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Originally Posted by Flyer Al View Post
NBC Sports picks a Dayton non-conference game as one of the 33 best in College Basketball. I won't spoil the surprise.

https://collegebasketball.nbcsports....-in-2019-2020/

Interesting that Davidson and VCU also have games on this list.
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Good piece by Archdeacon posted 9-27 when Grant returned to Miami to participate in a clinic for coaches.(don't think it's been posted anywhere)
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Look for the Flyers to have a mirror-image non season compared to last year's non con. They will absolutely hold serve with teams they should beat but probably won't be able to take down some of the extremely strong teams that they will face.

This, IMHO, will be due to experience, incredible defense (Grant finally has his kind of horses) and, more than anything, tough games that are really tough, and easy games that are really easy.

Look for UD to beat UGA (getting Anthony Edwards in Hawaii at 9:30 am will be as fish out of water as it gets for a freshman). Other than that, depending who they get in the losers bracket after MSU, they could go o-fer in all the rest of the neutral site games. CU and St. Mary's, I think, will just be too good.

We will hold serve at home, though a couple of teams are a bit better than you would think, and go 9-4 (10-3 if we draw the right team in the loser's bracket).

The conference, I think, will be the same thing, with us being stellar against inferior teams, but not winning really tough games. Since we only get Davidson at home, I see us only dropping 3: to VCU, RI, and Duquesne, all on the road. 24-7 or even 25-6, again, depending on our loser's bracket draw. Could be anywhere from a 4 (if we win the A-10 tourney) to a 10 if we tank in the 1st round.
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Old 10-10-2019, 02:06 PM
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Not directly related:


https://www.elevenwarriors.com/ohio-...oward-izzo-ish


But Micah Potter was just denied his shot at immediate eligibility to play basketball this season at Wisconsin. While the circumstances behind this case are different than the circumstances behind Chase Johnson's case, hopefully this means we will know an answer to when Chase is eligible to play basketball for UD soon.
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Old 10-10-2019, 03:24 PM
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Waivers have been trickling in for awhile now. They'll get to Chase's eventually and hopefully in our favor.
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Old 10-11-2019, 01:53 PM
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I'm not familiar with this site but they list UD at the top of their underrated team list.
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Tom Crean, Georgia Bulldogs
It wasn't a banner season in Athens in Crean's first go-round, but Georgia also hit some bad luck. During their nine-game losing streak in January and February, the Bulldogs had a four-game stretch in which they lost by a combined nine points. They were 2-11 in games decided by 10 or fewer points, 1-7 in games decided by single digits. So in order to improve, Crean's team will have to be on the right side of variance.

But while Hardaway reeling in the No. 1 recruiting class at Memphis has generated plenty of attention, Crean landing the No. 5 recruiting class in his first full cycle at Georgia has flown a bit under the radar. The Bulldogs are not considered a lock to make the NCAA tournament, which should allow the freshmen to get their feet wet without a microscope on them. Potential No. 1 NBA draft pick Anthony Edwards is the headliner, but Christian Brown, Jaykwon Walton and Sahvir Wheeler were all ESPN 100 prospects as well.

The SEC is going to be wide-open this season outside of Kentucky and Florida, with a very large middle of the pack pushing to make the NCAA tournament. Georgia should be in that pack.

https://www.espn.com/mens-college-ba...ing-stagnating
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Old 10-15-2019, 02:12 PM
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From Jabo... Got some quotes about the team from a few people:

Brooks Hall: "Everybody’s asking how Dayton’s going to be this year, and what I say to everybody is on paper — and unfortunately games aren’t played on paper — this might be the most talented top-to-bottom roster we’ve ever seen at Dayton."

Keith Waleskowski: "I certainly think there’s a ton of potential, a ton of upside to this team. A lot of it’s based on guys who haven’t necessarily played, that we haven’t seen in live action yet. But those guys aren’t coming in as rookies/new recruits. They’re guys that are established, guys that are a little more grown and physically mature. They’ve just had to sit out because of transfer rules. But I think they bring a lot to the table in addition to the core that we already have."

