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Gem City Pride?! Cheering for WSU to go dancing?

I am. I support Dayton. Itís a great metro area and hope they represent the city. May end up in the first 4
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Heck yeah! And the story about rallying behind Ryan Custer is inspirational. Oh....and I'd take Louden Love right now!

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No chance Wright State gets a 16. No chance Wright State plays First Four. The auto Horizon champ has never gotten less then a 15 IIRC, and Wright State has a great year. Wright State will probably turn us down for a H/H
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Lunardi said if WSU wins a 15 seed and if CSU wins a 16 seed playin in Dayton Tuesday.
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Rooting for Wright State, hope they win.
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You have to basically be a turd to not root for WSU. It doesn't mean I want UD/WSU to play every year in a H/H but I'm happy for them if they win.
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You have to basically be a turd to not root for WSU. It doesn't mean I want UD/WSU to play every year in a H/H but I'm happy for them if they win.
I guess I am a turd. NE Ohio is rooting for Cleve St.
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WSU up 12 with 10m to go.
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Wright St. is looking good- i have some family that graduated there- including my son. I would hate to see them have to play in the first 4 but donít take them for anything less- they have a nice team.
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Announcers just said that Lunardi has WS as a 15. Big thing is that they will be dancing. Got spoiled with 4 straight dances and want more for UD.
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I'm a turd, I like WSU about as much as I like X, UC and M*ch
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Sam Miller's new team is dancing too. Charleston beats Northeaster to win CAA
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You can see quite a few UD fans at Wright State games. In the Dayton area, there are fans who graduated from both universities and/or root for both programs. UD has more than a few Wright State grads attending games at UD arena.

Despite the chatter, UD and Wright State won’t play a regular season game for a long, long time. They really aren’t a rival anymore, just like Ohio State and UC.


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Scott Nagy is a great steal for WSU and Love should be a Flyer.
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its not up to Lunardi, its up to the NCAA select...

but lets go a step further now - just sayin - lets say UD gets on a roll and wins the A10 tournament... you are on the select committee and the opportunity is now right there in front of you lol.... do you pull the trigger and do it? Wright St and UD in the First Four

remember, this is the committee that had in years past had Princeton facing NC, because Princeton had a player named Michael Jordan...

I know, the team is not near deep enough for a tournament run, but if it happened, where would you seed UD and Wright St? just curious
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its not up to Lunardi, its up to the NCAA select...
but lets go a step further now - just sayin - lets say UD gets on a roll and wins the A10 tournament... you are on the select committee and the opportunity is now right there in front of you lol.... do you pull the trigger and do it? Wright St and UD in the First Four
Not possible - only seeds 65-68 and the last 4 at-large teams are eligible for the First Four.
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I know what you are saying, but compare RPI'S, and if WSU is a 14/15, then I would not say impossible given UD'S record and RPI. I agree. I've always figured it impossible for UD to be a sixteen seed, but when you see their record and power ranking, hmmmmm????

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I know what you are saying, but compare RPI'S, and if WSU is a 14/15, then I would not say impossible given UD'S record and RPI. I agree. I've always figured it impossible for UD to be a sixteen seed, but when you see their record and power ranking, hmmmmm????

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Iíd like to see them in the first four. Get to play a winnable game at home on national TV. I donít see WSU winning a game vs a 2 seed so getting an actual game they have a chance to win, would be cool
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It might be fun to watch Wright St. play any of the following local teams:
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I don't see them putting UD in a First Four game again...ever.

The other side to that is UD travels well...why fill the seats of an Arena they are going to fill anyway for the F4 when those seats will travel to wherever UD is playing...especially within a 6-8 hour drive.

Maybe they would pair UD and WSU just like UD and OSU met....but I don't think it would be at UD.

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I see WSU going back to Detroit to face Michigan or Michigan State.
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Shocka43, you sir are inherently biased; and rightfully so. You definitely understand marriage.

The only thing I can say, is GO FLYERS and GO RAIDERS.

The rest of the above conversation is way too rationale. When dealing with the entity known as the NCAA, all bets of sanity are on hold. When you think they won't do this, or they wouldn't do that,etc....lookout.

