2016-17 Preseason Hype

[Flyer 79]

Worth noting, St. Mary's at 14, Rhode Island at 18.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[UDBrian]

Originally Posted by Radar Careful now...Vitale's a genius!

vitale is a diiaaappppeeerrrr daannndddyyy, he is a P T P er, he is a hall of famer, he is hard to watch unless he loves your team

[jack72]

Originally Posted by Runnin' Rebel http://www.cbssports.com/college-bas...ball-rankings/ Flyers at #29

Maryland #42
Notre Dame #52

[shapanud]

5th in "others receiving votes", so 30th overall, in USA Coaches (or more accurately, the College Sports Information Directors) Preseason Poll...

http://sportspolls.usatoday.com/ncaa...s-poll/2016/1/

[Dillomernda]

Originally Posted by shapanud 5th in "others receiving votes", so 30th overall, in USA Coaches (or more accurately, the College Sports Information Directors) Preseason Poll... http://sportspolls.usatoday.com/ncaa...s-poll/2016/1/

Two observations. St. Mary's is most likely coming here ranked! How on Earth do these people decide that UCLA should be ranked when they had a losing record? Is there a secret that I'm not filled in on? From what I gather, UCLA is not the UCLA of old.

[Radar]

4 simple letters: U.C.L.A.

Same as ND in football every pre-season.

[bcross]

UCLA returns almost everyone and adds 3 Top-25 recruits. They should be a Top-25 team.

[m21eagle45]

Originally Posted by bcross UCLA returns almost everyone and adds 3 Top-25 recruits. They should be a Top-25 team.

SHHH...Don't let facts get in the way of a good story!

[Flyer Al]

Jon Rothstein has a new post about his 20 under the radar breakout players for 2016. I went into the article curious, but not expecting, to see if any Flyers were listed. Near the bottom of the list he had Sam Miller. Sam would definitely qualify as a national under the radar player but I am not sure many UD fans are that high on him to become a breakout player. This is not intended to be a jab at Sam and I will happily be wrong but my perception, and that of others from this board, is that he has room to grow.

http://www.todaysu.com/rothstein-fil...tball-2016-17/

[BRob2Perryman3]

He's got an attitude problem to work on before he can improve as a player

[jack72]

Although I like Crosby a bunch, I would go with Miller as the most talented guy from the Frosh class. If Pollard struggles, he will get a chance to shine.

[shapanud]

27th in AP Preseason Poll:
http://collegebasketball.ap.org/poll/2017/1

other teams on UD's schedule:
St. Mary's: 17th
URI: 23rd
UCLA (maybe): 16th
Vanderbilt: 1 vote

Assuming St. Marys wins their first two games against Nevada and Prairie View, they will certainly be ranked when they come to UD Arena. This will be the first non-conference ranked opponent at UD since Alabama (16th) in December of 2011. Before that, the last ranked non-conference opponent was Pitt in Dec. 2007.

	Rhode Island RHODE ISLAND The University of Rhode Island was chartered as the state's agricultural school in 1888. The school became the Rhode Island College of Agriculture and Mechanic Arts in 1892. Located in southern Rhode Island, URI is a quintessential New England campus - rural in feeling yet close to the city of Providence, the state's capital. Linked to the city, the beaches, and nearly every corner of the state by both rail and public transit, the campus is easily accessible from Boston and New York URI currently offers 100 majors in seven degree-granting colleges. There are more than 12,000 students on the Kingston campus, about 3,000 in Providence, and a complement of about 700 faculty. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the Rams.

[ud2]

If UD starts out 3-0, then they will be ranked. If they start out 2-0, the next poll will not come out until after the SMC game.

Friday Nov 11 Austin Peay

Tuesday Nov 15 at Alabama

Saturday Nov 19 SMC

[CE80]

Originally Posted by ud2 If UD starts out 3-0, then they will be ranked. If they start out 2-0, the next poll will not come out until after the SMC game. Friday Nov 11 Austin Peay Tuesday Nov 15 at Alabama Saturday Nov 19 SMC

If they start out at 3-0, there is a pretty good chance they will start out 2-0.

[hawkoooo]

I am very surprised we are not ranked in both major preseason polls. It is actually quite shocking. The worst part is that UD/SMC will not be a ranked match up as it should be.

[224]

Originally Posted by hawkoooo I am very surprised we are not ranked in both major preseason polls. It is actually quite shocking. The worst part is that UD/SMC will not be a ranked match up as it should be.

Polls are released each Monday. Two more chances for that to change.

[ruechalgrin]

Dayton #22 in ESPN Power Rankings.

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-bas...power-rankings

St. Mary's #19 and UCLA #24 (Flyers need to beat Nebraska which we cannot overlook).

[lhsgolf19]

Originally Posted by ruechalgrin Dayton #22 in ESPN Power Rankings. http://www.espn.com/mens-college-bas...power-rankings St. Mary's #19 and UCLA #24 (Flyers need to beat Nebraska which we cannot overlook).

