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Old 01-30-2011, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by lilrudy4787 View Post
nope,

gotta build up some lower body strength.

being a point guard and a jump shooter, as soon as his legs go, so does his shot.
He's 5'10 and can dunk it easy, but yet not strong enough to be a good jump shooter? Get a clue, man!
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Staten cuts it to 3.
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Dukes up 7 now, not going to get anything out of CJ today. Best bet seems to put them at the line and hope they miss a bunch more. Their transition running seems to be a lot better than our faux transition game.
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Old 01-30-2011, 03:14 PM
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Dayton down 3 with 16 to go.
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Dukes jump right back out to an 8 point lead off turnovers.
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Just like that... we are down 8
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Old 01-30-2011, 03:18 PM
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Bucky just said it! "they know our offense too well" they know what we're doing before we do.

where has staten been?
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Did I here Dayton in a 3-2 zone!!!!????
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Down 53-44 @ under 14 TO.
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Sounds like zone was the answer to all our problems
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Why aren't we trying to get them to commit some fouls - currently 5 on us and 0 on them..
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Old 01-30-2011, 03:19 PM
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CJ and CW playing pathetic.
Hmmm. Larry just said CW's "been a monster!" I guess I'll take their word seeing as they can actually see the game.
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Sorry, did I HEAR Bucky say, "Dayton in a 3-2 zone?" Surely not.
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Old 01-30-2011, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Jets Flyer View Post
Bucky just said it! "they know our offense too well" they know what we're doing before we do.

where has staten been?
Isnt that the calling card of BG's offense since 2003?

Good news is...BG is really consistent!
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Old 01-30-2011, 03:20 PM
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We are playing the smallest team all year and we continue to shoot 3's and not pound it inside. I have been a huge BG supporter till this year. The guy just cannot coach on offense.

Getting outrebounded by 5. This team is in disarray and starts with the coaches.
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Old 01-30-2011, 03:21 PM
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Who is the genius that wanted UD to play a zone?
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Ugh. Game just about over.
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I've lost count how many times I've heard Larry say "Bad pass" by Dayton. Seems like for how patient we are at times against other teams, against these guys when we need to be we're doing the opposite.
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Old 01-30-2011, 03:22 PM
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Who is making all the bad passes? Larry and Bucky are not saying.
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Old 01-30-2011, 03:22 PM
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Yikes. I guess the Dukes are for real and we are the distinguished road to sub-.500 in conference
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Old 01-30-2011, 03:23 PM
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Old 01-30-2011, 03:23 PM
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Who is making all the bad passes? Larry and Bucky are not saying.
BG of course. Larry and Bucky are kool-aid drinkers that's why they won't say who.
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Old 01-30-2011, 03:24 PM
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Has the team stayed in zone during this entire run? Or did they flash the zone and go back to man?
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Sounds like the Flyers left their A game in the locker room at halftime.
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Who is the genius that wanted UD to play a zone?
Apparently BG since he told them to play it
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Down 14 with 12:36 to go...Another TO and we are losing our composure.

Let's launch more 3s!
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Old 01-30-2011, 03:26 PM
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Sounds like the Flyers left their A game in the locker room at halftime.
"A" game. How many times have we seen that lately?
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Old 01-30-2011, 03:27 PM
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Is Larry really doing an appearance at the Poelking Bowling alley to give away tickets to the St. Bonaventure game? That says alot....not sure what, but it says alot.
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I can't wait to hear the spin on this game in the presser. Wonder if we'll hear "Both teams played hard my man."...LOL.
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The people at the game who are tweeting have basically said we have thrown in the towel and quit. I guess the only good thing that has happened today was that we aren't having to watch this debacle.
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11:56 to play 58-44 Dukes... We got nothing on offense.
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We're down double digits but its more like a 6-8pt game because of the pace, so we're nowhere close to being out of it. Duquesne will keep the pedal to the metal. If we can get a cpl decent defensive stops, there will be plenty of possessions to get back in this.
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The people at the game who are tweeting have basically said we have thrown in the towel and quit. I guess the only good thing that has happened today was that we aren't having to watch this debacle.
must be true then
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Why aren't we trying to get them to commit some fouls - currently 5 on us and 0 on them..
How do you know they aren't?
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Bucky quote of the year "Dayton's offense isn't very good and the defense isn't much better".
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Originally Posted by C-time View Post
The people at the game who are tweeting have basically said we have thrown in the towel and quit. I guess the only good thing that has happened today was that we aren't having to watch this debacle.
They should throw it in and save some of this crap for Wed.
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And does BG call any time outs to make any adjustments? Wow he is fading fast.
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is there a BG show tomorrow?

I am really tempted to go and ask the questions everyone wants to hear asked for once.
I'll take the bait. What is the question?
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BG has called 2 timeouts...Bucky says we are attacking the basket and not getting any calls. What's new.
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And does BG call any time outs to make any adjustments? Wow he is fading fast.
What adjustments do you suggest coach? Tried zone and they got easy threes?
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is there a BG show tomorrow?

