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Old 02-02-2019, 11:52 AM
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Against St. Joes's the Davidson guards were horrible. It shows that on any given night the players might have their A or D game. More often, the A games seem to be at home and the D games are on the road.
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I watched the entire Davidson/Bonnie game. Bonnie could not guard/stop the Davidson guards at crunch time. Davidson's guards scored all the points. The took 30 threes and made 14. Their two bigs scored zero.

Our guards better bring their best D, and Cunningham and Obi must/should dominate and score 40+ points. Grady is a tough matchup with his size, driving and shooting.
And Jon Axel Gudmundsson has some serious range.
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Old 02-02-2019, 12:17 PM
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It wasn’t just the Davidson guards scoring. Davidson shut down SBU in the 2nd half. Bonnie’s could not miss in the first half but couldn’t hit the broad side of the barn in the 2nd half. Davidson packed it in with a zone. I would expect to see the same thing against the Flyers.
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I watched the entire Davidson/Bonnie game. Bonnie could not guard/stop the Davidson guards at crunch time. Davidson's guards scored all the points. The took 30 threes and made 14. Their two bigs scored zero.

Our guards better bring their best D, and Cunningham and Obi must/should dominate and score 40+ points. Grady is a tough matchup with his size, driving and shooting.
When we play Davidson, it’s going to be a real battle of Inside (us) vs. Outside (them). It’ll be interesting to see if AG takes the “best defense is a good offense” strategy, and forces them to stop our strength (Josh, Obi, Ryan), or if he takes the “defense wins championships” strategy, and focuses on stopping Gudmundsson and Grady. If it’s the latter, then Davis and Cohill will need to drink their OJ and take their vitamins, because I can’t see anyone else successfully throttling Davidson’s wings.

And that will be a game that could highlight the loss of Jhery. If we had him available, he’d provide the ideal combination of length and agility to contain Grady.
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When we play Davidson, it’s going to be a real battle of Inside (us) vs. Outside (them). It’ll be interesting to see if AG takes the “best defense is a good offense” strategy, and forces them to stop our strength (Josh, Obi, Ryan), or if he takes the “defense wins championships” strategy, and focuses on stopping Gudmundsson and Grady. If it’s the latter, then Davis and Cohill will need to drink their OJ and take their vitamins, because I can’t see anyone else successfully throttling Davidson’s wings.

And that will be a game that could highlight the loss of Jhery. If we had him available, he’d provide the ideal combination of length and agility to contain Grady.
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To me Gudmundson is the bigger concern. I’m okay with Davis/Cohill on Grady but Crutcher on Gudmundson scares me.
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Good news is Rhode Island thumps St Louis this afternoon. Bad news is we have to play at St Louis and Rhode Island this week.
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To me Gudmundson is the bigger concern. I’m okay with Davis/Cohill on Grady but Crutcher on Gudmundson scares me.
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I agree. My point was, I agree that Davis and Cohill should keep Grady from going off, but I’d love to throw Matos in the mix, so we could have 3 defenders to take turns guarding 2 scorers. As it is, Grady and Gudmundsson average 37 and 36 minutes per game, respectively, and I can’t see anyone else on our active roster successfully defending either of these guys. So, to defend against those 2, our 3 smallest scholarship players could get as little as 20 minutes off, combined. That’s a concern.
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Results for Saturday, February 3 and upcoming games

OOC Saturday, February 2:
Miami (9-12) 46 @ #3 Virginia (20-1) 56
#22 Mississippi State (16-5) 81 @ Ole Miss (14-7) 75
Alabama (13-8) 63 @ Auburn (15-6) 84
Seton Hall (13-9) 68 @ Butler (13-10) 70
Oklahoma (15-7) 71 @ West Virginia (10-12) 79
Tulsa (13-10) 68 @ Wichita State (10-11) 79
Georgia Southern (13-9) 72 @ Georgia State (16-6) 81
Youngstown State (8-16) 72 @ Detroit Mercy (9-14) 70
Western Michigan (6-15) 64 @ Central Michigan (16-6) 85
Morgan State (8-14) 71 @ Coppin State (5-19) 73
Purdue Fort Wayne (14-10) 82 @ Oral Roberts (8-16) 81

