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I'm obviously pre-mature on this, but IIRC, UD does have 1 scholarship open for next season (unless the re-up Bobbi's scholarship for an additional season) so it stands to reason that Archie will have his eyes open looking for potential spring signees or transfers. Its a tad bit early for most transfers to be announced, but an intriguing one announced today:
http://collegebasketballtalk.nbcspor...will-transfer/
I have no idea about this kid, a highly recruited kid out of Simeon so I assume he knows Pollard and played with him a bit. Never scored much, saw something about removing a benign tumor on his knee heading into his sophomore season. Doesn't seem like a natural fit as he'd fill similar shoes from a size perspective as Pollard, X & Mikesell, but could be a possibility, would only have 1 season left after sitting out a year if he goes D1. No idea about his skill set or attitude after 3 years in college, but figured I'd get a thread going that could be added to in the coming weeks/months.
Although part of me really hopes Bobbi gets rewarded with a 'ship for next season. I know he sometimes looks overmatched and like a "walkon" out there, but he's saved UD's butts on more than 1 occasion this summer, obviously works hard and I doubt he's going to be stealing anything from someone's dorm room any time soon.
anyhoo, feel free to add to the list as more names pop up or when UD gets mentioned amongst the possibilities of some kids in the coming weeks.
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I am of the opinion that Bobby W was told the scholarship was for this year only
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In the Feb 27th USA Today article over on the "Archie on Staying at UD" thread, Archie said Bobby would not be on scholarship next year.
UD did not have to offer him the scholarship this year -- but they did and he deserved it under the circumstances. I think all parties were served well and the University/coaching staff did a very good thing.
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Given what was said about BW and no scholarship next year, I think Archie has someone in mind.
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Taylor would have to sit a year, and as you pointed out , is in the same mold as three we have coming in next year. I hope Archie finds a grad student, who can play right away and contribute, or a stud.
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Perhaps this discussion would be best left for the off season. Nevertheless , think we would be best served in looking for a real big . No guarantee Big Steve is the genuine article, and we need a rIm protector much more than another wing.
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Archie has indicated that he is looking for another big. By big I mean 6'10" or so big.
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Originally Posted by maddog07
Perhaps this discussion would be best left for the off season. Nevertheless , think we would be best served in looking for a real big . No guarantee Big Steve is the genuine article, and we need a rIm protector much more than another wing.
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Certainly no guarantee with any player coming out of high school, but, if Archie recruited him, I think there is a good chance he is for real. With that said, there is always room for 2 or 3 bigs.
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We have seen our share of 6'10" plus guys, who we neutralize with our smaller lineup. Only the really good ones may be worth playing in Archie's system. Steve may be that guy, but he will not be able to play 40 minutes. We need a big next year or the following year in order to push to the final four.
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Originally Posted by Bill McPeek
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Came right from Archie's mouth, I heard it.
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Originally Posted by maddog07
Perhaps this discussion would be best left for the off season. Nevertheless , think we would be best served in looking for a real big . No guarantee Big Steve is the genuine article, and we need a rIm protector much more than another wing.
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Originally Posted by jack72
We have seen our share of 6'10" plus guys, who we neutralize with our smaller lineup. Only the really good ones may be worth playing in Archie's system. Steve may be that guy, but he will not be able to play 40 minutes. We need a big next year or the following year in order to push to the final four.
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I think you meant our 'shorter lineup' KP is weighing in with most 5's I would say. I think Steve can be lesser in areas of his game as long as he can run on the break for big spurts. Remember when we were 'big' and lost to Arky? I'd take our chances now because all our defenders get back and get out on the break. Wouldn't you, Jack?
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But you know the more I think about it. We aren't this good because we morphed into this giant killer, we just got the opportunity to get our best players all the minutes. Neither big was as good as the player that replaced them. By far. But we are a smarter team now, plain and simple. It's magic, I'm convinced.
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Well Jordan Sibert could have been a Flyer the first time around too, and that worked out quite well for his last two seasons.
I do not even know if we had recruited Jordan out of high school. But Maverick coming home, much like Jordan, could be a great thing.
