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2009-10: 16-16, 7-9
2009-10 postseason: CBI
Coach: Ron Everhart (64-61 at Duquesne, 238-233 overall)
Final Projection:
The depth in the frontcourt may be an issue if the younger players cannot step up their game. The good news is this team will run more and Saunders is perfectly capable of playing at the five spot without getting into foul trouble. In fact, he averaged an amazing 36.7 minutes per game last year and only tallied 2.5 fouls per contest. Depth is nice, but nobody is going to replace Saunders’ production on the floor.
Projected Post-season Tournament: NIT
Projected Starting Five:
Eric Evans, Junior, Guard, 10.0 ppg
Sean Johnson, Sophomore, Guard, 5.6 ppg
B.J. Monteiro, Junior, Guard, 11.1 ppg
Bill Clark, Senior, Forward, 14.1 ppg
Damian Saunders, Senior, Forward, 15.0 ppg
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From WH:
http://www.basketballforum.com/atlan...real-post.html
DUQUESNE
W - BLUFIELD STATE
W - At Robert Morris
W - At Bowling GreeN
W - MARYLAND BALTIMORE COUNTY
L - Pitt (Console Energy Center)
L - At Penn State
W - At Green Bay Wisconsin
W - WEST VIRGINIA (Console Energy Center)
W - IUPUI
L - GEORGE MASON
W - NORTHWESTERN STATE
W - NORFOLK STATE
W - HOUSTON BAPTIST
NONCONFERENCE RECORD: 10-3.
The key to Duquesne's success this year will depend on the following: shooting better from outside (league worst 26% on treys) and defending better from outside (12th in 3PG FG%); grabbing more rebounds (-3.9 margin); getting more consistent point play; developing a deeper bench; and finding more help inside for Damian Saunders. THe Dukes are small or inexperienced in the frontcourt.
I think the Dukes should be better than last year. Everhart recruited some really good shooters and athletic wing players. They really need 6-10 frosh bigman Derrick Martin to get Clearinghouse approval. I predict a huge year for the unsung swingman B.J. Monteiro. He's like a smaller Saunders. Yet while the team has a nice core of four veterans, it's otherwise young and inexperienced.
The Dukes start off easy with Bluefield State (does this qualify as Div. 1 win?). Robert Morris lost coach Mike Rice and the new guy is young. RMU still has talent, but the Dukes should rout their smaller rival.
Bowling Green is young and coming off a poor season. MAC teams have always proven difficult for the A-10 to beat on the road. I see the Dukes eking this game out but wouldnt be surprised if they lost. The good news is that Ron Everhart almost always overachieves in noncon play and beats the teams he is supposed to beat. Hence a win over UMBC too (the school only won 4 games a year ago).
Then comes a tough stretch. The Dukes had their chance to beat Pitt last year. They won't get much of a chance this season.
Penn State is very beatable and the A-10 has had good success against the Nittany Lions. Tough to win on the road vs. a Big 10 team, though. Green Bay Wisconsin lost its coach after yet another 20-win season, but the team returns its top two guards and they have always given A-10 teams trouble. No gimme, this one. Could easily be the third straight loss.
West Virginia has a star in Kevin Jones and some tough veteran guards, but this Mountaineer team might be the least talented of the short Huggins era. This is my upset special. If the Dukes are going to get a bigname scalp, this is the most likely one.
Problem is, if they win they might let their guard down vs. a good IUPUI team that won 20 games last season, including a 73-64 win over Duquesne in Indy. Trap game. IUPUI has a terrific guard named (Young?) who would be an All-Conference player in the A-10. They won't be scared of the Dukes.
I see the Dukes either losing to IUPUI or Mason at home. Mason is tough and physical, the kind of grind-it-out team that gives Duquesne trouble. Both of these games are winnable, but there is little margin for error. The Dukes have to come to play each game.
The team finishes with what should be three relatively easy wins over lower-level Divsion 1 schools.
BONUS
A-10 PREDICTION: 7-9 (17-12 overall).
The Dukes pair up with Dayton, St. Louis and St. Bonaventure. Last year the team 2-5 against thos three teams, losing twice to Bona and barely beating the Bonnies (70-69) in the other game. I can't see the team doing any better than 3-3 in these games, and more likely 2-4. The Dukes also have to go on the road vs St Joes, UMass, LaSalle, Fordham and Richmond.
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4 turnovers in less than 2 minutes already. 5-4 Dayton though, and PW is down in pain.
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Looks like we are utterly unprepared for this game.
The Dukes are doing exactly what everyone knows they would: getting one turnover after the next, and we seem not to be prepared to protect the ball.
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Please keep up the comments and score updates. I have gametracker only for this one. Bummer. Thanks for any descriptions anybody can provide!
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And even gametracker is frozen on pregame preview. Arrrrgh.
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Originally Posted by tirebiter
Please keep up the comments and score updates. I have gametracker only for this one. Bummer. Thanks for any descriptions anybody can provide!
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Is game tracker even working for you? Mine is not
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Originally Posted by tirebiter
And even gametracker is frozen on pregame preview. Arrrrgh.
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I would listen to the radio. if you can't pick up 1290 try streaming it at
http://streaming.newstalkradiowhio.c...?callsign=WHIO
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More turnovers and poor defense. Everything for them is a layup. And as Bucky said,"CW has a mismatch and we are not getting him the ball." Do we have any coaches at the game?
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Have the Dukes committed a foul yet? I am getting sick of every team becoming angels on the floor against this team.
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There is a phrase we just do not hear enough of this year "Good defensive stand by the Flyers"...sometimes I miss the Hair and the Stiff.
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Originally Posted by Flyer_Tom
Have the Dukes committed a foul yet? I am getting sick of every team becoming angels on the floor against this team.
