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Old 11-26-2013, 02:30 AM
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The key to our success: Kav

As in, when he's not playing the last 2 games we have outscored 2 BCS opponents by about 50 points. I'm interested to see the plus / minus.

I'm pretty disappointed in Miller for playing him so much the last 2 games when he's been such a clear anchor (in a bad way). I'm not for taking away his scholarship but the last 2 games he's been worse than awful. Conversely we seem to play really, REALLY good when Robinson is the backup center--and even when Robinson is playing PF along with Scott.

Now, having said that, if this was our most recent former coach, I think Kav would play 25 minutes per game no matter what so I have to turn right around and give Miller major props for seeing the in-game situation and subbing out Kav.

What does Robinson need to do to get more PT? He has not played bad defense -- actually pretty darn good position defense and we know he can rebound like an animal given the PT. And he can score. My only guess is that he's lazy in practice??? I personally don't see any other reason he's not playing more.

Great team win, and, I have to say very good in-game coaching by Miller. Thankfully not everyone choked on their FT's to preserve the win!
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Let the negativity sleep at 2:30. Enjoy the win!

Their center fouled out. If Kavs doesn't play maybe OUR center fouls out? He has fouls to give, he can get offensive rebounds and he can shoot FT's. he has his place on this TEAM.
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I agree, and if you recall I'm one of the people saying it's silly to say things like "bench him!" But he's really, really playing bad. When the +/- comes out I think it will be uuuuuugly.
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Originally Posted by springborofan View Post
Let the negativity sleep at 2:30. Enjoy the win!

Their center fouled out. If Kavs doesn't play maybe OUR center fouls out? He has fouls to give, he can get offensive rebounds and he can shoot FT's. he has his place on this TEAM.
I posted positive elsewhere...this is stretching it.
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Old 11-26-2013, 02:51 AM
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Personal coaching perspective by the head coach, and the other factors of game outcomes were not very much, if any, related to Kavs being on the bench. Not even close!
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Old 11-26-2013, 07:57 AM
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Is it really negativity when it's just the plain hard truth? Looked like a totally different team in the second half. The one constant not there.... Our boy who wasn't allowed to attend the University last year
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Old 11-26-2013, 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by springborofan View Post
Let the negativity sleep at 2:30. Enjoy the win!

Their center fouled out. If Kavs doesn't play maybe OUR center fouls out? He has fouls to give, he can get offensive rebounds and he can shoot FT's. he has his place on this TEAM.
I say we give him player of the game
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Old 11-26-2013, 08:22 AM
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I understand he's a senior and the coaching staff doesn't want to show they've lost faith in him. But Scott needs to start.
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Old 11-26-2013, 08:25 AM
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This is a team sport... and it looks to me that the players have bought in to that. They win as a team, and they will lose as a team. All the Kav haters can have their field day now, but he will be a significant contributor to this "team" as the season goes on. We will need him and apopreciate him as the season progresses.
I for one will not click on this topic again...... so as to not feed the haters.....
Nice win and GO FLYERS!
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Old 11-26-2013, 08:26 AM
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Honestly, if you can look sell at what #35 does on the court, not sure how you and form any positive statements. His play is beyond awful. And I would t give him minutes until it improves. If his play is solid in practice, the. I give him Robinsons current minutes in games and split 35s between Scott and Robinson. You don't get more till you prove you deserve more.
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Old 11-26-2013, 08:32 AM
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I'm not saying Kavs is doing great things and I agree that he has been playing awful. I just don't get why a new thread needs to start after a HUGE win? I agree that Kavs minutes need to be limited. It may be that AM wants Scott to come in after a few minutes so he settles down. Scott has shown a propensity to draw quick fouls.

For teams that are smaller, I could see Jalen and Scott getting a bulk of the minutes at the 5 with Pollard getting time at the 4. I think Jalen would have been pushed around by the big guy last night.
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Kavs has been trying to do things he isn't good at, like shooting from the perimeter and scoring over people. If he wants more minutes he'll have to focus on defending and rebounding and not worry about the points.

