BRob to play with New Orleans Hornets

[San Diego Flyer]

BRob needs to have achievement collide with luck. First the trade of Dyson, and now an injury to Austin Rivers requiring bone spurs to be extracted in a minor surgery. Every little bit helps Brian's cause:

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/82...gery-make-camp

[ballboy458]

Little birdie revealed, BRob headed down to New Orleans today to take physical and sign contract with the Hornets today!! (terms undisclosed, but possible 3 years)

Crossing fingers but that lil' birdie is usually pretty spot on..

Well deserved B-Rob..well deserved!

GO FLYERS!

[Buster Goode]

It wasn't this birdie was it?

[Gilchrist's Autograph 2]

http://www.hornets247.com/blog/2012/...oger-mason-jr/

http://www.hoopsrumors.com/2012/08/i...e-roberts.html

Despite London Warren's endorsement, Roberts still gets signed?
http://germanhoops.wordpress.com/201...brian-roberts/
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	London Warren LONDON WARREN 6-0 185lb Junior Raines, HS | Jacksonville FL Nicknamed the "Jacksonville Jet", London Warren is perhaps UD's quickest player baseline to baseline. Leader in steals defensively, he likes to push tempo on offense. Working on his shot and confidence at the charity stripe. 2007-08 | 4.3ppg 2.9rpg 2006-07 | 2.4ppg 1.7rpg

[Glen Clark]

Originally Posted by Gilchrist's Autograph 2 http://www.hornets247.com/blog/2012/...oger-mason-jr/ . . .

From the comments:

"German media reports that Brian Roberts is going to sign with the hornets!"

"Good pickup."

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Whether your glass is half full or half empty, you still have more to drink.

[udflyerhoops2]

Found this on the Hornets247.com site. Video was posted on 7/20 after a loss.

http://www.hornets247.com/blog/2012/...ak-after-game/


And an audio only clip from SoundCloud

http://soundcloud.com/neworleanshorn...-league-7-20-1

[UD Flyer for life]

I wonder how many Dayton fans will be wearing Dayton gear at Hornets games this year? I can see it now, his Hornets teammates giving him hell because he's got a crowd of Dayton Flyer Faithful cheering him while he more than likely rides the bench. But who knows? He might be intricle this season at the PG spot! Either way i'm a Hornets fan now!

	Flyer Faithful FLYER FAITHFUL Best college basketball fans in the country. Knowledgeable, enthusiastic, and loyal. Help to create one of the toughest home courts in the nation at UD Arena. Over 12,000 fans a game put the Flyers in the Top-30 nationally in attendance. Fan spirit and support growing to other UD sports and athletic programs as well.

[College B-Ball Fan]

Ballboy---any updates? Good news----any news from the birdie....

[UDaMan]

Hornets signed a 8 year veteran Roger Mason, a 3 pt shooting specialist, apparently.
http://www.nba.com/hornets/blog/free...w-orleans-8712

They aren't exactly handing BRob a roster spot.

[anthonycharles]

Originally Posted by UDaMan Hornets signed a 8 year veteran Roger Mason, a 3 pt shooting specialist, apparently. http://www.nba.com/hornets/blog/free...w-orleans-8712 They aren't exactly handing BRob a roster spot.

Mason isn't a pg. BRob will be a pg.

[Iguomaniac]

The Hornets posted an interview with BRob: http://www.nba.com/hornets/blog/cour...oberts-92612-0

If anyone has been itching to buy a jersey, he will wear #22 this season.

[Gilchrist's Autograph 2]

Chris wright (of the former Hoya variety) got a camp invite for Hornets. Some additional competition for BRob
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	Chris Wright CHRIS WRIGHT 6-8 225lb | Trotwood Madison, HS (OH) A10 All Rookie Team. Preseason 2008 2nd Team All A10. Member of the UD Flight Club with a 40+ inch vertical leap. Consensus Top-75 national recruit. Uncle is former Flyer J.D. Grigsby. Nickname is Top Flyght. CAREER STATS 2007-08 10.4ppg 5.7rpg

[Gilchrist's Autograph 2]

NBA TV tonight at 9:00 goes inside the hornets training camp
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[walkon]

Around the 50 minute mark. You will see Brob. in action

[Gilchrist's Autograph 2]

BRob with a nice assist and a 3 pointer. Played a nice 5-6 minutes in first quarter of game versus Andrew Nicholson and the Magic. He played about the whole second quarter as well with Vasquez on bench with 4 fouls and Eric Gordon not playing today. Had a couple assists and a nice drive to the hoop for two but did not shoot the three well - nobody on the team did. 5 Pts 3 assists at half.
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[walkon]

Brob leads all scorers with 17 points

[College B-Ball Fan]

We all knew he could score! Great job BRob.

