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Old 01-18-2018, 03:34 PM
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Mikesell is the best post entry passer on the team. They could use him.
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Just a friendly reminder about what not to do with recruits!

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Xavier Pinson picked up offers from Memphis & Missouri over the past couple days
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Mikesell is the best post entry passer on the team. They could use him.
Big time. They could run plenty of offense thru him and there's no doubt, imo, he would have regained his shooting touch this year..
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Seems like all the action recruiting wise now are for PGs & a couple wings. I suspect that says something about the confidenc in Toppin & Mikesell
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Seems like all the action recruiting wise now are for PGs & a couple wings. I suspect that says something about the confidenc in Toppin & Mikesell
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Pinson announces his final 5 are us, Georgetown, Missouri, Memphis and SLU.

Final 2 coming tonight
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Pinson announces his final 5 are us, Georgetown, Missouri, Memphis and SLU.

Final 2 coming tonight
Seems like odd timing. Just started getting a bunch of offers flowing in.
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Old 01-19-2018, 06:09 PM
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Xavier Pinson, you are our man. Put our last four years success and fan support against those other four, and we are clearly the best choice. Hopefully, you have seen the success and support that Pollard and Davis and Cunningham had, and realize that we love Chicago guys.
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Sorry for the inconvenience... but the date for my “Final 2 schools decision” has been changed to Next Friday! #StayTuned
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Old 01-22-2018, 03:31 PM
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The pursuit and interest in Simeon’s unsigned senior Xavier Pinson continues as Maryland, Oklahoma State and Butler will be in to see the point guard this week.
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Old 01-22-2018, 03:55 PM
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Probably explains the delay to narrowing the top 2 to this Friday. Wouldn't be shocked at another delay as well.
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Hopefully the fact we offered Pinson before some of these other schools helps keep us in his final 2
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Old 01-23-2018, 10:22 AM
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Hopefully the fact we offered Pinson before some of these other schools helps keep us in his final 2
The only thing that matters is if we are in his final 1.
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The only thing that matters is if we are in his final 1.
Has this kid even visited....eg Javon Thomas
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The only thing that matters is if we are in his final 1.
Has this kid even visited....eg Jevon Thomas
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I have no idea. I really don't know anything about him and really don't follow recruiting that closely. I just know I take no solace in finishing runner-up in these contests. I start caring about recruits when they commit to the Flyers.
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He's still in season for high school so probably tough for him to take visits right now.

From what I can tell he hasn't visited anywhere at least officially lately. He visited Kent State & Drake in the fall, possibly others.
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So the scouting report on Xavier Pinson is that he's pass first PG. Good mid-range game, developing 3pt shot. Needs to put on serious weight in a college strength program
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Any update on the kid from Miami, Neftali Alvarez? Has he taken a visit? Has anyone spotted any other potential recruits at any of the games?
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If someone can translate I found a Spanish language article on him. Announcing in April but can't pull anything else useful

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Just open it in Chrome and the option to translate it to English will pop up.
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https://basketballrecruiting.rivals....mmitt-williams

Anfernee Simmons update, no mention of Dayton.
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https://basketballrecruiting.rivals....mmitt-williams

Anfernee Simmons update, no mention of Dayton.
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Shocking! HaHa. I'm to the point now where I really don't waste my time looking up anything on recruits until they actually commit to Dayton. We'll just have to wait and see. Hopefully there will be a few more scholarships opening up due to departures.
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Most recently, scholarship offers have come from Washington, George Washington, Fordham, Texas Tech, Cincinnati and Dayton. At least 25 other colleges have expressed an interest, including Syracuse, Colgate, West Virginia, Florida, Rhode Island and San Diego State.

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The 2018 prospect says three schools have been recruiting him consistently.

“Texas Tech calls or texts me every day, Cincinnati does the same thing and Dayton as well,” he said.

Dayton is looking to get Policelli on campus sometime soon.

“Dayton likes the same attributes as the other two schools,” said Policelli said. “They have been very active as they have been talking to me and my coaches about getting me to campus soon.”

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What's the fun in waiting until guys commit to UD? I always am intrigued by who UD goes after, what other schools are going for that player, and what that player says about UD...