Bucky: ""Mikesell is Mr. Steady, the MVP, I think. ... Ibi Watson could lead us in scoring. ... The guy that has impressed me most this year is Jordy. He's worked his ass off. ... Crutcher looks unbelievable."
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Old 10-15-2019, 03:31 PM
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When do season tickets normally get mailed?
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The thing that stood out to me the most in Bucky's quote, was the thing that wasn't mentioned.... He doesn't mention potentiall all league and lottery man Obi. There is indeed great potential on this squad; can't wait for it to unfold.
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Old 10-15-2019, 04:52 PM
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When do season tickets normally get mailed?
Received an email yesterday from the ticket office that they are "coming soon".
They had 700+ requests for seat upgrades and are still working through that process.
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Old 10-15-2019, 05:35 PM
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25 days until the first regular season game.
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According to the DDN 11,792 season tickets have been sold. That is a ridiculous number. You can't get 400 level seats - they are sold out. UD holds 1100 tickets for students and more for visiting teams and for internal use. If you want season tickets now you would have to get club seats. Also, three of the four terrace suites are sold out, and UD is holding the tickets for the fourth. Every game should be a sellout or near sellout this season. Let's hope the team lives up to the hype! (They will.)
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According to the DDN 11,792 season tickets have been sold. That is a ridiculous number. You can't get 400 level seats - they are sold out. UD holds 1100 tickets for students and more for visiting teams and for internal use. If you want season tickets now you would have to get club seats. Also, three of the four terrace suites are sold out, and UD is holding the tickets for the fourth. Every game should be a sellout or near sellout this season. Let's hope the team lives up to the hype! (They will.)
Nothing short of amazing!
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Old 10-18-2019, 03:14 AM
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I was thinking about the team today and jotted some random notes down:

- I'm excited to see Crutcher's development, especially on defense, especially since he will probably rarely be asked to play 35+ minutes.

- the total offensive contribution from the 2 and 3 spots combined last year was downright pathetic. If Crutcher/Chatman/Watson/Cohill/Landers/Matos/Mikesell*/Toppin* can't be significantly collectively better than Crutcher/Davis/Landers/Cohill/Matos**/Mikesell/Pololicelli were last year, I'll eat my hat.

*-yes, these two will likely see some minutes at the 3
**-he's excused for only playing in 5+ games obviously
***-lack of depth excuses some of last year for this group

-Mikesell just got better and better throughout the season last year, presumably as he found confidence in his body and familiarity with his teammates, only two of whom (Cunningham and Landers) he had ever played with before (and both of them were hurt for much of Ryan's sophomore season)

- Landers is a great team leader, and I don't he cares a ton about his minutes/stats except in the context of how it helps the team win.

-As good as a player as Toppin is, my favorite part of watching him play is his interaction with his team. I truly believe he loves his coaches, teammates, and fans, and they love him back. I hope he's an NBA first round pick next summer even though it will cost me two years of watching him at the Arena.

- I'm worried about where the 3 balls are going to come from despite the de-emphasis by the NCAA and the rule change.

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Sheg, great post

I think not only Crutcher but everyone knowing there's more depth will have more energy and a chance to be more aggressive without worrying about foul trouble

The offensive production from the 2 spot and particularly Jordan Davis was just too inconsistent.
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Three point shooting is the elephant in the room. Shoot like last year and we will get a similar result. Most of those shooters are back, so that can be good or bad. Obi will be taking many more threes. Hopefully his shot selection and percentage are good. Three of the new guys and Matos are potentially very good. Ibi is the one guy rumored to be above average.
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Three point shooting is the elephant in the room. Shoot like last year and we will get a similar result.
I agree with your broader point, but this team could shoot poorly from three and still work a good deal of the A10. There's too much size and athleticism on this roster. If they don't shoot well, they won't be able to beat the upper crust of the conference or make any waves in the tournament, but I think they can flat-out bully half of the A10.