[San Diego Flyer]

Check out Brian at :35, 1:40, 1:50, and the dagger that put the Hornets ahead for the first time late in the game at 2:16 (a mini-Miami dagger).

http://www.nba.com/games/20121007/OR...#nbaGIboxscore

Very solid night for Brian. Led the team in minutes (27).
Shot 3/4 from 3pt, 4/4 from the ft line, 4 rebounds, 4 assists, ZERO turnovers.


PS-one last edit. It was bound to happen, but still there was a bit of deja vu when, on that last dagger the
announcer called "Chris Wright to Brian Roberts" for the bucket.

	Chris Wright CHRIS WRIGHT 6-8 225lb | Trotwood Madison, HS (OH) A10 All Rookie Team. Preseason 2008 2nd Team All A10. Member of the UD Flight Club with a 40+ inch vertical leap. Consensus Top-75 national recruit. Uncle is former Flyer J.D. Grigsby. Nickname is Top Flyght. CAREER STATS 2007-08 10.4ppg 5.7rpg

[Gilchrist's Autograph 2]

Yes - he looked really good leading the team back from a 13 pt deficit to a win. With a team full of very young guys he looked to be the calm and collected leader. He is not really strong on defense, but is smart and quick enough to get into passing lanes and pick up some steals. And man , can he come off a screen - always knows when to shoot the jumper or take it to the rim. He got a lot of compliments from the announcers today.
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[San Diego Flyer]

Luckily for the Hornets guards, Anthony Davis will be guarding the lane. So the guards are going to have some lane help on defense. That also looked to me to be BRobs weakest area.

[DetroitFlyer]

He sure looked like an NBA player in the highlight video. Great start.

[Fan4allUDSports]

espn link for the game

http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/recap?gameId=400400469

They say what was said before, B-Rob led the team to victory.

[number21]

New Orleans Hornets defeat Orlando Magic 85-80 in preseason opener
By John Reid, The Times Picayune The Times-Picayune
on October 07, 2012 at 3:31 PM, updated October 07, 2012 at 7:26 PM Email | PrintBrought to you by
In July, Brian Roberts' stellar play on the New Orleans Hornets' summer league team earned him a roster spot for training camp. In Sunday's preseason opener in Mexico City against the Orlando Magic, Roberts showed why he might be worth keeping around for the entire season.

Roberts, a backup point guard, sparked the Hornets by scoring 12 of his game-high 17 points in the fourth quarter to lead the Hornets to an 85-80 come-from-behind victory against the Magic.

Except for No. 1 draft pick Anthony Davis forcefully blocking former Hornets forward Gustavo Ayon's shot off the backboard and grabbing five rebounds in the first quarter, the Hornets struggled to execute until the fourth quarter when they made their comeback.

The Magic opened the game on a 10-0 run and led by 16 at halftime.

In his debut game, Davis started at power forward and scored eight points and grabbed eight rebounds in 23 minutes. Fellow Hornets rookie Austin Rivers started at shooting guard and scored 10 points and had one assist in 26 minutes. As expected, shooting guard Eric Gordon did not play because of a sore right knee.

For the first three quarters, the Hornets were unable to get into a rhythm offensively. Instead of pushing the tempo, they settled for jumpers and played erratic. Starting point guard Greivis Vasquez had four fouls after the first seven minutes and finished with a team-high five turnovers and four points.


Brian Roberts drives to the basket on his way to a game-high 17 points in the Hornets' 85-80 victory over Orlando in their exhibition opener Sunday in Mexico City.
The Associated Press Forward Ryan Anderson played against the Magic for the first time since Orlando declined to match the Hornets' four-year, $36 million offer for him, before agreeing to a sign-and-trade deal in which they acquired Ayon in July.

Although Anderson led the league last season with 134 made 3-pointers, he missed eight of nine 3-point attempts Sunday and went 1-for-11 from the field before finishing with six points against his former team.