Last night Scott got the ball in the post a number of times and never once made a bad decision. He scored, got a couple of assist or just moved the ball. Kavs has been making poor decisions when he gets the ball in the post, if there doesn't change he will spending a lot more time next to Archie.
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Just don't see any reason, in the shadow of what arguably is our most significant win in years, why we see it necessary to skewer one of the team members. While we're at it, why don't we point out that the worthless walkons haven't won a game for us ever. Nice thread.

The simple message here is Scott deserves more minutes. End of story.
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I like Kavs... I really believe he can be a valuable piece to the puzzle this year BUT this game Tonight against Baylor he shouldn't play not because of how he has played recently just the Baylor athleticism would own him.

I want a heavy dose of Devon, JRob and maybe some Big A, who has more athleticism than Kav
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Old 11-26-2013, 09:10 AM
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getting minutes is not complicated. work hard in practice and then when you get in the game play within yourself and make good decisions. Kendall Pollard has been patient and he was ready to grab his opportunity when it strolled by. He had played a few minutes here and there but was patient and didn't force things when he got in the game.
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As in, when he's not playing the last 2 games we have outscored 2 BCS opponents by about 50 points.
Is this referring to Gonzaga as BCS?
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If Scott starts, give him 30 minutes a game, and then see if he has a double double every night. Don't look for it! Incredible that some of you would make this comparison of first half with Kavs (for only a few minutes mind you) versus the second half without him as they both relate to total team first and second half performance. Because by that standard the entire team stinks, and should take a seat and give up their minutes or starting roles. Please, how sophomoric can you get? Anybody playing 26 minutes is bound to get a few points and a few rebounds. Kav could have played the entire second half, and it doesn't mean that UD takes a loss. For that matter where is Jalen Robinson in the rotation...what the heck happened with that?

How about we start Devon Scott, wait to he makes a couple of mistakes or misses a shot, or bricks another free-throw, and then yank him and let Jalen play the rest of the game? Kind of stupid idea if there ever was one....just like the player hating on this board against Kavs. I have posted it before, so here it is again, don't expect Devon Scott at 6"9 to dominate the front line of major college basketball over a 35 game stretch, just not going to happen.

Scott looked better in the second half last night, because his teammates hit a bunch of three pointers in the second half to help the cause.

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Kavanaugh only played seven minutes last night - complaining over that is nit-picking.
His job is to help wear down their bigs, collect some rebounds, give some fouls.
I think Archie knows what he is doing.

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Kavanaugh only played seven minutes last night - complaining over that is nit-picking.
His job is to help wear down their bigs, collect some rebounds, give some fouls.
I think Archie knows what he is doing.

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Especially since Scott got a bulk of the minutes. At this point Arch may not want to mess with chemistry, so he will probably keep Scott coming off the bench. What I really like is that Scott comes in and gets into the flow immediately. Love his physicality and overall I like the way the guys seem to feed off of each other.
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I trust Archie to decide how much any particular player plays to give this team it's best chance to win. Every aspect of the game fits together as a piece of the final puzzle.
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MK played 8 minutes against Georgia Tech
7 minutes against Gonzaga
Archie saw what MK was doing on the court and responded with bench time.
I don't care who starts but I don't like UD digging an 8 point hole at the start of the game. Start someone else. anyone.
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Originally Posted by Beatty Town Coach View Post
Incredible that some of you would make this comparison of first half with Kavs (for only a few minutes mind you) versus the second half without him as they both relate to total team first and second half performance. Because by that standard the entire team stinks, and should take a seat and give up their minutes or starting roles. Please, how sophomoric can you get?
don't expect a huge following Coach especially when you make solid points like above...we get a big win a half a world away on national tv against a college hoops darling and all some of the Flyer Faithful can utter is some hate on 1 of the players on our roster.