No OOC games Sunday, February 3

OOC games Monday, February 4:
#20 Iowa State (17-5) @ Oklahoma (15-7)


A-10 Games Saturday, February 2:
Duquesne (15-7) 64 @ Dayton (15-7) 68
Saint Louis (14-8) 54 @ Rhode Island (12-9) 65
George Mason (13-9) 63 @ VCU (15-6) 79
UMass (8-14) 62 @ Saint Joe's (10-12) 64
La Salle (6-14) 66 @ Richmond (8-15) 58

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X goes down hard, 76-54, falls below .500 at 11-12, 3-7 in Big East.
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X goes down hard, 76-54, falls below .500 at 11-12, 3-7 in Big East.
Calling all janitors in Big East Arenas: for the remainder of this basketball season, you will be well advised to take the day off when Xavier comes to town.
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X goes down hard, 76-54, falls below .500 at 11-12, 3-7 in Big East.
As an ardent practitioner of schadenfreude, I approve of this news.
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Calling all janitors in Big East Arenas: for the remainder of this basketball season, you will be well advised to take the day off when Xavier comes to town.

And they might need a plumber.
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X goes down hard, 76-54, falls below .500 at 11-12, 3-7 in Big East.
All I can say is...


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I heard that there is a Dayton chapter of the "Travis Steele Fan Club" that has been started. I would like to know how I can help the cause.
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I heard that there is a Dayton chapter of the "Travis Steele Fan Club" that has been started. I would like to know how I can help the cause.

https://youtu.be/yckn3wGfx00

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X goes down hard, 76-54, falls below .500 at 11-12, 3-7 in Big East.
And they’ll probably get a NCAA bid! Selection committee is a joke!
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X goes down hard, 76-54, falls below .500 at 11-12, 3-7 in Big East.
If they finish this season below .500, it’ll be the first time that’s happened since the 1995-96 season. To put that in perspective:
-Travis Steele was in 8th Grade.
-Edwin Young and Mark Ashman were All-State players as seniors in high school. And
-None of the players on our current roster were alive.

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Results for Monday, February 4 and upcoming games

OOC games Monday, February 4:
#17 Iowa State (18-5) 75 @ Oklahoma (15-8) 74

OOC games Tuesday, February 5:
Florida (12-9) @ Auburn (15-6)
Bowling Green (15-6) @ Western Michigan (6-15)

OOC games Wednesday, February 6:
#21 LSU (17-4) @ Mississippi State (16-5)
Georgia Southern (13-9) @ Louisiana-Lafayette (13-9)
Lipscomb (18-4) @ North Florida (9-15)


No A-10 games Monday, February 4

A-10 Games Tuesday, February 5:
Dayton (15-7) @ St Louis (14-8)
Saint Joe's (10-12) @ La Salle (6-14)

A-10 games Wednesday, February 6:
Rhode Island (12-9) @ Davidson (16-5)
George Mason (13-9) @ Richmond (8-14)
VCU (15-6) @ George Washington (7-14)
Fordham (9-12) @ UMass (8-14)
St Bonaventure (8-13) @ Duquesne (15-7)

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Looks like the Sooners are gaining steam. Ouch. So much for that being a “really good loss”. It’s rapidly coming down into the ranks of “decent”. And, given when it happened, with our relative youth and short bench, rather understandable.
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And Auburn is no longer in the Top25.
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Rats

Results for Tuesday, February 5 and upcoming games

OOC games Tuesday, February 5:
Florida (12-10) 62 @ Auburn (16-6) 76
Bowling Green (16-6) 85 @ Western Michigan (6-16) 72

OOC games Wednesday, February 6:
#21 LSU (17-4) @ Mississippi State (16-5)
Georgia Southern (13-9) @ Louisiana-Lafayette (13-9)
Lipscomb (18-4) @ North Florida (9-15)

OOC games Thursday, February 7:
Western Illinois (8-15) @ Purdue Fort Wayne (15-10)
Detroit Mercy (9-14) @ Northern Kentucky (18-6)
UNC Asheville (3-20) @ Presbyterian (13-11)


A-10 Games Tuesday, February 5:
Dayton (15-8) 60 @ St Louis (15-8) 73
Saint Joe's (10-13) 69 @ La Salle (7-14) 83