That said, you're right. It'll be a mighty frustrating year if the three-point shot doesn't materialize. Outside of Toppin's limited attempts, nobody (including Chatman and Watson at previous stops) shot better than Crutcher's 36.3% in their most recent season. That's mighty discouraging. Here's hoping Watson makes a post-transfer leap like Charles Cooke (his 3P% went from .298 to .399), and some offseason improvement along with increased freshness pushes the team's shooting to a more respectable standard.
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I love, love, love having more bigs, and some very physical bigs to boot. In recent years we have rebounded poorly compared to what Dayton teams have done historically. Jordy is my favorite addition at this point because he is exactly what we have been lacking since losing Big Steve.

I wonder about that physical dimension of the team when Jordy is not playing, but we will just have to see what the new guys bring. A deficiency there only shows up against top 50 teams, IMO.

The 3pt shooting could really stand improvement as well. It could be the difference between us being good and great.

I have given coach a pass on the mediocre defense because of our depth the last few years. I am expecting a lot more emphasis on that this year because we should not be trying to nurse a limited line-up through all 40 minutes by saving energy and avoiding foul trouble this year. I expect a lot more effort there. We need to be a lot more aggressive defensively.

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It's why I really wanted to add McNeil in the off-season. But clearly the coaches didn't see a fit (I'm guessing it was team chemistry related) and I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt.
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Article with a few more quotes from our WHIO radio commentators
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My favorite quotes (and I love the entire article Lifelong linked):

Bockhorn: Crutcher looks unbelievable.

Bockhorn: The guy that most impresses me this year is Jordy (Tshimanga). He’s in shape. He’s worked his (butt) off...

Waleskowski: Jordy is a big-time inside presence, a true center. It’s been a while since we’ve had someone as big and tall. Steve McElvene would be the most recent who had those physical characteristics.

Bockhorn: Ibi Watson could lead us in scoring...

Hall: It’s funny. Everybody said (last year) the best player on Dayton’s team wasn’t even playing, and that was Ibi.
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In my memory, each time I have heard Bockhorn and Hansgen give their pre-season opinions of the players, they end up being more accurate than all of the speculation by everyone else. I guess it makes sense because they have such heavy access during the off-season.
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Hall: this might be the most talented top-to-bottom roster we’ve ever seen at Dayton. They should easily be a top-25 team, maybe top 15. That’s the kind of talent they have.

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Fatal Flaws article. #17 SMU and #24 VCU listed. SMU comments are interesting.

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Fatal Flaws article. #17 SMU and #24 VCU listed. SMU comments are interesting.

https://collegebasketball.nbcsports....-the-rankings/
You had me confused....weíre playing SMU ponies? I believe it is SMC. Not sure why St. Maryís call themselves a College instead of a University?
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Only 14 days until the regular season starts (but 18 days for us to wait for the first UD game). Who's getting excited?
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Only 14 days until the regular season starts (but 18 days for us to wait for the first UD game). Who's getting excited?

I'm excited for the exhibition game in eleven days.
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Feels like he's missing something on UD (#37) but we are all in a wait and see approach.
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Feels like he's missing something on UD (#37) but we are all in a wait and see approach.
Cincinnati #12...unexpected IMO
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Question, until this article, I didn't realize that Davidson returned all 5 starters from last years squad. Its easy to assume they will be as strong as last year, but how much room for improvement is there? Can they improve much upon what they already are?
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Under VCU's paragraph it calls VCU one of the A-10's "three most important programs." We have to assume that UD is one of the other two programs. So, nice debate topic, is there a clear cut program for the other most important program? While Davidson is loaded this year, would most outside observers think the conference is dependent upon them? Possibly but, if not them, would it be Rhode Island? St. Louis?
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To use a military analysis, most preseason folks see the Flyers as coming out of basic training with a bunch of raw recruits. We see it as more the Allies storming Normandy
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Under VCU's paragraph it calls VCU one of the A-10's "three most important programs." We have to assume that UD is one of the other two programs. So, nice debate topic, is there a clear cut program for the other most important program? While Davidson is loaded this year, would most outside observers think the conference is dependent upon them? Possibly but, if not them, would it be Rhode Island? St. Louis?
I think there are five programs that are most important to the A10: VCU, UD, St. Louis, Rhody, and Richmond. Davidson and St.Bonaventure are also top tier but not as important as the other five. The limiting factors for Bona and Davidson are facilities/total fan support. Iíd put St. Joeís in the second tier historically but how much of that was a function of their long time coach? GMU, GW, Duquesne, and UMass are what they are. Fordham and LaSalle just need to leave...