Good info OSU Flyer
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Great information...I'm glad he did the legwork on it. I'm just saying I'm not going to waste my time looking up info on recruits that we offer. Only ones that verbally commit.
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The article that mentions Simons was in reference to a question posed by a fan who ask if he still might go to NC State. NC State was the only school discussed in the answer. That is why Dayton was not mentioned. Doesn't mean they are out of it.
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The article that mentions Simons was in reference to a question posed by a fan who ask if he still might go to NC State. NC State was the only school discussed in the answer. That is why Dayton was not mentioned. Doesn't mean they are out of it.
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...so the bottom line is that if Simons wants to play in Raleigh, there will be room. Now the question is, can they land him?

Tennessee has a very nice start on Simons and he seems to have genuinely liked his visit there. Florida and South Carolina could be factors here too. The biggest question that has to first be answered, though, is whether or not Simons will go to the NBA. At a minimum, he’s a safe bet to test the waters and if he does that, it makes him a really risky recruit. Whether he stays in the NBA Draft or not...
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https://basketballrecruiting.rivals....mmitt-williams

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Rivals is always going to mention the Power 5 schools over a mid-major like Dayton. North Carolina St. was mentioned in the above news/twitter. If you go to Rivals.com there are actually 17 schools listed and UD is one of them!

Anfernee Simons is a 6'4" 5 star shooting guard who decommitted from Louisville who attends IMG Academy in Bradenton, Florida. Assistant coach, Darren Hertz, was an assistant at Florida with Anthony Grant when Billy Donovan was the coach there so maybe he could be instrumental in his recruitment!

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I hope so

I think the play with Simmons is he declares for the NBA draft without an agent & rides the process out till the June 11th deadline to withdraw . You hope the big boys get forced to move on because they don't want to wait for him. We've got an open spot on the off chance he decides to back out and he parachutes in
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Shocking! HaHa. I'm to the point now where I really don't waste my time looking up anything on recruits until they actually commit to Dayton. We'll just have to wait and see. Hopefully there will be a few more scholarships opening up due to departures.
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Just curious. If you don't follow recruiting until they sign, why do you go to a thread titled "2018 Recruiting Thread"?? Why not just wait for the "Welcome to the family Player X" thread?
Some people on this board spend a lot of time in threads they say they don't care about. They are unable to resist clicking it. I stopped trying to understand it.
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Does UD still recruit for the general student population down in Puerto Rico
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Last time I was on campus at a fraternity reunion, I met a number of PR kids. I also saw a story about relief efforts that UD students from PR put together after the hurricane.
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No mention of UD with Simmons

https://247sports.com/Article/Five-s...sion-113476915

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No mention of UD with Simmons

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With Izzo supposedly done and Louisville already open the coaching carousel should really open up some high school kids and transfers this spring
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Mentions some of Izzo's issues at MSU...

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New name to watch, Robert Braswell F out of Blythewood, South Carolina. State high jump champ for big schools. Just picked up a UMass offer
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Izzo should be done (but won't) because head coaches have been protected from this stuff and there are a lot of head coaches who have been part of it. They have provided a place at colleges for these athletes who have little interest or aptitude for a degree. Dayton included.

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Izzo may be smart to retire. The ESPN piece on MSU is quite provocative. They may have to shut down all athletics.
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Izzo may be smart to retire. The ESPN piece on MSU is quite provocative. They may have to shut down all athletics.
You may be right. After what came out about how they handled the whole Nassar mess, MSU has lost any benefit of the doubt when it comes to how they handled the other situations.
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Just curious. If you don't follow recruiting until they sign, why do you go to a thread titled "2018 Recruiting Thread"?? Why not just wait for the "Welcome to the family Player X" thread?
Read what I wrote again. I said I don't "waste any time LOOKING UP recruits". Never said I didn't follow it. I still like to know who we're in on and if someone posts info on a message board I'll certainly read/watch it. Thanks for the legwork everyone.
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New name, Robin Perry a guard out of Orlando Oak Ridge who is a shooter