A-10 games Wednesday, February 6:
Rhode Island (12-9) @ Davidson (16-5)
George Mason (13-9) @ Richmond (8-14)
VCU (15-6) @ George Washington (7-14)
Fordham (9-12) @ UMass (8-14)
St Bonaventure (8-13) @ Duquesne (15-7)

No A-10 games Thursday

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Wow, the Spiders pull the big upset knocking off Mason by 14. Helps our cause.
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Both Davidson and VCU take care of business as well
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Flyers tied for third, 1.5 games back

Results for Wednesday, February 6 and upcoming games

OOC games Wednesday, February 6:
#21 LSU (18-4) 92 @ Mississippi State (16-6) 88 (OT)
Georgia Southern (14-9) 103 @ Louisiana-Lafayette (13-10) 86
Lipscomb (19-4) 92 @ North Florida (9-16) 55

OOC games Thursday, February 7:
Western Illinois (8-15) @ Purdue Fort Wayne (15-10)
Detroit Mercy (9-14) @ Northern Kentucky (18-6)
UNC Asheville (3-20) @ Presbyterian (13-11)

OOC games Friday, February 8:
Georgia Southern (13-9) @ Louisiana-Monroe (11-10)


A-10 games Wednesday, February 6:
Rhode Island (12-10) 53 @ Davidson (17-5) 68
George Mason (13-10) 67 @ Richmond (9-14) 81
VCU (16-6) 60 @ George Washington (7-15) 50
Fordham (10-12) 85 @ UMass (8-15) 67
St Bonaventure (9-13) 51 @ Duquesne (15-8) 49

A-10 games Friday, February 8:
St Louis (15-8) @ St Joe's (10-13)

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Maybe it’s good that we played Richmond when we did. In the last couple of weeks, they’ve knocked-off both SLU & GM, 2 teams in the upper half of the A10 standings.

Also, it looks like we may have beaten Duquesne twice, with that loss to St. Bonnie on their home court.

Finally, Fordham smokes UMass by 18 in Amherst? To paraphrase Yogi Berra, 1 word: youneverknow.
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Results for Thursday, February 7 and upcoming games

OOC games Thursday, February 7:
Western Illinois (8-16) 64 @ Purdue Fort Wayne (16-10) 79
UNC Asheville (3-21) 44 @ Presbyterian (14-11) 67
Detroit Mercy (9-15) 65 @ Northern Kentucky (19-6) 97

OOC games Friday, February 8:
Georgia Southern (13-9) @ Louisiana-Monroe (11-10)

OOC games Saturday, February 9:
#2 Duke (20-2) @ #3 Virginia (20-1)
#5 Kentucky (19-3) @ Mississippi State (16-6)
Auburn (16-6) @ #21 LSU (18-4)
#18 Texas Tech (18-5) @ Oklahoma (15-8)
Butler (13-10) @ Georgetown (15-8)
Temple (17-6) @ Tulsa (13-10)
Gardner-Webb (14-9) @ Presbyterian (14-11)
Detroit Mercy (9-15) @ Wright State (13-11)
North Florida (9-16) @ North Alabama (8-17)
Western Michigan (6-16) @ Ball State (12-11)
Coppin State (5-19) @ Savannah State (7-15)


No A-10 games Thursday, February7

A-10 games Friday, February 8:
St Louis (15-8) @ St Joe's (10-13)

A-10 games Saturday, February 9:
Dayton (15-8) @ Rhode Island (12-10)
Davidson (17-5) @ UMass (8-15)
Duquesne (15-8) @ Fordham (10-12)
VCU (16-6) @ St Bonaventure (9-13)
George Washington (7-15) @ Richmond (9-14)

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I have thoroughly enjoyed watching ST Joes take it to STL. 2:58 left and the score is 82 - 59. StL will be 6-5 in the A10.
Final 91-61 Martelli's father died Wednesday and his team played great for him.