The problem for the A10 the last few years is that the five top programs are not winning enough gamesóespecially out of conference. These programs should have the financial wherewithal to schedule winnable buy games and fan support to get invited to solid pre conference tournaments which would lift the overall conference standing. UD canít throw stones based on the past couple of years. Itís important to be consistent. Everyone but VCU has not been over the past 5-8 years.
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Saw today Chase has two brothers. One is a 6-9 HS freshman and one a 6-8 HS senior. Hope Chase loves his Flyer experience.
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Saw today Chase has two brothers. One is a 6-9 HS freshman and one a 6-8 HS senior. Hope Chase loves his Flyer experience.
Chase's youngest brother, Luke, is a beast... might be one of the best recruits in the 2023 class.

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What does it mean that we are #9? #9 outside of the top 25?

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What does it mean that we are #9? #9 outside of the top 25?
I believe it means we are ranked #9 in the country in their mid-major Top 25 poll.
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"X Factor
Trey Landers
As one of three seniors on the roster, Landers is probably the closest thing the Flyers have to a do-it-all wing. He’s a fantastic rebounder for his size at 6.7 rebounds per contest and offensive and defensive rebounding rates that were the best on the team. He’s a capable creator and can get to and convert in the paint (63.8% at the rim). He’ll also probably get the task of defending the opposing team’s best wing player on a lot of nights. Toppin dominates the highlights and headlines, and guys like Crutcher and Chatman will probably have the ball in their hands the most, but Landers fills in the gaps on the floor that will help the Flyers grind out wins."

Outstanding writing, the writer hit it right on point.

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As one of three seniors on the roster, .
Three seniors? Did I miss something? Landers, Mikesell and ______________?????
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You and me both, Clayton. I went so far as to check out the Flyers Menís BB website, and those are the only 2 scholly players in their final seasons of eligibility on the roster. Also, nothing against Trey because heís our version of Beast Mode, but to say heís our most versatile player totally ignores Mikesellís contributions. Last year, at various times, he guarded the 5, ran the point, drove the baseline, and covered the opponentís best outside shooter. Heís our Swiss Army Knife.
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You and me both, Clayton. I went so far as to check out the Flyers Menís BB website, and those are the only 2 scholly players in their final seasons of eligibility on the roster. Also, nothing against Trey because heís our version of Beast Mode, but to say heís our most versatile player totally ignores Mikesellís contributions. Last year, at various times, he guarded the 5, ran the point, drove the baseline, and covered the opponentís best outside shooter. Heís our Swiss Army Knife.
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I think Trey is our 9th maybe 10th guy at the end of the season. Projected starting 5, then Rodney, Matos, Johnson, then maybe Cohill. Trey rounds out the top 10. I'm expecting Trey to average 5 and 5.

I think Trey hit his ceiling pretty early (Soph) season and his utilization was high. We needed it to be, I appreciate his efforts but I think he's probably our 10th best basketball player at this point.
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I think Trey is our 9th maybe 10th guy at the end of the season. Projected starting 5, then Rodney, Matos, Johnson, then maybe Cohill. Trey rounds out the top 10. I'm expecting Trey to average 5 and 5.

I think Trey hit his ceiling pretty early (Soph) season and his utilization was high. We needed it to be, I appreciate his efforts but I think he's probably our 10th best basketball player at this point.
In terms of sheer skill, he probably is #10 at this point. But when you include attitude, determination, motor, and guts, there may be a number of games this season when Trey will be our Sixth Man. CAG knows how Trey has battled for him over these past 2 seasons, and if he puts forth that same effort as a Senior, then CAG will use him when and where he thinks Trey will give us an advantage.
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In terms of sheer skill, he probably is #10 at this point. But when you include attitude, determination, motor, and guts, there may be a number of games this season when Trey will be our Sixth Man. CAG knows how Trey has battled for him over these past 2 seasons, and if he puts forth that same effort as a Senior, then CAG will use him when and where he thinks Trey will give us an advantage.
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Effort, motor and unusual strength. Pretty good defense and rebounding too. He is this teams Kyle Davis.

