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Has there ever been any talk of getting rid of the rid of the closed scrimmage and bringing back a 2nd exhibition game?
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Has there ever been any talk of getting rid of the rid of the closed scrimmage and bringing back a 2nd exhibition game?
I really hope not. One exhibition is more than enough.
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exhibition is treated like a regular season game ticket price wise?
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Has there ever been any talk of getting rid of the rid of the closed scrimmage and bringing back a 2nd exhibition game?
I would be very surprised if they did. I do not know about UD, but from the teams that I have worked with the last 10 or so years, they like seeing what the team looks like against another DI team. They learn a lot more in a scrimmage against another DI school than they do in an exhibition against a DII or DIII school.
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I would place a wager that Kansas and Michigan State are on the opposite sides of the bracket
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Dayton vs Georgia, first round

Winner vs Mich St/VT winner in second round

Other side of bracket:

Kansas vs Chaminade
BYU vs UCLA

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So UD is the 3 or 6 seed. Is Georgia any good?
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Old 07-11-2019, 10:56 AM
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They went 11-21 last year in their first year under Tom Crean. No idea how his recruiting has gone since taking over, but it's safe to assume it's been pretty good. They were ~130 in kenpom last year. Hopefully they're top 100 this year (quad two).

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Old 07-11-2019, 11:36 AM
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So
1 Kansas
8 Chaminade
4/5 BYU/UCLA

2 MSU
7 VT
3 Dayton
6 Georgia

That's a mild slap in the face for Michigan State. Many outlets have them preseason #1. Kansas was down a little bit last year (still top 20) but you have to assume they'll be back in the top ten.

College sports madness has VT #123. They're in for a difficult year as they lost Buzz Williams and their top five scorers from last year's top 15 team.

Here is a Georgia preview.

In this class, Crean got four of the top 100 players coming out of high school, including a five-star prospect in Anthony Edwards. Edwards is also the second-best player in this class, and it shows that Crean can recruit the Atlanta area. Needless to say, this is the type of class that changes things in a hurry.
I wouldn’t be shocked if they have some growing pains early in the year, but this team should be able to gel before the brunt of their SEC schedule. If so, they will be dangerous.
Hopefully. Catch them early while they're adjusting to D1 hoops, then watch them blossom into a solid team later in the year, maybe even quad one? Yes please.
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Old 07-11-2019, 11:45 AM
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I think we hit a home run in this tournament. Take care of business and it will pay huge dividends in March.
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Very nice. Not sure it could have worked out better. Maybe if we got VT? There's a reason we didn't I think. Georgia will be tougher than them possibly but that should equate to a better game for the SOS. Even if we lose game 1 we should be able to bounce back against VT and then have a shot at another really good opponent hopefully in game 3.

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Indiana State
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Georgia (N, Maui)
Mich. St./Va. Tech (N, Maui)
Chaminade/Kansas/BYU/UCLA (N, Maui)
Saint Mary's (N, Phoenix)
Colorado (N, Chicago)

I've left off Delaware State for now since there seems to be some serious doubts about whether that game will be scheduled. 5-6 games left to be announced.
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So
1 Kansas
8 Chaminade
4/5 BYU/UCLA

2 MSU
7 VT
3 Dayton
6 Georgia

That's a mild slap in the face for Michigan State. Many outlets have them preseason #1. Kansas was down a little bit last year (still top 20) but you have to assume they'll be back in the top ten.

College sports madness has VT #123. They're in for a difficult year as they lost Buzz Williams and their top five scorers from last year's top 15 team.
There are no seeds so it really doesn't mean anything.
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Here is a Georgia preview.
It is worth noting that this preview incorrectly mentioned that Nic Claxton (team leader in pts, rebs, stls, blks) will be joined by a great new recruiting class next year. Claxton is currently playing in the NBA Summer League. He will not be on the team.
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Anthony Edwards was 247's #2 overall recruit in the country and they have nice recruiting class but that's gonna be a young team.