Al Farouq Aminu started at small forward, but played tentative much the same way he did most of last season after the Hornets acquired him in a trade from the Los Angeles Clippers last December. Aminu took three shots and finished with three points.

After trailing 66-54 at the end of the third quarter, the Hornets opened the fourth quarter on a 16-7 run with their backups on the floor. New Orleans' run cut the Magic's lead to 73-70 with 5:35 remaining. Hornets forward Lance Thomas' two free throws gave the Hornets' a 78-76 lead before Roberts' 3-pointer extended it to five.

Roberts quickly got the Hornets in their sets, made precise passes and looked for his shot when the Magic backed off him. Behind Roberts and forward Lance Roberts, the Hornets' bench was effective throughout the fourth quarter. Thomas scored all 10 of his points in the quarter. Backup power forward Jason Smith also had an efficient game. He had two blocks, grabbed three rebounds and scored seven points in 14 minutes.

It was the first of eight preseason games scheduled this month for the Hornets. Starting with Tuesday's home preseason opener against the Charlotte Bobcats at the New Orleans Arena, the Hornets will play three games in five days.

	Charlotte CHARLOTTE UNC Charlotte is one of a generation of universities founded in metropolitan areas of the United States immediately after World War II in response to rising education demands generated by the war and its technology. Now a research intensive university, UNC Charlotte is the fourth largest of the 16 institutions within the University of North Carolina system and the largest institution in the Charlotte region. The university comprises seven professional colleges and currently offers 18 doctoral programs, 62 master’s degree programs and 90 bachelor’s degrees. More than 900 full-time faculty comprise the university’s academic departments and the 2007 fall enrollment exceeded 22,300 students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the 49ers.

[Figgie123]

There is another thread talking about Brian Roberts, and his role on the Hornets team. And it's just a few posts down from here.

http://www.udpride.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21185

[Gazoo]

Originally Posted by San Diego Flyer Check out Brian at :35, 1:40, 1:50, and the dagger that put the Hornets ahead for the first time late in the game at 2:16 (a mini-Miami dagger). http://www.nba.com/games/20121007/OR...#nbaGIboxscore Very solid night for Brian. Led the team in minutes (27). Shot 3/4 from 3pt, 4/4 from the ft line, 4 rebounds, 4 assists, ZERO turnovers. PS-one last edit. It was bound to happen, but still there was a bit of deja vu when, on that last dagger the announcer called "Chris Wright to Brian Roberts" for the bucket.

The announcer said it put them up for the first time in the game but didn't the scoreboard at the bottom of the screen show 78-76, then he hit a 3 to make it 81-76?

[TA111]

Monty Williams, the head coach was interviewed today and had some really good things to say about Brian. He called him a scoring point guard, something that is rare in today's game. I think he has a good chance to actually start because last year's starter, Vasquez, is a pretty weak player.

[San Diego Flyer]

Originally Posted by Gazoo The announcer said it put them up for the first time in the game but didn't the scoreboard at the bottom of the screen show 78-76, then he hit a 3 to make it 81-76?

Absolutely you are correct. I saw that later. Announcer made up a great line-- Unfortunately he was wrong! Thomas tied the game, and then 30 seconds later made
two freethrows which put the Hornets ahead for the first time.

But truthfully it was Robert's three, and then Robert's two freethrows a minute later that put the game on ice.

[San Diego Flyer]

Originally Posted by TA111 Monty Williams, the head coach was interviewed today and had some really good things to say about Brian. He called him a scoring point guard, something that is rare in today's game. I think he has a good chance to actually start because last year's starter, Vasquez, is a pretty weak player.

Personally, I would rather have Robert's come off the bench. The Hornets are going to go through some growing pains this season (I would predict 20 wins tops) and I would just as soon see Brian match up with the opponent's second string guard. It's going to be hard for any Hornet to stand out this season.

[bcross]

Originally Posted by TA111 Monty Williams, the head coach was interviewed today and had some really good things to say about Brian. He called him a scoring point guard, something that is rare in today's game. I think he has a good chance to actually start because last year's starter, Vasquez, is a pretty weak player.

Eric Gordon will be the starter, assuming that he is able to stay healthy.

[anthonycharles]

I'm not so sure. Gordon is a much better NBA player at the 2 position. He isn't a very good NBA pg.