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Thats what happens when you dont step inside the three point line.
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Gotta love the two 24 seciond clock violations so far.
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No play by play or box score available on aol, or yahoo, or cbs sportsline. Nobody in the building has a laptop?
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Sounds like we're playing pretty well so far. I have no boxscore anywhere.
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Matt Schwade usually Tweets extensively during the game and he hasn't posted a single Tweet.
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Originally Posted by Swampy Meadows
Matt Schwade usually Tweets extensively during the game and he hasn't posted a single Tweet.
Might be a connectivity issue.
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He has been tweeting the entire game.
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22-22 at under 8 time out. Flyers shooting very well, but we need to get some points in the paint as I don't think we can keep this hot shooting up the whole game.
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C-time: I'm not seeing them. He is posting on FH.net tho.
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Originally Posted by Swampy Meadows
C-time: I'm not seeing them. He is posting on FH.net tho.
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I can see it Swampy. He has probably had 6-7 tweets in the 1st half so far.
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Originally Posted by Flyer_Tom
Have the Dukes committed a foul yet? I am getting sick of every team becoming angels on the floor against this team.
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2 fouls in 13 minutes...what's your point?
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This a team that does not foul, but yet we do not get agressive on offense. The Dukes mostly scoring at will against our D.
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Originally Posted by jack72
More turnovers and poor defense. Everything for them is a layup. And as Bucky said,"CW has a mismatch and we are not getting him the ball." Do we have any coaches at the game?
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Why should this game be any different than any other game they've played?
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My point is I get annoyed with our lack of aggression and the lack of respect from the refs.
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Can Staten SHOOT at all? More like LW all the time except his D is fair at best.
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Can Staten SHOOT at all? More like LW all the time except his D is fair at best.
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Ive gotten the feeling that the coaching staff tries and limits his shots. We have seen him hit a couple jumpers here and there.
I dont think he has the range for three's yet. needs to build up some muscle first.
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"Tapped in by Benson!"
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Ive gotten the feeling that the coaching staff tries and limits his shots. We have seen him hit a couple jumpers here and there.
I dont think he has the range for three's yet. needs to build up some muscle first.
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Amazing how much better everything flows when you don't settle for threes...kind of helps on the offensive AND defensive side of the floor....
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Wow, end of half woes continue. Back to back turnovers in the last 15seconds and we get lucky the last layup was put up too late. 39-36 Dukes at the half.
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That a way to finish a HALF! Pathetic..
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01-30-2011, 02:54 PM
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Please...
...mention the score and time a bit more frequently.....appear to be having some computer problems.
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01-30-2011, 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by FlyerFanatic21
Wow, end of half woes continue. Back to back turnovers in the last 15seconds and we get lucky the last layup was put up too late. 39-36 Dukes at the half.
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Larry never said who turned it over. Anyone know?
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01-30-2011, 02:54 PM
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sloppy play costs the chance to get the lead at half. Grrrr. Overall a good first half though. I got a feeling somebody will have a body on Benson the whole second half and the Dukes will play much more intense D as well, but after 20 minutes UD is in a good position to grab a W.
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01-30-2011, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Falcon7
Build up some muscle first???
You are kidding, right?
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nope,
gotta build up some lower body strength.
being a point guard and a jump shooter, as soon as his legs go, so does his shot.
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01-30-2011, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Falcon7
That a way to finish a HALF! Pathetic..
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Everyone should be used to it by now
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01-30-2011, 02:56 PM
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I give up.
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01-30-2011, 02:56 PM
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12 turnovers. Staten comes out and there was nobody else who could handle the ball. They said staten is very tired already.
JB playing well again, eight points.
PW with 11 I think
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Originally Posted by FlyerFanatic21
Lots of success down low today. 36-33 Flyers.
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if by success down low, you mean benson tipping in a lot of missed 3's and jump shots, yes
if you mean an actual gameplan to get the ball into the post...never going to happen
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01-30-2011, 02:56 PM
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Shooting 57%, but losing. 12 turnovers and some really bad defense at times.
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01-30-2011, 02:58 PM
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Hey the reports are the Pacers fired JOB today...anyone up for giving him a call?
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01-30-2011, 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by jack72
Shooting 57%, but losing. 12 turnovers and some really bad defense at times.
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Let me guess, they haven't tried playing a zone
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01-30-2011, 03:00 PM
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Gametracker appears to be up -- at least they have halftime stats.
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01-30-2011, 03:01 PM
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No zone.
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01-30-2011, 03:03 PM
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Originally Posted by jack72
Larry never said who turned it over. Anyone know?
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01-30-2011, 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by jcubspoe
No zone.
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That will be our surprise strategy for the 2nd half.
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01-30-2011, 03:08 PM
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1 st four minutes of second half are always critical. Let's get off to a good start.
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01-30-2011, 03:09 PM
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39-38 Dukes early 2nd half
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01-30-2011, 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by frisco flyer
Looks like we are utterly unprepared for this game.
The Dukes are doing exactly what everyone knows they would: getting one turnover after the next, and we seem not to be prepared to protect the ball.
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Please - how stupid is this comment. I'm sure that BG has no clue that TOs are bad. Maybe you should send him a tweet
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01-30-2011, 03:11 PM
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3 fouls on CJ. Ugh!
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01-30-2011, 03:11 PM
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CJ and CW playing pathetic.
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01-30-2011, 03:12 PM
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Sanders a stat stuffer, Searcy a stat duffer.
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01-30-2011, 03:12 PM
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Dukes push lead to 7 right away and now have two free throws. So much for a good start.
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01-30-2011, 03:13 PM
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Dayton down 5.
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01-30-2011, 03:13 PM
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Dukes are driving it in the lane, getting it to their big guys and taking us to town
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01-30-2011, 03:13 PM
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Dukes up 7.
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