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I don't think I want another Frosh coming in. That really unbalances the classes. A transfer with 2 years eligibility would be good to give us Darrel Davis and another player graduating that year, or go with a senior transfer or pocket it and give us 3 open after next year.
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Originally Posted by TA111
Archie has indicated that he is looking for another big. By big I mean 6'10" or so big.
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UD may never talk to College of Southern Idaho again after this last year, but CSI has a 6'10" guy who is a beast, and I believe D-1 elegible after his one year here. He was going to Oregon, but didn't meet their entrance requirements. Then was recruited by numerous BIG schools, but ended up in Twin Falls, Idaho instead. (Of course. Why wouldn't he?) I understand Kentucky is after him now.
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Remember when we were 'big' and lost to Arky?
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We may have beaten Arkansas if our "bigs" spent more time learning Archie's game schemes and less time planning their own.
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We may have beaten Arkansas if our "bigs" spent more time learning Archie's game schemes and less time planning their own.
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Originally Posted by ClaytonFlyerFan
Well Jordan Sibert could have been a Flyer the first time around too, and that worked out quite well for his last two seasons.
I do not even know if we had recruited Jordan out of high school. But Maverick coming home, much like Jordan, could be a great thing.
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Sibert had a ton of upside based upon his high school career. Morgan is a big guy but does he really have that much upside? If Archie believes so I will be happy but otherwise I'm not sure we need someone who doesn't currently get minutes.
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Is he leaving Illinois?
Would have to sit out a year. Is he any good? Scored fewer points than Devon Scott, and he went on the lamb early in our season.
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Syracuse sophomores B.J. Johnson and Ron Patterson are transferring.
Patterson is a 6'2" guard from Indianpolis and his AAU coach said he would like to move to a school closer to home. He average 2.6 points and 1.7 assists last year.
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Originally Posted by shapanud
Syracuse sophomores B.J. Johnson and Ron Patterson are transferring.
Patterson is a 6'2" guard from Indianpolis and his AAU coach said he would like to move to a school closer to home. He average 2.6 points and 1.7 assists last year.
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I am surprised anyplayer would stay at Syr given the next few years of sanctions.
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I am surprised any player would stay at Syr given the next few years of sanctions.
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No ban on postseason play so it really won't hurt the players that are there.
After next year they are allowed 10 scholarships instead of 13 for the next four years, so losing these two will actually help them get down to 10 by then.
In a strange way it might actually be a recruiting tool: "Hey, at least you know you will get playing time since at most we will have 10 players!"
Also some limitations on off campus recruiting, but again that won't hurt the current players.
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Originally Posted by UDBrian
Sibert had a ton of upside based upon his high school career. Morgan is a big guy but does he really have that much upside? If Archie believes so I will be happy but otherwise I'm not sure we need someone who doesn't currently get minutes.
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I agree Sibert was very highly regarded coming out of high school, but Morgan was offered by no less than 15 schools I see doing a quick google search, including OSU, Virginia, Iowa State, and many more quality D1 programs. He was no slouch.
Through their first two seasons, Morgan has scored 131 points with 91 rebounds and 6 assists in 8 minutes per game average, while Sibert scored 123 points with 45 rebounds and 32 assists in just under 10 minutes per game. I call that pretty much a draw when comparing stat lines.
I have yet to see many other 6'10 guys knocking on Archies door, so if indeed Archie has any interest, I say we welcome Maverick back to his home town.
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Originally Posted by ClaytonFlyerFan
I agree Sibert was very highly regarded coming out of high school, but Morgan was offered by no less than 15 schools I see doing a quick google search, including OSU, Virginia, Iowa State, and many more quality D1 programs. He was no slouch.
Through their first two seasons, Morgan has scored 131 points with 91 rebounds and 6 assists in 8 minutes per game average, while Sibert scored 123 points with 45 rebounds and 32 assists in just under 10 minutes per game. I call that pretty much a draw when comparing stat lines.
I have yet to see many other 6'10 guys knocking on Archies door, so if indeed Archie has any interest, I say we welcome Maverick back to his home town.