I don't think there is anyway we overlook Nebraska (Archie won't allow it) BUT they will be very below average this year... We should Destroy them though lol

[Lifelong Flyer Fan]

Best Traveling Fans
http://www.ncaa.com/video/basketball...ton-notre-dame

[Medford]

good pub, and I'm sure Archie will use it as best he can as a recruiting tool, but there are many things wrong with that list.

A), no OSU football or UK basketball. Sure both fan bases are obnoxious as all get out (and I consider myself an OSU football fan) but there is no question they turn out in serious numbers across the country.

b) UD "despite being a mid major" Just stop it w/ that nonsense NCAA.

Otherwise, I'd pump the hell out of that every time a recruit comes to town.

[Gazoo]

Originally Posted by Medford good pub, and I'm sure Archie will use it as best he can as a recruiting tool, but there are many things wrong with that list. A), no OSU football or UK basketball. Sure both fan bases are obnoxious as all get out (and I consider myself an OSU football fan) but there is no question they turn out in serious numbers across the country. b) UD "despite being a mid major" Just stop it w/ that nonsense NCAA. Otherwise, I'd pump the hell out of that every time a recruit comes to town.

I think tOSU only shows up for the big games

[momszer]

Gazoo,

I've attended several Buckeye vs. Northwestern games in Evanston and the Buckeye fans greatly outnumber the Wildkitties. I wouldn't call that a big game. Prior to Big10 Expansion.

[Gazoo]

Originally Posted by momszer Gazoo, I've attended several Buckeye vs. Northwestern games in Evanston and the Buckeye fans greatly outnumber the Wildkitties. I wouldn't call that a big game. Prior to Big10 Expansion.

If 100 Buckeye fans show up and 20 NW fans show up, that's outnumbering them 5:1 but not a great showing overall.

I should have noted that the "prevailing wisdom" is that tOSU only shows up to big games. I don't show up to any so I wouldn't know.

[shapanud]

Lunardi's preseason bracketology:

http://www.espn.com/mens-college-bas...l/bracketology

#7 seed in Buffalo

Obviously projecting teams at specific locations is a complete guess, but our last trip to Buffalo for the tournament seemed to work out OK.

[ud2]

Originally Posted by Lifelong Flyer Fan Best Traveling Fans http://www.ncaa.com/video/basketball...ton-notre-dame

Saw some friends in that video.

[CE80]

Originally Posted by shapanud Lunardi's preseason bracketology: http://www.espn.com/mens-college-bas...l/bracketology #7 seed in Buffalo Obviously projecting teams at specific locations is a complete guess, but our last trip to Buffalo for the tournament seemed to work out OK.

Best couple of days in my live sports watching life (I am 57).

[SHQCKEY]

Originally Posted by momszer Gazoo, I've attended several Buckeye vs. Northwestern games in Evanston and the Buckeye fans greatly outnumber the Wildkitties. I wouldn't call that a big game. Prior to Big10 Expansion.

Those almost certainly are not fans that traveled, though. I think it's more a function of the game being held in a large metropolitan area with a decent amount of OSU grads.

[Swampy Meadows]

Originally Posted by shapanud Lunardi's preseason bracketology: http://www.espn.com/mens-college-bas...l/bracketology #7 seed in Buffalo Obviously projecting teams at specific locations is a complete guess, but our last trip to Buffalo for the tournament seemed to work out OK.

Marty the bus driver is tanned and rested!

[NCkevi]

5 early season upsets to keep an eye on
#4 UD overr UCLA

http://cbsprt.co/2ewtBQ3

[Buckleyma]

Folks, have you noticed that Davidson is playing a very difficult non-conferece schedule? IMHO, based upon this schedule, Davidson's record during this very difficult schedule will not be indicative of how good they will be. They are playing Clemson, Xavier / Missouri, TBD in Orlando, Charlotte, College of Charleston, North Carolina and Kansas. Wow! If Dayton had a schedule like this, we would all be buzzing with excitement.
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	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	Charlotte CHARLOTTE UNC Charlotte is one of a generation of universities founded in metropolitan areas of the United States immediately after World War II in response to rising education demands generated by the war and its technology. Now a research intensive university, UNC Charlotte is the fourth largest of the 16 institutions within the University of North Carolina system and the largest institution in the Charlotte region. The university comprises seven professional colleges and currently offers 18 doctoral programs, 62 master’s degree programs and 90 bachelor’s degrees. More than 900 full-time faculty comprise the university’s academic departments and the 2007 fall enrollment exceeded 22,300 students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the 49ers.

