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57 days. $2.9M budget left. Russian progress report stalled in Mueller's posse meetings.
What happens if it hits zero days?
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Mueller has evidence that Cohen was in Prague in 2016 confirming yet another part of the Steele Dossier:

https://www.msnbc.com/hardball/watch...-1210633795672

And here is a video of President-elect Trump and Sean Hannity flat out lying about Cohen’s trip to Prague:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jnKYzo...ature=youtu.be

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Fusion GPS dossier reported Michael Cohen was in Prague in Aug 2016. CNN later reported a different Michael Cohen with the same birthday was actually in Prague, based on government sources

How exactly did Fusion GPS get information on a different Michael Cohen?

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Michael Cohen skips court to smoke cigars, judge fumes:

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The mind-blowing paradox (for me) is how such a character-devoid sleaze can be accomplishing so much relative to predecessors, e.g., re North Korea/China; Russia; trade/China; NATO; defense spending, tax reform. Iran, Syria not so much, yet....entitlement reform, not a hint.
Trump is very willing to brawl with the Democrats/his own party/foreign adversaries. I do not think there was any other GOP candidate that was willing to be such a brawler.

Christie is the only one that maybe comes to mind.

How much of Trump's progress is attributable to his aggressiveness?
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I think you're in the wrong thread. You're quoting a post from UACFlyer that isn't in this thread.

This one is about Trump's "character-devoid sleaze" attorney.
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57 days. $2.9M budget left. Russian progress report stalled in Mueller's posse meetings.
56 days left. Mueller burn rate reaches $100k/day with not even a hint of anything new on the Ruskies. Now trying to keep the morale up with his 17 lawyers ( are there still 17? )
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I think you're in the wrong thread. You're quoting a post from UACFlyer that isn't in this thread.

This one is about Trump's "character-devoid sleaze" attorney.
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Attorney Client privilege is now a thing of the past. I have many (too many!) lawyers and they are probably wondering when their offices, and even homes, are going to be raided with everything, including their phones and computers, taken. All lawyers are deflated and concerned!

Attorney client privilege is alive and well as long as your attorney is not engaged in criminal activity and the subject of a legally issued search warrant which produces tapes of his conversations.
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Michael Cohen and the End Stage of the Trump Presidency:

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Michael Avenatti: “I strongly believe that within the next 90 days we're going to see an unsealing of an indictment against Mr. Cohen for a host of very serious offenses.”

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Originally Posted by San Diego Flyer View Post
56 days left. Mueller burn rate reaches $100k/day with not even a hint of anything new on the Ruskies. Now trying to keep the morale up with his 17 lawyers ( are there still 17? )
55 days left. Sunday is seeing the same progress on the Russian front as the last week.

Nothing. Rod is even getting impatient.
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There is no evidence that Michael Cohen has been denied due process or suffered any loss of civil liberties. A judicial search warrant was executed and he will have the right to challenge that search warrant in court, if there is any valid basis to do so.
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The Wall Street Journal reports that Cohen killed an Us Weekly story being prepared in 2013 on Donald Trump Jr.’s alleged affair with pop singer Aubrey O’Day:

https://www.wsj.com/articles/trump-l...6?redirect=amp

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56 days left. Mueller burn rate reaches $100k/day with not even a hint of anything new on the Ruskies. Now trying to keep the morale up with his 17 lawyers ( are there still 17? )
55 days left. Will he last that long?

God bless Nancy Pelosi. She tried to send a subliminal message about firing Mueller, but like everything else she addresses, it failed.
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Cohen Isn't the Biggest Catch from Trump World:

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/artic...om-trump-world

There was a lawyer at the Trump Organization who did have to sign off on almost every significant deal -- and that guy wasn't Cohen. His name was Jason Greenblatt.
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So Michael Cohen was smoking cigars with his boys the other day when he was supposed to be in court:

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The guy circled in red?

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Michael Cohen made a feeble attempt to defy a court order, refusing to release the names of his clients.

Two of his clients are Donald Trump and Elliott Broidy. Cohen refused to reveal the identity of the third legal client because the client “directed Cohen not to reveal the identity publicly.” Cohen’s lawyer, Stephen Ryan, writes that this client’s matters “are responsive” to the search warrant, but it appears to be a typo. Ryan seems to have forgot to include the word “not.”