It was agreat win last night but there were plenty of Flyer mistakes players and coach alike but its traditional among fans to gloss over mistakes when we win and enjoy the victory...not sure what ails this group.
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MK played 8 minutes against Georgia Tech
7 minutes against Gonzaga
Archie saw what MK was doing on the court and responded with bench time.
I don't care who starts but I don't like UD digging an 8 point hole at the start of the game. Start someone else. anyone.
So, let me get this straight, UD was down 8 early because Kav was in the game? Wow, that's pretty incredible leap...right off an Hawaii Cliff.

It reminds that a number of you on this board were all ready to write off Price as the number 1 option at Point Guard this season, but I can tell you that if anyone needed yanked last night, it was his backup. This team wouldn't be functioning right now without Price as the main point.

Another player who had some thinking errors last night was VEE. What in the heck was he thinking in the last two minutes when we got the rebound, with the lead mind you, and he instantly steps back and fires a three? That about cost UD the game.

This a team sport, and if previous starters, stars, and major scorers on the team have to embrace a lesser backup role (as it relates to scoring and minutes, etc.), then so be it. But don't go making these erroneous comparisons about how UD was down eight due to the performance on one player. The hole team looked bad in the first fifteen minutes, simple as that. If were so good that guys like Vee and Kavs, and Jalen, and AG, don't see the light of day, then great, show me a final four.
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Just don't see any reason, in the shadow of what arguably is our most significant win in years, why we see it necessary to skewer one of the team members. While we're at it, why don't we point out that the worthless walkons haven't won a game for us ever. Nice thread.

The simple message here is Scott deserves more minutes. End of story.
You're all waaay off base on what I'm saying. Repeat: Kav is currently playing really poorly, and nearly cost us both of the prior 2 games. Yes, in only 15 minutes he nearly cost us both games. He was that bad in the minutes he was on the floor.

I am not skewering a team member, I am just discussing what is going wrong and what is going right. At this moment of the season, Kav is like gasoline on a fire. Everything he's involved in is going very wrong. He needs to get right if we're going to be the best team we can be.

I expect him to start the game on the bench tonight, Scott has more than earned it. He hasn't been a little better the last 2 games (all season??), he's been exponentially better.
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Being the superstitious type, as long as we keep winning, Kavs keeps starting as we do not change anything starting line up wise. Scott coming off the bench brings some new energy into the lineup.

At the under 4 TV timeout of the first half last night I did a few arm curls, we made a run. Not wanting to jinx us, I did arm curls again at every timeout the rest of the game. I hurt like heck today.

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Especially since Scott got a bulk of the minutes. At this point Arch may not want to mess with chemistry, so he will probably keep Scott coming off the bench. What I really like is that Scott comes in and gets into the flow immediately. Love his physicality and overall I like the way the guys seem to feed off of each other.
Archie was pretty quick to move Vee to the bench for Sibert. So it wouldn't surprise me to see him make a move.

But it's not a bad thing at all to get your best big guy on the court at the 16:00 minute mark clear of foul trouble. Especially when as stated, that big guy seems to be able to get into the flow easily.

It is indeed nit-picking to debate when exactly Kavs gets his 7 to 8 minutes a game. Honestly, the better debate at this point is whether Gavrilovic should start getting some of those minutes I think. That said, there's no way Kavs is as bad as he's looked. He's definitely pressing.
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This redefines "skewering" my friend--

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*Kav is currently playing really poorly
*nearly cost us both of the prior 2 games.
*in only 15 minutes he nearly cost us both games
*He was that bad in the minutes he was on the floor.
*Kav is like gasoline on a fire.
*Everything he's involved in is going very wrong.
*I expect him to start the game on the bench tonight
How can you post that garbage only minutes after the most scintillating win
in years?

