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If I was going to nominate someone for the North Carolina head coaching position and the name was going to be a name NOT already mentioned in the tabloids, I would pick Bill Self of Kansas. He is 58 years young. He has been at Kansas for 17 years. Itís time for him to try something new before he gets stale. A few years from now; he will be considered too old to make the move.
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if i was going to nominate someone for the north carolina head coaching position and the name was going to be a name not already mentioned in the tabloids, i would pick...]
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Originally Posted by Buckleyma View Post
If I was going to nominate someone for the North Carolina head coaching position and the name was going to be a name NOT already mentioned in the tabloids, I would pick Bill Self of Kansas. He is 58 years young. He has been at Kansas for 17 years. Itís time for him to try something new before he gets stale. A few years from now; he will be considered too old to make the move.
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So much for that.........Kansas signs Self to a lifetime contract.
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So much for that.........Kansas signs Self to a lifetime contract.
Must be nice....

ďMost notably, Selfís contract states he cannot be fired for cause because of this infractions matter. If Self is suspended as a result of this NCAA case, he will forfeit half of his $2.975 million annual salary during the length of that suspension, though it will not affect the $2.435 million retention bonus heís set to receive on April 1 of each year.Ē

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I guess that I was not the only one who noticed that Bill Self was a potential candidate for the North Carolina job. Someone at Kansas acted fast and signed him to a lifetime contract.
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Rumor is Hubert Davis, UNC assistant, is the choice for UNC head coach.
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John Brannen at UC is placed on administrative leave, he is not allowed to recruit...if they fire him, they owe him $5 million...sounds like they do not want to pay the $5 million...sounds like they are trying to find just cause to fire him so they can skip out on paying the $5 million...I would like to know what he did that was so egregious, half the team seems to like him
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John Brannen at UC is placed on administrative leave, he is not allowed to recruit...if they fire him, they owe him $5 million...sounds like they do not want to pay the $5 million...sounds like they are trying to find just cause to fire him so they can skip out on paying the $5 million...I would like to know what he did that was so egregious, half the team seems to like him
The Athletic article I read mentioned sources saying that Brannen exceeded allotted practice time hours, and ran them so hard in a few practices that the medical staff had to step in to stop the practice and give IV fluids due to cramping. It mentioned up to 3 1/2 hour practices.

One of the remaining 4 players left on the roster still supports Brannen. Brannen seemed to run a clean program at NKU AFAIK.
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Where was UC's concern prior to 6 players entering the transfer portal? How was the AD unaware of frequent violations? If no one entered the transfer portal, was UC going to place him on leave? I think we know the answers to these questions.

I'm not excusing or condoning Brannen's conduct. I just wholly believe that this situation should result in numerous adverse employment actions.
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UC's reason is that they want to get rid of him but don't want to pay him the $5M they will owe him for terminating him without cause. They are building a case to fire him with cause.
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The Athletic article I read mentioned sources saying that Brannen exceeded allotted practice time hours, and ran them so hard in a few practices that the medical staff had to step in to stop the practice and give IV fluids due to cramping. It mentioned up to 3 1/2 hour practices.

One of the remaining 4 players left on the roster still supports Brannen. Brannen seemed to run a clean program at NKU AFAIK.
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UNC interviewed candidates, all connected with the school. ďThe list included, but was not limited to, current UNC assistant coaches Steve Robinson and Hubert Davis, Vanderbilt head coach Jerry Stackhouse, Monmouth head coach King Rice and UNC Greensboro head coach Wes Miller.Ē
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The Athletic article I read mentioned sources saying that Brannen exceeded allotted practice time hours, and ran them so hard in a few practices that the medical staff had to step in to stop the practice and give IV fluids due to cramping. It mentioned up to 3 1/2 hour practices.

One of the remaining 4 players left on the roster still supports Brannen. Brannen seemed to run a clean program at NKU AFAIK.
So I read the linked Athletic article...he may have broken the NCAA rules regarding the length of practice time, other than that, no other potential violations were mentioned...he is a demanding coach I guess, several commenters implied that Huggins and Cronin were just as tough or tougher...it does not sound like his players trust him...I will guess that some sort of negotiated settlement will be reached, and he is fired...they might want to wait until next year to hire a new coach since the coaching carousel has been in full swing for several weeks now...this will all set their program back a ways.