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I think Trey's role will vary game to game. There were games last season where he just wasn't on and you could tell, but there weren't the options there are now. When Trey is on and able to drive effectively and play with high energy, then he's likely getting 20-25 minutes or more. If he's off, they have the options this year to make that a 10-15 minute kind of night for Trey.
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"Dayton traditionally schedules well in the non-conference slate, and this year isn’t any different."

Huh there are members on here that made me think we are one of the worst scheduling teams in the country...
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I noticed about half the NBA teams have visited Flyer practices so far. I donít ever remember that happening, but maybe itís common? Some have come more than once. Invites from CAG? Interest in Obi and others? It has to be exciting for the team and helps recruiting. My guess is we might see more of the same at games this season.
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UD picked to finish 3rd (Behind VCU and Davidson)

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Obi preseason 1st Team

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And to think I got red pipped last year for saying how good Jalen is. Iíve said stupid things on here but that sure wasnít it.

I believe with the team we have this year that this year Jalen will show himself to be the best PG we have had since Negele. He looks much stronger and with a reduction in minutes and the ability to play full intensity defensively, Iím expecting to see huge strides in the complete game from him this year.
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"Dayton traditionally schedules well in the non-conference slate, and this year isn’t any different."

Huh there are members on here that made me think we are one of the worst scheduling teams in the country...
That is obviously a very uniformed comment...since 2002, we are only averaging the 7th best ooc sos in the A10. What is so great about 7th place in the A10? We should be doing much better than that. It's ridiculous. We might not even be in the top 5 this year in A10 ooc sos. That is really unacceptable. But year after year goes by, and people don't ever complain...

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That is obviously a very uniformed comment...since 2002, we are only averaging the 7th best ooc sos in the A10. What is so great about 7th place in the A10? We should be doing much better than that. It's ridiculous. We might not even be in the top 5 this year in A10 ooc sos. That is really unacceptable. But year after year goes by, and people don't ever complain...
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That is obviously a very uniformed comment...since 2002, we are only averaging the 7th best ooc sos in the A10. What is so great about 7th place in the A10? We should be doing much better than that. It's ridiculous. We might not even be in the top 5 this year in A10 ooc sos. That is really unacceptable. But year after year goes by, and people don't ever complain...
OOC SOS
18-19 43
17-18 101
16-17 38
15-16 42
14-15 36
13-14 29
12-13 106
11-12 97

For Archie and Grant, the schedule was typically around 40. Grant's first year and Archie's first 2, the schedule was a little lighter, which is common during a coaching transition. If there are 7 A10 teams that have better OOC than us when we are in the top 40, then there is not much more we can do.

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UD is good about scheduling good teams from smaller conferences that while they don't stick out on your schedule, they don't hurt the RPI much either, or whatever SoS metric is used now. The go on to be towards the top of their respective leagues while still being in the category of a "buy" game for UD.
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Not sure of the severity... but my daughter said Jalen was in class today with a boot on .
Jablo with the update:

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Dayton point guard Jalen Crutcher said he twisted his ankle in practice Saturday. He's in a boot. He said it's not serious but isn't sure when he'll be back.

Also this on Jordy:

Dayton's Jordy Tshimanga has missed about three weeks with knee pain but said he'll be back shortly and hopes to play in the opener against Indiana State.
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Regarding Jalen, who cares about Saturday and the Cedarville game... Just rest up and be ready for Nov. 9

Also, with the Jordy news, I wouldn't be surprised if we see some early PT from the young big fella as he gets back in the swing of things... Let's just hope he will be ready to go (100%) by Maui.
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That is obviously a very uniformed comment...since 2002, we are only averaging the 7th best ooc sos in the A10. What is so great about 7th place in the A10? We should be doing much better than that. It's ridiculous. We might not even be in the top 5 this year in A10 ooc sos. That is really unacceptable. But year after year goes by, and people don't ever complain...
ďUniformedĒ?