Should be a winnable game
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Old 07-11-2019, 02:55 PM
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Third-place game 11:30 p.m. eastern Wednesday yikes!
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Old 07-11-2019, 03:24 PM
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I've left off Delaware State for now since there seems to be some serious doubts about whether that game will be scheduled. 5-6 games left to be announced.

We have about 2-3 games left to schedule. Everything else is locked in.
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We have about 2-3 games left to schedule. Everything else is locked in.
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There are no seeds so it really doesn't mean anything.
Correct. There is no seeding made public, however they aren't picking names out of a hat. Dayton 3 UGA 6 is very logical using deductive reasoning unless Chamanade is a sleeping powerhouse only the bracket makers know about
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Correct. There is no seeding made public, however they aren't picking names out of a hat. Dayton 3 UGA 6 is very logical using deductive reasoning unless Chamanade is a sleeping powerhouse only the bracket makers know about
Not picking out of a hat, but these tournaments are made for television. Outside of splitting MSU/KU, geography would appear to be a bigger factor with the four schools from the eastern time zone in the early games. The BYU/UCLA game at 11:30 PM EST makes a whole lot of sense compared to the alternatives. No exact science to it, but there are far more compelling ways to bracket teams without trying to rank teams 1 through 8.
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of course MSU fans are sure UGA will be their 2nd round game

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of course MSU fans are sure UGA will be their 2nd round game

https://247sports.com/college/michig...9am-133578783/
This guy has Georgia at #8 in the SEC.


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SEC Basketball rankings for 19-20:

1. Florida
2. Kentucky
3. Auburn
4. Tennessee
5. Miss State
6. Bama
7. LSU
8. Georgia
9. Ole Miss
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I remember watching the Georgia - Georgia Tech game last season and it was the ugliest game I saw all year. I'm not implying that Georgia will be bad this season, but it was so ugly it stood out.
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We have two players with more than a passing interest in a game against Georgia.

Both Moulaye Sissoko and Rodney Chatman attended High School in Georgia and got a sniff from Georgia during recruiting.
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SEC Basketball rankings for 19-20:

1. Florida
2. Kentucky
3. Auburn
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5. Miss State
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Not picking out of a hat, but these tournaments are made for television. Outside of splitting MSU/KU, geography would appear to be a bigger factor with the four schools from the eastern time zone in the early games. The BYU/UCLA game at 11:30 PM EST makes a whole lot of sense compared to the alternatives. No exact science to it, but there are far more compelling ways to bracket teams without trying to rank teams 1 through 8.
Gotcha.

That's why in 2013 we played Gozaga at 11:30 ET. That time slot was made for TV. Works for Zags, but not us. And the Dayton/Cincy market is consistently a top 10 TV market for college basketball so I don't buy it. That year you had multiple better options for Gonzaga: Cal which is based in PT zone, Minnesota, Baylor and Arkansas in CT, and even the host school Chamanaide.

No doubt in my mind TV match ups are very important. But equally important is a well seeded bracket.

Same thing last year when you had Illinois an Iowa State playing in the late game and San Diego State the early game. I think they balance seeding with television times.
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Gotcha.

That's why in 2013 we played Gozaga at 11:30 ET. That time slot was made for TV. Works for Zags, but not us. And the Dayton/Cincy market is consistently a top 10 TV market for college basketball so I don't buy it. That year you had multiple better options for Gonzaga: Cal which is based in PT zone, Minnesota, Baylor and Arkansas in CT, and even the host school Chamanaide.

No doubt in my mind TV match ups are very important. But equally important is a well seeded bracket.

Same thing last year when you had Illinois an Iowa State playing in the late game and San Diego State the early game. I think they balance seeding with television times.
If you want to talk about 2013 tourney, there were three teams in the preseason rankings with #8 Syracuse, #15 Gonzaga, and #25 Baylor. Baylor being paired with Chaminade in the first round should tell you that they don't seed these teams 1-8.
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I browsed that scheduling board...some recent posts:

South Florida, NM, Northern Iowa, Tulsa, Auburn, WKU, Charleston, MTSU, Illinois State, BYU, Boise, Iona, DePaul, Buffalo, SDSU, Northeastern, VT, UNLV, and NKU are all looking to start a home and home series and need an opponent.