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You may be right. After what came out about how they handled the whole Nassar mess, MSU has lost any benefit of the doubt when it comes to how they handled the other situations.
They won't shut down their athletic department. They will probably clean house, pay a huge fine, and then get hit hard by the Big 10 and NCAA just like Penn State. Penn State and Baylor are still up and running, MSU will be too. It is not right to punish the student athletes for the dirty deeds of the admin.
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Probably on Baylor's short list.
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Two of his teammates from Oak Ridge High School have gotten all the publicity and hence why he may be considered a sleeper. Antwann Jones was on UD's radar early but chose Oklahoma St. and recently decommited and is now signed with Texas A&M. Emmitt Williams, a 6'8" forward recently committed to LSU. Robin Perry, at 6'2" is not as athletic and cannot create his own shot as easily as Antwann Jones but is a good ball handler. I watched his you tube highlights and he is a very good three point shooter. His release is somewhat unorthodox but who cares as long as it goes in!
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Blythewood is a "suburb" of Columbia, just like Irmo where JD is from. Might we have created a little pipeline in the midlands? I hope so because I live in Lexington and hearing "from South Carolina" everytime the announces talk about JD is awesome!
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A 6'8 forward who's the big school high jump champ in South Carolina. It'd be worth getting him in here even if he's a project.
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Vanderbilt has two five stars and a four star, and are in the final three for five star Langford. Indiana has 4 commits from four stars, and is also in the final three for Langford.

We have one four star. Our recruiting is stuck in neutral. How are we not competing with the likes of Vanderbilt?
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Vanderbilt has two five stars and a four star, and are in the final three for five star Langford. Indiana has 4 commits from four stars, and is also in the final three for Langford.

We have one four star. Our recruiting is stuck in neutral. How are we not competing with the likes of Vanderbilt?
Change in coaching staff? It takes time to develop relationships with players. I can't expect AG to have all 4 and 5 star recruits when he hasn't even been coach for a year yet, and multiple chunks of time are in blackouts.
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Change in coaching staff? It takes time to develop relationships with players. I can't expect AG to have all 4 and 5 star recruits when he hasn't even been coach for a year yet, and multiple chunks of time are in blackouts.
There’s that and then the fact that until a couple weeks ago we didn’t have a scholarship open. You can’t sign 4 guys to one spot.
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Vanderbilt has two five stars and a four star, and are in the final three for five star Langford. Indiana has 4 commits from four stars, and is also in the final three for Langford.

We have one four star. Our recruiting is stuck in neutral. How are we not competing with the likes of Vanderbilt?
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Vanderbilt has two five stars and a four star, and are in the final three for five star Langford. Indiana has 4 commits from four stars, and is also in the final three for Langford.

We have one four star. Our recruiting is stuck in neutral. How are we not competing with the likes of Vanderbilt?
A couple of issues here:

- Conference: We offer games against Fordham and Duquesne on CBS Sports and games against Richmond streamed on Facebook. The other schools you mentioned are in conferences with much better TV exposure and better competition.

- Scholarships: We don't have many to offer - so we can't really be signing guys left and right. We have one signed - and he appears to be a heck of a get.

Don't take this to mean I don't love our school - because I do. I'm just realistic about recruiting.
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A couple of issues here:

- Conference: We offer games against Fordham and Duquesne on CBS Sports and games against Richmond streamed on Facebook. The other schools you mentioned are in conferences with much better TV exposure and better competition.

- Scholarships: We don't have many to offer - so we can't really be signing guys left and right. We have one signed - and he appears to be a heck of a get.

Don't take this to mean I don't love our school - because I do. I'm just realistic about recruiting.
My comment was not meant to reflect just this year. We have not jumped hard on the four star recruiting horse for the the last five years. After four straight NCAA's, some TV exposure and a great fan base we have some reputation and success. It has got us how many consensus fours right out of HS in the last few years?

AG is one for one, so far so good. Hopefully, he will not settle like Archie did. He can start by nudging a couple of these guys to other schools, and recruiting over them. One for one on that with Miller. Still a couple left.

As far as TV goes, some of these conferences have TV networks, but they are also ones you have to pay extra for, so not all these HS recruits are seeing these games. I live in Raleigh/Durham with three ACC teams. I would say the combined number of TV games between Duke, UNC and NCSt are about the same as the total TV games for UD. Actually we have a decent TV deal with CBSS, NBCS and ESPN's.

I cannot watch a bunch of PAC12, B10, or SEC, except select games. If the B12 has a network, it is not offered here. The ACC has no network. The Big East has many games on, but not sure it is more than UD.

I think conference is the biggest reason kids shy away from UD. Many of these kids know UD, but when they hear the names of schools we play, they say, "who?"

Vandy right now is 8-13, and last in a the SEC, and is rarely on TV, so maybe their coach is cheating.
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We play games on Facebook. There's no question the P5 & Big East have superior TV deals. ACC is the process of getting a network

Its tough for anyone in the A10 to consistently get 4 star recruits. Archie didn't settle he played the cards he was dealt. Wichita St signed a 6 man class this year & it has 1 four star recruit. That says it all
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Great article on X vs UC, much applies to us

"If you are selling the American and 5th/3rd, who exactly is buying?" said a coach I talked with.