UPDATE (2:45 p.m.): Judge Woods rules that Cohen must disclose the name of his third client publicly now, arguing Cohen “has not met the standard for an exception to the notion that client identity…must be revealed.”

UPDATE (2:53 p.m.): Cohen’s previously unnamed third client is...wait for it....wait for it:

Right-wing radio host Sean Hannity

https://thinkprogress.org/cohen-defi...&ICID=ref_fark

Let's think about this for a sec. Cohen's clients are

--Trump, who paid hush money to Stormy Daniels and Playmate Karen McDougal

-- Elliott Broidy who had Cohen pay $1.5 mil to a Playboy Playmate for her silence when she got pregnant and to assure that she had an abortion

-- Sean "Lumpy" Hannity, who works for Faux News, network which has had multiple sexual harassment suits and firings for same.

Why would Sean need Cohen???

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Stormy does the strip tease and then shows up in court. The MSM is all agog.

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Since we know - and the MSM agrees - that deleting/destroying/bleaching emails, recordings and other 'personal' records is not illegal, immoral or fattening, why didn't Cohen pull a Hillary? Seriously.
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54 days left. Will he last that long?

God bless Nancy Pelosi. She tried to send a subliminal message about firing Mueller, but like everything else she addresses, it failed.
53 days and Mueller has not yet found Russia on the map. His staff of 17 lawyers are boning up on their Oral Exams. Something apparently they feel Stormy Daniels can help with.
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What happens if it hits zero days?
When it hits '0' swampy will claim victory and scream for impeachment to begin since everyone knows that finding no proof IS proof just as colder temperatures are proof of global warming.

Unless Rachel Maddow says something different in which case the staff writer reserves the right to repeat and believe anything she says...ad nauseum, ad infinitum.
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My sources tell me it won't go that far. But if it does your head will explode.
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53 days and Mueller has not yet found Russia on the map. His staff of 17 lawyers are boning up on their Oral Exams. Something apparently they feel Stormy Daniels can help with.

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Who is judge Kimba Wood?? Appointed by Reagan (+++), Interviewed by Slick Willie to be his AG (- - - ).

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Sean Hannity’s Ties to Two More Trump-Connected Lawyers:

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...m_source=atltw

On May 25, 2017, KFAQ, a radio station based in Tulsa, Oklahoma, received a cease-and-desist letter signed by two lawyers for Hannity: Victoria Toensing and Jay Alan Sekulow. Toensing’s signature sits above her name and that of her husband Joseph E. diGenova, the members of diGenova and Toensing LLP, who are identified as “Counsel for Sean Hannity.”
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Comey, Cohen, commies, collusion...it is all starting to run together.
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Sean Hannity’s Ties to Two More Trump-Connected Lawyers:

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...m_source=atltw

On May 25, 2017, KFAQ, a radio station based in Tulsa, Oklahoma, received a cease-and-desist letter signed by two lawyers for Hannity: Victoria Toensing and Jay Alan Sekulow. Toensing’s signature sits above her name and that of her husband Joseph E. diGenova, the members of diGenova and Toensing LLP, who are identified as “Counsel for Sean Hannity.”
He has those guys on his show all the time. What is the scandal here? Hannity has lawyers? He is in NYC. Trump has his business based in NYC. They both have needs for top level conservative lawyers.
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C'mon Fudd...

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He has those guys on his show all the time. What is the scandal here? Hannity has lawyers? He is in NYC. Trump has his business based in NYC. They both have needs for top level conservative lawyers.
You're cutting Hannity way too much slack. Here is a guy who's been going on nightly TV tirades about the horrendous injustice of an execution of a search warrant for the home/office of Cohen...without an "Oh by the way, Cohen is a close personal associate of mine".

As for Hannity "having lawyers"...he has unequivocally stated that Cohen is not his lawyer..never did legal work for him. If Cohen had hundreds of clients that would be a bit different. But when he tells the Court he has only three clients and one if them is Hannity the picture becomes quite different.

Further, while Cohen is a lawyer by training, there is evidence that he hasn't been doing legal work for the three persons he named. Those guys have other lawyers doing their legal work. Cohen is a "fixer", not a lawyer.