I expect Austin Rivers to be the starting pg once he recovers from his ankle surgery. If his injury lingers longer than expected, look for BRob to start. If not, I'm sure he'll be Austin's backup.

[San Diego Flyer]

I agree. Rivers pedigree is just too much to overcome. Daddy Doc, Duke, 10th in 1st round, franchise cornerstone. 6'4" point guard doesn't hurt either.

Roberts could make a lot of money as a reliable backup.

[UDF4N4LIF3]

Hornets.com 17 points in the come.from behind win. Man this guy is good!

[UDF4N4LIF3]

27 min 0 turnovers

[Fudd]

[Figgie123]

Man, this would be a great post if we didn't already have 2 other posts at the top of the Men's Basketball forum discussing Brian Roberts and his role with the New Orleans Hornets.

But, what do I know?

[Glen Clark]

Speaking of Enzos - did you see ths one?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...way-crash.html

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[Gilchrist's Autograph 2]

Vasquez, Rivers and Roberts will be the point guards on the team. Vazquez (starter last year) will probably start again, but my guess is they will try to focus on Rivers becoming the starter by the end of the year. That being said, Roberts should get plenty of playing time with a rookie that is still being groomed and a back-up type talent as the other point guard.
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[Figgie123]

Glen, it got even better, he neg-repped me with a derogatory word for a part of a male's body. If you know what I mean.

[number21]

The time you took to type your post you could have clicked out of mine.

[Figgie123]

The time you took to cut and paste that article, you could have pasted it as a new post in the thread where everyone else was discussing the game in question.

[Gazoo]

BR doesn't have to be the starter or the primary backup to be successful, he can be a guy who shows obvious skill that the team doesn't need and is thus trade bait to another team who does not have 2 PGs they like.

[bcross]

Originally Posted by anthonycharles I'm not so sure. Gordon is a much better NBA player at the 2 position. He isn't a very good NBA pg. I expect Austin Rivers to be the starting pg once he recovers from his ankle surgery. If his injury lingers longer than expected, look for BRob to start. If not, I'm sure he'll be Austin's backup.

To be clear, I'd expect Gordon/Rivers to be the starting guards. Since Rivers is already back and starting, Gordon would be replacing Vasquez in the starting lineup. I could still see Vasquez starting over Rivers, but BRob won't be starting. Which is fine. He spent 4 years in Europe working on his game to get an opportunity to just play in the NBA. He played well in his first preseason game, but it still is just one preseason game.

[Fan4allUDSports]

Not to get off track is there a way we can merge this and all of the B-Rob threads? It may make it better for all info to be gathered. Also if we do it we might be able to get everyone on the same page with all the articles out there. With the season about to get further underway we might see more of this and with four potential players underway, a title of Flyers in the NBA might help all those looking at the NBA and UD.

[426 Kiefaber]

Wow it's really great to see BRob get this chance. I'm 36, '99 grad. Great to see one of the heros of my generation get this opportunity. He worked his ass off for it and he deserves it. Fill it up BRob!!!!!!

[Canonball]

Consider it merged.

Can't wait to see BRob live against the Raptors in January!

[Gazoo]

Originally Posted by Canonball Consider it merged. Can't wait to see BRob live against the Raptors in January!

Remember when we had a moderator who used to spend his day editing people's posts to correct spelling errors and fixing sentence structure? That was disturbing in so many ways. Not sure what made me remember that, but thank goodness that period of UDP is over.

[Gilchrist's Autograph 2]

18 minutes, 6 pts and 4 ast tonight. Only 3 of 8 shooting, but it was good to see a good amount of playing time again.
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[Fudd]

Originally Posted by Gazoo Remember when we had a moderator who used to spend his day editing people's posts to correct spelling errors and fixing sentence structure? That was disturbing in so many ways. Not sure what made me remember that, but thank goodness that period of UDP is over.

I don't remember that.

[wes]

My wife is a skool teacher so she korects my speling and grammer all thre tyme. I personaly am OK with lisence plate spelling. Just so it gets the point across and is not rude crude or mean.

[Swampy Meadows]

Originally Posted by Fudd I don't remember that.

Me neither.

Now if Chris doesn't remember it, I think it is safe to say it never happened.

[UDBrian]

Originally Posted by wes My wife is a skool teacher so she korects my speling and grammer all thre tyme. I personaly am OK with lisence plate spelling. Just so it gets the point across and is not rude crude or mean.

