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Old 11-27-2015, 12:35 AM
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Monmouth (AdvoCare Invitational) Game Thread

Great win tonight.... Absolutely not looking past the Hawks, keep playing like we do!

Friday Night at 9:30 on ESPN2

G 12 Justin Robinson 5’8” 175 JR Lake Katrine, NY
G 11 Je’lon Hornbeak 6’3” 190 JR Arlington, TX
G 10 Micah Seaborn 6’5” 190 RS FR Arlington, TX
G 5 Deon Jones 6’6” 220 SR Wilmington, DE
C 33 Zac Tillman 6’10” 285 JR Yeadon, PA

Justin Robinson is big time... averages about 23 a night.

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Vegas line not up yet. Flyers should open at 9.
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We should own the boards. This will come down to our ability close out on shooters and limit TO's as they thrive on steals and fastbreaks off them. They also shoot well from 3 and know how to get fouled and make Ft's. Need to limit touch fouls.
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Vegas line not up yet. Flyers should open at 9.
Flyers opened at PK, as did many teams, moved to -8
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One thing fans need to be prepared for is the Monmouth bench. They have a bunch of bad actors playing it up for the cameras:

http://es.pn/1MGRG00

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Monouth is a very skilled team

These guys are good. They shoot very well. Average 9 steals a game while turning it over less than 10 a game. Star guard shoots 93% from ft line. Averages 23/game. Team averages 81 points/game against a very good early season schedule, but so does their opponents. A bit vulnerable on the boards, but will still get their share. They go 10 deep with reserves. No major foul trouble players.

At first glance this looks like a shoot out at a frantic pace.

Beware-- they are 3-1 and have NOT played a home game yet.

Like all holiday games, regardless of what the spread is, any win would be an achievement.
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Flyers opened at PK, as did many teams, moved to -8
Opening at "pick" merely meets a deadline. When the betting windows open for business, the line is where it should be and remain give or take a point or two. Otherwise, bettors would wind along from Caesars to McCarran AP ready to bet the opening line.
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We should own the boards. This will come down to our ability close out on shooters and limit TO's as they thrive on steals and fastbreaks off them. They also shoot well from 3 and know how to get fouled and make Ft's. Need to limit touch fouls.
THIS. We WILL outboard them.

What happens then, anyone's guess . I'm fairly confident.
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Game notes from Montmouth:

http://www.monmouthhawks.com/ViewArt...B_OEM_ID=14300


Interesting side note:

Monmouth junior guard Josh James (Greenburgh, NY/Archbishop Stepinac) and Dayton junior guard Scoochie Smith (Bronx, NY/Putnam Sciences Academy) were AAU teammates with the New York Gauchos on both 15U and 16U teams. Also on that team was Manhattan guard Tyler Wilson.
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I have Direct TV -- and just looked up the line item for tonight's game. Here's what it says:

"Charles Cooke and Dayton take on Monmouth in this semifinal matchup."

Great plug for Cooke and kinda cool.
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Old 11-27-2015, 10:00 PM
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FWIW, the Ohio St. game on ESPN2 is running WAY late... looks like ESPNU is out as an option as they have a football game on, but ESPNews has got nothing better going on, and should broadcast the first 15-20 minutes of Dayton/Monmouth, or however long it takes before ESPN2 can take over.

In other words, anyone looking to run a DVR or time-shift are kinda screwed, but at least this shouldn't be a deal where we all have to switch over to second-screen/internet-stream technology.
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FWIW, the Ohio St. game on ESPN2 is running WAY late... looks like ESPNU is out as an option as they have a football game on, but ESPNews has got nothing better going on, and should broadcast the first 15-20 minutes of Dayton/Monmouth, or however long it takes before ESPN2 can take over.

