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Originally Posted by IAFlyer View Post
But the GOP (and Trump) have no intention of cutting spending. If you vote Dem or Rep, you will get increased spending because that is their power.
You have got to be kidding.

Every time the GOP proposes spending cuts, we get lectured about grandma and grandpa ending up on the street because the big, bad Republicans were going to cut their SS check, or we get lectured about some government program that is essential.

Never mind that the country is rapidly going bankrupt with competely out-of-control entitlement spending that many Dems crazily actually want to INCREASE.

Besides, the budget needs 60 Senate votes, the GOP can not cut anything without getting the Dems to go along with it.

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The key word "cuts"!

Originally Posted by ud2 View Post
You have got to be kidding.

Every time the GOP proposes spending cuts, we get lectured about grandma and grandpa ending up on the street because the big, bad Republicans were going to cut their SS check, or we get lectured about some government program that is essential.

Never mind that the country is rapidly going bankrupt with competely out-of-control entitlement spending that many Dems crazily actually want to INCREASE.

Besides, the budget needs 60 Senate votes, the GOP can not cut anything without getting the Dems to go along with it.
"Cuts" may be the problem. To bring entitlement spending into line with GDP growth and responsible Federal spending not one single person, present or future, needs to have benefits cut or reduced by a single penny from current levels.

Whenever the word "cut" is used voters envision actual reductions in the benefits they are currently receiving or future benefits being less than those of current retirees.

What has to be done is to reduce the rate of increase of future benefits.This is not rocket science. An articulate president who is a trusted leader should be able to explain that to the people. Reagan could do it.

Simple examples should be helpful, e.g., If a person is receiving a benefit of $100 monthly and the current benefit formula calls for that amount to increase to $150 per month in ten years...a change in the formula such that the future benefit increases to $130 per month is not a "cut" in the benefit unless one thinks $130 is less than $100. Such a change is a reduction in the planned "increase" in the future benefit. In ten years the recipient will be receiving a benefit 30% greater than he/she presently receives.

One problem is that Government is not trusted...."If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor...". On the other hand, in past years important changes have been made with no fuss at all. The age for full SS benefits was increased from 65 to 67. Part B Medicare premiums became means-tested so that higher income people pay more, much much more, than average folks.

There was no significant opposition whatsoever to those important changes. If carefully explained why would there be objection to similar changes, e.g., further increases in the age for full SS benefits?

A trusted President could do it. Now fellow Priders, suck it up and think about this. Is there any 2020 presidential candidate of either party that could pull that off more easily or effectively than Joe Biden? Like him or not, he is trusted; he is liberal; he's a senior himself...indeed, an old man. A GOP candidate would be skewered trying to do such a thing. But in the spirit of a Nixon-to-China move a Democratic president like Biden just might be the one able to pull it off.

Of course Biden would have to believe that reigning in entitlement growth is important. In that regard, I once read that it will be done eventually no matter the party of the President when the situation becomes so bad that it has to be addressed. Not the best way to run a railroad....but it is the way we Americans do things.
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Of course Biden would have to believe that reigning in entitlement growth is important. In that regard, I once read that it will be done eventually no matter the party of the President when the situation becomes so bad that it has to be addressed. Not the best way to run a railroad....but it is the way we Americans do things.
Trump should appoint Biden head of DHHS and task him with reforming entitlements.
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Originally Posted by ud2 View Post
You have got to be kidding.

Every time the GOP proposes spending cuts, we get lectured about grandma and grandpa ending up on the street because the big, bad Republicans were going to cut their SS check, or we get lectured about some government program that is essential.

Never mind that the country is rapidly going bankrupt with competely out-of-control entitlement spending that many Dems crazily actually want to INCREASE.

Besides, the budget needs 60 Senate votes, the GOP can not cut anything without getting the Dems to go along with it.
I would almost believe that line of logic if the line items for everything in the budget didn't increase.
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Originally Posted by IAFlyer View Post
I would almost believe that line of logic if the line items for everything in the budget didn't increase.
We really need term limits, that might be the only answer to our overspending problem.

Senate 12 years, House 12 years, and maybe even have SCOTUS at around 20 years.
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Top Trump appointees promoted selling nuclear power plants to Saudi Arabia over the objections of security officials:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/ampht...mpression=true

And apparently Trump is still considering this insane idea, originally pushed by Michael Flynn and backed by Jared Kushner and Trump bankroller Tom Barrack.

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Wouldn't it be easier just to sell them the nuclear fuel??? or does that still have to go thru Hillary??
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Jared Kushner being investigated for Trump plan to sell nuclear technology to the Saudis:

https://www.newsweek.com/jared-kushn...uclear-1335990

You remember the Saudis right? The ones responsible for 9/11. Also, the ones who bailed out Kushner on the worst real estate deal of all time at 666 Park Avenue.

No conflict of interest there right?