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I browsed that scheduling board...some recent posts:

South Florida, NM, Northern Iowa, Tulsa, Auburn, WKU, Charleston, MTSU, Illinois State, BYU, Boise, Iona, DePaul, Buffalo, SDSU, Northeastern, VT, UNLV, and NKU are all looking to start a home and home series and need an opponent.

http://www.btischeduling.com/?e_type=1
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Originally Posted by ud2 View Post
I browsed that scheduling board...some recent posts:

South Florida, NM, Northern Iowa, Tulsa, Auburn, WKU, Charleston, MTSU, Illinois State, BYU, Boise, Iona, DePaul, Buffalo, SDSU, Northeastern, VT, UNLV, and NKU are all looking to start a home and home series and need an opponent.

http://www.btischeduling.com/?e_type=1
Just because they have dates available does not mean they line up with our dates available. There is a lot more that goes into scheduling than you are willing to admit and I think are purposely ignoring.
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To meet the scheduling upgrade challenge it seems we need to take some risks. I get it that we don't want to give up a home game, want to play on a Wednesday, don't like afternoons, don't like to play non-league after the A10 starts, would like to have 3 days rest between games, et al. Got to break the mold.

I'm really shocked that Florida would schedule a game against URI and not UD. Anything to offer Coach Grant?
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Originally Posted by m21eagle45 View Post
Just because they have dates available does not mean they line up with our dates available. There is a lot more that goes into scheduling than you are willing to admit and I think are purposely ignoring.
...and it isn't always as difficult as one/both parties make it out to be. If they want it to happen it can happen.
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...and it isn't always as difficult as one/both parties make it out to be. If they want it to happen it can happen.

Ah, yes, that is the rub - If They want it to happen. It takes two to make it happen.
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Originally Posted by San Diego Flyer View Post
To meet the scheduling upgrade challenge it seems we need to take some risks. I get it that we don't want to give up a home game, want to play on a Wednesday, don't like afternoons, don't like to play non-league after the A10 starts, would like to have 3 days rest between games, et al. Got to break the mold.

I'm really shocked that Florida would schedule a game against URI and not UD. Anything to offer Coach Grant?
I agree, we can not expect everything to come on a silver platter with a nice bow on it. You have to have some flexibility if you really want to make it happen.

Florida was on there looking for an opponent for a neutral game, although I would not be interested in taking on a top 10 team.

Vandy and ETSU also were looking to start home and homes.

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We already reached out to DePaul. After some back and forth they said no thanks and scheduled someone else.
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The only way I see us having another away game is if it happens late in December or that first Tuesday/Wednesday in November prior to Indiana state. An NKU series would be fun.
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An NKU series would be fun.
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You are not the first person who has mentioned NKU. What am I missing here?

Buy game yes, but a series oh hell no. Has UD and the A-10 really sunk to the level of scheduling Horizon league teams for a H/H series?
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You are not the first person who has mentioned NKU. What am I missing here?

Buy game yes, but a series oh hell no. Has UD and the A-10 really sunk to the level of scheduling Horizon league teams for a H/H series?

That Horizon League team has a brand new arena better and bigger than half the dumps we have to play in during January and February. They also win their conference or are the second best team in their conference year in and year out. On the road, that is usually a quad 2 victory.So, we are not playing a team that will be net 200 most years. Not to mention , we can get a nice number of our own fans in there.
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That Horizon League team has a brand new arena better and bigger than half the dumps we have to play in during January and February. They also win their conference or are the second best team in their conference year in and year out. On the road, that is usually a quad 2 victory.So, we are not playing a team that will be net 200 most years. Not to mention , we can get a nice number of our own fans in there.
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We already reached out to DePaul. After some back and forth they said no thanks and scheduled someone else.
I guess it wasn’t just that easy now was it?
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of course MSU fans are sure UGA will be their 2nd round game

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