This is not business as usual Fudd.
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You're cutting Hannity way too much slack. Here is a guy who's been going on nightly TV tirades about the horrendous injustice of an execution of a search warrant for the home/office of Cohen...without an "Oh by the way, Cohen is a close personal associate of mine".

As for Hannity "having lawyers"...he has unequivocally stated that Cohen is not his lawyer..never did legal work for him. If Cohen had hundreds of clients that would be a bit different. But when he tells the Court he has only three clients and one if them is Hannity the picture becomes quite different.

Further, while Cohen is a lawyer by training, there is evidence that he hasn't been doing legal work for the three persons he named. Those guys have other lawyers doing their legal work. Cohen is a "fixer", not a lawyer.

This is not business as usual Fudd.
Take this post with a grain of salt folks, UAC is a known Hannity hater. Lol.
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You're cutting Hannity way too much slack. Here is a guy who's been going on nightly TV tirades about the horrendous injustice of an execution of a search warrant for the home/office of Cohen...without an "Oh by the way, Cohen is a close personal associate of mine".

As for Hannity "having lawyers"...he has unequivocally stated that Cohen is not his lawyer..never did legal work for him. If Cohen had hundreds of clients that would be a bit different. But when he tells the Court he has only three clients and one if them is Hannity the picture becomes quite different.

Further, while Cohen is a lawyer by training, there is evidence that he hasn't been doing legal work for the three persons he named. Those guys have other lawyers doing their legal work. Cohen is a "fixer", not a lawyer.

This is not business as usual Fudd.
If you listen to his radio show and watch his television program, you would know that Cohen and Seculow are both close personal associates of Hannity. He has never covered up a personal relationship with those guys. In fact, over and over again,he has stated that he has known those guys personally for a long time, actually predating the Trump run for Presidency. So, there has been disclosure of his relationship with those guys.

So his coverage of the raid on Cohen's office and home is fair game for his coverage. In fact, he must cover it, or we would be relying on CNN fake news to distort the entire thing.

What part of Hannity's statement do you have reason to doubt?

“I never retained his services, I never received an invoice, I never paid Michael Cohen for legal fees,” Hannity recited on his program. “I did have occasional brief conversations with Michael Cohen — he’s a great attorney — about legal questions I had, or I was looking for input and perspective.”

Hannity added that his discussion with Cohen “never rose to any level that I needed to tell anyone,” and that none of his interactions with Cohen involved a third party.

“My questions exclusively almost focused on real estate,” Hannity concluded. “I said many times on my radio show, ‘I hate the stock market, I prefer real estate.’ Michael knows real estate.”
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That. snot what he's being slammed for.

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If you listen to his radio show and watch his television program, you would know that Cohen and Seculow are both close personal associates of Hannity. He has never covered up a personal relationship with those guys. In fact, over and over again,he has stated that he has known those guys personally for a long time, actually predating the Trump run for Presidency. So, there has been disclosure of his relationship with those guys.

So his coverage of the raid on Cohen's office and home is fair game for his coverage. In fact, he must cover it, or we would be relying on CNN fake news to distort the entire thing.

What part of Hannity's statement do you have reason to doubt?



https://www.vox.com/policy-and-polit...vice-privilege
The issue is failure to disclose. Every one of Hannity's Fox colleagues and people often on his show, e.g., Alan Dershowitz, have criticized him for not mentioning that he had a relationship with the guy he was reporting on. This is Journalism 101. It's not the end of the world; but Hannity clearly preferred that his relationship with Cohen not be known. That's pretty obvious, Fudd.

Beyond that, it's odd. Cohen may be educated as a lawyer...but he does not practice law....he's a fixer who now is in very serious legal jeopardy and on the verge of indictment. With all the "lawyers" in NYC that Hannity could obtain counsel from...surely you have to agree that he winds up with Hannity is strange. Are you saying you don't see that?

And you said he never covered up any relationships? By not mentioning that he was close to Cohen while reporting on him, that's precisely what he did...until it was revealed by circumstances.

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Do I Have to Say Who My Lawyer Is?

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If you listen to his radio show and watch his television program, you would know that Cohen and Seculow are both close personal associates of Hannity. He has never covered up a personal relationship with those guys.
What? Do you now have to go around and say publically who your lawyers are?