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Originally Posted by rollo View Post
Wouldn't it be easier just to sell them the nuclear fuel??? or does that still have to go thru Hillary??
If you are referring to the totally debunked Uranium One story, The NY Times who published it has admitted it is BS:

https://mobile.twitter.com/NickMerri...56565242527745



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The NYT? They aren’t pro-democrat at all. Of course they are going to retract a story that is anti -democrat.
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Originally Posted by Swampy Meadows View Post
If you are referring to the totally debunked Uranium One story, The NY Times who published it has admitted it is BS:

https://mobile.twitter.com/NickMerri...56565242527745

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Sure Swampy - everybody donates $145 million to the Clinton Foundation out of the kindness of their heart. Even left wing Politico mentions the money:
https://www.politico.com/story/2017/...plainer-244895

Using the NYT as a trusted source is about the same as believing Jussie Smollett describing a hate crime.
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Question the source but not the fact that Trump is trying to sell nuclear technology to the Saudis.

Don’t ever change fellas.
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Deutsche Bank Weighed Extending Trump Loans on Default Risk

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...n-default-risk

Top Deutsche Bank AG executives were so concerned after the 2016 U.S. election that the Trump Organization might default on about $340 million of loans while Donald Trump was in office that they discussed extending repayment dates until after the end of a potential second term in 2025
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Deutsche Bank Weighed Extending Trump Loans on Default Risk

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...n-default-risk

Top Deutsche Bank AG executives were so concerned after the 2016 U.S. election that the Trump Organization might default on about $340 million of loans while Donald Trump was in office that they discussed extending repayment dates until after the end of a potential second term in 2025
From all accounts it sounds like Deutsche Bank is making a solid business decision.

You must be getting carpal tunnel with all of your trivial information that you are able to find and post.
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Trump White House Is Forcing Interns to Sign NDAs and Threatening Them With Financial Ruin

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Trump White House Is Forcing Interns to Sign NDAs and Threatening Them With Financial Ruin

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-...financial-ruin
Well, at least the President is not sexually abusing them.
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So what...

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Trump White House Is Forcing Interns to Sign NDAs and Threatening Them With Financial Ruin

https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-...financial-ruin
https://obama.3cdn.net/d33f3886bfb70a0cca_zrs9mvxyt.pdf

"NONDISCLOSURE AGREEMENT
This NONDISCLOSURE AGREEMENT (this “Agreement”) is made and entered into as
of _________ , 2008 by and between Obama for America (the “Campaign”) and
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https://obama.3cdn.net/d33f3886bfb70a0cca_zrs9mvxyt.pdf

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This NONDISCLOSURE AGREEMENT (this “Agreement”) is made and entered into as
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Can you read?

It says "campaign" not "White House."

Campaign.

Not the same thing.

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You really think Trump is the first president to have an NDA? You are truly delusional.
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Read #9...money isn't enough

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https://www.thedailybeast.com/trump-...financial-ruin
Obama Campaign is Forcing Recipients to Sign NDAs and Threatening Them With Financial Ruin

"9. Remedies. Recipient agrees that any violation or threatened violation of this Agreement will cause irreparable injury to the Campaign, for which money damages will not be an adequate remedy, entitling Campaign to obtain injunctive relief in addition to all other legal and equitable remedies."
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Most companies make you (including interns) sign non-disclosures. Anyone who has had a real job, journalists excepted, knows that and has signed several.
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You really think Trump is the first president to have an NDA? You are truly delusional.
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Sorry, but you gotta show you work smart guy. What other White House (NOT CAMPAIGN) has made all employees even interns sign an NDA?

Name one.

Here I did your work for you--the answer is none:

In the Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, and Barack Obama administrations, NDAs were sometimes handed out to those dealing specifically with classified, or sensitive, information. However, ones resembling the far-reaching NDAs of the Trump Organization, campaign team, and White House—agreements that have essentially nothing to do with national security, but instead mere fealty to the president and his family members—were unheard of.

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*look it up moron

It makes complete sense that a President's staff - who will be exposed to uber top secret info - sign such agreements.

I'm not so sure it makes sense for a Presidential candidate to make his minions sign anything remotely similar...unless they are hiding something.

But I'm guessing that only a 'smart guy' understands this so I don't expect a cogent* reply.

FWIW, Hillary's campaign had NCA, too.
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Sorry, but you gotta show you work smart guy. What other White House (NOT CAMPAIGN) has made all employees even interns sign an NDA?

Name one.

Here I did your work for you--the answer is none:

In the Bill Clinton, George W. Bush, and Barack Obama administrations, NDAs were sometimes handed out to those dealing specifically with classified, or sensitive, information. However, ones resembling the far-reaching NDAs of the Trump Organization, campaign team, and White House—agreements that have essentially nothing to do with national security, but instead mere fealty to the president and his family members—were unheard of.
so just because a not so smart guy posts it on the internet, we are to believe you have shown your work and what you write is the gospel?

Most successful companies in the world has anyone and everyone on staff sign NDA's, welcome to 2019.
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You are talking to a guy who deals with NDAs every day, cowboy.

I'm in the private sector; the WH is the federal government.

From the linked article:

To veterans of other administrations, the act of compelling interns to sign these types of NDAs would seem odd, if not downright unenforceable or legally dubious. To this White House, it’s standard operating procedure.
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If only Monica had signed one she would’ve kept her mouth closed
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