LOL, it looks like your wife has two full time jobs

[Chris R]

Originally Posted by Swampy Meadows Me neither. Now if Chris doesn't remember it, I think it is safe to say it never happened.

I dont remember it. Wasnt done by me. Did I fire the moderator?

[rollo]

A little over 2 years ago I believe all UDPride+ members had the ability to access posts and edit them for various reasons. The reason for this I believe was because so many new posters had registered, many for one reason only...to cause trouble.

I recall editing one of the more obnoxious _avier fan's posts (Harvard? Toledodan?) at that time and being told via PM to 'stop'.

But I recall that we had the power...just not for long.

	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

[CE80]

Back on subject... just checked the NBA schedule and the 1 and only NBA game I attend this year is not until Feb. 20 NO @ Cleveland.

[Gazoo]

Originally Posted by Chris R I dont remember it. Wasnt done by me. Did I fire the moderator?

No, he just doesn't appear on the non + board anymore. He is a good cook if that gives you any hint.

[Gilchrist's Autograph 2]

Looks like another good game for Roberts. 16 Pts and 8 assists in 29 minutes of work. Lead another comeback win even though he had two turnovers late in the game. Unfortunately it does not look like Searcy, Johnson or even Wright will get any playing time this camp.
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[San Diego Flyer]

BRob is 6/7, 5 assists w/only 2 to's. Leading scorer so far.

Get this, Roberts is +12, and the rest of the Hornets roster is minus. Don't know if I've ever seen
that before.

Storybook ending as the Hornets pull it out with a big 4th quarter again 90-87. Roberts leading scorer again
with 16 + 8 assists.

[Fudd]

http://www.hornetsreport.com/HRForum...-Bobcats/page6

Quotes from the Hornets message board:

Brian Roberts is the truth mannnnnn.

ROBERTS~!!!!!

Rivers is gonna have to step his game up....Roberts going in

If Roberts can defend decently, he may give Greivis a run at the starting gig.

Lance Thomas and Brian Roberts. The two best third strings in the league.

I'm so happy for Roberts!

I'm starting to think Rivers ceiling is a taller Brian Roberts

Diamond in the rough!!! I know its only preseason and Charlotte.....but it is for the other players too.

BTW, I am LOVING what I'm seeing from Roberts. Definitely a diamond in the rough so far. Hope he can take this and run with it.

Roberts has that CLUTCH gene that Skip Bayless always talks about!

[Sea Bass]

he was +21 on the night. No other Hornet was better than +6

[Chris R]

Watching B-Rob's butter-smooth J is like reacquainting with an old friend.

[DetroitFlyer]

Maybe not just an NBA player, he might end up a star.

[Justin]

Maybe I am not trying hard enough, but are these games being streamed online at all?

Originally Posted by San Diego Flyer BRob is 6/7, 5 assists w/only 2 to's. Leading scorer so far. Get this, Roberts is +12, and the rest of the Hornets roster is minus. Don't know if I've ever seen that before. Storybook ending as the Hornets pull it out with a big 4th quarter again 90-87. Roberts leading scorer again with 16 + 8 assists.

[Fudd]

Originally Posted by Justin Maybe I am not trying hard enough, but are these games being streamed online at all?

I don't know about streaming, but I saw one of his games on the NBA channel (Direct TV).

[Fan4allUDSports]

Originally Posted by Justin Maybe I am not trying hard enough, but are these games being streamed online at all?

I've seen some audio links on websites(like ESPN Radio Philly), but nothing about streaming video.

[bigred]

Originally Posted by DetroitFlyer Maybe not just an NBA player, he might end up a star.

I gave you props for the post b/c I'd like to see him become a star. But keep in mind this is the pre-pre season. The full pre-season starts and then the regular season (playoffs). Stars aren't made in the NBA until the playoffs, and everyone knows that no one is really trying until then, which makes the "pre-season" even worse competition wise.

I'd be happy at this point if he gets significant playing time this year.