"Keith Williams (in-coming UC recruit) picked UC over UD because of the higher level of prestige,but if a Power 5 conference were in the mix, he would have gone there," said a recruiting analyst.

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Big East vs the American. Again, no contest. While this new edition of the Big East might not match the 80's version, it still carries star power and name recognition. Playing the conference tournament at historic Madison Square Garden only adds to that. The American is the conference UC can't wait to get out of, offering opponents like Tulane, South Florida and East Carolina.

A former coach posed this to me: "Let's me ask you a simple question: If you were a recruit, which conference would you rather play in? Which arena would you play in? This isn't that hard."

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Article mentions style of play & recruits preferring to play in an uptempo system vs a slow defensive one like UC

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My comment was not meant to reflect just this year. We have not jumped hard on the four star recruiting horse for the the last five years. After four straight NCAA's, some TV exposure and a great fan base we have some reputation and success. It has got us how many consensus fours right out of HS in the last few years?

AG is one for one, so far so good. Hopefully, he will not settle like Archie did. He can start by nudging a couple of these guys to other schools, and recruiting over them. One for one on that with Miller. Still a couple left.

As far as TV goes, some of these conferences have TV networks, but they are also ones you have to pay extra for, so not all these HS recruits are seeing these games. I live in Raleigh/Durham with three ACC teams. I would say the combined number of TV games between Duke, UNC and NCSt are about the same as the total TV games for UD. Actually we have a decent TV deal with CBSS, NBCS and ESPN's.

I cannot watch a bunch of PAC12, B10, or SEC, except select games. If the B12 has a network, it is not offered here. The ACC has no network. The Big East has many games on, but not sure it is more than UD.

I think conference is the biggest reason kids shy away from UD. Many of these kids know UD, but when they hear the names of schools we play, they say, "who?"

Vandy right now is 8-13, and last in a the SEC, and is rarely on TV, so maybe their coach is cheating.
Every single SEC/BIG game are on the SECN, FS1, ESPN, or at the very least streaming on those network's services. Dayton has games on facebook that are viewed by 1,000 people.

Vanderbilt's new coach is a young up and comer who made a name for himself playing in the NCAA tournament. Dayton's coach is 50 something who couldn't hack it when the SEC was as down as possible and has been away from CBB for years.

Is it really that hard to understand why someone would choose Vandy over UD? This doesn't even begin to discuss being in Nashville over Dayton.
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As long as you coaching wannabe's who have never run the floor with a basketball in your life want to continue to rant about a first season coach with a very strong resume then you can kiss new five star recruits goodbye.

Keep it up and we wont be able to attract one star talent and we will lose the recruit we have.

I can't believe the immaturity and the self righteous behavior of these posters. At least wait long enough for AG to unpack his suitcase. and find the restroom. Did your parents never teach you about the life requirement to delay gratification?
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As long as you coaching wannabe's who have never run the floor with a basketball in your life want to continue to rant about a first season coach with a very strong resume then you can kiss new five star recruits goodbye.

Keep it up and we wont be able to attract one star talent and we will lose the recruit we have.

I can't believe the immaturity and the self righteous behavior of these posters. At least wait long enough for AG to unpack his suitcase. and find the restroom. Did your parents never teach you about the life requirement to delay gratification?
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As long as you coaching wannabe's who have never run the floor with a basketball in your life want to continue to rant about a first season coach with a very strong resume then you can kiss new five star recruits goodbye.
"a very strong resume" that got him fired from his last head coaching job.
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As far as TV goes, some of these conferences have TV networks, but they are also ones you have to pay extra for, so not all these HS recruits are seeing these games. I live in Raleigh/Durham with three ACC teams. I would say the combined number of TV games between Duke, UNC and NCSt are about the same as the total TV games for UD. Actually we have a decent TV deal with CBSS, NBCS and ESPN's.

I cannot watch a bunch of PAC12, B10, or SEC, except select games. If the B12 has a network, it is not offered here. The ACC has no network. The Big East has many games on, but not sure it is more than UD.

I think conference is the biggest reason kids shy away from UD. Many of these kids know UD, but when they hear the names of schools we play, they say, "who?"