I think ud2 is correct here. UAC does not care for Trump. Hannity likes Trump. So UAC does not like Hannity.
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For years Hannity b*tched and moaned about the democrats being hypocritical about their pledges to be transparent and honest with the American citizens. Of course, now that he's in the spotlight, it no longer applies.

There's obviously more to this story.

And of course, nobody has to disclose who they use as a lawyer, accountant, Priest or chef, but if that person's name and reputation are being attacked and you choose to defend them, professional ethics demands that your relationship be exposed so your defense can be properly understood.
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What? Do you now have to go around and say publically who your lawyers are?

I think ud2 is correct here. UAC does not care for Trump. Hannity likes Trump. So UAC does not like Hannity.
Everyone is blasting Hannity for failure to disclose. Fox colleages like Howard Kurtz, Judge Napolitano, Allen Dershewitz and others have publically stated on Fox that Hannity made a mistake. And for sure Fox is downplaying the matter. It's a slam dunk.

Other truths: UAC does not like Hannity...at all. Trump is a crude, immoral man that is an embarrassment to the U.S. No Prider can condone his behavior. Also true is the fact that I strongly support what Trump is doing re NK, trade, taxes, China, even Russia, etc.

Therein lies the dilemma . Bad man......solid policies. Is that so hard to understand?
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Rollo. Cohen was more like an adviser to Hannity. I don't see him as Hannity's lawyer. Like Fudd said, Hannity has made it well known they are friends. I see no big deal here. Make it one if you want to. Nobody has a right to who my lawyer is - if I had one, ha, ha.
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Everyone is blasting Hannity for failure to disclose. Fox colleages like Howard Kurtz, Judge Napolitano, Allen Dershewitz and others have publically stated on Fox that Hannity made a mistake. And for sure Fox is downplaying the matter. It's a slam dunk.
It's not a slam dunk. Not everyone is blasting Hannity. And I do not follow lock step with Napolitano. Like ud2 said, you do not like Trump. Hannity likes Trump. You do not like Hannity.
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Rollo. Cohen was more like an adviser to Hannity. I don't see him as Hannity's lawyer. Like Fudd said, Hannity has made it well known they are friends. I see no big deal here. Make it one if you want to. Nobody has a right to who my lawyer is - if I had one, ha, ha.
That's what Hannity is saying. Which, if factual, makes it an even stranger story because he could have admitted he used Cohen for some political stories (and real estate...HA!) and moved on. Instead he kept hush-hush until exposed.

The original story said Cohen had 3 Clients, one unnamed. 'Clients' and 'Advisors' are not the same thing...so either the original story is fake news, or Hannity's version is fake news.

The royal smell test says Hannity's version stinks because FOX has dozens of insiders and lawyers walking around their offices 24/7/365 that he could have used for legal updates and advice. But I'm open minded enough to not pass judgment immediately.
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That's what Hannity is saying. Which, if factual, makes it an even stranger story because he could have admitted he used Cohen for some political stories (and real estate...HA!) and moved on. Instead he kept hush-hush until exposed.

The original story said Cohen had 3 Clients, one unnamed. 'Clients' and 'Advisors' are not the same thing...so either the original story is fake news, or Hannity's version is fake news.

The royal smell test says Hannity's version stinks. But I'm open minded enough to not pass judgment immediately.
Well then, I will also wait to see also if Cohen is actually Hannity's lawyer and not just an advisor.
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What? Do you now have to go around and say publically who your lawyers are?
When you are defending Michael Cohen non-stop on the air like this:

https://www.politico.com/video/2018/...ox-news-065803

Then yes, absolutely you must disclose that Cohen is your attorney.

At any other news organization, print or electronic, Hannity would be on the streets right now. But Faux News is not a news organization.

It's like when CBS Morning News interviews an author of a book published by Simon & Schuster. They always go out of their way to mention that S&S is owned by CBS...always.