I am really tempted to go and ask the questions everyone wants to hear asked for once.
What is that, "will you resign?"
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And does BG call any time outs to make any adjustments? Wow he is fading fast.
He's called 2 plus 2 media timeouts
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CJ missed foul shot then picks up a tech. Nice...
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What adjustments do you suggest coach? Tried zone and they got easy threes?
Are you oblivious to the disgusting predictable offense we play? Throw it aroung the perimeter and shoot 3's or poor jump shots.
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What is that, "will you resign?"
I wish,

my question is , "how do you explain the lack of post play and ability to beat a zone defense for 8 years straight"
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my question is , "how do you explain the lack of post play and ability to beat a zone defense for 8 years straight"
Amen. Do it.
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I would have really liked to see what happened with that CJ last foul/technical
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What adjustments do you suggest coach? Tried zone and they got easy threes?
There's a difference between 'playing' zone and 'committing to playing' zone. UD 'played' zone versus Richmond. UD also 'played' a little full court trap against Richmond.....for a few possessions. But they never 'committed' to either because BG isn't comfortable with it. If an opponent scores one or two easy buckets, coaches usually go back to what they are comfortable with.

As an assistant, I've been there/done that. I used to plead with our head coach to stay committed to switching defenses throughout the game, but often times head coaches go back to what they are comfortable with. It takes a lot more than to just 'play a zone' here or there to truly be committed to playing it well. I'm sure Xavier worked their tails off all week and committed to playing a zone against Richmond, whereas UD probably works on a little zone each day in practice and simply tried to use it against Duq to see what happens.

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To be clear it is not why we are going to lose BUT it sure seems all the coaches in the A-10 chipped in on a gift for the refs but BG passed doesn't it? I mean holy crap, I know we are not the most agreesive team in the league but game after game the first 10 fouls in a half go 7 or 8 on us and then the refs have to react and call make up calls on the other team to keep it from looking bad. It's nuts I do not understand it. It happens at home and on the road.
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my question is , "how do you explain the lack of post play and ability to beat a zone defense for 8 years straight"
I am thinking I would ask "where is the defense?" We could always count on the defense.
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Down 10 with less than 8 minutes. Not an impossible task to come back, but Flyers not showing any signs of life.

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I guess the real problem this year is we have a coach who hangs his hat on his team playing lockdown defense and we just do not have the players to do that anymore. It is still his fault as he brought in these guys but more and more it seems the defense is what is killing us.
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man, have we ever lost this bad at Duquesne?
This is expected when you have a team which is not any good playing one of the top teams in the league. This shows how far UD is from winning the league anytime soon.
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I am thinking I would ask "where is the defense?" We could always count on the defense.
Exactly, this game, especially the second half, has been about bad defense and bad rebounding. They have killed us on the offensive glass, especially in the first half.
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When your leader[s) lose their leadership skills, it does not matter who you have on the floor. We know BG cannot coach on offense, but I really question whether he has the leadership skills to pull us out of this. He's looking like the BP Chairman after the spill.
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Vicey vercey would be more likely.
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Where is BG going?
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Season over...when BG goes will Staten transfer?
Be careful some people may jump all over you for bring up the "T" word, but IMO I would not blame anyone for leaving. Imagine if JS played with true basketball players in a system with some vision.
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If anything Staten would transfer before BG ever gets fired. Question is: would that be enough to get BG on the hot seat for real?
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Wow, I really didn't think it would be this ugly. Glad this dreck wasn't on the tube.
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Dukes - 76 Flyers - 59 3:33 to go. Dare I say that there is still hope?
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Are you oblivious to the disgusting predictable offense we play? Throw it aroung the perimeter and shoot 3's or poor jump shots.
No but what skill set to we possess to change things? We are not X, or Zaga. Most nights we have at most 1 guy, and typically no-one that can take his guy off the dribble. We don't have solid ball handlers outside of JS quite honestly. That right there limits the options.

Most of the bigs are not strong with the ball and don't have good hands, nor do they typically get good position so throwing it into the paint really isn't an option.

Face the facts - the skill level on the team is not what many think.

Personally, I'd start using BS and DO much more or next year could be a lot uglier than this year has been at times. It has to be hard for RH to understand why he isn't playing with the lack of defensive effort that has been shown accross the board today.
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Finally got some stats - what's the deal with Searcy only playing 7 minutes and Kav zero? Big men flu?
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Dukes - 76 Flyers - 59 3:33 to go. Dare I say that there is still hope?
HA, uhh no
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did i hear a walk on is in?
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Ralph Hill and Brandon??? are playing now. Are we desperate yet?
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Sounds like BG is throwing in the towel...Ralph Hill & walk on Vondahar are in.
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BG will take a mid level Big 10 or Big East job JS will transfer we will lose several recruits and we will be dreadful for 3 years. I guess this is what people on here want. To be honest I am torn. What promises are there the new coach wil be better? Let me throw this question out

Would you rather have a good recruiter or a good coach?
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holy cow our lineup: Oliver, Searcy, Spearman, Vonderhaar, Hill.
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Originally Posted by tirebiter View Post
Finally got some stats - what's the deal with Searcy only playing 7 minutes and Kav zero? Big men flu?
I'm going to assume matchup problems. Poor Kav would die running up and down in a game at this pace.
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BG will take a mid level Big 10 or Big East job JS will transfer we will lose several recruits and we will be dreadful for 3 years. I guess this is what people on here want. To be honest I am torn. What promises are there the new coach wil be better? Let me throw this question out

Would you rather have a good recruiter or a good coach?

Coach with assistants who can recruit.
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Originally Posted by tirebiter View Post
Finally got some stats - what's the deal with Searcy only playing 7 minutes and Kav zero? Big men flu?
Not sure...Searcy is expected, but Kav's doesn't make sense. O minutes?
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