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I have thoroughly enjoyed watching ST Joes take it to STL. 2:58 left and the score is 82 - 59. StL will be 6-5 in the A10
Flyers beat Joes but lost to SLU. Granted Joes was at home and SLU on the road. A10 tourney will be scrap shoot for everyone.
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Flyers tied for third, one game up on fifth place Duquesne

Results for Friday, February 8 and upcoming games

OOC games Friday, February 8:
Georgia Southern (14-10) 79 @ Louisiana-Monroe (13-10) 88

OOC games Saturday, February 9:
#2 Duke (20-2) @ #3 Virginia (20-1)
#5 Kentucky (19-3) @ Mississippi State (16-6)
Auburn (16-6) @ #21 LSU (18-4)
#18 Texas Tech (18-5) @ Oklahoma (15-8)
Butler (13-10) @ Georgetown (15-8)
Temple (17-6) @ Tulsa (13-10)
Gardner-Webb (14-9) @ Presbyterian (13-11)
Detroit Mercy (9-14) @ Wright State (13-11)
North Florida (9-16) @ North Alabama (8-17)
Western Michigan (6-16) @ Ball State (12-11)
Coppin State (5-19) @ Savannah State (7-15)

No OOC games Sunday


A-10 games Friday, February 8:
St Louis (15-9) 61 @ St Joe's (11-13) 91

A-10 games Saturday, February 9:
Dayton (15-8) @ Rhode Island (12-10)
Davidson (17-5) @ UMass (8-15)
Duquesne (15-8) @ Fordham (10-12)
VCU (16-6) @ St Bonaventure (9-13)
George Washington (7-15) @ Richmond (9-14)

A-10 games Sunday, February 10:
La Salle (7-14) @ George Mason (13-10)

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Originally Posted by Lifelong Flyer Fan View Post
I have thoroughly enjoyed watching ST Joes take it to STL. 2:58 left and the score is 82 - 59. StL will be 6-5 in the A10.
Final 91-61 Martelli's father died Wednesday and his team played great for him.
St L coach has to banging his head, and his dog's head, against the wall. They lose four straight, get sky high and easily handle UD, and then fall real flat last night. Hopefully, he is also looking in the mirror. Problem is he recruited a bunch of physical athletes who are marginal basketball players.
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St L coach has to banging his head, and his dog's head, against the wall. Problem is he recruited a bunch of physical athletes who are marginal basketball players.
Where have we seen that before?
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At halftime of the Saint Joe's vs Saint Louis game, the coverage crew gushed over Obi Toppin, calling him a high NBA prospect.
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St L coach has to banging his head, and his dog's head, against the wall. They lose four straight, get sky high and easily handle UD, and then fall real flat last night. Hopefully, he is also looking in the mirror. Problem is he recruited a bunch of physical athletes who are marginal basketball players.
Actually SLU did not play a whole lot different than they did against Dayton. Hit the offensive boards. Played scrappy.

St Joes just shot the ball like we should have.
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Bonnie losing to VCU at the half by 24 on their home court. The game is not that close.
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So Richmond has won 3 of 4 (2 of “blowout” style), with wins over SLU on the road and George Mason at home and their loss being at home to LaSalle. Schizophrenia?!?!
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A good day for the Flyers, OOC - not so much.

Results for Saturday, February 9 and upcoming games

OOC games Saturday, February 9:
#2 Duke (21-2) 81 @ #3 Virginia (20-2) 71
#5 Kentucky (20-3) 71 @ Mississippi State (16-7) 67
Auburn (16-7) 78 @ #21 LSU (19-4) 83
#18 Texas Tech (19-5) 66 @ Oklahoma (15-9) 54
Butler (14-10) 73 @ Georgetown (15-9) 69
Temple (17-7) 58 @ Tulsa (14-10) 76
Gardner-Webb (14-10) 101 @ Presbyterian (14-11) 103 (OT)
Detroit Mercy (9-15) 60 @ Wright State (14-11) 83
North Florida (10-16) 82 @ North Alabama (8-18) 73
Western Michigan (6-17) 59 @ Ball State (13-11) 79
Coppin State (5-20) 62 @ Savannah State (8-15) 71

No OOC games Sunday

OOC games Monday, February 11:
#3 Virginia (20-1) @ #8 North Carolina (18-4)
Oklahoma (15-8) @ Baylor (15-7)
Coppin State (5-19) @ South Carolina State (4-20)


