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Old 03-16-2019, 05:22 PM
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McKillop: Why continue to give him a free pass?

Comments, Scotty? Does Bob McKillop suck? Does Davidson’s beatdown at the hands of St. Louis make them a horrible team with a horrible coach?

Coaches, like players, have a bad day every now and then. Grow up between now and next year and we can have a REAL discussion as to whether Grant is a failure. If we can give you a thousand moronic posts, you can be man enough (maybe) to give Grant three years at Dayton, and finally with a full complement of players.

Believe me, if Grant doesn’t get next year’s team to the dance you’ll have a bunch of people on your side. But if he does, try not to choke on your words.

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Old 03-16-2019, 05:23 PM
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Who’s mckillop and why do I care?
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Old 03-16-2019, 05:27 PM
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If you donít know you donít care. Apparently the point of the thread is beyond you.
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Whoís mckillop and why do I care?
I believe Fly indicated who he was in his post.
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A bit premature Fly, he has only had 30 years to get his own guys and system in place at Davidson. Give him another year or two before we start bashing him
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He won the A10 tournament last year and has been to the elite 8.

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The “bashing,” of course, is sarcasm. McKillop is arguably the best coach in the league, today’s 23-point demolishing not withstanding.

It’s funny how fans react to coaching. I have my own issues with some of AG’s decisions, but I can see that he’s building something here and I’m willing to be patient.

I was as big a fan of Archie’s results as anyone. But he dipped from 20 wins to 17 his second season and barely qualified for the A-10 tourney. AG goes from 14 wins to 21, finishes third, yet some think he’s an abysmal coach and should be run out of town. I get it — everybody wants immediate results. We’re all — me, too — fickle. But he deserves three years to have HIS team in place. We’re there next year, and with an NBA prospect leading the way.

We saw what Archie did in year three. Now, it’s AG’s turn.

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McKillop just didnít have his guys ready to play today. Clearly werenít prepared for the zone(s) that SLU threw at them. Very deer in the headlights look from McKillop today.

It definitely wasnít the playersí fault out there for Davidson today. Coach let them down. Laid the Golden Egg today and got a 20+ point beat down when the tournament was there for the taking.
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McKillop needs to hang it up. Game has passed him by. Zero adjustments first or second half. Guys out of position everywhere, poor defense. No high hands on shooters. Team was entirely unprepared. Teams take on the mentality of their coach. Completely physically outmatched. He is weak and his players are weak. They thought the season was over and were happy with a #2 seed. Fading at the end as usual. No idea what they see in this guy. To be there 30 years must be Stockholm syndrome. Should have hired an assistant. Whats this guy ever won? He won in some podunk league nobody has ever heard of. Big whoop. I guess nobody at Davidson cares. Guy is living off the fumes of Steph Curry like Dr Giannini lived off the fumes of Ramon Galloway. Only reason they probably hired the guy in the first place is because he had a one year apprenticeship there before coaching HS basketball.
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Of course McKillop nor Grant deserve to be judged based on one game or one season, and this thread is tongue in cheek. UD is the second best matchup for SLU, Davidson with their four guards and no tough big guys is the best for SLU. Today was no surprise.
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I didnít edit anything about McKillop being Davidsonís coach. I merely added the last graf.

It evidently just went over your head, or you were trying be clever ... and failed.
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Of course McKillop nor Grant deserve to be judged based on one game or one season, and this thread is tongue in cheek. UD is the second best matchup for SLU, Davidson with their four guards and no tough big guys is the best for SLU. Today was no surprise.
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I didnít edit anything about McKillop being Davidsonís coach. I merely added the last graf.

It evidently just went over your head, or you were trying be clever ... and failed.
Cool story. Still donít see your point. Weíre not davidson
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Yeah, hard to see the point when youíre wearing blinders.
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Are you just going to keep making useless post or make a point? Are you for or against Ag?

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Then stay out of it if you ó unlike the others here ó donít get it.
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You keep posting and replying to me but not adding anything to the thread. What is the point? We’re comparing a guy been at his job for 30 years with a guy with 2 years. A guy who spent most his career in a lesser conference.

But I get it...you want to coddle everyone and give out participation trophy’s to everyone. This team could have achieved so much more than what they did but you’re ok with NIT banners in the rafters. An A10 that was only going to get one team in the tournament unless VCU loses and we’re saying wait til next year. We had a golden opportunity. We lost it. I want AG to do well but so far we’re still not there.