Covid made things worse...the transfer portal made things worse...the "free" extra year of eligibility made things worse...not having to sit out a year when transferring made things worse...tough situation...does not seem like there were any problems when he was at NKU, so this is all very surprising.

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And I am not understanding how he was able to get away with maybe violating the NCAA practice time rules. It sounds like the whole practice time tracking thing is based on the honor system. I am surprised that there is not some sort of structured system, required to be used by the NCAA, used to track practice time in order to keep in compliance. The medical people that were giving the players IV's at practice had to know that those practice time rules were being violated.

I think this practice time violation thing may be widespread, I remember Rich Rodriguez, the former Michigan football hc, got caught violating the practice time rules.
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And I am not understanding how he was able to get away with maybe violating the NCAA practice time rules. It sounds like the whole practice time tracking thing is based on the honor system. I am surprised that there is not some sort of structured system, required to be used by the NCAA, used to track practice time in order to keep in compliance. The medical people that were giving the players IV's at practice had to know that those practice time rules were being violated.

I think this practice time violation thing may be widespread, I remember Rich Rodriguez, the former Michigan football hc, got caught violating the practice time rules.
Brannen's attorney will work out a fair resolution. UC's hands are dirty. As to Rich Rod, he accepted the Michigan job on a Saturday and tried to get out of it on Sunday evening. I'll never forget a very well connected WVa friend sharing that with me. The Rich Rod-UM marriage was never good.
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Sean Miller is finally held accountable and has been fired by Arizona. The Miller brothers coaching stars have fallen quickly.
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Sean Miller is finally held accountable and has been fired by Arizona. The Miller brothers coaching stars have fallen quickly.
The Dayton and Eggsavier gigs are probably looking pretty attractive in the rear view mirror.
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Sean Miller has been there 12 years and never made a final four. The win column has been sliding in the past few years. The FBI investigation is the excuse, but not winning is the reason.
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A friend in Arizona indicated that Sean Miller may not be far from joining Archie in the unemployment line.
Honestly, with all the crap that swirled around him, I don't know how Sean remained employed this long.
Sean's firing took longer than expected.
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Well it certainly is NOT Miller Time! From the Penthouse to the Outhouse in a few short years. I remember reading somewhere a while back that Sean's father advised him NOT to go to Arizona but stay at Xavier. I guess he should have heeded his father's advise. Now both Sean and Archie are on the outside looking in. All that glitters is not gold. It is going to be interesting to follow what happens next for both brothers.
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Well it certainly is NOT Miller Time! From the Penthouse to the Outhouse in a few short years. I remember reading somewhere a while back that Sean's father advised him NOT to go to Arizona but stay at Xavier. I guess he should have heeded his father's advise. Now both Sean and Archie are on the outside looking in. All that glitters is not gold.
Yeah, but per Sean, Arizona was a Lexus, and Xavier was just a Buick, how could he say no to that Lexus? Lol.
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Yeah, but per Sean, Arizona was a Lexus, and Xavier was just a Buick, how could he say no to that Lexus? Lol.
In 1965 my uncle decided it was time to splurge at age 57. After driving Buicks most of his life he decided it was time for a brand new Cadillac. Only problem was the new Caddy didn't fit in his garage and he had to do a slight construction job to modify the garage so he could get the car to fit. In the years that followed that Caddy was the WORST car he ever owned! It required a lot of TLC and was in the shop more than it was on the road (or in the garage). Sometimes those Buicks are just fine.
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i would imagine both miller bros will get gigs somewhere as assistants if they want. certainly archie...maybe sean takes a year off?
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i would imagine both miller bros will get gigs somewhere as assistants if they want. certainly archie...maybe sean takes a year off?
I will bet as much as you'd like that the word "Assistant" will not be in their next job title. You don't lose your job in P5 conferences and rebound with an assistant's job, they will both be head coaches somewhere.
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I will bet as much as you'd like that the word "Assistant" will not be in their next job title. You don't lose your job in P5 conferences and rebound with an assistant's job, they will both be head coaches somewhere.
fair point. goodman mentioned in an article sean may even go the NBA route. apparently hes good friends with stan van gundy
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Arizona self imposed a 1 year post
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i would imagine both miller bros will get gigs somewhere as assistants if they want. certainly archie...maybe sean takes a year off?
Maybe they will both end up on Uncle Johnny's staff at Kentucky...
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Arizona said they would honor his contract,
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"Why stand by Miller for years only to dismiss him now when A) the notice of allegations that finally arrived was kinder to him than most anticipated it would be, and B) he had a preseason top 25 team set to return? According to Stadium's Jeff Goodman, it's because Miller continued to have the support of influential boosters despite his program's NCAA troubles, which made it difficult for the administration to pull the trigger until now. I get that, I guess. But it's the administration's job to convince the boosters that keeping Miller under these circumstances was counter-productive. Their inability to do so was a failure."
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Cincy firing John Brannen