A-10 games Saturday, February 9:
Dayton (16-8) 77 @ Rhode Island (12-11) 48
Davidson (17-6) 51 @ UMass (9-15) 54
Duquesne (16-8) 74 @ Fordham (10-13) 66
VCU (17-6) 85 @ St Bonaventure (9-14) 55
George Washington (7-16) 63 @ Richmond (10-14) 89

A-10 games Sunday, February 10:
La Salle (7-14) @ George Mason (13-10)

No A-10 games Monday

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DePaul beating X at X by 8 with 1:09 left. Life is good!
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Xavier loses their 6th straight game.
Simply put, they chocked. They did nothing right the last 5 minutes of the game.
Wright State would have no problem beating that team. Handily.
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Xavier loses their 6th straight game.
Simply put, they chocked. They did nothing right the last 5 minutes of the game.
Wright State would have no problem beating that team. Handily.
And what seems to me to be almost inconceivable is that 8 of the 10 teams in the Big East are still below .500 in the conference. The 3rd Place team is 5-6 in conference play. Unless something changes fast, the Big East could get anywhere from 2 to 7 NCAA bids, depending on how other tumblers fall. That’s the definition of parity.
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IU loses at home to OSU for their 4th straight home loss and 9th loss out of last 10. Unbelievably IU was predicted to be one of the first four out before this game.
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Results for Sunday, February 10 and upcoming games

No OOC games Sunday

OOC games Monday, February 11:
#3 Virginia (20-1) @ #8 North Carolina (18-4)
Oklahoma (15-8) @ Baylor (15-7)
Coppin State (5-19) @ South Carolina State (4-20)

OOC games Tuesday, February 12:
Alabama (14-8) @ Mississippi State (16-7)
Butler (14-10) @ Saint John's (17-7)
Northern Illinois (12-12) @ Western Michigan (6-17)


A-10 games Sunday, February 10:
La Salle (7-15) 76 @ George Mason (14-10) 84

No A-10 games Monday

A-10 games Tuesday, February 12:
Saint Bonaventure (9-14) @ Saint Joe's (11-13)
Davidson (17-6) @ Fordham (10-13)


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Close game, although a loss, to another quality, tournament-probable team in tOSU. IU continues to “game steam”
Watched that game. Began to think, the Dayton team from yesterday would have crushed both of those teams. But it's all about matchups.
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I've been saying it for a few years now that wins and losses for P5 schools are becoming less and less important than efficiency and other advanced stays.
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X goes down hard, 76-54, falls below .500 at 11-12, 3-7 in Big East.
My personal Schadenfraude. I'm loving this. AG needs to win the recruiting battles and help keep that program down.
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As Archie (aka Hue Jackson) stated: "We need to keep getting better." It appears to me that despite that anomaly at MSU, they keep getting worse.
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In another game of note yesterday, USF won their 5th straight game (they had only won 4 conference games in the last two years combined). They play UCF Wednesday night to potentially move into a bye spot for the AAC tournament. BG has things trending in the right direction down there.
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In another game of note yesterday, USF won their 5th straight game (they had only won 4 conference games in the last two years combined). They play UCF Wednesday night to potentially move into a bye spot for the AAC tournament. BG has things trending in the right direction down there.
I don't give a golden rat's *ss how what's-his-name does in Bloomington but I'll always support and root for BG.
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As I posted on here a few weeks ago, DePaul is steadily improving...IMO, not surprising that they were able to win somewhere where we have not been able to win in a long time...they are kenpom #97, x is kenpom #112.

Kind of makes me wonder why Purnell did not do better there. They are doing better now that he is gone.
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I saw an article the other day about the amazing turnaround by USF this season.

Contrary to popular belief, BG has some good coaching capabilities. He did a couple of things well. Is he perfect? No. Could he have done a better job at UD? Yes.

I’m glad he is having success in Tampa.
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BG was not a great coach at UD. But it is now several years later and his second coaching stint. Just like Grant, and most human beings, BG has learned and changed, and may become a great coach.
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BG was not a great coach at UD. But it is now several years later and his second coaching stint. Just like Grant, and most human beings, BG has learned and changed, and may become a great coach.
It's his third. Don't forget get his tenure at Georgia Tech.
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I don't give a golden rat's *ss how what's-his-name does in Bloomington but I'll always support and root for BG.
I'll always appreciate BG for taking a different job which allowed us to hire Archie. BG underachieved greatly here.