[m21eagle45]

Originally Posted by Buckleyma Folks, have you noticed that Davidson is playing a very difficult non-conferece schedule? IMHO, based upon this schedule, Davidson's record during this very difficult schedule will not be indicative of how good they will be. They are playing Clemson, Xavier / Missouri, TBD in Orlando, Charlotte, College of Charleston, North Carolina and Kansas. Wow! If Dayton had a schedule like this, we would all be buzzing with excitement. Posted via Mobile Device

I wouldn't want to play that schedule unless most of those are at home or neutral. It doesn't help to go on the road and get beat.

	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	Charlotte CHARLOTTE UNC Charlotte is one of a generation of universities founded in metropolitan areas of the United States immediately after World War II in response to rising education demands generated by the war and its technology. Now a research intensive university, UNC Charlotte is the fourth largest of the 16 institutions within the University of North Carolina system and the largest institution in the Charlotte region. The university comprises seven professional colleges and currently offers 18 doctoral programs, 62 master’s degree programs and 90 bachelor’s degrees. More than 900 full-time faculty comprise the university’s academic departments and the 2007 fall enrollment exceeded 22,300 students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the 49ers.

[Medford]

Originally Posted by Buckleyma Folks, have you noticed that Davidson is playing a very difficult non-conferece schedule? IMHO, based upon this schedule, Davidson's record during this very difficult schedule will not be indicative of how good they will be. They are playing Clemson, Xavier / Missouri, TBD in Orlando, Charlotte, College of Charleston, North Carolina and Kansas. Wow! If Dayton had a schedule like this, we would all be buzzing with excitement. Posted via Mobile Device

I'll give you the UNC & Kansas games, though I assume both are on the road. Clemson is kind of meh, a shade above UD's opening matchup in their tournament, Nebraska, but certainly no better than Vandy. UCLA as a potential 2nd round matchup has more national name appeal than Xavier, though Xavier is currently the better team and would mean more to UD than UCLA does, missouri has been dreadful the last 2 seasons. Don't know what lies on the other side of whatever exempt even they are playing in. Charlotte has pretty much sucked since leaving the A10, hell they sucked prior to leaving the A10. College of Charleston is another meh program.

Again, I'll give you Kansas (in KC) & @ UNC, but combine that with one less OOC game (so you can throw UD's DII game out the window in essence if you are comparing schedules) @ Mercer, @ Charelston, Charlotte, App State and Jacksonville at home and I'll take UD's overall schedule over Davidson. They've given themselves a shot to land some haymakers if Jack Gibbs gets hot on the road somewhere, but there is little else left to build a resume off of.

	Xavier XAVIER MUSKETEERS Dayton's biggest rival dating back to the early 1900s. Founded in 1831, Xavier University is a Jesuit, Catholic university in Cincinnati, Ohio. Its three colleges offer 78 undergraduate majors, 43 minors and 11 graduate programs to 6,646 total students, including 3,961 undergraduates. The University is the sixth-oldest Catholic university in the nation and one of 28 Jesuit colleges and universities nationwide. Xavier's nickname is the Musketeers and are fellow A10 Conference members.

	Charlotte CHARLOTTE UNC Charlotte is one of a generation of universities founded in metropolitan areas of the United States immediately after World War II in response to rising education demands generated by the war and its technology. Now a research intensive university, UNC Charlotte is the fourth largest of the 16 institutions within the University of North Carolina system and the largest institution in the Charlotte region. The university comprises seven professional colleges and currently offers 18 doctoral programs, 62 master’s degree programs and 90 bachelor’s degrees. More than 900 full-time faculty comprise the university’s academic departments and the 2007 fall enrollment exceeded 22,300 students. Fellow members of the A10 Conference. Nickname is the 49ers.

[hawkoooo]

Dayton over UCLA on a neutral court is far from an upset. That word has lost all meaning. Also putting a theoretical game on that list is silly to begin with.

[Medford]

http://www.cbssports.com/writers/matt-norlander/

Charles Cooke among the best non P5 players (I guess it excludes the Big East as well)

Dayton as a team also falls into that catagory, not that either really come as a surprise, lets see if they can live up to the billing.

[ud2]

Originally Posted by shapanud Lunardi's preseason bracketology: http://www.espn.com/mens-college-bas...l/bracketology #7 seed in Buffalo Obviously projecting teams at specific locations is a complete guess, but our last trip to Buffalo for the tournament seemed to work out OK.

I think we get better than a 7 seed.

[ud2]

http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-.../story/1813580:

Top 40 rankings.


31-DAYTON...Archie Miller continues to resist overtures from elsewhere and remains at Dayton, one of the truly good mid-major jobs in the country. The Flyers should get back to the Dance once more with an experienced core of seniors Gs Kyle Davis and Scoochie Smith, wing Charles Cooke, and frontline warrior Kendall Pollard. The Flyers resemble the handful of senior-laden teams that made an impact into the Dance a year ago.

[San Diego Flyer]

I'm not sure any of these services get it. We are down 2 starters indefinitely.
Our path right now is frought with landmines.