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Major Announcement coming tomorrow

Hannity has proclaimed that a "huge" announcement is coming tomorrow, Friday the 15th, and he has exclusive guests that will be on his radio show and TV show to discuss it. Hannity has a tendency to exaggerate some things so I will be interested in hearing what this "huge" announcement is.
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FNC isn't part of the deal, neither are Fox Business Network, Fox Broadcasting Company, Fox Sports, Fox Television Stations Group, and sports cable networks FS1, FS2, Fox Deportes and Big Ten Network.
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Hannity has been sitting on explosive information of late. He knew about the DOJ texts for weeks if not months as that story developed behind the scenes.

He has been hinting at a few other things in his radio broadcasts. I think there are a few other major stories of the magnitude of the DOJ text revelations brewing.
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Hannity has been sitting on explosive information of late. He knew about the DOJ texts for weeks if not months as that story developed behind the scenes.

He has been hinting at a few other things in his radio broadcasts. I think there are a few other major stories of the magnitude of the DOJ text revelations brewing.
My guess - something to do with unmasking.
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GOP senator obtains draft FBI statement on Clinton email investigation

Sen. Ron Johnson of Wisconsin, the chairman of the Senate Homeland Security Committee, said Thursday he had obtained from the FBI a draft statement that then-Director James Comey produced in May 2016 in anticipation of closing out the Clinton email case. The document shows line-by-line edits.
Though the FBI had not yet interviewed Clinton about her use of a private email server, officials had already determined that criminal charges were probably not warranted.
In a letter to the FBI, Johnson said edits to Comey's original remarks "appear to change the tone and substance" in ways that lessen the seriousness of the case.*
Johnson highlights the changing of the wording from "grossly negligent" to "extremely careless." *CBS News has reported the word change was led by Peter Strzok, the senior FBI agent who sent texts disparaging of Donald Trump.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/gop-sen...investigation/
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Republicans turn focus to FBI's McCabe over texts on 'insurance' against Trump

“I want to believe the path you threw out for consideration in Andy’s office - that there’s no way he gets elected - but I’m afraid we can’t take that risk,” Strzok texted on Aug. 15, 2016. “It’s like an insurance policy in the unlikely event you die before you’re 40.”*

Some lawmakers surmise "Andy" is a reference to Andrew McCabe, and now want to know about his communications with Page and Strzok.

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Originally Posted by cj View Post
Hannity has proclaimed that a "huge" announcement is coming tomorrow, Friday the 15th, and he has exclusive guests that will be on his radio show and TV show to discuss it. Hannity has a tendency to exaggerate some things so I will be interested in hearing what this "huge" announcement is.
Mickey Mouse is going to replace Hannity? Maybe now I'll show some interest and tune in!
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Those of you who have a strong dislike of Hannity and refuse to watch him are going to end up behind the news. To each his own. There are some opinion journalists who I cannot stand to watch, so I get it. I'm just saying that the information that he is getting and presenting is not being shown almost anywhere else in the media until they are absolutely forced to present it. And the stuff is mind-blowing. Every day, the depth of corruption within the DOJ and former Clinton Campaign just gets deeper and deeper. And it supported by loads of evidence that is being obtained through freedom of information lawsuits.

Government reacts slowly to this stuff, but I am almost certain that Comey, a lot of people in the DOJ, Clinton and all of her top henchmen are going to be in serious, serious trouble. The scope of what is being revealed might be unprecedented in US history. What appears to have been a protective umbrella in the DOJ for Clinton seems to be evaporating because it is being exposed itself. The path of corruption is getting so obvious to the public that even politicians who were afraid of the appearance of political retribution cannot justify not re-investigating everything. It's quickly getting to critical mass and most of the public is not aware of it because it is so under-reported by the MSM right now.

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It looks to be bigger than Watergate.
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If you Google "Hannity big announcement" you get:

-- Bill O'Reilly joining him as a guest after he got canned

--Sean announcing his move to 9:00 pm

--A big announcement about Seth Rich--a story Fox News later retracted
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Originally Posted by Fudd View Post
Hannity has been sitting on explosive information of late. He knew about the DOJ texts for weeks if not months as that story developed behind the scenes.