UD fans' disdain for Archie will always be a complete mystery to me. BG left UD for a power conference job too
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Take BG away from UD and most liked the man and his family personally. Take Archie away from UD and well......
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Dayton gave both the first shot at being a head coach.
I think the difference is that BG loved UD and Dayton. When he got the GT offer, he wasn't encouraged to stay (no counter offer is what I have heard).
I do not have disdain for AM, but he was waiting for the chance to go. He got a generous counter offer to stay, he went.
BG became a Dayton guy and I will always wish him well.

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UD fans' disdain for Archie will always be a complete mystery to me. BG left UD for a power conference job too
I'll take Archie's results over BGs results any day! It was his methods, denials, cover-ups and ethics that I despised. To some, that matters. To others, not so much. I get that. Why others don't get it is troublesome.
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This is BG's 2nd gig after leaving UD. My feelings now are a little different than when he first left. In the future I might pull for an Archie coached Tulane team too.
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Kind of makes me wonder why Purnell did not do better there. They are doing better now that he is gone.
OP gets a lot of credit for the rebuilding job he did at UD (which he should) but even BG won a NCAA tournament game in his career while OP never did and was upset his last four trips losing as a #4, #5, and twice and a #7 seed
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IU loses at home to OSU for their 4th straight home loss and 9th loss out of last 10. Unbelievably IU was predicted to be one of the first four out before this game.
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And is 1-5 in games decided by 10pts or less in that stretch. Clearly he has no idea what he's doing at the end of games to close contests out. Gets outcoached almost every time. The guy is a moron.
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BG was not a great coach at UD. But it is now several years later and his second coaching stint. Just like Grant, and most human beings, BG has learned and changed, and may become a great coach.
Just because you didn’t like his style of basketball doesn’t make him a bad coach. Yeah his brand looks ugly at times but man he won a lot of games against P5 opponents. His win % was just 4% below Archie. And he also represented the community and program better than any other public figure during his tenure. He recruited well and had us playing strong teams outside the conference (not including early season tournaments).
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To think that BG did not have aspirations past UD like Archie is dreaming. Both coaches looked to move up. Archie just had a higher ceiling. Both coaches were very loyal to UD during their tenure.
I never heard a bad word about UD from either.

Archie has a more driven, quirky personality. Don’t confuse that with disloyalty.

BGs record of off court activity was not spotless. There were a number of cover ups during his tenure. Management of off court behaviors was not hidden from senior UD leadership with both coaches.

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Just because you didn’t like his style of basketball doesn’t make him a bad coach. Yeah his brand looks ugly at times but man he won a lot of games against P5 opponents. His win % was just 4% below Archie. And he also represented the community and program better than any other public figure during his tenure. He recruited well and had us playing strong teams outside the conference (not including early season tournaments).
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I think you misread my post. "Not a great coach" does not equal bad coach, just makes him a good coach (an okay coach), not an excellent or great coach. Glad UD had higher aspirations for their coach and teams. Nothing wrong with his style of basketball? No style points in basketball.
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I'll always appreciate BG for taking a different job which allowed us to hire Archie. BG underachieved greatly here.

UD fans' disdain for Archie will always be a complete mystery to me. BG left UD for a power conference job too
I agree here. I could understand universal hatred for JOB, but I would think that BG and AM would both be looked at equally, love them or hate them.
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Results for Monday, February 11 and upcoming games

OOC games Monday, February 11:
#3 Virginia (21-2) 69 @ #8 North Carolina (19-5) 61
Oklahoma (15-10) 53 @ Baylor (16-8) 59
Coppin State (5-21) 84 @ South Carolina State (6-20) 85

OOC games Tuesday, February 12:
Alabama (15-8) @ Mississippi State (16-7)
Butler (14-10) @ Saint John's (17-7)
Northern Illinois (12-12) @ Western Michigan (6-17)