[Gilchrist's Autograph 2]

I must admit I have not followed the NBA much beyond my Cavs and Warriors last year but I noticed Gary Forbes playing for Houston Rockets tonight (against the Hornets). The former UMass forward is listed as a 6'7 220lb guard. I hated when we played against him but he was a hell of a player. Good to see him in NBA.
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	Massachusetts MASSACHUSETTS UMass Amherst, the flagship campus of the University of Massachusetts system, sits on nearly 1,450-acres in the scenic Pioneer Valley of Western Massachusetts, 90 miles from Boston and 175 miles from New York City. The campus provides a rich cultural environment in a rural setting close to major urban centers. UMass enrolls over 20,000 undergraduates and 5,000 post-grad students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Minutemen. Women's teams known as the Minutewomen. Sports achievements include NCAA Final Four appearances in men's basketball and women's soccer.

[Gilchrist's Autograph 2]

Roberts and Vasquez in game at same time tonight. Interesting. I wonder if BRob is running point or playing SG?
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[Chris R]

Ive yet to see Austin Rivers do jack squat in either the summer league or preseason. I just dont know how this love affair started. The dude cannot shoot straight. If his name was Austin Quivers from Juke University, nobody would be giving this kid the time of day based on what hes shown.

[zmz723]

Originally Posted by Chris R I just dont know how this love affair started.

Is this a serious comment? And you're an administrator on this site?

Austin Rivers was a top 5 recruit coming out of high school, and averaged 16 points per game as an 18 year old freshman at Duke. He also hit a buzzer beater 3 pointer in front of 22,000 at UNC for a Duke win.

He is unbelievably talented, but because he has a below average game or two in the PREASEASON, you're writing him off for the rest of his career.

Wow.

[zmz723]

Originally Posted by Chris R If his name was Austin Quivers from Juke University, nobody would be giving this kid the time of day based on what hes shown.

Just brutal analysis. Over and over again it has been shown if you are good enough, you will be noticed by NBA scouts. Look no further than Damian Lillard, from tiny Weber St., being drafted at #6 last year.

If Austin Rivers was at "Juke University", or Weber State, or Dayton, he would still be a lottery pick.

[Chris R]

Im quite aware of what Rivers did in college. Im aware he scored 16ppg. Im also aware he was a turnover machine, mediocre jumpshooter, and a lousy FT shooter at Duke. Im also aware that Michael Olowokandi was drafted #1. The NBA drafts on projection. They are projecting Rivers' future potential. Right now however, he's mediocre at the NBA level. Perhaps in a year or two he will be all world, but he's done next to nothing in the summer league and preseason to impress anybody, yet the slobbering love continues.

Nobody is writing the kid off the rest of his life. Im talking about the Austin Rivers PR machine. Doesnt hurt that his old man is coaching the Celts to further insulate him. The kid went like 1-9 with 6 turnovers in one of the summer league games and the announcers couldnt stop talking about how good he was. In fact I remember one series fondly. He sliced down the lane, drove to the hoop -- and missed the layup. The announcers couldnt stop talking about his amazing first-step. Were that Roberts, they'd have critiqued his inability to finish a bunny.

It was a Rivers orgy -- all the while Roberts was scoring about 18 points with 6-7 assists and 1 turnover right in front of their faces and they had almost nothing to say. You get that latitude at Duke. You dont get that latitude at Weber State or Dayton. If you stink, nobody's talkin'.

[zmz723]

He's played 3 preseason games. These games mean nothing.

Derrick Rose had a terrible rookie preseason, and he ended up wining rookie of the year and MVP 2 seasons later.

[Buckleyma]

Brian Roberts is a lion who will and can carry a team in the clutch. I remember watching him play Pitt and he challenged the guy guarding him. We needed a bucket and he took the role and the responsibility to make it happen? The best lion, I ever saw at Dayton was JIM PAXSON. In the crunch, on several occasions, I saw him take over a game to get the victory.

[Swampy Meadows]

Originally Posted by Chris R I'm talking about the Austin Rivers PR machine. Doesnt hurt that his old man is coaching the Celts to further insulate him.

For the record, there was great relief on the Celtics MBs when Austin Rivers was drafted by New Orleans before the Celtics got to their two picks. Fans knew he had been hyped beyond reason.

[San Diego Flyer]

New Orleans has to hype Rivers and Davis to sell tickets at home and on the road. My first thought was a 20 win season, but upon further review this preseason I would go with 17.

Rivers is just plain lost right now in an NBA uniform. Great temporary opportunity for our guy.

Similar scenario for CJ Miles out of a Dallas highschool signing with Utah a few years back. Miles was lost for years in the NBA. I predict Rivers will be on IR a lot just trying too hard to live up to the hype in the 30+ minutes he gets. Stay ready Brian.