I think Longtimefan and MrFlyerfanatic have it likely right, that wright state is likely to face X, UC, or a regional B10 school. I'm not predicting their NCAA victories, but if we summarize Wright State's season, they finish second regular season they were the number 2 overall seed, they beat Northern Kentucky in a game, won 25 games, and they are conference tournament champions. That is really getting it done! that is better than good, they are tough. and it certainly wouldn't surprise me if they win a game or two.
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Shocka43, you sir are inherently biased; and rightfully so. You definitely understand marriage.

The only thing I can say, is GO FLYERS and GO RAIDERS.

The rest of the above conversation is way too rationale. When dealing with the entity known as the NCAA, all bets of sanity are on hold. When you think they won't do this, or they wouldn't do that,etc....lookout.

I think Longtimefan and MrFlyerfanatic have it likely right, that wright state is likely to face X, UC, or a regional B10 school. I'm not predicting their NCAA victories, but if we summarize Wright State's season, they finish second regular season they were the number 2 overall seed, they beat Northern Kentucky in a game, won 25 games, and they are conference tournament champions. That is really getting it done! that is better than good, they are tough. and it certainly wouldn't surprise me if they win a game or two.
Actually beat the Norse in both games. They have had a good season and deserve to Dance.
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They did great. They beat the 6 seed, the 7 seed, and the 8 seed in the 26th ranked conference in the country to make the dance.
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They did great. They beat the 6 seed, the 7 seed, and the 8 seed in the 26th ranked conference in the country to make the dance.
I sure hope My Flyers can be so fortunate.
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They did great. They beat the 6 seed, the 7 seed, and the 8 seed in the 26th ranked conference in the country to make the dance.
And therefore deserve to Dance. Not saying they are a great team. Said they had a good season, and as you said, won a conference championship. Although I doubt that was the intention of your post.
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its not up to Lunardi, its up to the NCAA select...

but lets go a step further now - just sayin - lets say UD gets on a roll and wins the A10 tournament... you are on the select committee and the opportunity is now right there in front of you lol.... do you pull the trigger and do it? Wright St and UD in the First Four

remember, this is the committee that had in years past had Princeton facing NC, because Princeton had a player named Michael Jordan...

I know, the team is not near deep enough for a tournament run, but if it happened, where would you seed UD and Wright St? just curious
I don't know the history of the tourney well enough to know the answer to this question. The question is this. Has any 16 seed come from a conference that also had another team in the dance? The A10 has fallen no doubt, but I'm thinking not enough to put a 16 seed in the tournament. Winning a tournament with one sure at large team with at least one more team on the bubble would have to move the conference tournament champion out of the 16 seed I would think.
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WSU Head Coach Scott Nagy is 52 with like 22+ years as a head coach...and his record speaks for itself. I honestly wonder how long he'll be at WSU. Some of those schools accused recently of cheating might be lining up to interview him.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb...tt-nagy-1.html

And at $500k/year, he'd jump at a Big5 offer.

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WSU Head Coach Scott Nagy is 52 with like 22+ years as a head coach...and his record speaks for itself. I honestly wonder how long he'll be at WSU. Some of those schools accused recently of cheating might be lining up to interview him.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb...tt-nagy-1.html

And at $500k/year, he'd jump at a Big5 offer.

https://www.mydaytondailynews.com/sp...ze3NmjUsqj6aP/
He left many of the players on the South Dakota St team that's made the tourney the past two years
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Smile Not the conference

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I don't know the history of the tourney well enough to know the answer to this question. The question is this. Has any 16 seed come from a conference that also had another team in the dance? The A10 has fallen no doubt, but I'm thinking not enough to put a 16 seed in the tournament. Winning a tournament with one sure at large team with at least one more team on the bubble would have to move the conference tournament champion out of the 16 seed I would think.
It's not the conference, it's the school/team that would be seeded. A sixteen seed, just like a one seed, is only a sixteen or a one, as it relates to the schhols/teams in the field. Conference is only a factor, not a seed; and most of said factoring is already in the proof of record and power ranking pudding. At 130+, UD is pretty low for a potential tournament seeding; but let's say it was Fordham, and/or others from the lower part of the A10, do you think they would absolutely avoid the sixteen line?
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below the UD, the A-10 has 11 additional schools ranked 139 through 286; and only three schools in the top 100, and one of those is 80 +. to say the Atlantic 10 Has Fallen is a substantial understatement. the conference is Now Ranked 11th, And HadS Fallen BELOW the Mid-American.