OOC games Wednesday, February 13:
Ole Miss (16-7) @ Auburn (16-7)
Presbyterian (15-11) @ Winthrop (16-8)
South Alabama (12-12) @ Georgia Southern (14-10)
Kennesaw State (5-20) # North Florida (10-16)


No A-10 games Monday

A-10 games Tuesday, February 12:
Saint Bonaventure (9-14) @ Saint Joe's (11-13)
Davidson (17-6) @ Fordham (10-13)

A-10 games Wednesday, February 13:
Saint Louis (15-9) @ George Washington (7-16)
Duquesne (16-8) @ La Salle (7-15)
Richmond (10-14) @ VCU (17-6)
UMass (9-15) @ George Mason (14-10)

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Some very interesting midweek games in the A10 this week, with potential implications for our place in the standings:
-Davidson at Fordham. Which Fordham will show up? The one that whacked UMass in Amherst by 18, or the one that lost to LaSalle at home?
-SLU at GW. Which SLU will show up? The one that stole our lunch money a week ago, or the one that got flattened at Hawk Hill this weekend?
-Duquesne at LaSalle. Duquesne is having a pretty good season, but they’re only 3-3 away from home, and LaSalle is at .500 in conference play.
-Richmond at VCU. The money will be on VCU to win pretty easily, but the Spiders have been playing better lately. Might be more of a contest than many people think it will be.
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Some very interesting midweek games in the A10 this week, with potential implications for our place in the standings:
-Davidson at Fordham. Which Fordham will show up? The one that whacked UMass in Amherst by 18, or the one that lost to LaSalle at home?
-SLU at GW. Which SLU will show up? The one that stole our lunch money a week ago, or the one that got flattened at Hawk Hill this weekend?
-Duquesne at LaSalle. Duquesne is having a pretty good season, but they’re only 3-3 away from home, and LaSalle is at .500 in conference play.
-Richmond at VCU. The money will be on VCU to win pretty easily, but the Spiders have been playing better lately. Might be more of a contest than many people think it will be.
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-Duquesne at LaSalle. Duquesne is having a pretty good season, but they’re only 3-3 away from home, and LaSalle is at .500 in conference play.

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Wow, Virginia must have ticked off the ACC schedulers. To have to play Duke on Sat, and turn right around and go to UNC on Monday is nasty, but they won.

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Wow, Virginia must have ticked off the ACC schedulers. To have to play Duke on Sat, and turn right around and go to UNC on Monday is nasty, but they won.

Bet Archie wishes he has Mr. Guy.
They're probably "blowing the curve" on the conference GPA, with Duke going full speed ahead with "1 & Done" players and UNC being, well, UNC. How dare UVA actually have Student-Athletes?
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Bonnies up 17 with about five minutes to go in the first half .
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Results for Tuesday, February 12 and upcoming games

OOC games Tuesday, February 12:
Alabama (15-9) 62 @ Mississippi State (17-7) 81
Butler (14-11) 73 @ Saint John's (18-7) 77
Northern Illinois (12-13) 74 @ Western Michigan (7-17) 76

OOC games Wednesday, February 13:
Ole Miss (16-7) @ Auburn (16-7)
Presbyterian (15-11) @ Winthrop (16-8)
South Alabama (12-12) @ Georgia Southern (14-10)
Kennesaw State (5-20) # North Florida (10-16)

OOC games Thursday, February 14:
Purdue Fort Wayne (16-10) @ Denver (7-18)
Tulsa (14-10) @ Tulane (4-18)
Detroit Mercy (9-16) @ Milwaukee (9-16)
Kent State (17-6) @ Western Michigan (6-17)


A-10 games Tuesday, February 12:
Saint Bonaventure (10-14) 76 @ Saint Joe's (11-14) 51
Davidson (18-6) 79 @ Fordham (10-14) 69

A-10 games Wednesday, February 13:
Saint Louis (15-9) @ George Washington (7-16)
Duquesne (16-8) @ La Salle (7-15)
Richmond (10-14) @ VCU (17-6)
UMass (9-15) @ George Mason (14-10)