Does UC look at Archie?
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Does UC look at Archie?
I think both Archie and Sean Miller might be candidates. I cannot figure out Brannen. I thought he did a really good job at NKU.
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Cincy firing John Brannen

Does UC look at Archie?
They would be crazy not to.
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I think both Archie and Sean Miller might be candidates. I cannot figure out Brannen. I thought he did a really good job at NKU.
All things considered, the optics on Sean donít look good for Cincy to consider him. This is probably a redline UC would be wise not to cross.
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All things considered, the optics on Sean donít look good for Cincy to consider him. This is probably a redline UC would be wise not to cross.
It's going to be awkward when Sean ends up back at xavier after next season when Arch is at UC.
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I think both Archie and Sean Miller might be candidates. I cannot figure out Brannen. I thought he did a really good job at NKU.
I remember reading an article in the Athletic about Brannenís father passing away a little over a year ago. It was a very traumatic time for him...I donít recall the circumstances.

He may have just snapped. Between that and Covid there might have been a lot of bad juju going on in his life.
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WLW was talking about this and they are putting a lot of blame on the rookie AD. He took what the players said and never talked to the coach. Fired him via email.
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Sean Miller will be an NBA assistant. There's no way a college would hire him right now given the risk he'll be hit with a show cause restriction.
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Wonder if John Brannen would ever join the Flyer's staff. He's been Grant's assistant for nine seasons, three at VCU and six at Alabama. He was Grant's associate head coach for his last two years in Tuscaloosa. Even coached him for two seasons while Brannen was a player for Marshall.

I can't imagine Brannen is a hot commodity right now, but Grant brought Donnie Jones aboard in the past, and Jones seemed to have an even bigger strike against him.

I thought Brannen did an incredible job at NKU and thought he'd get UC going at some point. Not entirely sure what all went down at UC (probably need some clarity there), but I haven't seen anything particularly ****ing thus far. Feels more like some weird administration/booster stuff.
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Wonder if John Brannen would ever join the Flyer's staff. He's been Grant's assistant for nine seasons, three at VCU and six at Alabama. He was Grant's associate head coach for his last two years in Tuscaloosa. Even coached him for two seasons while Brannen was a player for Marshall.

I can't imagine Brannen is a hot commodity right now, but Grant brought Donnie Jones aboard in the past, and Jones seemed to have an even bigger strike against him.

I thought Brannen did an incredible job at NKU and thought he'd get UC going at some point. Not entirely sure what all went down at UC (probably need some clarity there), but I haven't seen anything particularly ****ing thus far. Feels more like some weird administration/booster stuff.
If the reports in the Athletic are accurate, then it's easy to see why they fired him. Jones was only accused of a minor financial impropriety, not abuse of players.
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Regarding Brannen, this is worth reading, this pretty much captures what I thought, I liked the hire, not sure this was a justified firing, this might have been a mistake...Cronin might have hit his ceiling at UC, Brannen is a good offensive coach and is a good recruiter.

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/spo...ve/7155017002/

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