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It's not the conference, it's the school/team that would be seeded. A sixteen seed, just like a one seed, is only a sixteen or a one, as it relates to the schhols/teams in the field. Conference is only a factor, not a seed; and most of said factoring is already in the proof of record and power ranking pudding. At 130+, UD is pretty low for a potential tournament seeding; but let's say it was Fordham, and/or others from the lower part of the A10, do you think they would absolutely avoid the sixteen line?
Can you answer the original question? Then I can answer yours. I realize a conference doesn't get seeded. However, if you win a conference tournament that has one at large and at least one bubble team, you're most likely too good to be seeded 16. And that goes for Fordham also if they should win the tournament.
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Teams like Cleveland State with such abysmal regular season records have no business even sniffing the tournament, but I was pulling for them as they are my "other" alma mater. But it's a moot point now and I'm happy to support any Ohio team as they move on to play in the Dance so best of luck to the Raiders.
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Can you answer the original question? Then I can answer yours. I realize a conference doesn't get seeded. However, if you win a conference tournament that has one at large and at least one bubble team, you're most likely too good to be seeded 16. And that goes for Fordham also if they should win the tournament.
Georgia won the SEC tourney back in like 08 and was a 14 seed with a losing record.

I'd think if we or Fordham won there's a chance we're a 15 or 16 depending on how wins some of the low major tourneys
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Georgia won the SEC tourney back in like 08 and was a 14 seed with a losing record.

I'd think if we or Fordham won there's a chance we're a 15 or 16 depending on how wins some of the low major tourneys
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I'm happy to support any Ohio team as they move on to play in the Dance so best of luck to the Raiders.
We should all be pulling for Xavier to make the Final Four!
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We should all be pulling for Xavier to make the Final Four!
Pushing it there longtime...might have to red card you for that one...
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WSU Head Coach Scott Nagy is 52 with like 22+ years as a head coach...and his record speaks for itself. I honestly wonder how long he'll be at WSU. Some of those schools accused recently of cheating might be lining up to interview him.

https://www.sports-reference.com/cbb...tt-nagy-1.html

And at $500k/year, he'd jump at a Big5 offer.

https://www.mydaytondailynews.com/sp...ze3NmjUsqj6aP/
Do you have any insight on how WSU managed to land Nagy? The only thing I read is that Dayton is closer to family/relatives than South Dakota.

And no offense to WSU, but I bet he could have gone somewhere better. I would be worried about him jumping ship if I was WSU.

That is the way it is these days for low-majors/mid-majors, you win, and your coach is the new hot name, and some other bigger school swoops in and takes him.

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If we're going to root for Wright State we might as well root for Xavier. I thought we wanted schools in Southwestern Ohio to do well. Both are schools we used to play but don't play any longer. Both fan bases hate us and have been bashing, trashing, and making fun of us for years. To Wright State fans we are the Dayton Cryers. Of course I hate Xavier, but I hate Wright State too, so I won't be rooting for either one of them. I see no reason I should root for WSU simply because they are located in Fairborn.
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I don't know any Wright State fans who hate UD.

I don't know any _avier fans who like UD.
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I have no reason to root for xavier. I will however root for WSU. I can admit I have been watching them most of the season. Had to find someone who could win.
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If we're going to root for Wright State we might as well root for Xavier. I thought we wanted schools in Southwestern Ohio to do well. Both are schools we used to play but don't play any longer. Both fan bases hate us and have been bashing, trashing, and making fun of us for years. To Wright State fans we are the Dayton Cryers. Of course I hate Xavier, but I hate Wright State too, so I won't be rooting for either one of them. I see no reason I should root for WSU simply because they are located in Fairborn.
What fan base, outside of players' friends and family and former players is there for Wright State? Have you seen their attendance? I know quite a few Wright State alumni, and they could care less about Wright State basketball.
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If we're going to root for Wright State we might as well root for Xavier. I thought we wanted schools in Southwestern Ohio to do well. Both are schools we used to play but don't play any longer. Both fan bases hate us and have been bashing, trashing, and making fun of us for years. To Wright State fans we are the Dayton Cryers. Of course I hate Xavier, but I hate Wright State too, so I won't be rooting for either one of them. I see no reason I should root for WSU simply because they are located in Fairborn.
I guess I should have clarified, Xavier would be my one exception.
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Not sure why this thread in on here .... still

If Gem City PRIDE wants to have a thread of its own maybe they should start one on a different web site.