Also, you had to go back to 2002 to make your point. You do realize that, in 2002:
-Oliver Purnell was still UD Menís BB HC;
-the Reds were still playing in Riverfront Stadium;
-Carson Palmer was still QB for USC; and
-neither the Red Sox nor the Cubs had won a World Series in over 80 years.

If you had stopped at 2009, your argument would have held more water. So, whatís the record over the past decade?
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Not sure of the severity... but my daughter said Jalen was in class today with a boot on .
As long as he wasnít trying to run pass routes on the turf at Welcome Stadium.
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How to build a winning college basketball program for the long-term? You bring in under the radar recruiting gems like Obi. You plant seeds for future players and the media. I love Matos comment ... having a NBA connection builds the UD brand. AG has brought a different benefit from previous UD coaches. You do small things to start the snowballing effect.

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Jalen was across the floor from my seat today at the VB match. My eyesight isn't great, but i didn't notice a boot.
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“Uniformed”?

Also, you had to go back to 2002 to make your point. You do realize that, in 2002:
-Oliver Purnell was still UD Men’s BB HC;
-the Reds were still playing in Riverfront Stadium;
-Carson Palmer was still QB for USC; and
-neither the Red Sox nor the Cubs had won a World Series in over 80 years.

If you had stopped at 2009, your argument would have held more water. So, what’s the record over the past decade?
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From 2009-2019 per Kenpom's ncsos, we are still in 7th place in the A10. We can and should do much better than that.

Kenpom's ncsos goes back to 2002, that is why I went back to 2002.
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OOC SOS
18-19 43
17-18 101
16-17 38
15-16 42
14-15 36
13-14 29
12-13 106
11-12 97

For Archie and Grant, the schedule was typically around 40. Grant's first year and Archie's first 2, the schedule was a little lighter, which is common during a coaching transition. If there are 7 A10 teams that have better OOC than us when we are in the top 40, then there is not much more we can do.

https://www.teamrankings.com/ncaa-ba...ate=2019-10-24
I will look up the rest, but Kenpom is in great disagreement with your numbers over the last 3 years.

UD Kenpom ncsos rank:

2018-2019...114
2017-2018...118
2016-2017...77
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Jalen was across the floor from my seat today at the VB match. My eyesight isn't great, but i didn't notice a boot.
If your eyesight isn't that great, have you considered that perhaps it wasn't Jalen?
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I will look up the rest, but Kenpom is in great disagreement with your numbers over the last 3 years.

UD Kenpom ncsos rank:

2018-2019...114
2017-2018...118
2016-2017...77

Forget kenpom. Here are the real NCSOS numbers as of Selection Sunday for the last 7 years.

2018-2019 - 98
http://www.udpride.com/images/rpi_20...ason_final.htm
2017-2018 - 2
http://www.udpride.com/images/rpi_20...ason_final.htm
2016-2017 - 73
http://www.udpride.com/images/rpi_20...ason_final.htm
2015-2016 - 10
http://www.udpride.com/images/rpi_20...ason_final.htm
2014-2015 - 71
http://www.udpride.com/images/rpi_20...ason_final.htm
2013-2014 - 103
http://www.udpride.com/images/rpi_20...ason_final.htm
2012-2013 - 146
http://www.udpride.com/images/rpi_20...ason_final.htm
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If your eyesight isn't that great, have you considered that perhaps it wasn't Jalen?
I was sitting next to LifelongFlyerFan, and I'm pretty sure it was Jalen standing next to Obi and Jordy. I didn't look at his feet since I was there to watch Volleyball and it was the little kids that wanted autographs.
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I was sitting next to LifelongFlyerFan, and I'm pretty sure it was Jalen standing next to Obi and Jordy. I didn't look at his feet since I was there to watch Volleyball and it was the little kids that wanted autographs.
Oh, I believe you both. I'm just having a little fun while sympathizing with fading eyesight simultaneously. And UDVB is looking good this year, with or without glasses.
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I was sitting next to LifelongFlyerFan, and I'm pretty sure it was Jalen standing next to Obi and Jordy. I didn't look at his feet since I was there to watch Volleyball and it was the little kids that wanted autographs.

If you were looking at the dudes in that atmosphere, there's something wrong with you.
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Massey Ratings predictions.