He has been hinting at a few other things in his radio broadcasts. I think there are a few other major stories of the magnitude of the DOJ text revelations brewing.
And he will drop the bomb on a Friday when the newsters aren't around and the masses aren't tuned in to FNC/CNN/MSNBC all weekend....Monday will be the first set of rebuttal that anyone will pay attention to.
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"But her emails!!!"

Really?

The Cambridge Analytica emails are the ones Trump (and especially Jared Kushner) should be worried about...and Mueller has them:

https://twitter.com/aliasvaughn/stat...68243428069377

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Could it be we have a major case of voter fraud this week in the state of Alabama?
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Could it be we have a major case of voter fraud this week in the state of Alabama?
Short answer: No

http://www.factcheck.org/2017/12/fak...fraud-alabama/
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Short answer: No

http://www.factcheck.org/2017/12/fak...fraud-alabama/

Long answer: It's possible

It has been less that 72 hours since the polls closed.

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Long answer: It's possible

It has been less that 72 hours since the polls closed.
Revote coming?
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Revote coming?
Strictly a hunch by me, reason I posted my original response in the form of a question. Also, did not ad any linky goodness to it with broken or fictitious links or anything!
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Anyone paying attention to Hannity? Huge $$$$ being promised by Lisa Bloom, Gloria Alred's daughter, for people to come out against Trump just before the election. One was offered as much as $750K!!! The depths these people went to to get Hillary elected was criminal. Unbelievable. At what point would people start making crap up to get a piece of the pie?
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That's it?

It doesn't look to be bigger than Watergate, but that's just me.
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Just scanned CNN front page and nothing regarding the pay-to-play that Hannity reported on.
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Here’s the story according to The Hill:

http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...&ICID=ref_fark

It appears Lisa Bloom works both sides of the street: running Harvey Weinstein’s “Nuts and sluts” campaign while also helping victims. She and her mother Gloria Alred are mercenaries.
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Anyone paying attention to Hannity? Huge $$$$ being promised by Lisa Bloom, Gloria Alred's daughter, for people to come out against Trump just before the election. One was offered as much as $750K!!! The depths these people went to to get Hillary elected was criminal. Unbelievable. At what point would people start making crap up to get a piece of the pie?
Interesting that the money increased so dramatically just before the election, when it was most likely to affect votes without time to disprove.

Now, what if the money can be traced back to a campaign?

This is why I am a big skeptic of a bunch of allegations just before an election. If the victims seek justice, they will be motivated without an election timetable. It's like the whole purpose is political when it is timed this way.
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Payoffs for "victims"...those claims seem really legit now don't they...
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$750,000.00 offer for a woman just days before the election. Think about that. Someone was desperate to get that out there on the eve of the election. The woman decided she did not want to do it, and Lisa Bloom, instead of respecting the wishes of her "client", unleashed on the poor woman. Isn't the whole thing backwards?

What would you think if someone accused you of sexual harassment, and then you found out that she was being paid as a result? What if she was being paid by a rival of some sort to you, either in business or politics? Paying accusers taints everything, IMO. It introduces a conflict of interest every time.

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Payoffs for "victims"...those claims seem really legit now don't they...
Yes the claims are legit. That is one woman. There are 21 legimate claims listed here:

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b0162c043a7212
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Yes the claims are legit. That is one woman. There are 21 legimate claims listed here:

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b0162c043a7212
Have you interviewed the women? Or just regurgitating google inquires?
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No just confirming what has been reported in multiple credible media outlets.
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Yes the claims are legit. That is one woman. There are 21 legimate claims listed here:

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b0162c043a7212
Look through that list. It includes a woman who says that she did not like the way Trump looked at her. It includes Ivana Trump who denies it completely. It includes women who say they were changing clothes when he was backstage at pageants. Now we find out that other accusers were being paid. And they did not volunteer the fact that they were being paid. It was found out. And all of this because he was running for President. At least one on that list was pursued by media to come forward. What was the media motivation? Another accuser says that she voted for Trump.

Just saying, that is a cobbled-together list of tales and a good number of them have interest either in money or politics. The media mining and money being offered to these women never happens unless Trump is a serious contender for the Presidency, and his opposition is motivated to smear.

