tonight at 8:30. Channel 676 on DirecTV.
What a great Saturday! Bengals at 4:30. Flyers at 7:00pm. And BRob at 8:30!!
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Slow night for BRob last night. He only played 8 minutes, scoring 3 pts. No assists, one turnover. Vasquez had 25 points and seven boards. Hornets won in OT.
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In the 3 games the Eric Gordon has played the past week, Roberts has only gotten 6, 7 and 8 minutes of action and scored a total of 3 points. Could be a long second half of basketball (losing and sitting) for Roberts once Gordon is 100%.
On a side note, Daequan Cook (Dunbar/tOSU/Houston) was released on Jan 2 and is a free agent.
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I wonder if they keep him as an insurance policy on Gordon. Minutes are way down. He needs to get PT, as he was coming into his own in the NBA, and in his role with the Hornets.
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Originally Posted by rollo
On a side note, Daequan Cook (Dunbar/tOSU/Houston) was released on Jan 2 and is a free agent.
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As would be expected Brian's shooting % is dropping with the inconsistent minutes he's getting. The pecking order on the Hornets (Pelicans) is being defined as players get healthy and more experience. Catch 22 for Brian. What got him looks was his good A/TO ratio and knocking down open shots. Without playing time his stats will eventually suffer from the pine flu. I know last night the Mavs would have traded their two point guards for Vasquez and Roberts in a heartbeat.
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www.hoopsrumors.com says that NOH is going to sign Donald Sloan a point guard from the D-League. It goes on to say:
"It's unclear whether the addition of Sloan is meant to provide more depth or signals the end in New Orleans for Roberts and his non-guaranteed contract. The Hornets would have to place Roberts on waivers today or Monday to avoid guaranteeing his minimum-salary deal for the rest of the season"
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I haven't watched the games... can anyone speak of Roberts' defense? Offensively, his numbers are great... for a backup rookie anyway. I don't know how you could ask for more from a minimum salaray. But if he's giving up more than he gets, he's not that useful.
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