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Sibert played limited minutes on a team that won the Big10 and went to the Final Four.
Morgan played limited minutes on a team that finished 8th in the Big10 and lost by 21 in the first round of the NIT to a team without a coach.
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Do some of you really think that Archie would turn away a guy he recruited hard but ended up in the Big10? If a 6'10" guy from a major program knocked on our door, you think Archie won't answer? I would bet a night with the BSU cheerleading squad that Archie would welcome him if he showed interest.
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I had suggested about six weeks ago on the board the possibility of Maverick Morgan leaving the Illini. I think there was a lot of skepticism at the time, as some indicated he would never leave the Big 10 for UD. I am really thinking this could happen. Morgan is getting pitifully few minutes at Illinois and is not developing his game. I think he could flourish with one year of red-shirting and two years of play under Archie. Morgan could certainly see how Jordan Sibert has "blown up" under Archie. I wouldn't rule this out. He may indeed become a Flyer as I postulated back in January.
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I believe Morgan's parents no longer live in Springboro (or the area), so the hometown appeal may or may not remain as much as before.
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Not Dayton related but A10 related
Brian Hank Haenchen @Brian_Haenchen 14h14 hours ago
So today # SLU has lost Tanner Lancona & Austin McBroom. One's from LA source (FWIW: his dad RT'd it), other is straight from horse's mouth
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Brian Hank Haenchen @Brian_Haenchen 14h14 hours ago
So today #SLU has lost Tanner Lancona & Austin McBroom. One's from LA source (FWIW: his dad RT'd it), other is straight from horse's mouth
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I wonder if McBroom graduated and eligible right away if he transfers. It seemed he got passed over for playing time this past season.
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In Illinois' last 4 games, Morgan played 5 minutes with 2 points, including 2 games where he didn't play.
In those same games, his competition for the starting center position next season played in all 4 games, 28 minutes total, but scored only 3 pts.
Both will be juniors and neither has stats that say anything more than 'I'm a back-up'.
That doesn't mean he'll leave...nor does it mean he'd be our next savior. But after 2 seasons on the Illinois bench, he has to be itching for some serious playing time.
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All the local schools were on/offered Patterson...Cincinnati, Xavier, Ohio State, Indiana, Illinois, Michigan, Minnesota, Purdue...DePaul, SMU, Villanova, Virginia Tech, Tennessee, Marquette, and Kansas State also.
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I had suggested about six weeks ago on the board the possibility of Maverick Morgan leaving the Illini. I think there was a lot of skepticism at the time, as some indicated he would never leave the Big 10 for UD. I am really thinking this could happen. Morgan is getting pitifully few minutes at Illinois and is not developing his game. I think he could flourish with one year of red-shirting and two years of play under Archie. Morgan could certainly see how Jordan Sibert has "blown up" under Archie. I wouldn't rule this out. He may indeed become a Flyer as I postulated back in January.
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We were extremely interested and he knew it! Wish he would have stayed at UD but now that he is gone----good riddance IMHO!
It's clear based upon our current situation and his------team, playing time and all that he may "need" a change-----more than we "need" to make one (by adding him to our roster).
Archie is a great coach and sure seems to be a very good teacher and recruiter! Morgan had his chance to play on our court and chose to sit the bench in the big 10. To Bad!
Again, only my 2 cents----
PS...at this point Morgan might be a little surprised if he "called home" at this point in his "career"...
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IlliniNation has a drinking game for fans watching on TV...on of the rules is:
"Maverick Morgan or Austin Colbert checks into the game. Drink 1 for each. Drink 1 for every point or foul either player has."
Not very complimentary.
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Originally Posted by College B-Ball Fan
We were extremely interested and he knew it! Wish he would have stayed at UD but now that he is gone----good riddance IMHO!
It's clear based upon our current situation and his------team, playing time and all that he may "need" a change-----more than we "need" to make one (by adding him to our roster).
Archie is a great coach and sure seems to be a very good teacher and recruiter! Morgan had his chance to play on our court and chose to sit the bench in the big 10. To Bad!