In other words, anyone looking to run a DVR or time-shift are kinda screwed, but at least this shouldn't be a deal where we all have to switch over to second-screen/internet-stream technology.
Is ESPN3 a possibility? I'm in a hotel without ESPNNews.
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Is ESPN3 a possibility? I'm in a hotel without ESPNNews.
Hotels can be a challenge when trying to follow the Flyers. WHIO is always an option. Or, ask at the hotel where the local sports bars are.
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Old 11-27-2015, 10:25 PM
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ESPN3 is actually fine, if you have free wi-fi or a good data plan. ESPN3 is just the internet-streaming/second-screen thing I was talking about.... I'm a greedy, entitled SOB, so I just want to see things on TV without having to hook up an extra HDMI thingie. But yeah, ESPN3 should be good, too.
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ESPN is saying our game starts at 9:40 now.
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ESPN2 is now scrolling a message that the game will tip at 9:40. ESPN3 will have it as well.
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And, if they keep the same announcing team as they did for the earlier game, we will have Dickie V announcing, I am unsure if he has ever worked a UD game.
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This looks like a UD home game. All red. Up 4.
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Does Cooke have 2 PFs?
One. The Monmouth bench is a comedy show.
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Nice 3 for Mikesell from well beyond the arch. UD 23 - 13.
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Do the Monmouth bench warmers really need their own video box during live play?
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Too many starters sitting on the bench with fouls.
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Do the Monmouth bench warmers really need their own video box during live play?
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Yeah, I don't see Archie allowing the walk ons to act up like that on the bench.

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Why did Sam Miller play so little when Steve was on the bench?
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Need to pull away in the second half.

Darrell Davis needs to wake up, he hasn't been a factor in Orlando yet.

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no presence in the paint for UD on the offensive end...
Monmouth has some very big guys rotating at the 5, that average-out to be Steve's size. Neither Sammy nor X is big enough to do much inside against them. Pick-n-rolls might be a decent option to get some points in the paint, but I think straight post-ups will only work for Steve.
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Brutal officiating

If this was last season, we'd have 2 players left for the second half. Entirely too many whistles on both teams. Steve got a new one in that half. The receiving a separation elbow to the chest foul. Never seen anything like this. Horrible flow to the game.
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no presence in the paint for UD on the offensive end...
Agree. ..

Look 2 Steve in the 2nd
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gotta stop penetration. If we are going to shoot 3's they need to come from anyone not named Kyle Davis. He's not shown improvement a bit over last year. Now 2 of 10 on the year.
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If this was last season, we'd have 2 players left for the second half. Entirely too many whistles on both teams. Steve got a new one in that half. The receiving a separation elbow to the chest foul. Never seen anything like this. Horrible flow to the game.
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Why did Sam Miller play so little when Steve was on the bench?
We need to be more disciplined in the second half. I would like to see some set plays for Pollard and Big Mac
Have you watched Sam play? He is on a seriously steep learning curve. Not picking on the Freshman because Darrell Davis does not instill confidence right now either. He looks lost out there for a guy who has logged a lot of minutes in his career.
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There we go...at our best when we push the ball up the court and attack the basket. Great defense so far in the second half to create those transition buckets...
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Focus on the Hawks bench is really encapsulating the downfall of ESPN sports coverage. More about the spectacle than the contest.
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Letting them hang around with poor perimeter d on 3s. We look stagnant on O. Need to insert Pollard and finish this.
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need too stop their 3's and not foul. It's their only way to claw back into this game. Put in Pollard and Steve until they foul out.
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He's killing up. Might be worth a double team.
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Yesterday we gave up a 14 pt lead, but came back. Today our 16 point lead is down to 8. Got to stop them and have a little run to end this.
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Another big lead squandered. Sooner or later this is going to backfire. Playing green men too long.
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Against these zones is where we really miss Pierre. Nobody has that feel in the high post like he does.
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Our ball after the TO, but I'd like to see if there should've been a foul on Tillman on that floor dive.
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Oh, I see. The ONLY fouls they are calling this game are touch fouls. Everything else is A-OK.
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My wife poured me a glass of wine at halftime and told me to take a sip everytime a foul was called. Doubtful I make it to the end of the game at this point.

Come on NCAA, your screwing up a great sport. No one goes to the game to watch 3 zebras call fouls all day.
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