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Fox News Supports Hannity

Michael Cohen never represented me in any legal matter," Hannity said at the end of his program. "I never retained his services, I never received an invoice, I never paid Michael Cohen for legal fees. I did have occasional brief conversations with Michael Cohen — he's a great attorney — about legal questions I had where I was looking for input and perspective. My discussions with Michael Cohen never rose to any level that I needed to tell anyone that I was asking him questions, and, to be absolutely clear, they never involved any matter, any... to disappoint so many – matter between me, a third party, a third group — at all. My questions exclusively almost focused on real estate."

"I really think you should have disclosed your relationship with Cohen when you talked about him on this show," Dershowitz said. "You could have said just you asked him for advice or whatever — but I think it would have been much, much better had you disclosed that relationship."

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So Cohen's attorney Stephen Ryan told Judge Kimba Woods that he called "Client #3" over the weekend and "Client #3" absolutely did not want to be identified. Before the name was revealed, Mr. Ryan argued that the mystery client was a “prominent person” who wanted to keep his identity a secret because he would be “embarrassed” to be identified as having sought Mr. Cohen’s counsel.

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Well then, I will also wait to see also if Cohen is actually Hannity's lawyer and not just an advisor.
I agree, let's wait and see what the nature of Hannity's relationship with Cohen was.

Everybody has their torches and pitchforks out calling for Hannity's head...Hannity a popular, very vocal critic of the Democrats.

I bet this amounts to very little/nothing.
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I agree that nothing will come of this, but just imagine how Sean Hannity would respond if it were true that Obama’s personal lawyer, the target of a criminal investigation, was also secretly the lawyer for Rachel Maddow—and she had been using her show to defend the lawyer without disclosing that relationship. Just imagine
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The judge in the Cohen case officiated at George Soros' wedding...hmmm, how about she recuse herself?



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I agree that nothing will come of this, but just imagine how Sean Hannity would respond if it were true that Obama’s personal lawyer, the target of a criminal investigation, was also secretly the lawyer for Rachel Maddow—and she had been using her show to defend the lawyer without disclosing that relationship. Just imagine
Who cares who Rachel Maddow's lawyer is. We know why she defends people on her program. It's ideology and political affiliation. The White House during Obama's administration would invite friendly network reporters to wine and dine them as they laid out how they wanted their initiatives to be presented to the public. Did all of those journalists have an obligation to disclose their chummy relationship with the Obama administration before any coverage of the administration? A very large number of MSM journalists are Democratic doners. Do you know who they are? In comparison, do we need Hannity to disclose that he asked for real estate advice from his lawyer buddy before he raises concerns about the search and seizure? This is a nothing on parade by a very corrupt media.

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Per the previous link...that judge was also under consideration to be AG under Bill Clinton.

Hmmm, imagine if Trump was a Dem and the judge a Republican.


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Judge Wood was also then-President Bill Clinton’s second, but failed nominee for U.S. Attorney General in 1993. Mr. Clinton had nominated Zoe Baird, but she was withdrawn after it was revealed she had hired an illegal immigrant as a nanny and did not pay taxes on the employee. Judge Wood was then selected, but she had also employed an illegal immigrant, but did pay taxes on the employee. Fearing a repeat of the same disastrous nomination of Ms. Baird, Mr. Clinton quickly removed Judge Wood from consideration.

Media reports at the time said Judge Wood had not told the White House about the nanny even when she had been asked directly. Judge Wood said in a statement that she had not misled the White House.
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The judge is also a former Playboy Bunny, that is interesting.

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You just don't get it.

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Who cares who Rachel Maddow's lawyer is. We know why she defends people on her program. It's ideology and political affiliation. The White House during Obama's administration would invite friendly network reporters to wine and dine them as they laid out how they wanted their initiatives to be presented to the public. Did all of those journalists have an obligation to disclose their chummy relationship with the Obama administration before any coverage of the administration? A very large number of MSM journalists are Democratic doners. Do you know who they are? In comparison, do we need Hannity to disclose that he asked for real estate advice from his lawyer buddy before he raises concerns about the search and seizure? This is a nothing on parade by a very corrupt media.
There is nothing wrong with Hannity's affiliation with Cohen. But he was obliged to mention it. All his colleagues on Fox say that....but you don't think so.