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Read Ivanka's account--from her deposition during her divorce-- of what happened and tell me she denies it:

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Read Ivanka's account--from her deposition during her divorce-- of what happened and tell me she denies it:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/ex-wif...ted-during-sex
Read all of her statements recently. What could possibly have been her motivation to put that out there during a divorce?
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It's the moral high ground liberal hacks who are the ones actually going down. NBC paid off producer who accused Chris Matthews of harassment, report says.

NBC paid thousands of dollars to an assistant producer on MSNBC's "Hardball with Chris Matthews."

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Ivanka issued the denial so she could cash the big alimony checks that Drumpf has written to her. I will believe her deposition any day vs. what was said to settle a divorce
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Ivanka issued the denial so she could cash the big alimony checks that Drumpf has written to her. I will believe her deposition any day vs. what was said to settle a divorce
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Salacious allegations were bargaining power during a divorce. That is what you are missing. Now that it is over, she has no reason to mislead or bargain. You are missing that too. I think you are missing that intentionally though. It does not fit your narrative and it adds another woman to the anti-Trump tally, even though she has no complaint against him.

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Do you even understand how a dep works? It is a sworn statement. Had the divorce gone to trial that would be her story; change it and she faces perjury. By settling Trump could force her to say it never happened--even tho it did.
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Do you even understand how a dep works? It is a sworn statement. Had the divorce gone to trial that would be her story; change it and she faces perjury. By settling Trump could force her to say it never happened--even tho it did.
Hypothetical....

It never went to trial...the deposition isn't a public record...so prosecution for perjury wouldn't occur in the future anyway...

You must have never been aware of lying in a deposition or stretching things during a divorce to get what you want?

She receives/received alimony. Is very rich. Has no incentive to go to bat for DT at all. She may have a condition of the agreement to keep her mouth shut about negative topics, but she doesn't have to go out and be positive. If that were the case, and she felt that strongly about the incidents, she would simply keep her mouth shut about anything DT related, especially the positives what she comes out with.
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Doug Jones (D), Senator elect of Alabama says this of the calls from other Democrats for Trump to resign over sexual allegations:

"Let's get on with the real issues... those allegations are not new, and he was elected with those allegations at front and center."
And it sounds like Democrats are now backing off the Al Franken resignation. Now that they need not claim the high ground against Moore, what is the point?

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So what exactly was Sean Helium's major, huge, very, very huge news announcement?

I tried following along to find it in this thread but couldn't...Is probably my fault since the clouds between my ears are particularly thick at this time of year.

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It was that Gloria Alred's daughter (can't think of her name) was found out to be offering large sums of money for women who might come forward with sexual misconduct allegations against Trump in the days leading up to the presidential election. She was soliciting money from "doners", who still remain anonymous to dangle in front of these women. Also, money from tabloid coverage would be split between attorney and client 33%/66%. This was discovered through e-mail evidence.

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Lying in a deposition...always a good idea! Try reading it first, Champ.
You missed the point Ace...since you like those condescending terms.

No one said it is a good idea...oh that's right...you probably believe a Clinton every time they are under oath too..
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Yes the claims are legit. That is one woman. There are 21 legimate claims listed here:

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b0162c043a7212
OK, here is some odd behavior by Jill Harth, number 20 on your Huffington Post list Swampy. Do you think she is believable after reading her pursuit of business with Trump recently? This list does not seem to be standing up to scrutiny very well.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017...ng-to-win.html
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Now Lumpy is promising an epic fail by NBC and CNN...but you have to wait a week to get it:

http://thehill.com/homenews/media/36...&ICID=ref_fark

That’s not how breaking news works Lumpy.
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Unfortunately I don't have that option...
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No one does, unfortunately and i will not renew my PP until that option is available.
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I use it as entertainment. Like going to the circus and seeing the clowns. We all need comic relief and swampy is ours.
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I dont like to be a "cry wolf" type of poster because Lord knows we already have one of tjose but Hannity is saying more is coming next week regarding FISA, the dossier.... Have to wait and see.
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I dont like to be a "cry wolf" type of poster because Lord knows we already have one of tjose but Hannity is saying more is coming next week regarding FISA, the dossier.... Have to wait and see.

That the dossier, paid for by Clinton, was used for the FISA warrant to spy against Trump. Would not be a surprise. Some outlets are already saying this.
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Did you bother to read the transcripts of Glenn Simpson’s testimony? Not a single word in that sentence is true. The truth is that the FBI confirmed what Steele reported and said they knew about it and were already investigating Trump.