[MikeF]

Originally Posted by Chris R If his name was Austin Quivers from Juke University, nobody would be giving this kid the time of day based on what hes shown.

I don't know, a quick-stepped point guard from Juke University would probably be pretty special. Well, either pretty special or a star on an And-1 tour.

[Canonball]

My take on Austin Rivers in college was that unlike the vast majority of Duke players (and teams) he never understood that it was about the team, not about the player. Just my impression, but obviously coach K was willing to play him quite a bit. Take the small sample from this year that we have. River's had one game out of 4 where he had better than 1 assist (he had 3) .... and he hasn't scored well at all despite shooting a lot. As a SG his numbers are awful out of the gate, and as a PG his numbers are awful out of the gate. Not sure how they actually intend to use him as he's listed sort of as both.

BRob on the other hand is distributing the ball regardless if he's scoring/shooting well (really he's only had one off night shooting). He's had 4, 4, 8, 4 assists respectively, has scored, and has been clutch. Exactly what the man was while at UD.

Unfortunately NOLA is rebuilding and is pretty much going to get as much time as they can with their rookies regardless of the outcome on the court. That team isn't ready to compete in the west yet and they have to see what they have in Rivers because they've invested a lot of money. He's only a year away from having lived at home with mom and dad, and the dude can't even legally purchase a beer yet. He may come around in time but so far this year he looks unprepared for the challenges coming at him.

[Sea Bass]

My take on Rivers is that he was what used to be called a "ball hog". He wanted the ball and was interested in hunting his own shot, not setting up his teammates. On defense he didn't play the kind of perimeter D that coach K is used to getting from his guards.

Rivers has a lot of talent and natural athletic ability. His problem is going to be, as it was pointed out above, that there is no "I" in team and that there is a lot more to basketball than dribbling and chucking shots. He may well figure it out but IMO he is not a sure bet.

[Fudd]

Rivers has a much higher ceiling than BRob as far as defense goes, IMO. He is bigger, stronger and more athletic. But BRob is a seasoned pro, and we all know he is Mr. Clutch. He is much more disciplined at this point in his career and shoots the 3 so well without being streaky. His pg skills are just enough to get by in the NBA. His offensive/scoring ability is what gets him serious consideration in the NBA and gets him on the court.

[Gilchrist's Autograph 2]

Absolutely awful game for Roberts and the Hornets through 3 quarters. The only one who showed up today is Anthony Davis 17 Pts 7 reb. Nobody else can find the rim. Roberts is 1-8 and even missed a free throw
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[San Diego Flyer]

Roberts definitely is off tonight. Rivers is now under 29% for the pre-season. Oh that's right pre-season doesn't count. Really.

[Gilchrist's Autograph 2]

Ended up with 10 Pts, 3ast, and 5reb on 4-11 shooting. The good news is he played 31 minutes. All the other Hornets guards combined were 4-22, so I guess he held his own.
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[Gazoo]

Originally Posted by Gilchrist's Autograph 2 . . . 4-11 shooting. . . All the other Hornets guards combined were 4-22 Posted via Mobile Device

Was he twice as good or half as bad?

[Gilchrist's Autograph 2]

22 min. 7 Pts. 3 reb. 2 assists.
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[Glen Clark]

Originally Posted by Gilchrist's Autograph 2 22 min. 7 Pts. 3 reb. 2 assists. Posted via Mobile Device

Austin Rivers injured, X-rays negative:

http://espn.go.com/nba/recap?id=400400549

___________________
Whether your glass is half empty or half full, you still have more to drink.

[Fan4allUDSports]

Originally Posted by Glen Clark Austin Rivers injured, X-rays negative: http://espn.go.com/nba/recap?id=400400549 ___________________ Whether your glass is half empty or half full, you still have more to drink.

Interesting. Could we potentially see B-Rob start a game? Outside of CW's start last year, the last time a Flyer started a NBA game was March 15, 1995. Detroit at Los Angeles(Clippers). Going to be very fun watching B-Rob this year if he can get a couple starts. Hopefully he gets to go up against CW, DS, or CJ. Just an FYI, the last time two Flyers opposed each other in the NBA was when Sedic Toney and Jim Paxson squared off on November 10, 1989. Game log included.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...911100BOS.html

[Buckleyma]

Everyone,

I attended the Dallas Maverick vs. New Orleans Hornets pre-season game this evening. Brian Roberts played in both halves. He did not start. He played with leadership and maturity. He always made the right passs. He was always in the right place on the floor on both offense and defense. He made a couple shots. He missed a couple shots. All of his passes except one that was too low and bounced off a "bigs" toes were solid good passes.