Again, only my 2 cents----
PS...at this point Morgan might be a little surprised if he "called home" at this point in his "career"...
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Just curious, is this the same thoughts you had/have about Sibert? Because it's almost the exact same scenario.
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As most of us say, big guys take time. If Archie thinks Morgan is the best we can get, I am all for it. Two years banging with big guys, and a year to sit, may make him pretty decent, especially if he can play D.
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Just curious, is this the same thoughts you had/have about Sibert? Because it's almost the exact same scenario.
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Not really the same. Sibert is from Cincinnati so his "hometown" teams would be X and UC, not UD. Morgan is from Springboro and he attended UD games so his hometown team is definitely UD. If Sibert had transferred to X or UC it would have been the same. But if Archie wants Morgan I would be glad to have him.
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A couple of things to consider when it comes to Marverick, well actually 3.
Has it been announced anywhere that he's transferring, or are there rumors anywhere but this board that he's transferring? In other words are we wasting our breath (or fingers I guess) contemplating the possibility?
anyhoo, 1) Archie is close to John Groce, so if there are big red flags, Archie should be given a heads up, in terms of attitude, desire, if the big kid just needs a change of scenery and a different environment, or if he's just taking up space until he graduates.
2) Archie got a chance to see him up close and personal in the not quite so secret pre-season scrimmage. While its only 1 practice/game type setting, it at least gives his eyes a chance to see how the kid works in practice, accepts coaching, etc...
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I wonder if McBroom graduated and eligible right away if he transfers. It seemed he got passed over for playing time this past season.
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McBroom is not someone our program should be interested - not as player or a person.
I don't believe he has graduated. Pretty sure he's listed as junior, both academically and playing eligibility.
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When Morgan decided on Illiniois instead of UD he said it was predominately because he was thinking about his career after bball. So, I would interpret that as meaning he was expecting the Illinois alumni to take care of him after his playing days. The other possibility is that they offered a major which UD didn't offer
I will trust archie but my gut feeling is that morgan won't be coming here based upon his previous comments
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Malik dime and the kid from Rogers program in Idaho are the only two Juno bigs I can recall having been mentioned.
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All of this winning is going to raise the profile of the program...more and more recruits and transfers will have UD on their radar if they didn't already have UD on their radar before.
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Just curious, is this the same thoughts you had/have about Sibert? Because it's almost the exact same scenario.
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Honestly, thought Sibert was from Cincy and I knew nothing of his recruitment at the time "IF" the Dayton Flyers were recruiting him real hard from the city of Cincy to play here. If we were recruiting him to play his college bball at UD---he would have been recruited to UD at that point by the previous staff.
We've recruited a lot of Cincy kids over the years-----few----have chosen to play for the Flyers. If a kid is from Cincy and get's offers from UC, X or tOSU (as an Ohio kid) that seems to be the way it often has gone with the kids choosing one of those schools instead of our flyers!
I understand why kids from Cincy (who grew up watching UC/X games) playing in open gyms at X/UC, playing in high school tournaments in those college gyms, etc. and then getting heavily recruited by those two or three schools do ultimately chose them over UD-----if they are from Cincy, OHIO!.
Where did Morgan play his tournament games, play in open gyms on occasion (I would guess he was asked to do so by UD coaches, etc?)
Not at Xavier!
Sorry, don't see these 2 situations in the quite the same way as you evidently do.......
Cincy isn't a Dayton suburb and Spriongboro is a Dayton suburb!
An Ohio kid choosing tOSU over a more local university be it UC/X/ or UD-----I hate it----but I "get it".
Illinios ain't tOSU to any Ohio kids I've known over the past 50+ years?
If my memory serves me correctly Morgan grew up watching Flyers games with his parents. (I could be wrong). WE were on him real early and heavily, heavily invested------he knew it and he chose Illinois!
Further, when Sibert was looking to leave tOSU, I thought he already had a solid relationship with Archie----because maybe Archie had recruited him or been involved in his recruitment while on Matta's staff at tOSU. They "knew" each other (I thought)!