But go ahead, tell me to wait til next year. Tell me that I don’t get it. Go back to your rose colored glasses and enjoy 30 years of being average at best. I expect better results and hold people accountable. It’s ok that you don’t...we need people you to ensure burgers are flipped and bathrooms are cleaned.
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But go ahead, tell me to wait til next year. Tell me that I don’t get it. Go back to your rose colored glasses and enjoy 30 years of being average at best. I expect better results and hold people accountable. It’s ok that you don’t...we need people you to ensure burgers are flipped and bathrooms are cleaned.
Wow, for somebody who claimed not to get the point, you’ve now decided to extrapolate a point that wasn’t made. Let me go r-e-a-l s-l-o-w for you.

As I’ve said many times in many threads, I have my own issues with AG’s coaching decisions here and there. But this sarcastic thread was aimed at UDScott, whose similarly titled thread mocked AG’s and his team’s performance against St. Louis while using it one more time to pronounce the coach a “failure” and belittle those who think otherwise. It was a mocking comparison to McKillop — probably the best coach in the league — whose team lost by 23 to the same Bilikens team. No one at Davidson or anywhere is going to call HIM a failure, save for the UDScotts of the world.

Now any intelligent fan can reason that the jury is still out on AG, another point many of us have made. That doesn’t require rose-colored glasses; it requires common sense. He’s in his second year here, and the results — while not what we want them to be — are better than many of us expected pre-season. No one’s banging drums for the NIT; the NCAA tournament and top-level A-10 performance is the goal.

Any program worth its salt expects its coach to meet that goal but understands it’s not an overnight fix. It wasn’t for Archie. It hasn’t been for Grant. For that matter, it wasn’t for McKillop, Coach K or hundreds of other successful leaders in the profession.

So it’s clear to me now that you really didn’t get the point ... again, unlike most in this thread. Maybe you get it now.

As for your childish little burger insult, rest assured if I flipped them, you’d be the one cleaning them up when they hit the floor.

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Oh, and since you’re so interested in my edits, one was to change a comma to a period. And then a typo.

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What exactly entitles you to hold this team accountable? What are you going to do if they don't meet your expectations? Fire the coach? The AD? Why don't you pull a couple of scholarships? You are a fan, at least you claim to be. Are you a big donor? Do you pay for season tickets or a seat license? This team owes you, or me, nothing. If you actually spend money on the product you are paying for entertainment. If you don't feel you are getting your money's worth, follow another team.
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Whats this guy ever won? He won in some podunk league nobody has ever heard of. Big whoop.

1 year at Davidson as an independent, no post season

2 years at Davidson in the Big South, no post season

22 years at Davidson in the SoCon...7 ncaat 5 nit

5 years in the a10...2 ncaat, 1 nit, and likely 1 more nit this year

Just based upon his a10 performance, he has earned the benefit of the doubt.

And yes, I realize that you were being sarcastic.

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What exactly entitles you to hold this team accountable? What are you going to do if they don't meet your expectations? Fire the coach? The AD? Why don't you pull a couple of scholarships? You are a fan, at least you claim to be. Are you a big donor? Do you pay for season tickets or a seat license? This team owes you, or me, nothing. If you actually spend money on the product you are paying for entertainment. If you don't feel you are getting your money's worth, follow another team.
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Well put. I will never understand how people think they are owed anything from a sports team. If itís your alma mater I guess itís perfectly fine to expect them to run a clean program. Any more and you are greatly overestimating your own importance.

I feel sorry for people who are/will be just as steamed about this loss, this season, the latest coaching hire a month from now, all summer etc. Especially with the progress that was made and the promise that is on the horizon.

Unless you are making a living in this field, sports is nothing more than entertainment. But you go right on feeling good about yourself for not taking no for an answer, raising your voice,flexing your muscles while cracking skulls. Let me know the next time that your Ďdemand for accountabilityí changes one thing about UD BB.
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Well put. I will never understand how people think they are owed anything from a sports team. If itís your alma mater I guess itís perfectly fine to expect them to run a clean program. Any more and you are greatly overestimating your own importance.

I feel sorry for people who are/will be just as steamed about this loss, this season, the latest coaching hire a month from now, all summer etc. Especially with the progress that was made and the promise that is on the horizon.