Austin Rivers (the starting point guard) got hurt on a play of his own doing. He was under the basket trying for a shot and just landing wrong. I did not see him get bumped or any such thing. I noticed that his fellow team mates showed very little interest or concern when he crumpled to the ground, writhing in pain and was partially carried off; not placing any weight on his right leg. Perhaps, as a rookie there has not been any time to develop team spirit.

[San Diego Flyer]

Didn't get to see the second half, but thought the first half was pitiful Hornets basketball even by NBA standards. It looked like an NBADL game. It's no surprise that the team would show ambivalence toward an injured Rivers. The Hornets are trying to sell tickets, so as a consequence Davis and Rivers are front and center on every puff article they publish, and the first names off the lips of every media talking head. Unfortunately Rivers has shown nothing to make his teammates believe he is the real deal. His shooting average for the season is pushing 25% now. But at least he shoots a lot.

All this makes Roberts look like the mature player that he is. If Brian can stay healthy, there is every reason for him to get mucho minutes and further his brand as a quality backup pg in the NBA.

[number21]

I always thought Rivers was all about himself. He forces everything. I got a feeling if you had coach K drink truth serum and ask him if he is relieved the kid went pro he would say yes. Rivers will probably end up allright but I have seen nothing so far that says he will be a star in the league.

He will be afforded a lot more opportunities than BRob because of the investment and the fact that they are trying to sell tix for the future of the franchise.

[San Diego Flyer]

Interesting comment from the Mavs announcer last night. "Dirk Nowitski has the utmost respect for Brian Roberts." Say what!? "Dirk is very much aware that Brian was a key player in 3 straight German Basketball League Championships".

Thank you Dirkster.

[DetroitFlyer]

Brian now seems to have the skills to be a very good NBA player. I will not be suprised if he has a very productive NBA career.

[shapanud]

Roberts named one of the 15 biggest surprises of the NBA preseason by hoopsworld.com NBA writer Mike Kennedy:

http://www.hoopsworld.com/nba-presea...est-surprises/

"...He’s taken an unconventional route to the NBA, but he’s making the most of his opportunity and has been one of the pleasant surprises of the preseason."

[Justin]

Hi All,

Please let me know if this is a repost:

http://www.nba.com/hornets/blog/robe...orleans-101012

http://www.nba.com/hornets/blog/cour...oberts-92612-0

No new information, but a great article about a great Flyer!

[San Diego Flyer]

Time for someone to resurrect the clip of the Miami dagger that Robert's hit to win the game at Millett Hall!!! Thought I saved it but can't find it.

Please.

[momszer]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNro_h4na4o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzRtr7YQJRk

[San Diego Flyer]

I needed that boost after the bad news today. I swear it gives me goose bumps to this day watching that comeback.

Robert was the man back then, and he's baaaack!!

[pmcmullen]

Originally Posted by momszer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNro_h4na4o http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzRtr7YQJRk

Wrong board. This should be posted on the New Orleans one!

I always said, if I were playing late in a close game, he's the last player I want on the other team. Not much better if it was just a BIG game. Just ask Pitt...

[shapanud]

Hornets play at 8pm tonight on NBA TV.

With Austin Rivers and Eric Gordon out, Roberts could get a lot of playing time tonight.

Interesting comments from HC Monty Williams today when asked if Roberts could get more time at the 2 considering how shorthanded the Hornets are at that position because of injury:

"Monty Williams was asked if he will consider allowing Brian Roberts (8-for-20 three-point shooting in preseason) to play some shooting guard, but Williams said he wants Roberts to focus on his time at the 1."

http://www.nba.com/hornets/blog/shoo...rockets-102412

Update: Pre-game notes on Hornets website say that Roberts will start tonight at PG.

[San Diego Flyer]

Any word on how serious Austin River's injury is? Looked pretty bad.

[Gilchrist's Autograph 2]

He did not start but split minutes with Vasquez and ended up playing 16 minutes with 9 Pts and 3 Ast on 3-7 shooting (+ 2 FTs)
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