Archie when he got here "needed" top 50 players to "buy in", and Sibert needed a better situation---closer to Cincy (and as an added bonus) Sibert's brother PLAYED at UD (again I think)? There was a "need" for Jordan at his position, etc.
None of that sounds even remotely "similar" to what I can think of or remember with regard to Morgans current or past situation? Right----
We already have a red shirted 6 10 player who knows our system with 4 years of eligibility, etc. UD is invested in & most importantly we were in the elite 8 last year------won two additional games in the NCAA tournament THIS past week? Jordan came from a similar culture at tOSU despite getting little playing time-------Maverick the past week(s)?
Was Illinois a "bad choice"-------I don't know, you'd have to ask Maverick? But not sure why UD should give the kid the same kind of a look they did round # 1?
Sorry, don't see these two as "exact" scenario's!
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I have no idea how Morgan would fit at UD, how he has progressed etc.
But I am really not sure that a big who has to sit a year is the answer. They need someone who can play.
Steve is not enough, and small ball was great. But as the season wore on, and in the NCAA, it was an issue. The physical pounding took a toll on Pierre and Pollard.
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a fifth year transfer would be ideal.
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Do you remember that long ago period when this sort of thread was full of comments like "players should stay for 4 years"? Like, about 2 years ago? This is just another part of the game (not the game of basketball) now.
It seems to me Archie clearly gets this and is playing the game well so far, with room for improvement.
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Eric Paschall, the A-10 Rookie of the year, has been allowed to explore transferring to another school.
http://nypost.com/2015/03/23/fordham...g-to-transfer/
This doesn't surprise. At our Fordham game this year I met Eric's father and had a very nice conversation with him. I asked him about Jon Severe who had just recently returned to the Fordham team after leaving in November. Mr. Paschall reply to my question... "What's up with Severe" was "Headcase". He then went on to to say, and I am paraphrasing, that the team lacked discipline and the coach had no control allowing the players to do whatever they wanted. I was a little taken back by the harshness of his statements considering they were coming from a freshman's father. He then added that he told his son to avoid controversy keep his nose clean, etc., etc., after all he was getting a free education from Fordham worth a lot of money and don't "screw it up." I would have posted this earlier but I felt at the time it would be inappropriate to do so.
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Jeff Goodman @GoodmanESPN 5m5 minutes ago
Providence forward Tyler Harris is transferring, school announces.
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Harris' numbers were all down this past season compared to his sophomore season:
http://espn.go.com/mens-college-bask...8/tyler-harris
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6'9 223, averaged 10 and 4 this year, 5th year transfer, started out at NCSU, transferred to PC after one year, sat out a year, just what UD needs.
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6'9 233, averaged 10 and 4 this year, 5th year transfer, started out at NCSU, transferred to PC after one year, sat out a year, just what UD needs.
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Looks like he could be a solid contributor off the bench, but he will no doubt be transferring for MORE playing time not less. He'll never pick UD.
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Harris would get to shoot at UD, and he is not used to that at Providence. If he averaged 10 at PC, that is impressive with the two shooters they had.
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George Washington also losing freshman wing Darian Bryant via transfer - along with Nick Griffin.
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Looks like he could be a solid contributor off the bench, but he will no doubt be transferring for MORE playing time not less. He'll never pick UD.
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Would be kind of like Justin Martin transferring from Xavier to a pretty loaded SMU team for his senior year...
All I know is Dayton liked Harris enough to bring him on campus a couple years back when he initially transferred from NC State. At that time he was looking at Providence, Dayton, Temple, UAB and USF.
Who knows... maybe he's an "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em" kind of guy, and really wants to come to Dayton?
One thing is for sure, this guy really likes to transfer. Thread from a couple years back on Tyler Harris: http://www.udpride.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21122
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silly season is here
The happy guy is leaving UMass
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Tyler Harris from Providence graduating and transferring. 6"9"
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Another former target, Matthew Attewe, announced he will transfer.