Which is why the Repubs didn’t want to release the transcripts — it totally destroyed the fairy tale the GOP created about the dossier.

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As UD69 would say, another swing and miss. The fact is that it is known if the dossier was used to get the FISA to spy on Trump. However, the answer has not been leaked yet because the information is classified.

Sources on both Capitol Hill and in the executive branch have confirmed that representatives of four committees — the House Intelligence Committee, Senate Intelligence Committee, House Judiciary Committee, and Senate Judiciary Committee — have had the opportunity to examine FISA documents in a secure room at the Justice Department. They were not allowed to take the documents out of the room or to copy them, but they could make notes. They thus know the answer to the was-the-dossier-used-for-spying question.
So what is the answer? For the moment, it's classified. (Just for the record: I don't know it.) There might be articles and commentary written on the assumption that the FBI did or did not use the dossier material with the FISA court, but right now it appears the information has not leaked, and those articles and commentary are based on assumptions rather than hard information.
The challenge for House and Senate investigators is to get the information to the public. One option is to ask the executive branch to declassify it. The problem is that simply getting the information out of the FBI and Justice Department has been like pulling teeth. Another option is to have the president himself declassify it. The problem is that it is probably a good idea for President Trump to stay out of a congressional investigative process that focuses on his campaign. Yet another option is for Congress to exercise its little-known authority to declassify. The problem is that that it is a long and complicated process.
Maybe it would be better to just do an old-fashioned leak. The problem with that is that it would open the leaker to the legitimate charge of revealing classified information. Whether that happens could depend on how widely the information is disseminated inside Congress. The more members and staff who know, the more likely it will get out.

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No this was a hit and run, son. The House Intelligence Committee, Senate Intelligence Committee, House Judiciary Committee, and Senate Judiciary Committee are all controlled by Republicans and have been spoon feeding you a line of BS...and you believe it.

Don't you get it--The FBI was already investigating potential links between Donald Trump’s campaign and the Russian government before they heard anything about Christopher Steele’s famous dossier on the matter:

https://www.vox.com/2018/1/9/1687010...ony-transcript
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I think you are very naïve. You believe the Papadopoulos story? Let's be transparent as Weinstein said. Release the classified info the agencies have seen. I believe you will see a lot more come out about the FISA use to spy on Trump. You may be amazed to see how the Obama Administration abused the FISA process.
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Here are the Simpson transcripts--read them:

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No this was a hit and run, son. The House Intelligence Committee, Senate Intelligence Committee, House Judiciary Committee, and Senate Judiciary Committee are all controlled by Republicans and have been spoon feeding you a line of BS...and you believe it.

Don't you get it--The FBI was already investigating potential links between Donald Trump’s campaign and the Russian government before they heard anything about Christopher Steele’s famous dossier on the matter:

https://www.vox.com/2018/1/9/1687010...ony-transcript
This "papodopoulis started it all off" claim is fairly recent and did not appear until after the the whole dossier business unraveled like a Flyer halftime lead. It was likely leaked out in a to keep the stupid Russia crap alive.
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This "papodopoulis started it all off" claim is fairly recent and did not appear until after the the whole dossier business unraveled like a Flyer halftime lead. It was likely leaked out in a to keep the stupid Russia crap alive.
Name one thing that Robert Mueller's team has leaked.

You can't.
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We know that Hillary and the DNC paid for the dossier through a string of hired firms. We only know that because of banking records that were exposed. Hillary and the DNC covered that up until they knew the information would be exposed. We know from Comey himself that the information in the dossier was not substantiated. That basically puts the dossier into the category of election propaganda generated by paid foreign agents.

We know that there was a group of at least 3 top level FBI agents who were conspiring against a Trump victory in the election. They referenced an "insurance policy" in case he won. Was that insurance policy the dossier or a dossier generated investigation? At least some of these agents were instrumental in the start of the Trump investigation under Mueller.

Someone, identity not publicly known yet, used the dossier to help get authorization to surveil the Trump campaign during the 2016 election. That FISA application has now been seen by some of our Congressmen. That information is not yet public.