Unless you are making a living in this field, sports is nothing more than entertainment. But you go right on feeling good about yourself for not taking no for an answer, raising your voice,flexing your muscles while cracking skulls. Let me know the next time that your Ďdemand for accountabilityí changes one thing about UD BB.
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Why was Jim O'Brien fired? Bottom line, it was because the fans, yes a large group of individuals that included people like you and TX Flyer were not happy with the results. If the majority of fans felt like all they could ask for was to have a group of athletes play basketball for their entertainment, his 4 or 5 wins a season would've been good enough and he might still be our coach to this day.

So to act like any fan has no right to their own expectations is BS. We all have expectations and then when the numbers shift far enough that enough fans aren't tuning in or showing up, then the fans are holding the program accountable.

Sure, no individual fan has the right to fire a coach or whatever, but they certainly have a right to express their feelings of not having their expectations met.

Fans are the life blood of any spectator sport and everyone of them matter albeit individually in a very small way.
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Why was Jim O'Brien fired? Bottom line, it was because the fans, yes a large group of individuals that included people like you and TX Flyer were not happy with the results. If the majority of fans felt like all they could ask for was to have a group of athletes play basketball for their entertainment, his 4 or 5 wins a season would've been good enough and he might still be our coach to this day.

So to act like any fan has no right to their own expectations is BS. We all have expectations and then when the numbers shift far enough that enough fans aren't tuning in or showing up, then the fans are holding the program accountable.

Sure, no individual fan has the right to fire a coach or whatever, but they certainly have a right to express their feelings of not having their expectations met.

Fans are the life blood of any spectator sport and everyone of them matter albeit individually in a very small way.
Sorry I am not a key donor so none of that applies to me. I reckon you and TXFlyer arenít either. And talk about apples and oranges between JOB and AG. Is your premise that JOB might still be here if wasnít for fans like you calling for his head when you had had enough?

There was tons to enjoy about this team and coach this year and even more to be excited about moving forward. Whether a person can see that depends entireley on their perspective and expectations.
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Wow, for somebody who claimed not to get the point, youíve now decided to extrapolate a point that wasnít made. Let me go r-e-a-l s-l-o-w for you.

As Iíve said many times in many threads, I have my own issues with AGís coaching decisions here and there. But this sarcastic thread was aimed at UDScott, whose similarly titled thread mocked AGís and his teamís performance against St. Louis while using it one more time to pronounce the coach a ďfailureĒ and belittle those who think otherwise. It was a mocking comparison to McKillop ó probably the best coach in the league ó whose team lost by 23 to the same Bilikens team. No one at Davidson or anywhere is going to call HIM a failure, save for the UDScotts of the world.

Now any intelligent fan can reason that the jury is still out on AG, another point many of us have made. That doesnít require rose-colored glasses; it requires common sense. Heís in his second year here, and the results ó while not what we want them to be ó are better than many of us expected pre-season. No oneís banging drums for the NIT; the NCAA tournament and top-level A-10 performance is the goal.

Any program worth its salt expects its coach to meet that goal but understands itís not an overnight fix. It wasnít for Archie. It hasnít been for Grant. For that matter, it wasnít for McKillop, Coach K or hundreds of other successful leaders in the profession.

So itís clear to me now that you really didnít get the point ... again, unlike most in this thread. Maybe you get it now.

As for your childish little burger insult, rest assured if I flipped them, youíd be the one cleaning them up when they hit the floor.
If you wanted to make a thread towards another poster why not just say that? Iím sorry you try to belittle other posters but make it vague because you canít man up and just tell them what you think. I still donít see how this thread adds any value to discussions here.

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What exactly entitles you to hold this team accountable? What are you going to do if they don't meet your expectations? Fire the coach? The AD? Why don't you pull a couple of scholarships? You are a fan, at least you claim to be. Are you a big donor? Do you pay for season tickets or a seat license? This team owes you, or me, nothing. If you actually spend money on the product you are paying for entertainment. If you don't feel you are getting your money's worth, follow another team.
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If you wanted to make a thread towards another poster why not just say that? Iím sorry you try to belittle other posters but make it vague because you canít man up and just tell them what you think. I still donít see how this thread adds any value to discussions.
I did. Evidently you werenít quick enough to catch his name as the SECOND word in the FIRST post or even understand the title of the thread. And belittling him is hardly a challenge or even necessary. The substance of this thread was crystal clear to everybody but you, it would seem. You see no value here yet you dove in and continued to post, insult and misconstrue. How odd.