Canadian kid, who knows Dyshawn, and plays center. At one time he had a good relationship with Kevin Kuwik and Archie:
http://www.udpride.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21459
Might be a fit, except he's basically only got one leg:
http://www.al.com/auburnbasketball/i...matthew_a.html
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Eric Paschall, the A-10 Rookie of the year, has been allowed to explore transferring to another school.
http://nypost.com/2015/03/23/fordham...g-to-transfer/
This doesn't surprise. At our Fordham game this year I met Eric's father and had a very nice conversation with him. I asked him about Jon Severe who had just recently returned to the Fordham team after leaving in November. Mr. Paschall reply to my question... "What's up with Severe" was "Headcase". He then went on to to say, and I am paraphrasing, that the team lacked discipline and the coach had no control allowing the players to do whatever they wanted. I was a little taken back by the harshness of his statements considering they were coming from a freshman's father. He then added that he told his son to avoid controversy keep his nose clean, etc., etc., after all he was getting a free education from Fordham worth a lot of money and don't "screw it up." I would have posted this earlier but I felt at the time it would be inappropriate to do so.
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Fordham had the talent to win many more games. Insiders told me that Pecora would lose his job mid way through the season for exactly the reason that Paschall's father said.
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No sooner said, than done:
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The NCAA put out a statement that AFTER this year, they will be putting an end to the immediate eligibility grad transfer waiver.
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That is good. They also need to end the transfer and play immediately due to hardship. It is a farce in most cases.
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Right. The purpose is to allow a kid to move home and continue playing if his mom has been diagnosed with cancer. That is totally reasonable. But that is not what it's become obviously.
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I may be in the minority but I like the immediate eligibility for grad transfers. If a kid goes to the school and puts in the time and effort to be a legitimate student athlete by graduating, it seems fair to me that upon graduation that student athlete can make a decision as to what is best for his or her future.
I cannot imagine anyone would think it fair to tell a graduating student with an academic scholarship that they cannot accept offers from other institutions to continue their education.
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I may be in the minority but I like the immediate eligibility for grad transfers. If a kid goes to the school and puts in the time and effort to be a legitimate student athlete by graduating, it seems fair to me that upon graduation that student athlete can make a decision as to what is best for his or her future.
I cannot imagine anyone would think it fair to tell a graduating student with an academic scholarship that they cannot accept offers from other institutions to continue their education.
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If the NCAA just gave an athlete 6 years to exhaust eligibility, then a kid who graduated but still had a year of eligibility left could transfer, sit a year, and get two years of grad school paid for.
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While I agree in principal, the problem is that it is abuse to the nth degree. For every kid that legitimately uses that graduate transfer option as a course to obtaining their graduate degree at another institution, there's like 5 kids that essentially drop out of grad school 2nd semester and are there only to play basketball. I forget where I saw the stat, but its was not so shockingly high the number of kids under that scenario to don't finish their graduate degree.
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I may be in the minority but I like the immediate eligibility for grad transfers. If a kid goes to the school and puts in the time and effort to be a legitimate student athlete by graduating, it seems fair to me that upon graduation that student athlete can make a decision as to what is best for his or her future.
I cannot imagine anyone would think it fair to tell a graduating student with an academic scholarship that they cannot accept offers from other institutions to continue their education.
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Why should there be a distinction between grad and undergrad? Why not let them a kid transfer at any point without sitting out a year?
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Why should there be a distinction between grad and undergrad? Why not let them a kid transfer at any point without sitting out a year?
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Why should there be a distinction between grad and undergrad? Why not let them a kid transfer at any point without sitting out a year?
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By the way, I wouldn't be opposed to Jaren Sina, from Seton Hall, who has to sit a year, then has two years left. PG isn't a huge need, but when Scoochie graduates, it would be nice to have a senior PG to complement a sophomore Crosby.
Mentioning it because A10 schools are said to be involved. Dayton not named specifically, but Dayton coaches haven't had a lot of time to get involved with folks so it's possible I suppose:
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Good, I have never liked that rule...totally unfair to a program for a player to be allowed to bail on the program before his final year of eligibility without having to sit out a year.