If a guy that is an investment analyst writes about a stock he covers he always mentions that he owns the stock or not. Full disclosure requires that if you expect to have any credibility whatsoever. Owning the stock you're writing about is fine. Failing to disclose that fact is a major error. Hannity is taking the major hit he deserves because of his lack of full disclosure. All his colleagues are saying that....and you keep saying it's OK. Good grief!
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No Attorney Client Privilege

So, if Cohen wasn't really Hannity's attorney, then there is no attorney/client privilege with regard to his relationship/discussions with Hannity.

I, too, think there is nothing under this rock, though.
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What about Russia? Right now Mueller is so relieved to have Daniels and Cohen in the news.

52 days.
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Cohen's lawyer Stephen Ryan:

"There are five paragraphs in that attachment A that deal directly with seeking the papers of the President of the United States in possession of my client."

https://twitter.com/MaddowBlog/statu...16861368782848
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So, if Cohen wasn't really Hannity's attorney, then there is no attorney/client privilege with regard to his relationship/discussions with Hannity.

I, too, think there is nothing under this rock, though.
Hannity made a confusing remark re handing Cohen "ten bucks" to establish privilege. Also, I read an explanation by an attorney that privilege can be established even if no money ever changes hands or if there is nothing in writing.

Privilege is "owned" by the client, not the attorney. Hannity seems to have gone out of his way to say that there is no attorney-client relationship with Cohen.....which attorneys have said was a big mistake on the part of Hannity.

Whatever the nature of the relationship, Hannity made every effort to have his name left out it. It was a judge's decision to reveal the name. Cohen is not an attorney as such. He listed three clients....three,...one of which is Hannity, who says he is not.

Another really peculiar oddity. Cohen needs $130K to pay off Daniels. And he can't get his hands on that paltry sum without taking out a home equity loan? He doesn't have access to $130K? Weird.
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Who cares who Rachel Maddow's lawyer is. We know why she defends people on her program. It's ideology and political affiliation. The White House during Obama's administration would invite friendly network reporters to wine and dine them as they laid out how they wanted their initiatives to be presented to the public. Did all of those journalists have an obligation to disclose their chummy relationship with the Obama administration before any coverage of the administration? A very large number of MSM journalists are Democratic doners. Do you know who they are? In comparison, do we need Hannity to disclose that he asked for real estate advice from his lawyer buddy before he raises concerns about the search and seizure? This is a nothing on parade by a very corrupt media.
Turns out it was a lawyer for CNN who pressed for release of a third person. Then CNN has never admitted their role - who is keeping a secret.

CNN’s Shimon Prokupecz confirmed the 'under seal' part, but omitted that the attorney was representing his employer. Prokupecz merely tweeted: "I was in court yesterday and if it wasn’t for the attorney representing the press, Sean Hannity’s name would have been filed under seal. Judge Kimba Wood was ready to accept the name under seal, when the attorney representing the press stood up and argued successfully against it."

Couldn't that be because "the press" -- the liberal press -- wants to tear down Fox News and run around claiming they shouldn't be defined as a "news organization"? The competitive and ideological juices are flowing all through this controversy.
According to the New York Times, Mr. Balin does indeed represent CNN and the Times:

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb...-michael-cohen

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There is nothing wrong with Hannity's affiliation with Cohen. But he was obliged to mention it. All his colleagues on Fox say that....but you don't think so.

If a guy that is an investment analyst writes about a stock he covers he always mentions that he owns the stock or not. Full disclosure requires that if you expect to have any credibility whatsoever. Owning the stock you're writing about is fine. Failing to disclose that fact is a major error. Hannity is taking the major hit he deserves because of his lack of full disclosure. All his colleagues are saying that....and you keep saying it's OK. Good grief!
UAC - did you read my post 145? Hannity said Cohen was not his lawyer. He had previously sought advise from him, mostly on real estate. Ask CNN why their lawyer wanted to attack Hannity.
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Turns out it was a lawyer for CNN who pressed for release of a third person. Then CNN has never admitted their role - who is keeping a secret.

CNN’s Shimon Prokupecz confirmed the 'under seal' part, but omitted that the attorney was representing his employer. Prokupecz merely tweeted: "I was in court yesterday and if it wasn’t for the attorney representing the press, Sean Hannity’s name would have been filed under seal. Judge Kimba Wood was ready to accept the name under seal, when the attorney representing the press stood up and argued successfully against it."