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You did NOT get a red pip from me. Hopefully Chris will verify it, and then weíll see if youíre up to a mea culpa. Iíve never given one (donít even know how) and wouldnít. I respect different points of view, even yours so long as theyíre expressed in reasonably civil tones.
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McKillop just didnít have his guys ready to play today. Clearly werenít prepared for the zone(s) that SLU threw at them. Very deer in the headlights look from McKillop today.

It definitely wasnít the playersí fault out there for Davidson today. Coach let them down. Laid the Golden Egg today and got a 20+ point beat down when the tournament was there for the taking.
Is SLU going to win today? What is your prediction?
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Is SLU going to win today? What is your prediction?
I'll certainly be cheering for them, although I'm a big fan of Mark Schmidt at SBU.

At this point, I don't think it really matters that it will be SLU's 4th game in 4 days vs SBU's 3rd in 3. I think SBU plays a deeper rotation.

If I had to lay a bet, I would go with SLU. They were picked to win this conference for a reason and just 7/8 weeks ago, appeared to be the class of the league and the front-runner from the A10 re: at-large chances. They might be a little more veteran, senior-laden as well. Ironically, SBU is led by senior Courtney Stockard who is from all places, St. Louis.

If Bess and Isabel shoot anywhere near as well as they've been, then I think SLU wins going away.

The one thing SBU may have going for them re: their depth, is they may have the bodies to commit the fouls and put SLU on the line. I would foul French anytime he's within 7 feet and in a shooting motion. And every time they're in the 1 and 1 and he catches it. SLU is horrible at the line and it's one thing that might catch up with them.

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I'll certainly be cheering for them, although I'm a big fan of Mark Schmidt at SBU.

At this point, I don't think it really matters that it will be SLU's 4th game in 4 days vs SBU's 3rd in 3. I think SBU plays a deeper rotation.

If I had to lay a bet, I would go with SLU. They were picked to win this conference for a reason and just 7/8 weeks ago, appeared to be the class of the league and the front-runner from the A10 re: at-large chances. They might be a little more veteran, senior-laden as well. Ironically, SBU is led by senior Courtney Stockard who is from all places, St. Louis.

If Bess and Isabel shoot anywhere near as well as they've been, then I think SLU wins going away.

The one thing SBU may have going for them re: their depth, is they may have the bodies to commit the fouls and put SLU on the line. I would foul French anytime he's within 7 feet and in a shooting motion. And every time they're in the 1 and 1 and he catches it. SLU is horrible at the line and it's one thing that might catch up with them.

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This game opened as a pick'em...line is currently SBU -1.5...I picked SBU in the A10T poll on this site, and I am going to stick with SBU. Schmidt is a good coach.


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At this point, I don't think it really matters that it will be SLU's 4th game in 4 days vs SBU's 3rd in 3. I think SBU plays a deeper rotation.
If you consider SBU's starters playing all but 23 minutes out of a possible 400 over the last two games a deeper rotation then yeah I guess so.
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If you consider SBU's starters playing all but 23 minutes out of a possible 400 over the last two games a deeper rotation then yeah I guess so.
It wasn't so much the starter minutes, but rather the number of bodies that they would usually throw in the game (8-10). I think they have the capable/available bodies to put in the game to play the hack-a-shaq defense, that I had suggested in the post that you took only one sentence out of (context).
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My point is they don't really play anybody else. Yesterday three guys saw 3, 2 and 1 minute respectively outside of the starters. I wouldn't say that's a deep rotation.
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Are you just going to keep making useless post or make a point? Are you for or against Ag?

Why don't you start a poll? I'm sure the real world is dying to know!

This has to be the dumbest thread weíve had here in some time

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My point is they don't really play anybody else. Yesterday three guys saw 3, 2 and 1 minute respectively outside of the starters. I wouldn't say that's a deep rotation.

Even more amazing was 2 or 3 of those starters are freshmen on st. Bonaventure.
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It wasn't so much the starter minutes, but rather the number of bodies that they would usually throw in the game (8-10). I think they have the capable/available bodies to put in the game to play the hack-a-shaq defense, that I had suggested in the post that you took only one sentence out of (context).
It had everything to do with the starters minutes for St. Boni. If you look at the starters minutes you had 2 guys with 40, 1 with 39, 1 with 38 and a 37. I believe three of their starters are also freshman. and all five of those guys could have potentially been at 40 minutes had Rhode island hung around longer.