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I’m certainly not a Duke fan, but really enjoyed watching Chris Mack and Louisville blow a 23 point lead and lose at home.
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Mack completely choked. The guy had no clue what he was doing when it counted late in the game. Hes the one making $4M a year. Anyone thats blows a 23-pt lead at home with 9 minutes to go does not know what hes doing. They should probably fire him right now and get a new guy in before the season is over and limit the damage.
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It’ll be interesting to see if the “small-town bully” can survive against the OGs in the ACC. Sounds like he got his lunch money stolen tonight.
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I was torn between seeing Mack lose or watching Coach K sulk as he walks through the handshake line after a loss...two of my favorite things in life.
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Mack completely choked. The guy had no clue what he was doing when it counted late in the game. Hes the one making $4M a year. Anyone thats blows a 23-pt lead at home with 9 minutes to go does not know what hes doing. They should probably fire him right now and get a new guy in before the season is over and limit the damage.
Louisville should have hired from within. Would have been much better of with an assistant coach on Pitino's staff. Those guys made the right calls.
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Louisville should have hired from within. Would have been much better of with an assistant coach on Pitino's staff. Those guys made the right calls.
One of the themes in the Dayton thread on the RI board was what a mistake it is to hire an assistant in order to keep a recruiting class. Gave me a chuckle.
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One of the themes in the Dayton thread on the RI board was what a mistake it is to hire an assistant in order to keep a recruiting class. Gave me a chuckle.
I'll resume this argument probably over the off-season, I know that you can't wait for that, lol, don't feel like debating it further at the moment.

Suffice it to say that I am not the only one that subscribes to this line of thinking.

Below article is a good summary of the topic, and I think it also applies to VCU and Butler.

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I'll resume this argument probably over the off-season, I know that you can't wait for that, lol, don't feel like debating it further at the moment.

Suffice it to say that I am not the only one that subscribes to this line of thinking.

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Has the ride changed much? When was the last time X was under .500 this late in the season?
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VCU has hired guys connected to Shaka on the last two hires but not really hiring within. Jordan for Butler was gone for a number of years before he came back.

Hiring from within works if you've got the right guy. New Mexico promoted Noodles Neal when Alford left and they tanked. Tulsa promoted John Phillips after Buzz Peterson left and he ran the program into the ground. Randy Peele got promoted after Gregg Marshall left Winthrop for Wichita State and tanked.

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I'll resume this argument probably over the off-season, I know that you can't wait for that, lol, don't feel like debating it further at the moment.

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I'm flabbergasted that you point to XU at this time. Their record is worse than UD's last year and I remember how much you bashed AG last year. Why are you giving Steele a pass when you wouldn't give the same to AG?

Ironic that one of the returning players for XU who "praised the Steele hiring" was Kaiser Gates. He promptly took his ball and moved on to Europe to play this season...so much for continuity!
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I saw an article the other day about the amazing turnaround by USF this season.

Contrary to popular belief, BG has some good coaching capabilities. He did a couple of things well. Is he perfect? No. Could he have done a better job at UD? Yes.

I’m glad he is having success in Tampa.
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Check their schedule. They played an amazingly soft one to get that record. Be surprised if they win more than two more this year.
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Results for Wednesday, February 13 and upcoming games

OOC games Wednesday, February 13:
Ole Miss (17-7) 60 @ Auburn (16-8) 58
Presbyterian (15-12) 85 @ Winthrop (17-8) 93
South Alabama (12-13) 65 @ Georgia Southern (15-10) 75
Kennesaw State (5-21) 57 @ North Florida (11-16) 80

OOC games Thursday, February 14:
Purdue Fort Wayne (16-10) @ Denver (7-18)
Tulsa (14-10) @ Tulane (4-18)
Detroit Mercy (9-16) @ Milwaukee (9-16)
Kent State (17-6) @ Western Michigan (6-17)

OOC games Friday, February 15:
Troy (11-12) @ Georgia Southern (14-10)


A-10 games Wednesday, February 13:
Saint Louis (16-9) 73 @ George Washington (7-17) 58
Duquesne (16-9) 72 @ La Salle (8-15) 73
Richmond (10-15) 60 @ VCU (18-6) 81
UMass (9-16) 75 @ George Mason (15-10) 80 (OT)

No A-10 games Thursday

A-10 games Friday, February 15:
Saint Joe's (11-14) @ Davidson (18-6)

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