Couldn't that be because "the press" -- the liberal press -- wants to tear down Fox News and run around claiming they shouldn't be defined as a "news organization"? The competitive and ideological juices are flowing all through this controversy.
According to the New York Times, Mr. Balin does indeed represent CNN and the Times:

https://www.newsbusters.org/blogs/nb...-michael-cohen
Henry Kissinger used to say (during the Watergate era as I recall) that the way to stay out of trouble is: "To make sure that everything that will come out eventually comes out immediately".

I think that is wise advise. In this day and age everything will come out "eventually"....always does. Any/all damaging information about Trump and friends, immoral, financial, political, whatever will come out eventually. If it were all to come out at once and get it over with we'd all be a lot better off; including the President.....especially the President!

As is, it's drip, drip, drip...never ending, something new and different every week. It's exceptionally distracting and gets in the way of doing the People's business.
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Originally Posted by Mich Flyer View Post
Turns out it was a lawyer for CNN who pressed for release of a third person. Then CNN has never admitted their role - who is keeping a secret.

CNN’s Shimon Prokupecz confirmed the 'under seal' part, but omitted that the attorney was representing his employer. Prokupecz merely tweeted: "I was in court yesterday and if it wasn’t for the attorney representing the press, Sean Hannity’s name would have been filed under seal. Judge Kimba Wood was ready to accept the name under seal, when the attorney representing the press stood up and argued successfully against it."

Couldn't that be because "the press" -- the liberal press -- wants to tear down Fox News and run around claiming they shouldn't be defined as a "news organization"? The competitive and ideological juices are flowing all through this controversy.
This is total horse pucky, Mich.

How could Balin know he would be able to "tear down Fox News and run around claiming they shouldn't be defined as a "news organization"? if he didn't know the identity of the 3rd client?

Balin was there to represent the interests of several news organizations, including ABC, The New York Times, CNN, the Associated Press, and Newsday--not just CNN. His goal was to get the name of the 3rd client released.

Here is an interview with Balin from the Columbia Journalism Review on how he ended up at the hearing without all of the right wing hyperbole and bullsh*t:

https://www.cjr.org/q_and_a/hannity-cohen.php

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Henry Kissinger used to say (during the Watergate era as I recall) that the way to stay out of trouble is: "To make sure that everything that will come out eventually comes out immediately".

I think that is wise advise. In this day and age everything will come out "eventually"....always does. Any/all damaging information about Trump and friends, immoral, financial, political, whatever will come out eventually. If it were all to come out at once and get it over with we'd all be a lot better off; including the President.....especially the President!

As is, it's drip, drip, drip...never ending, something new and different every week. It's exceptionally distracting and gets in the way of doing the People's business.
Then I suggest you read post 282 of Does the FBI and Deep State thread.
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Trump's longtime legal counsel Jay Goldberg tells him that Michael Cohen would turn against Trump and cooperate with federal prosecutors if Cohen faced criminal charges:

On scale of 100 to 1, where 100 is protecting the president, Michael Cohen 'isn’t even a 1,' longtime Trump legal adviser says he told the president.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/cohen-w...ump-1524093151

We already know that Cohen is the subject of a criminal investigation, so it's just a matter of time before Cohen flips on Trump.

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Rosenstein: Trump is not a target of the Mueller or Cohen probes.


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Trump's longtime legal counsel Jay Goldberg tells him that Michael Cohen would turn against Trump and cooperate with federal prosecutors if Cohen faced criminal charges:

On scale of 100 to 1, where 100 is protecting the president, Michael Cohen 'isn’t even a 1,' longtime Trump legal adviser says he told the president.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/cohen-w...ump-1524093151

We already know that Cohen is the subject of a criminal investigation, so it's just a matter of time before Cohen flips on Trump.
There may be some smoke regarding Cohen, Trump and Trump's lawyer, Goldberg, seem significantly concerned about Cohen flipping.

Flipping regarding what? Who knows? This whole thing is hard to follow IMO.



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Rosenstein: Trump is not a target of the Mueller or Cohen probes.
Repeat after me: Trump is not a "target" he is a "subject."

"Subjects" can very easily become "targets" later on, as Trump most surely will.
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