8-3 ooc...losses to Georgia, SMC, and Colorado

15-3 A10...losses at VCU, at SLU, and at URI

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Teamrankings.com projections.

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22-7...13-5 A10

Losses: at VCU, SMC, Colorado...the other 4 losses are not listed
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Those Massey predictions are based on last year's end-of-season ratings with no off-season adjustments.

Even the ones that attempt to account for roster and coaching changes can only do so much when their datasets are limited. In the case of Dayton, their models give virtually no credit for the additions of Chase Johnson, who at worst will be a regular rotation guy and showed enough to start the exhibition game, and Ibi Watson, who didn't start but looked like a starter in stats...because they contributed virtually nothing at their previous stops.

The people who create these models will tell you that their preseason modeling will always have some huge outliers because there are some changes that just can't be quantified.

Dayton looks like they will be one of the outliers this year in my humble opinion. It's hard to quantify these things, but there can't be many teams out there that will improve as much as Dayton relative to last year's performance.

I say this because I see the losses off of last year's team as the fourth, fifth, and eighth best players on the team, and replaceable with better parts, and the most important addition of all is depth. Yesterday (yes it was an exhibition game) ten players played between 16-21 minutes and nine scored 8 points or more. An eleventh player that looks to get real minutes was on the bench with a minor injury. The three best players on last year's team were a freshman, sophomore, and junior. They're back, and should be that much better.

The defense should be so much better than this year. If you're going to see 20-30 minutes on the court, you can give so much more effort than you can if you know for certain that you are going to play 35-40 and absolutely CANNOT get in foul trouble. Further, I trust the coaching staff to insist on defensive effort and yank those that aren't putting it out there.

If this team can avoid major injuries, they can improve so much more than anybody else on their schedule that I'm wildly confident going into this season. So if Massey is telling me 23-6 (plus the extra games in Maui plus the conference tournament) based on last year's ratings, I'm more than fine with that. In fact, I'm not worried about making the dance. I'm considering seeding already. As it should be.

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I noticed that our guys were fresh at the end of the game last night. Crutcher is not going to be doing an ironman triathlon this season, and really we should not be forced to do that to anyone. So, I expect us to have a full tank through most games this season and against the grind of the regular season. That is, barring significant injuries, illness or personnel issues.
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Good Archdeacon article about Ibi , his mother, why he initially chose MI, and why he chose Dayton.
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Why does the DDN say UD will likely sell out the opener? I thought the season is sold out.
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Why does the DDN say UD will likely sell out the opener? I thought the season is sold out.
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According to the DDN 11,792 season tickets have been sold. That is a ridiculous number. You can't get 400 level seats - they are sold out. UD holds 1100 tickets for students and more for visiting teams and for internal use. If you want season tickets now you would have to get club seats. Also, three of the four terrace suites are sold out, and UD is holding the tickets for the fourth. Every game should be a sellout or near sellout this season. Let's hope the team lives up to the hype! (They will.)
Those numbers imply that all games are sold out. What am I missing? The Club and Terrace seats?
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Season tickets are sold out; UD always keeps back several hundred for individual game sales
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UD just updated the roster, adding a third walk-on to the team.
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Two of the walk-ons are redshirt players. Does anyone know exactly what this means? How and why a walk-on is declared a redshirt?
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I would guess to preserve their future eligibility in case they turn out to be better than the average walk-on.
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UD just updated the roster, adding a third walk-on to the team.
https://www.daytondailynews.com/spor...SRmAOr0LLlDrI/

Two of the walk-ons are redshirt players. Does anyone know exactly what this means? How and why a walk-on is declared a redshirt?
From an NCAA eligibility standpoint, all players (whether walk-on or scholarship) are granted five years to play four. Declaring a walk-on a redshirt has no downside for the player or the universityóif a walk-on redshirts and then graduates in 4 years he can stay for a fifth year (obviously at his expense), or grad transfer to another school with one year of eligibility remaining.
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Two of the walk-ons are redshirt players. Does anyone know exactly what this means? How and why a walk-on is declared a redshirt?

Could it also mean that they while they can practice, they will not play in any games, and they will not travel with the team?
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