Vandy right now is 8-13, and last in a the SEC, and is rarely on TV, so maybe their coach is cheating.
Vandy - the worst team in the SEC - has 10 games on the ESPN networks. We have 5 (including Charleston). Everything else we have is NBCS, CBSS, or Fox Sports Ohio. I don't think a TV package exists that gets you all of those channels, but not SEC network (which gives you another 16 Vandy games). Especially from a national standpoint where you need to buy the premium sports package to get a regional Fox channel outside your market - you can get SEC Network easier than that.

And our TV schedule is pretty good. As an out of town fan I get 90% of them - which is awesome. I also pay a pretty penny for the sports package to see them. However most teams in the A10 don't get the TV schedule we do - so this is as good as it gets for us as long as the A10 is what it is.

Overall recruiting, we do pretty darn well for being outside the P5. We have great facilities and a rabid fan base - I think that appeals to recruits. But to expect us to regularly recruit with teams from a major conference may be setting unfair expectations.
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So Neftali Alvarez will make his decision with help from his mentor Art Alvarez per this article

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Art Alvarez is a longtime high school & AAU coach in Miami who is good friends with Frank Martin and AG recruited some of his players at Miami. One, David Huertas, Art praises the job AG did

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I think this is the kid AG wants the most of all the PG's he's recruiting.
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If there's one coach who know can identity guard talent especially outside the elite it's Gregg Marshall. From a quick glance at their board it sounds like Alvarez is their insurance policy if their current PG Landry Shamet declares for the NBA draft

Alvaverz from reading on him, he basically delivers his guy to Frant Martin if he's after them. He & AG are out of the same era in Miami so I'd assume know each other

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Xavier Pinson picked up an offer on his unofficial to Wisconsin & is trying to set up an official visit. That would leave him with I believe 1 left
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Rhymes was a non qualifier from Arizona who played for Mike Bibby Sr alongside Mike Bibby Jr. The thing that really stands out about Rhymes is that he won two state championships in high school and then the national juco championship. Dayton has probably lost more games this season than Rhymes has in his last four seasons.

Also, he has a website. It could use a bit of updating. Check it out but please resist the urge to request his high school transcripts as the site suggests.

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Interesting they are going after another SG/SF

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Interesting they are going after another SG/SF

http://www.bluedragonsports.com/spor...ymes_j.j._k5li
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I caught up with draft-eligible combo guard Anfernee Simons after watching him explode for 36 points (seven made 3-pointers) last night against Victory Rock Prep in Florida. As he has previously stated, Simons plans to test the NBA draft waters in hopes of earning an invite to the pre-draft combine and eventually landing a 1st round guarantee. If the smooth 6-3 guard doesn't like the feedback he's getting from NBA teams, he plans to withdraw from the draft and play in the NCAA next season. Both NC State and the Indiana Pacers attended IMG's game last night in Sarasota, and all 30 NBA teams are expected to evaluate Simons by the end of the season. Simons is currently number 23 on our Top 100 draft-eligible prospect rankings.
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He isn't, and never was, coming to the ole' U of D. Can we stop talking about him yet?
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Great article on X vs UC, much applies to us

"If you are selling the American and 5th/3rd, who exactly is buying?" said a coach I talked with.

"Keith Williams (in-coming UC recruit) picked UC over UD because of the higher level of prestige,but if a Power 5 conference were in the mix, he would have gone there," said a recruiting analyst.

Conference:

Big East vs the American. Again, no contest. While this new edition of the Big East might not match the 80's version, it still carries star power and name recognition. Playing the conference tournament at historic Madison Square Garden only adds to that. The American is the conference UC can't wait to get out of, offering opponents like Tulane, South Florida and East Carolina.

A former coach posed this to me: "Let's me ask you a simple question: If you were a recruit, which conference would you rather play in? Which arena would you play in? This isn't that hard."

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That is a painful dose of reality for Flyer fans to digest. Inserting our situation and record into that discussion is frustrating. The Big East snub just screams at us.
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That is a painful dose of reality for Flyer fans to digest. Inserting our situation and record into that discussion is frustrating. The Big East snub just screams at us.
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He isn't, and never was, coming to the ole' U of D. Can we stop talking about him yet?
I never thought he was going to come here, but up until a week ago, he was the one mentioning us in multiple interviews as a school he was considering and recruiting him the hardest. Kennard or Goodwin never mentioned UD like that while they were being recruited. It was normally when a local reporter would ask about UD specifically.
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Qualifier Brandon Mahan (6'6, Wing) of Chipola has offers from St Louis, Memphis, UCF, Dayton, South Florida, Jacksonville, Texas State, MTSU, East Carolina, Utah Valley and Loyola Marymount. Numerous others calling everyday
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Mahan is a qualifier out of high school so he'd have 3 years of eligibility and start as a sophomore next season. Not much info I could find on him out there but he's originally from Birmingham, Alabama. Looks like he just flew under the radar out of high school.