It should send chills down the spines of every American if the paid election propaganda (unsubstantiated) of the candidate connected to the party in power and controlling the government at the time of an election can be used to get the FBI to surveil the opposition campaign based on that politically motivated and purchased propaganda. I really want to know who within our government would have been privy to the surveillance information on the Trump campaign. Could that information have found its way back to the Hillary campaign? Was it used to get an edge in debates, to get ahead of the other candidates strategy, to leak to the press, etc?

To add insult to injury, the Obama administration changed the rules for distributing intelligence information within the government in the last months of his Presidency. Why would he do that? He seeded the government (deep state) with information to undermine Trump. Did that information come from this unethical surveillance generated by the dossier and paid for by the DNC and Hillary?

Watergate references are overused to the point of abuse, but if this storyline ends up being true, this is bigger than Watergate, IMO. This would be Watergate with a politicized FBI recruited to do the dirtywork.

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Name one thing that Robert Mueller's team has leaked.

You can't.
Name one time I mentioned Mueller's team in my post.

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Did you bother to read the transcripts of Glenn Simpson’s testimony? Not a single word in that sentence is true. The truth is that the FBI confirmed what Steele reported and said they knew about it and were already investigating Trump.
Wait a minute. The FBI said that they could not corroborate almost anything in the Steele dossier. Correct?
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Name one time I mentioned Mueller's team in my post. You can't
If we both agree that Mueller's team didn't leak it, then we both also agree it was someone on the Trump side who did.

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Confirmation: DOJ and FBI Used “Steele Dossier” for Application To FISA Court for Search Authority on Trump Campaign

Confirmation: DOJ and FBI Used “Steele Dossier” for Application To FISA Court for Search Authority on Trump Campaign
in order to monitor the Trump campaign and conduct surveillance on the officials therein.

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Why aren’t there other people that could leak it? Anyone else in the FBI, doesn’t have to be Meullers team. It could be an Aussie, lots of people. Any anti-Trumper that knew or believed it to be true. The leaker could be in the WH sure. Let me ask you this who leaked transcripts of Trump talking to foreign heads of state? There are deep state Trump haters everywhere would be my guess.
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Sara Carter is a real investigative journalist. She has been at the forefront of breaking a lot of the stories that are painting the larger mosaic of massive corruption. Pulitzer Prize candidate in my mind.
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Sara Carter is a real investigative journalist. She has been at the forefront of breaking a lot of the stories that are painting the larger mosaic of massive corruption. Pulitzer Prize candidate in my mind.
You forgot that one of the criteria for the Pulitzer Prize is that the reporting cannot contradict the liberal agenda.
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Confirmation: DOJ and FBI Used “Steele Dossier” for Application To FISA Court for Search Authority on Trump Campaign
in order to monitor the Trump campaign and conduct surveillance on the officials therein.

https://www.infowars.com/confirmatio...rump-campaign/
Oh Jeebus, InfoWars--why don't you quote Steve Bannon while you're at it?

Oh, that's right.

Read the danged transcripts.
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Oh Jeebus, InfoWars--why don't you quote Steve Bannon while you're at it?

Oh, that's right.

Read the danged transcripts.

Shame on Clinton and the Democrats.

OK. Then let's quote Sara Carter, Sara Carter Award winning National Security/War Correspondent.: The unverified dossier alleging connections between President Trump’s campaign and the Russians was used as evidence by the FBI to gain approval from a secret court to monitor members of Trump’s team, this reporter has learned.

A large portion of the evidence presented in the salacious 35-page dossier put together by former British spy Christopher Steele, has either been proven wrong or remains unsubstantiated. However, the FBI gained approval nevertheless to surveil members of Trump’s campaign and “it’s outrageous and clearly should be thoroughly investigated,” said a senior law enforcement source, with knowledge of the process.
Multiple sources told this reporter that the dossier was used along with other evidence to obtain the warrant from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, known as FISC. The sources also stressed that there will be more information in the coming week regarding systemic “FISA abuse.”
“(The dossier) certainly played a role in obtaining the warrant,” added another senior U.S. official, with knowledge of the dossier. “

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Shame on Clinton and the Democrats.

OK. Then let's quote Sara Carter, Sara Carter Award winning National Security/War Correspondent.: The unverified dossier alleging connections between President Trump’s campaign and the Russians was used as evidence by the FBI to gain approval from a secret court to monitor members of Trump’s team, this reporter has learned.