I rest my case. The simple message is Scott deserves more minutes.
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I really think Archie is just trying to get him going. It's worked with other players. The reality is, the current Kav is nowhere as good as the one we had two seasons ago. Let's hope he can get it going and make a better contribution. With three games in three days he needs to get some minutes. I'm pulling for the kid to be what we know he can be!
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Yeah, he is pressing, no question. And, Jay Bilas and Sean McDonough mentioned that the coaching staff feels that Kav is pressing. And yes Furio I watched every second of the GT and Gonzaga game, but part of what Kav suffers from is that he plays for a team and a program that simply has not demonstrated the ability in recent years to timely make an entrance pass to the low post. You have to make that pass when the post player has his guy sealed off, and no matter who is in the post for UD, this program has stunk it-up at this task for many years. We have a lot of love to dribble guards and forwards, so true post-up players tend only get passes thrown to them when the defense has had an extra couple of seconds to get caught-up, or the ref has already counted to five, as to make a three second call way to obvious when the finally decide to make that pass. This is coaching short coming, it was horrible under BG and Archie is only a little better, if at all. So don't expect the post players in this program to succeed with back to the basket, seal your man-off, type of scoring. Especially when few of the teammates actually look for that as an option. I think Coach Miller perhaps is yanking Kav a little too quickly, or at least not letting the game develop toward him and thus simply not playing him.
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Being the superstitious type, as long as we keep winning, Kavs keeps starting as we do not change anything starting line up wise. Scott coming off the bench brings some new energy into the lineup.

At the under 4 TV timeout of the first half last night I did a few arm curls, we made a run. Not wanting to jinx us, I did arm curls again at every timeout the rest of the game. I hurt like heck today.

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even if you make the post pass to Kavs he can't score over the defender ... although he will take the shot. He is only effective when he can get on the side of the defender, although at GT Miller blocked his shots anyway. Kavs is making poor decisions and that is the real problem. I have the same feeling I did when the Flyers would throw the ball into Huelsman ... something bad is lot more likely to happen than something good.

Kavs isn't a shell of his former set he just doesn't have Dillard running the pick and roll and getting him 2-3 uncontested layups a game. Without a doubt Kavs was the guy that benefited the most from playing with Dillard.

Scott got the ball in the post multiple times in the second half and he made good decisions and didn't force his offense. He made the best pass of the game when he got doubled, it was a wraparound pass to Sibert on the weak side for a wide open three.

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Originally Posted by ClaytonFlyerFan View Post
Being the superstitious type, as long as we keep winning, Kavs keeps starting as we do not change anything starting line up wise. Scott coming off the bench brings some new energy into the lineup.

At the under 4 TV timeout of the first half last night I did a few arm curls, we made a run. Not wanting to jinx us, I did arm curls again at every timeout the rest of the game. I hurt like heck today.

Geeze, just realized who I am sounding like on here talking about arm curls, someone please shoot me
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So, let me get this straight, UD was down 8 early because Kav was in the game? Wow, that's pretty incredible leap...right off an Hawaii Cliff.
Did you watch the game last night? Did you watch the Georgia Tech game? The Flyers started in a hole mainly due to #35. Did others contribute to the poor starts? Yes. But none of them contributed to the poor starts as much as #35.

Devon deserves to start. Jalen deserves to back him up. #35 or Gavs deserves to spell the two of them when they need a breather or if they get in foul trouble. I wouldn't be against putting Gav in there ahead of #35 with the way he's been playing this year.
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Scott got the ball in the post multiple times in the second half and he made good decisions and didn't force his offense. He made the best pass of the game when he got doubled, it was a wraparound pass to Sibert on the weak side for a wide open three.
That pass was a bullet! I honestly expected it to land in the 3rd row when it left his hands, but it was perfectly on target and Siebert made a clean catch with no bobble. A thing of beauty.
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What Sea Bass said. To me 35 looks like be always has without Dillard creating open layups on pick and roll. Play Scott and Robinson.
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Scott is a sophomore who had limited minutes last year. He will have good days and bad days. He still has holes in his game.

Everyone has seen Kav play better before. I would hope he lifts his game so there would be more options in the center position.
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How can you post that garbage only minutes after the most scintillating win
in years?
Because. . . it's true??