Looking at his stats he's a lights out 3pt shooter making 52%. Taking a high volume of 3s too (64-123) in 21 games.

Florida JUCO ball is pretty strong so he's so he's seeing the top of JUCO competition
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That is a painful dose of reality for Flyer fans to digest. Inserting our situation and record into that discussion is frustrating. The Big East snub just screams at us.
It's painful but there's hope not mentioned in the article

There's a strong argument imo that even when Xavier was in the A10 and UC was in the Big East you could have said X was the better program. Despite all the limitations being in the A10 brought. The A10 is a handicap in recruiting high level guys but Xavier and other programs have found ways of overcoming the handicap brought by their conferences.

Xavier among other programs had a good blueprint on how to get talent at this level and succeed. Recruiting 4 year guys out of high school is part of the equation. They had a ton of success with transfers, non qualifiers (Power 5 plus Big East can't take these guys out of HS) and some success in the JUCO ranks

Long story short, whether it's us or anyone outside the P5+BE the blue print for success is an all of the above strategy for recruiting. JUCOs, a generous dose of transfers, non qualifiers and traditional high school recruits. Coach Cal is the only guy outside the P5 that I can think of that just out recruited people in the high school ranks.

Xavier, Gonzaga, Wichita State, Butler, Creighton all followed this model to some degree
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It's painful but there's hope not mentioned in the article

There's a strong argument imo that even when Xavier was in the A10 and UC was in the Big East you could have said X was the better program. Despite all the limitations being in the A10 brought. The A10 is a handicap in recruiting high level guys but Xavier and other programs have found ways of overcoming the handicap brought by their conferences.

Xavier among other programs had a good blueprint on how to get talent at this level and succeed. Recruiting 4 year guys out of high school is part of the equation. They had a ton of success with transfers, non qualifiers (Power 5 plus Big East can't take these guys out of HS) and some success in the JUCO ranks

Long story short, whether it's us or anyone outside the P5+BE the blue print for success is an all of the above strategy for recruiting. JUCOs, a generous dose of transfers, non qualifiers and traditional high school recruits. Coach Cal is the only guy outside the P5 that I can think of that just out recruited people in the high school ranks.

Xavier, Gonzaga, Wichita State, Butler, Creighton all followed this model to some degree
I would add one other ingredient into the mix for all of the aforementioned schools which is coaching continuity. Either the same coach for over 10-15 years or hiring from within the program. I'm excluding Chreighton who really just got into the Big East because of connections. Their resume was/is no stronger than ours. I would add St. Mary's to this list now. Their recruiting approach is different due to all the Aussies they bring in.
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Wait... his favorite professional sports team is the Steelers? Forget that. I'm out.
Pretty sure Archie was a big fan the late, great Chuck Noll’s team. Kinda glad he stopped by for 6 years....
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Disagree that's true on promoting from within. Thad Matta, Skip Prosser, Pete Gillen and VCU say otherwise. As to Creighton, look at their record 2000 till when they joined the Big East. There's no way an objective observer could say we have equal resumes.

What decisions a program takes to acquire talent in recruiting are independent of coaching continuity or longevity. Any mid major program in the country could try this model

St. Mary's is a good point on the Aussies. Gonzaga has had a lot of success recruiting internationally too over the years.

When Gregory got hired he said he didn't want transfers or JUCOs. He wanted to build a program the traditional way with 4 year guys. Not gonna work here
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When Gregory got hired he said he didn't want transfers or JUCOs. He wanted to build a program the traditional way with 4 year guys. Not gonna work here
AM seemed to find a few useful transfers. Hitting on a transfer is vital to our program.
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When Gregory got hired he said he didn't want transfers or JUCOs. He wanted to build a program the traditional way with 4 year guys. Not gonna work here
Different time. Brian Gregory currently has 7 transfers on his roster at USF. BG is a coach who never seemed adept at evolving in any way, and yet, even he has embraced transfers. You pretty much have to given the shear volume of transfers that is our current reality.

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