A large portion of the evidence presented in the salacious 35-page dossier put together by former British spy Christopher Steele, has either been proven wrong or remains unsubstantiated. However, the FBI gained approval nevertheless to surveil members of Trump’s campaign and “it’s outrageous and clearly should be thoroughly investigated,” said a senior law enforcement source, with knowledge of the process.
Multiple sources told this reporter that the dossier was used along with other evidence to obtain the warrant from the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Court, known as FISC. The sources also stressed that there will be more information in the coming week regarding systemic “FISA abuse.”
“(The dossier) certainly played a role in obtaining the warrant,” added another senior U.S. official, with knowledge of the dossier. “

https://saraacarter.com/2018/01/10/w...-fisa-warrant/
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Other than this, no:

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Let me give you some help Swampy.

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Within the last 72 hours, I clicked on one of the links you posted and got the same message (which happens on a regular basis), but I said to myself it is a new year, do not be a smart ass to the poor guy. Guess I should have pointed out your flaws, yet again........
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To answer the question posed in the article, had the author bothered to read the Simpson transcripts she would know that no, the Fusion GPS dossier was not used to obtain the FISA warrants.
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I read part of it

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To answer the question posed in the article, had the author bothered to read the Simpson transcripts she would know that no, the Fusion GPS dossier was not used to obtain the FISA warrants.
Sorry Swampy, I have to chime in. I try to stay out of some of these political ****ig matches, but I was board so I downloaded the Simpson transcript.

Scanning the document, the word "warrant" is not used. Subpoena is used several times, but not related to the FISA court. FISA, F.I.S.A., or any combination of the term is not used in the transcript. The word "federal" is only used twice. Once referring to "federal rules of civil procedure" and once referring to "federal bureau of investigation." The word "court" appears several dozen times, but never in reference to FISA or anything related.

The Vox.com article for which you provided the link makes some assumptions, but there is nothing in the actual transcript. It's a left leaning editorial at best.

To say that the dossier was not used to obtain the FISA warrant just because it was never mentioned in one person's congressional testimony is highly disingenuous. To trust in an editorial published on a left leaning website without actually verifying the sources is Faux News.

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To answer the question posed in the article, had the author bothered to read the Simpson transcripts she would know that no, the Fusion GPS dossier was not used to obtain the FISA warrants.
The Simpson transcripts prove nothing. Swamp, the truth is coming out. You cannot stop it.

What we do know is that in the middle of a contentious campaign for the presidency, Democrats paid Fusion GPS to dig up dirt on Trump. The resulting, largely fictitious “dossier” was then used not only as fodder for the Obama administration’s investigation into its political opponents but also to spread unsubstantiated rumors about Trump to the press.

In fact, Simpson’s description of Steele’s reasons for approaching the FBI aren’t even true. In the dossier, Steele alleges to be offering extensive evidence of a “conspiracy between Trump’s campaign team and the Kremlin.” In his deposition in a libel case late last year, however, the former spy says it was merely “possible” that collusion had taken place and the dossier reflects “limited intelligence.”

Well, now that Michael Cohen, Trump’s personal attorney, is filing a pair of lawsuits — one in federal court against Fusion GPS and the other in New York against BuzzFeed — the truth may take on some renewed importance. Add to that the fact that Chuck Grassley and Lindsey Graham asked the Department of Justice to open a criminal investigation into Steele’s inconsistencies, and surely we can look forward to more clarifications and walkbacks in the future.
This is likely what prompted Feinstein to release the transcripts — which, incidentally, excluded not only a number of important contextual exhibits from Simpson’s testimony but also redacted all sorts of relevant information about the players in the case.

It doesn’t matter. At some point, we’re going to learn the whole story. And if it turns out that the political party in power used a dossier filled with raw, unsubstantiated information to spy on its opponents, it’ll be a massive scandal.

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The truth behind the whole dossier situation gets uglier and uglier as we get closer to the core. It started with Trump saying that Trump tower had been wiretapped, and the left media laughing at the allegation.

This is going to end up being revealed as one of the dirtiest political scandals in our countries history. Just like most of the Hillary scandals of the last year, we will look back at the denials and cover-ups with scorn.
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As Forbes magazine points out, libel is the purview of the state and not federal court. Cohen’a suit has no standing and will be thrown out:

https://www.forbes.com/sites/legalen...me-lawyer/amp/
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