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Old 10-12-2018, 10:40 AM
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A10-MWC Challenge

Jon Rothstein just tweeted that the A10 and MWC are in discussions for an annual challenge between the conferences. The MWC's agreement with the MVC ends after this season.

MWC current basketball teams:
Nevada
Boise State
New Mexico
San Diego St
Fresno St
Wyoming
UNLV
Utah State
Air Force
Colorado St
San Jos St

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That would be good fit for both conferences. I like it!
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Hallelujah! I'll take it!!!
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Hallelujah! I'll take it!!!
But only if it replaces a buy game, and we always play on the road, right?
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But only if it replaces a buy game, and we always play on the road, right?
Yes!!!!!
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great news, takes the pressure off of Neil to find one H/H series every year
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Interesting to see if this comes about if they make up for Nevada skipping out on their game at Rhode Island this year
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this won't start this year, I assume rhody and nevada will continue
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I don't recall San Jose St. as a member of the MWC. Is that new?
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I don't recall San Jose St. as a member of the MWC. Is that new?
They joined when the WAC broke up. I believe that was 2012.
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Awesome! Im a fan of the MWC. Great fit.
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Sources: The Atlantic 10 and Mountain West could finalize an annual challenge in the next few weeks. Talks between both sides continue to progress.

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Boise State probably deserves to get Dayton at their house after getting sent to Dayton to play a true away game, play-in game in which they suffered a crushing defeat at the hands of Jordan Sibert.

Though Dayton fans do generally speaking enjoy potatoes, I feel like theyd probably prefer to play elsewhere in years where the Mountain West was hosting. Vegas Dayton fans would go from LOWD to LEWD (I mean can you imagine) or San Diego hello weather come to mind.
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Sounds like I'm in the minority here....this doesn't really excite me at all.

Now if they would play the games in Vegas, that would be something I would hop on board for.
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This would be a great relationship. MWC is a solid basketball conference, and this gives UD exposure west of the Mississippi. Of the 11 MWC schools, 9 of them have good programs that draw fans.
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Sounds like I'm in the minority here....this doesn't really excite me at all.

Now if they would play the games in Vegas, that would be something I would hop on board for.
At a minimum, it may take the place of some no name school from the south to drive a bit of interest in the games.
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Boise State probably deserves to get Dayton at their house after getting sent to Dayton to play a true away game, play-in game in which they suffered a crushing defeat at the hands of Jordan Sibert.
Ditto this. Bet on Dayton having to play at Boise State. The organizers wont overlook that kind of storyline.
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I guess if you wish hard enough they can actually come true. This makes so much sense it’s almost comical. Good programs. Name recognition. Comparable league fighting for the same precious at-large bids. Duke and Carolina ain’t showing up. Playing the likes of Boston College at the Arena doesn’t generate excitement nor does it help advance to The Dance.

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Sounds like I'm in the minority here....this doesn't really excite me at all.

Now if they would play the games in Vegas, that would be something I would hop on board for.
Just from memory, Boise, San Diego State, UNLV, Nevada, and New Mexico have been pretty consistently good.

To a lesser extent, Air Force, Utah State, and Colorado State have had some success through the years.

Seems like Fresno State, San Jose State, and Wyoming bring up the rear.

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Buster,

I see your perspective, in some sense, it's not that grand, but it can't be any worse than playing middling SEC games. The program once had a dozen games per season with local, in-state, or regional schools and/or Midwest Catholic school rivals; but now nothing like that at all.

To that end, Beat Duquesne and hope a fan bus is chartered to visit one of the reservation areas where Elizabeth Warren has relatives at...Mountain West Here Come the Flyers.
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Remember that. Was Yuge!

wasn't there a big block or steal after that , or was that another last second game a year or two before?
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They should make Nevada play at Rhode Island in the first year of this in order to make up for Nevada bailing on their game this year at URI.
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They should make Nevada play at Rhode Island in the first year of this in order to make up for Nevada bailing on their game this year at URI.
If URI wanted to play Nevada, they shouldn't have agreed to such a low buyout. It happens all the time in college football, but games are scheduled so far in advance nobody seems to care.
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How can one forget Dyshawn Pierre rebound with one hand, pulls up one side of shorts, takes a drbible to switch hands, pulls up other side of shorts, while coming up court.