Gem City Jam and Gem City Pride should be relegated to the dark web. But hey I know some people like to be charitable, but me and Fairborn U

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I don't know any Wright State fans who hate UD.

I don't know any _avier fans who like UD.
I do. Maybe hate is a strong word (and used far too much in today's world) maybe more like dislike.

I for one dislike both ... so sue me!
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Originally Posted by longtimefan View Post
If we're going to root for Wright State we might as well root for Xavier. I thought we wanted schools in Southwestern Ohio to do well. Both are schools we used to play but don't play any longer. Both fan bases hate us and have been bashing, trashing, and making fun of us for years. To Wright State fans we are the Dayton Cryers. Of course I hate Xavier, but I hate Wright State too, so I won't be rooting for either one of them. I see no reason I should root for WSU simply because they are located in Fairborn.
This is pretty much I look at it also. I don't have the level of hatred for WSU that I do for xavier though. I won't root for them or against them, I just feel indifference towards them. Basically, I could care less.

xavier is a different story though. I don't think I've ever hated a team or program in any sport or level more than I do them. And before someone accuses me of hating them because of their success, it has nothing to do with that. Just look at what happened at the end of their game yesterday with St. John's, and you'll understand where my hate comes from. Don't recall watching too many of their games without seeing technicals flying, fights, or watching Mack having to be held back by his assistants from going after officials. They win, but they do with zero class or dignity, and their clueless obnoxious fans are oblivious to it, or simply do not care. Watching them lose in the first round would be pure joy for me.
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Wright State is just another mid-major potential Cinderella. Wright State doesn't big-time us or keep us out of conferences. I've never had a Wright State fan in a wheelchair try to bait me into a fight after an animated discussion including a personal insult at UD Arena(I didn't). Wright State has never had a player fight dogs. Wright State has never had it's stars want to put players in body bags. Wright State never had their star sleep with an assistant coaches wife(yes, it did happen). Wright State never had a player hold up a 7/11 with a pistol. Wright State never had a player **** on the dance floor in a nightclub. Wright State never had a coach nod at me and accept my "You run a clean program" comment at a Reds Opening Day. Wright State has never had a player rip a water fountain out of the wall during a road game. Vitaly Potapenko aside, Wright State is easy to root for.

"F" _avier. if you are rooting for _avier you aren't a fan of my Flyers. Ding me all you want but if you are rooting for _avier in any capacity, you ARE NOT a fan of my Flyers.

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This is pretty much I look at it also. I don't have the level of hatred for WSU that I do for xavier though. I won't root for them or against them, I just feel indifference towards them. Basically, I could care less.

xavier is a different story though. I don't think I've ever hated a team or program in any sport or level more than I do them. And before someone accuses me of hating them because of their success, it has nothing to do with that. Just look at what happened at the end of their game yesterday with St. John's, and you'll understand where my hate comes from. Don't recall watching too many of their games without seeing technicals flying, fights, or watching Mack having to be held back by his assistants from going after officials. They win, but they do with zero class or dignity, and their clueless obnoxious fans are oblivious to it, or simply do not care. Watching them lose in the first round would be pure joy for me.


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Hating _avier is easy to understand, but Wright State??? Hating them is like hating a Ford because you can afford a Lexus. They're harmless.... Let them have their fun. It'll be short lived.
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My hatred is so deep that I can't watch a X-avier game on TV. J.P. Macura is a total punk and adversely affects my mental health. I'd rather watch Wright State play Youngstown State in January than any X-avier game.
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We should all be pulling for Xavier to make the Final Four!
Never...no way, not a chance in hell would I ever root for _avier
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