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I rest my case. The simple message is Scott deserves more minutes.
You can rest on the bed if you want, I did not say anything outrageous or derogatory. Kav's own mother would agree. He's not playing well at all, we were a better team in the last 2 games when he was on the bench. Fact. If I were being outrageous I would say something like "he should never see the floor again" but instead I'm saying "Kav you need to get better, you're playing terrible right now."

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If Scott plays like he has, he will get the majority of the minutes. There may be strategy behind it on AM's part, but IMO it would appear to be more of him wanting MK to show up. If he doesn't I see his role slipping.

They are winning and playing very well. But there isn't much to defend on MK. Yes...he may be the victim of not getting the ball on a clean entry as much as he would like. Tough...deal with it. Scott isn't having trouble with the same guards. MK is slow on D, is forcing shots over defenders, and is going away from contact. Last night it was obvious due to his unwillingness to draw contact on their big. The others attacked, and that is why MK was glued to the bench in the second half...he wasn't playing aggressive.

If MK gets his head out of his shorts and starts playing like the MK from two seasons ago, it takes this ball team to a whole different level given the production of Scott and the ability to go big with two serviceable post players. If MK doesn't get his head back...we may be in trouble in the paint if Scott ends up in foul trouble against a team with a solid interior. He will pick up fouls and right now we need more than Jalen to put in quality minutes.
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You're all waaay off base on what I'm saying. Repeat: Kav is currently playing really poorly, and nearly cost us both of the prior 2 games. Yes, in only 15 minutes he nearly cost us both games. He was that bad in the minutes he was on the floor.

I am not skewering a team member, I am just discussing what is going wrong and what is going right. At this moment of the season, Kav is like gasoline on a fire. Everything he's involved in is going very wrong. He needs to get right if we're going to be the best team we can be.

I expect him to start the game on the bench tonight, Scott has more than earned it. He hasn't been a little better the last 2 games (all season??), he's been exponentially better.
No one player in a team sport, played over 40 minutes, costs you a game. Just as a blown layup at the buzzer of a one-point loss costs a team the game. You can find a couple dozen missed opportunity over 40 minutes x 5 players.

We get it, Gazoo. You've allowed your feelings for MK being allowed to return fog your vision. I get caught often watching in anger a kid with DMO's talent jogging down court in transition, probably because I watched Jim Paxson bust it and get sooo many layups on feeds from Jack Zimmerman that it was laughable.

You might be better off showing Rollo's restraint (can't believe I actually typed that) when it comes to all issues MK.
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No one player in a team sport, played over 40 minutes, costs you a game. Just as a blown layup at the buzzer of a one-point loss costs a team the game. You can find a couple dozen missed opportunity over 40 minutes x 5 players.

We get it, Gazoo. You've allowed your feelings for MK being allowed to return fog your vision. I get caught often watching in anger a kid with DMO's talent jogging down court in transition, probably because I watched Jim Paxson bust it and get sooo many layups on feeds from Jack Zimmerman that it was laughable.

You might be better off showing Rollo's restraint (can't believe I actually typed that) when it comes to all issues MK.
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No one player in a team sport, played over 40 minutes, costs you a game. Just as a blown layup at the buzzer of a one-point loss costs a team the game. You can find a couple dozen missed opportunity over 40 minutes x 5 players.

We get it, Gazoo. You've allowed your feelings for MK being allowed to return fog your vision. I get caught often watching in anger a kid with DMO's talent jogging down court in transition, probably because I watched Jim Paxson bust it and get sooo many layups on feeds from Jack Zimmerman that it was laughable.