I think you should only be allowed to transfer once in your career...I'm not a fan of players transferring once and then transferring again under the 5th year rule... seems like that is an abuse of the rules.
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I think you should only be allowed to transfer once in your career...I'm not a fan of players transferring once and then transferring again under the 5th year rule... seems like that is an abuse of the rules.
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I agree with that 100%. I would have less of a problem with the 5th year rule, if guys weren't double transferring. One transfer from D1 to D1. If you want to transfer a 2nd time and keep playing, your only option should be to move down a level.
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Statement from IU says he is looking for more playing time and looking to go closer to home. I guess Dayton is closer to Landover, Maryland than Bloomington, but I doubt that is what he has in mind.
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Statement from IU says he is looking for more playing time and looking to go closer to home. I guess Dayton is closer to Landover, Maryland than Bloomington, but I doubt that is what he has in mind.
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I believe Robinson got popped for a fake ID, underage drinking and failed a drug test in his time at IU. Nothing too out of the ordinary for a college kid, but I doubt Archie is interested.
ANOTHER POSSIBLE TARGET: CONNOR MACDOUGALL
The number 14th-ranked center in the class of 2014, 107th overall, is leaving Arizona State now that Herb Sendek (Archie's former coach) was told to pack his bags. He only appeared in 6 games and did next to nothing before having season-ending shoulder surgery. Three years of eligibility left. Perhaps Herb would steer him to Archie.
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I believe we have 3 open scholoarships for next yr:
Under Scholly: Pierre, Schooch, KD, Pollard, Cooke, Davis, Big Steve, Crosby, Sam Miller, X Williams.
Openings: Detwon leaving, Wherli goes back to walk on, and I thought I heard that Mikesell was on a baseball scholarship
I would like to see at least 2/3 openings for the class of 2016. Bring in a grad transfer, and maybe a transfer that has to sit out 1 yr. We already have Landers committed in 2016 so I would still like to see Miller recruit 2016 kids with the momentum we deveoped this yr. Plus ohio is loaded in the class of 2016
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Anybody going to Wayne vs St ED State semifinal game? Wayne has the 2 UD commits (Williams and Landers) along with several other D1 prospects. I heard there is some 6'7 Wayne Freshman that is one of top players in the country for his grade. Also, St Ed has a few Dayton targets (Funderbunk and Kipper). Is UD still recruting both of these kids? Seems like a lot of potential Flyers on the floor
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Curious to know about Kipper as well. Think I read somewhere that Clemson was really trying to reel him in. Could have been another SEC/ACC school though.
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03-26-2015, 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by FlyerNation23
I heard there is some 6'7 Wayne Freshman that is one of top players in the country for his grade.
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My son has played football and AAU bball against this kid and they are 'friends'/social media buddies...his name is L'Christian Smith and my son got a text or something from him yesterday showing that he was ranked #2 at his position in the country...Syracuse has already offered...UK offered for football...
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03-26-2015, 01:43 PM
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Has anyone heard anything about a kid out of Houston by the name of Young? I don't recall his first name.
Hear some talk from an extended family member (of his) that there was some interest. Not sure of his year.
It could also be a case wishful thinking by every local with a family member who plays basketball so this could be total cloud talk.
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03-26-2015, 01:46 PM
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Originally Posted by MrFlyerFanatic
Has anyone heard anything about a kid out of Houston by the name of Young? I don't recall his first name.
Hear some talk from an extended family member (of his) that there was some interest. Not sure of his year.
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He was the PAC12 POY at Oregon after leaving Houston.
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03-26-2015, 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Sea Bass
He was the PAC12 POY at Oregon after leaving Houston.
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Actually, he's a high school kid.
The only info I can find is a 6'3" SR all state forward named Joshua Young.
If that's him, I'm not so interested in a 6'3" forward unless he has a lot of growing left in him.
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03-26-2015, 02:43 PM
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Tervell Beck and Cleveland Central Catholic will play in the Division II semis tomorrow. Garfield Hts and Frankie Hughes will play in the DI semi. Both were being recruited by Archie.
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