If we are going to talk about all the minutes three or four of the Dayton players play then you cannot discount at all what St Bonnie has done and it is unbelievable. Can't just have it one way.
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Why don't you start a poll? I'm sure the real world is dying to know
Because I donít care about the rest of you. I only like the fly and care about his opinion.

At the end of the day weíre all flyer fans. Some of us appear to be more frustrated than others eith the way the season ended. If fly is ever around Iíd still buy him a beer even though I donít agree with his post
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It had everything to do with the starters minutes for St. Boni. If you look at the starters minutes you had 2 guys with 40, 1 with 39, 1 with 38 and a 37. I believe three of their starters are also freshman. and all five of those guys could have potentially been at 40 minutes had Rhode island hung around longer.

If we are going to talk about all the minutes three or four of the Dayton players play then you cannot discount at all what St Bonnie has done and it is unbelievable. Can't just have it one way.
You guys are missing the point. I wasnít suggesting their roster depth had anything to do with any of their success. I was simply stating that they have the available and capable bodies to play hack-a-shaq against SLU, which is a viable consideration. Thatís the only reason their depth was brought up.
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The guy has made only 2 NCAA tournaments in 12 years, would you be happy with that? I guess at a school like SBU that would be fine, but at Dayton? No way!

So far Grant is 0/2 in making the NCAA tournament here (which, along with advancing in it, is ultimately the only thing that matters in college basketball), so next year is make or break, and since heís only made one NCAA tournament the last eight years of his coaching career, he doesnt exactly instill confidence he can get the job done. With Daytons resources and fan support, anything less than 3 ncaa tournament appearances every 4/5 years is an absolute abject failure. It really is that black and white.

Isnt team depth one of the most common excuses made for this season on this board? SLU won four games in four days (dominating the second halfs) playing inly seven/eight guys. Stop making excuses for bad coaching/recruiting! If AG fails to make the ncaa tournament again next season, get rid of him and find someone more competent as he will have completely killed all of the momentum from the Archie era and set the program back years.
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The guy has made only 2 NCAA tournaments in 12 years, would you be happy with that? I guess at a school like SBU that would be fine, but at Dayton? No way!

So far Grant is 0/2 in making the NCAA tournament here (which, along with advancing in it, is ultimately the only thing that matters in college basketball), so next year is make or break, and since heís only made one NCAA tournament the last eight years of his coaching career, he doesnt exactly instill confidence he can get the job done. With Daytons resources and fan support, anything less than 3 ncaa tournament appearances every 4/5 years is an absolute abject failure. It really is that black and white.

Isnt team depth one of the most common excuses made for this season on this board? SLU won four games in four days (dominating the second halfs) playing inly seven/eight guys. Stop making excuses for bad coaching/recruiting! If AG fails to make the ncaa tournament again next season, get rid of him and find someone more competent as he will have completely killed all of the momentum from the Archie era and set the program back years.
Yeah because 60-80% has been the norm for this program over the past 50 years. Barring a huge scandal or an unforeseen significant drop in results AG will be here for at least 5-6 years which is as it should be.
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You guys are missing the point. I wasnít suggesting their roster depth had anything to do with any of their success. I was simply stating that they have the available and capable bodies to play hack-a-shaq against SLU, which is a viable consideration. Thatís the only reason their depth was brought up.
Lol. No, we're not missing the point. UD can do the same thing then if you're looking at just having "bodies" but they would be out of the game and down by 30.It' s about having capable bodies in the rotation and crunch time of the game which St. Bonaventure does not. Why do you think all their starters almost played 40 minutes?
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Lol. No, we're not missing the point. UD can do the same thing then if you're looking at just having "bodies" but they would be out of the game and down by 30.It' s about having capable bodies in the rotation and crunch time of the game which St. Bonaventure does not. Why do you think all their starters almost played 40 minutes?
Therein lies the difference. Dayton didnít actually have the capable/available bodies. At most we could have gone have 8 deep with Frankie. Dayton couldnít play the hack-a-shaq because of it. Itís an option the Bonnies had that UD didnít.
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