Oh, and the looks on faces of Boise State Cheerleaders, totally priceless.
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If URI wanted to play Nevada, they shouldn't have agreed to such a low buyout. It happens all the time in college football, but games are scheduled so far in advance nobody seems to care.
Last year, Nevada had a cancellation policy for some of its opponents of $100k, but only $50k for the URI game.

URI honored the game, so, sorry, but I disagree, Nevada should have honored the game at URI.

I would think that cancellation policies would only ever get used as part of buy games, not games as part of home-and-home series.

This is the first time that I have ever heard of a team reneging on a home-and-home series game.

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Remember that. Was Yuge!

wasn't there a big block or steal after that , or was that another last second game a year or two before?
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Last year, Nevada had a cancellation policy for some of its opponents of $100k, but only $50k for the URI game.

URI honored the game, so, sorry, but I disagree, Nevada should have honored the game at URI.

I would think that cancellation policies would only ever get used as part of buy games, not games as part of home-and-home series.

This is the first time that I have ever heard of a team reneging on a home-and-home series game.

https://www.rgj.com/story/sports/col...000/806706001/:


Perks: Rhode Island gets 50 complimentary tickets; refs assigned by MW; $50,000 cancellation policy
Fine, so your argument is it's not fair that Nevada did that? Again, URI agreed to that low buyout amount. Don't get me wrong, it was a d**k move, but they followed the terms of the contract. URI should have negotiated a larger buyout or gave them more incentive to not cancel.
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Kyle Davis guarding the last second shot (announcers saying it should have been a foul)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxbH9-ITbWg
That's almost entirely Gotdweeb advocating for a foul on that. If memory serves when they threw it back to the studio not one of the analysts (including Wally I want to say) agreed that it should have been called a foul.

Edit: I'm told it's actually pronounced SNOT-LIEB.
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Kyle’s defense was stellar. His arms remained straight up, even when he moved on the pump fake. On the actual “shot” attempt, Kyle maintained straight-up defense, arms vertical and no forward movement. The offensive player initiated what little contact there was. Frankly, he’d have been better off launching a shot than trying to draw a foul, which resulted in a no-chance heave.

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I remember Doug Gottlieb crying that it should have been a foul.
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That's a foul in the NBA...but nowhere else. James Harden has made a living leaning into defenders and getting that call.

I miss the old days (90s) when leaning into a defender for the sake of drawing contact was considered an offensive foul.
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Originally Posted by ud2 View Post
Last year, Nevada had a cancellation policy for some of its opponents of $100k, but only $50k for the URI game.

URI honored the game, so, sorry, but I disagree, Nevada should have honored the game at URI.

I would think that cancellation policies would only ever get used as part of buy games, not games as part of home-and-home series.

This is the first time that I have ever heard of a team reneging on a home-and-home series game.

https://www.rgj.com/story/sports/col...000/806706001/:


Perks: Rhode Island gets 50 complimentary tickets; refs assigned by MW; $50,000 cancellation policy

So when 2 people who are not compelled to commerce agree to an arms' length contract and then follow the terms of that contract, you're saying something is wrong?
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Originally Posted by redbengal View Post
That's almost entirely Gotdweeb advocating for a foul on that. If memory serves when they threw it back to the studio not one of the analysts (including Wally I want to say) agreed that it should have been called a foul.

Edit: I'm told it's actually pronounced SNOT-LIEB.
I think that Kyle actually got both feet back on the ground before the contact was what made it a non-foul.
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I miss the old days (90s) when leaning into a defender for the sake of drawing contact was considered an offensive foul.
That must've bee before Roosevelt Chapman (who copied Walt Frazier). He made a living off the lean-in.
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