You might be better off showing Rollo's restraint (can't believe I actually typed that) when it comes to all issues MK.
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Looks to me like Archie will give MK what he earns this year. I like what I saw in how he (Archie) handled things last night. Kavs can work it out and be a big part of this team, or he can get overtaken by Scott and Pollard. I like the competition. Too much talent on this team to make it all about seniority. And let's face it, Kavs gave up the kind of respect he would have had if he had not gotten in trouble. That's life buddy. Now get after it and show us something! GO FLYERS!!!!
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I thought Pollard was our secret weapon last night. Finished with contact in tight. He reminds me a bit of Ryan Perryman.

Price was ever so steady.

Did not to see GT game (in air to Maui) but I know Scoochie had a ton of steals. Saw some of that ability last night - anticipates well. He now needs to start finishing at the rim. He will be good.

Kav - nuf said

Scott - played well and under control.

Sibert - big shot after big shot. Still can't figure out why his FT percentage is as low as it is. His form is near perfect.

Oliver - really good around the rim. Forget the 3. Let others handle that.

Pierre - the kid hit em from the line under pressure when others did not

Robinson - gave us just enough

Sanford - not one of his better games

Crowd - lots of Flyer fans - even more Zags fans. Made for a fun gym.

Refs - uniformly bad - but with our depth it helped us more.

When the Zabs went to full court pressure, our offense was able to keep generating points.

Thought maybe the Price turnover late (stepped on line after inbounds pass) when we were up 5 with the ball might cost us

Would not want to get into a FT shooting contest with the Zags unless Archie could play.

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Plus/minus data on MK this year
http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/pla...ugh/plus_minus
Very interesting, viewing the game it seemed even worse for Kav (and it was pretty bad on the stat sheet). No one can touch his +/- for the season, and for those of you scoring at home (or even if you're by yourself) those are factual statistics not fog covered glasses. Take the "facts" of this statistic with the appropriate grain of salt, of course.

This showed Robinson and Scott played pretty well the last 2 games against some pretty good competition in the paint. I hope both can keep it up, and I hope Kav can get back on track.

It's not impossible to imagine that Kav is sick--it might be why he's played with so little energy.
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I'm just happier than icy Blue Point clams on the half shell that the Flyers actually have other, viable options in the front court. **** happy. Lemme have another dozen, extra hot sauce!!!
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Will you be having a Long Island Iced Tea with that?
You know that's a very good suggestion....one or two pre-game can't hurt right?
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Just for the record, much better game by Kav. I hope this gives him his confidence back and he starts contributing more.
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Just for the record, much better game by Kav. I hope this gives him his confidence back and he starts contributing more.
Perhaps, but he had at least 2 shots stuffed.
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Perhaps, but he had at least 2 shots stuffed.
At least.....he gets stuffed every time he goes up with the ball. I know that Kav's is no threat to break the world record for highest vertical leap, but you'd think he has to know that his Nike's are made out of cement, and therefore he would at least try to DEVELOP some kind of a head-n-shoulder fake...ball fake....hidden ball trick...anything other than continually going straight up against more athletic bigs, who block your shot 85% of the time.

Its like driving your car into the same pothole day after day after day.....

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On one of the two blocks, he head faked his defender out of the play and was blocked from behind which is an easier block. It happens. He will never be an offensive stud, if you don't know that by now, you haven't been paying attention.
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He will never be an offensive stud, if you don't know that by now, you haven't been paying attention.
no, but he did average 9 pts on 54% shooting his jr year. This year? 23%. Just abysmal
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On one of the two blocks, he head faked his defender out of the play and was blocked from behind which is an easier block. It happens. He will never be an offensive stud, if you don't know that by now, you haven't been paying attention.
yea...I get that. BUT Kavs should be able to find a little room to operate somewhere in the vast expanse between "offensive stud" and "blocked brick machine."
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no, but he did average 9 pts on 54% shooting his jr year. This year? 23%. Just abysmal
That's because Dillar created two to three uncontested layups for him each game.
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Devon Scott,Jalen Robinson and Alex Gavrilovic should all be getting the minutes at the 5. Kavs is a Low-tier MAC center. Not being a hater just stating facts. He makes Kurt Huelsman look like Mark Ashman
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